#linuxcnc Logs

Jun 05 2024

01:15 AM Deejay: moin
04:34 AM Tom_L: morning
04:36 AM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer> Morning
04:54 AM JT-Cave1: morning
05:59 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
06:58 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
07:26 AM Tom_L: sunny & 87F today
07:26 AM Tom_L: first time in a while the forecast said sunny all day
08:32 AM JT-Cave: we get that tomorrow and fri
08:54 AM roycroft: it's overcast now, but the sun should come out in a bit, and the forecast is for warm, sunny days for the next week or so
08:55 AM roycroft: i need to finish moving out of the old house this weekend, so good weather will be important
08:55 AM roycroft: the following weekend i'm moving most of my shop
09:12 AM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer> took another ride, angle is better, until i stand up for the downhill section: https://youtu.be/G47bRleGAno
09:21 AM JT-Cave: damn it exploded my monitor again couldn't watch
09:24 AM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer> and yet, i have had one person say the intro was great...
09:33 AM Tom_L: but i would expect to see something just as spectacular after it...
09:34 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, any ideas why the parport won't connect to the mesa card?
09:34 AM Tom_L: i did an adduser to the lp group and chmod it as well
09:34 AM Tom_L: never messed with pp much
09:35 AM Tom_L: says root owns it
09:39 AM JT-Shop: I recall something about group permissions... or something about group
09:40 AM Tom_L: i need to set the mb up again and then i'll mess with it some more
09:40 AM Tom_L: i'm sure it's a permission thing of some sort
09:40 AM JT-Shop: cat /proc/ioports
09:41 AM Tom_L: i'm just not that familiar with all the commands involved
09:41 AM JT-Shop: nor am i
09:41 AM JT-Shop: which mesa card uses the parallel port?
09:41 AM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer> Tom_L: i have to build myself back up before spectacular can happen...
09:42 AM JT-Shop: https://www.cnczone.com/forums/linuxcnc-formerly-emc2-/377778-cnc.html
09:43 AM Tom_L: thought i'd stick a printer on it to make sure the ribbon is good
09:44 AM JT-Shop: linux and printers have fun... well it's not as bad as it used to be lol
09:44 AM Tom_L: you know, the other day i set one up on it for the first time and it was a breeze
09:44 AM Tom_L: and it found my laserjet without doing anything
09:44 AM Tom_L: wifi
09:45 AM Tom_L: i did have to hunt for the appropriate driver for it but after that it just worked
09:45 AM Tom_L: for the non laserjet
09:46 AM Tom_L: for the test i was just planning to echo something to lp lpt parport0 or whatever
09:53 AM roycroft: i got my printer back online yesterday
09:54 AM roycroft: about five minutes before a meeting where i needed to scan and post something
09:56 AM bjorkint0sh: it's definitely better now. I remember spending a solid week trying to get my first printer to work with RH 5.0 (eww) and later FreeBSD.
09:56 AM bjorkint0sh: that was fun.
09:56 AM bjorkint0sh: but. it's still not a solved problem. last time I had printer issues was ... that's right, less than 24 hours ago.
09:56 AM bjorkint0sh: I don't get it.
09:58 AM Tom_L: i've heard a few of those horror storries
09:59 AM bjorkint0sh: funnily though, one of Unix's early uses was for printing.
09:59 AM bjorkint0sh: here we are, some 50+ years later and it's still a struggle.
10:00 AM bjorkint0sh: and given that the PDPs were attached to teletypes, it's had printing in its DNA since day 0.
10:02 AM Tom_L: wires must work, the printer burped when i booted the pc
10:03 AM bjorkint0sh: I have a brother printer that's connected via wifi. it likes windows, it likes macs, but woe betides any linux interaction. not sure if it's ubuntu fucking around in CUPS or its just a CUPS issue.
10:05 AM Tom_L: device communication error
10:05 AM Tom_L: i didn't set anything up on it
10:05 AM Tom_L: but it shows a deskjet as a print device
10:05 AM roycroft: how long has it been since the last c/a/t machine did any work?
10:06 AM roycroft: it was discontinued in the mid-'80s, iirc
10:07 AM roycroft: of course we had ditroff by then
10:07 AM * roycroft is all about postscript and ethernet cables when it comes to communicating with printers
10:08 AM Tom_L: showed up in cups without doing anything
10:09 AM roycroft: so i don't get good reception for some of the radio stations i listen to up here
10:09 AM roycroft: poor reception generally - there's only one tv station that i can pick up at all with rabbit ears, and that signal is to weak to watch
10:10 AM roycroft: i have a roof-mounted antenna but i'm not able to cable it up now
10:10 AM roycroft: anyway, i installed a "free" streaming app on my mac so i can listen to my radio stations
10:11 AM roycroft: it's one of those apps that is "free", but has ads that can go away if one makes an in-app purchase
10:11 AM roycroft: i can live with that, but it has another "feature" that makes it intolerable
10:11 AM roycroft: every 20 minutes, no matter what i'm listening to, it switches to a jebus station, and i have to kill the app and restart it to listen to the station i want
10:12 AM roycroft: i haven't decided whether that's clever impressive, clever evil, or just weird
10:12 AM JT-Shop: what is a jebus station
10:12 AM roycroft: but it's definitely time to find another app
10:13 AM roycroft: it's a station that does preachy stuff and religious music stuff
10:13 AM bjorkint0sh: roycroft: your radio stations don't have web-casts?
10:13 AM JT-Shop: ah
10:13 AM roycroft: "christian radio"
10:13 AM roycroft: yeah, but it's a lot easier to use a dedicated streaming app than to use apple music for that
10:13 AM bjorkint0sh: right.
10:13 AM bjorkint0sh: alternative, is SDR.
10:13 AM roycroft: or a web browser
10:14 AM bjorkint0sh: right.
10:14 AM roycroft: i think that when i get the roof mount antenna hooked up and a signal amplifier and distributor, i'll be able to get everything ota
10:14 AM roycroft: but that's going to be a couple or three months, as i really can't do that until my wrist has healed a lot more
10:14 AM bjorkint0sh: are you a ham op?
10:14 AM roycroft: no
10:15 AM bjorkint0sh: i'm going to get my license one of these fine days.
10:15 AM roycroft: i've always meant to get a ham license, but never did
10:15 AM bjorkint0sh: it's been 20 years since I started lusting after it
10:15 AM roycroft: i used to have a commercial license, as i volunteered at a campus radio station and needed a license to operate the transmitter
10:15 AM roycroft: but i never got my amateur license
10:15 AM bjorkint0sh: oh fun.
10:16 AM bjorkint0sh: I think if I found an evening class and just dragged my ass to it, I'd get it within 2 months.
10:16 AM roycroft: and the funny thing is, the thing that used to stop people from getting that license was the morse code requirement
10:16 AM bjorkint0sh: on my own, I have too many damned hobbies and not enough time
10:16 AM bjorkint0sh: they scrapped the morse code requirement.
10:16 AM roycroft: i learned morse code and with a little refresher could passs that easily, but now it's not reuquired any more
10:17 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> my dad and his brothers were all amateurs..
10:18 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> and my dad's dad
10:18 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I never really got interested in it.
10:18 AM roycroft: sadly, amateur radio seems to be going by the wayside
10:18 AM bjorkint0sh: I believe by the time you get your 3rd license, you're pretty much a bonafide electronics engineer.
10:19 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> (dad was also a broadcast engineer...)
10:19 AM bjorkint0sh: well
10:19 AM roycroft: i say sadly because we've become more and more dependent on our communications infrastructure, and that infrastructure has become more and more fragile
10:19 AM bjorkint0sh: hmm. yes.
10:19 AM roycroft: in times of disaster, amateur radio is still a vital tool
10:19 AM bjorkint0sh: it absolutely is.
10:20 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I gave all of dads equipment to my uncle.
10:20 AM bjorkint0sh: it's in no way obsolete. it's just *dying*.
10:20 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> (he really just listened to my uncle talk to his cronies..)
10:21 AM Tom_L: mmm getting a communication error on the printer but it does see it
10:26 AM roycroft: i found another app that looks ok - the free version has no ads, but only allows me to store 5 stations, which might be enough
10:26 AM roycroft: as long as it doesn't switch stations on me i'll be fine with it, i think
10:26 AM roycroft: and it's only $10 for the full version, so no big deal if i want more stations
10:27 AM roycroft: there are only 5 stations that listen to regularly, and two of them have repeaters up here, so i can listen to them on a real radio
10:29 AM Tom_L: at least it wasn't heavy metal
10:29 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> dang. it's already 78 outside..... forecast is showing 99 F for today.
10:30 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> If you want to see the SF Bay Area, check this : http://www.rntl.net/san-francisco-windsurfing-cams/
10:38 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
10:38 AM Tom_dev: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0000, size=4)
10:38 AM Tom_dev: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0100, size=4)
10:38 AM Tom_dev: No 7I90 board found
10:47 AM * JT-Shop wonders if pcw--home is around?
10:51 AM pcw--home: Tom_dev possibilities: FPGA not configured, wrong firmware, parallel port not in EPP mode, wrong EPP mode (1.7 instead of 1.9)
10:52 AM pcw--home: bad cable, bad 7I90, bad parallel port...
10:59 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Not living clean lifestyle..
11:03 AM bjorkint0sh: what's next, impure thoughts? :-D
11:04 AM Tom_L: i'm with skunkworks...
11:04 AM Tom_L: i can plug it in the mill and see what it does out there but i thought i put the same firmware on the spare
11:05 AM Tom_L: how do i set the epp mode?
11:05 AM Tom_L: nothing in the bios for that
11:05 AM Tom_L: just enable/disable
11:06 AM Tom_L: never used the parport on this mb so that's a possibility
11:07 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I know epp mode can be a pain. (used to play around with the pluto)
11:13 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
11:14 AM Tom_dev: so i did this with the board on the mill: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
11:14 AM Tom_dev: No 7I90 board found
11:14 AM Tom_dev: but it runs linuxcnc just fine
11:14 AM Tom_dev: and the config is set to 0x378
11:15 AM Tom_dev: before testing the board in question...
11:16 AM Tom_dev: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
11:16 AM Tom_dev: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0000, size=4)
11:16 AM Tom_dev: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0100, size=4)
11:16 AM Tom_dev: No 7I90 board found
11:16 AM Tom_dev: with the test 7i90
11:17 AM Tom_dev: wonder why mesaflash doesn't see either one
11:18 AM JT-Shop: do you get the same result with the other 7i90?
11:18 AM Tom_dev: Mesaflash version 3.5.8
11:18 AM Tom_dev: ^^ those are both boards
11:18 AM Tom_dev: the first one is on the mill
11:18 AM Tom_dev: the 2nd one is the test 7i90
11:19 AM Tom_dev: and i get the same result on the test mb inside as the 2nd test posted here
11:20 AM Tom_dev: i could plug in the wheezy ssd and it would probably show it fine
11:20 AM Tom_dev: on the mill...
11:20 AM * JT-Shop thinks he hears a nap calling his name and it keeps getting louder
11:21 AM Tom_dev: ahmen
11:21 AM Tom_dev: i'm gonna let it sit a while
11:51 AM roycroft: well the new streaming radio app has been running for over an hour now, and no ads or abrupt station changes
11:53 AM Tom_L: they're too busy infiltrating your pc
12:04 PM CaptHindsight: how does Mesaflash look for 7i90's?
12:05 PM CaptHindsight: for a while LCNC could not find EPP ports unless the kernel found them in a particular way and then put them in a certain location in the file system
12:07 PM CaptHindsight: so for oddball EPP controllers that the kernel didn't have info for, stepconf would not find them
12:07 PM CaptHindsight: I'm paraphrasing from my bad memory
12:21 PM Tom_L: i get the same timeout message using mesaflash on wheezy
12:22 PM Tom_L: and i know the board works on that
12:22 PM Tom_shop: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
12:22 PM Tom_shop: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0000, size=4)
12:22 PM Tom_shop: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0100, size=4)
12:22 PM Tom_shop: No 7I90 board found
12:26 PM roycroft: i should have phonez!
12:26 PM roycroft: it was a dns issue
12:26 PM roycroft: at least for my switch to connect
12:26 PM * roycroft plugs one in and sees what happens
12:29 PM pcw--home: Tom_shop: can you try an older version of mesaflash?
12:29 PM CaptHindsight: maybe https://paste.debian.net/1319297/
12:33 PM pcw--home: If LinuxCNC works (and this is a motherboard parallel port) this is not likely a EPP setup issue
12:34 PM Tom_L: pcw--home, i was gonna try and find one next
12:34 PM Tom_L: i have a pile of em somewhere
12:35 PM Tom_L: i have back to 3.4.3
12:39 PM Tom_L: 3.2
12:40 PM roycroft: yeah, the phone is registered and is able to make calls
12:40 PM * roycroft is so glad that giant problem is solved
12:42 PM Tom_L: i'll go try it on the mill since i can run lcnc there to test
12:46 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
12:46 PM Tom_shop: i have 3.5.8 installed out here atm
12:48 PM Tom_shop: testing 3.4.3
12:49 PM Tom_shop: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
12:49 PM Tom_shop: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0000, size=4)
12:49 PM Tom_shop: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0100, size=4)
12:49 PM Tom_shop: No 7I90 board found
12:49 PM Tom_shop: Mesaflash version 3.4.3
12:49 PM Tom_shop: debian 12 preempt-rt
12:50 PM Tom_shop: now the mill won't start either
12:52 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
12:52 PM Tom_shop: no, sry... that is debian 12 running RTAI
12:53 PM Tom_shop: the new one...
12:55 PM Tom_shop: http://paste.debian.net/1319306/
12:55 PM Tom_shop: tail end of dmesg
12:55 PM Tom_shop: it was working prior to these tests
12:56 PM Tom_shop: but mesaflash wouldn't show it
12:58 PM Unterhaus__ is now known as unterhausen
12:58 PM unterhausen: after 30 years, I finally drilled into my workbench
12:58 PM Tom_L: ^^ that was the board in the mill
12:59 PM CaptHindsight: unterhausen: I know the feeling, I broke my fist cellphone since the late 80's recently
01:00 PM Rab_: unterhausen, I used cheap pine 2x12s, reasoning that I could just replace them when they got torn up. 15 years later, they're fine! (Definitely some drill holes.)
01:06 PM unterhausen: I think the maple I used cost about the same as pine
01:06 PM unterhausen: It has chisel marks, but no drill holes until now
01:07 PM roycroft: i drilled into my workbench on the first or second day after i finished building it
01:07 PM roycroft: that was both a horror and a relief
01:07 PM roycroft: mostly relief, because i no longer had to worry about it
01:07 PM CaptHindsight: yeah get it over with
01:07 PM XXCoder1: galaxy quest paint lol
01:07 PM XXCoder1: first time is always a worry but afterwards eh
01:08 PM * roycroft gets out another phone and hopes to get it online quickly
01:08 PM CaptHindsight: it looks like you use it
01:10 PM roycroft: my bench used to be beautiful
01:10 PM roycroft: now it's beautiful, but with character
01:11 PM CaptHindsight: I felt worse after hitting a Kurt vise or the bed of a large VMC
01:11 PM roycroft: i would not be ok with hitting a kurt vise
01:12 PM roycroft: a workbench is supposed to develop character
01:12 PM roycroft: a kurt vise is supposed to stay shiny and new
01:12 PM CaptHindsight: dumb things happen when you ask yourself "Am I too tired yet, can I get one more part done tonight?"
01:13 PM CaptHindsight: https://imgur.com/h6rg9t8 or how about dropping an nice end mill onto concrete before you ever use it?
01:20 PM CaptHindsight: I have never run Fusion360. Is it similar to Inventor that I have run years ago?
01:21 PM Rab_: CaptHindsight, in the strictest sense, surely there are more similarities than not.
01:24 PM Rab_: I found the original rotary table that matched my 1960s mill on eBay, in near-mint condition. I had it mounted next to the vise, and my attention wandered during a cut...the cast iron cut like butter
01:24 PM CaptHindsight: the makerspaces around here use it for CAD/CAM but I might just bring a laptop an use MasterCAM or Powermill
01:24 PM Rab_: http://reboots.g-cipher.net/mill/image/rotab1.jpg
01:25 PM CaptHindsight: life can be tough as a perfectionist
01:25 PM Rab_: For a few minutes I stood and wondered how to pass on all my equipment to someone who deserved it.
01:25 PM XXCoder1: reminds me of ToT "should stop when ti starts making wood chips, and expecially after it starts making cast iron chips"
01:25 PM Rab_: haha
01:26 PM CaptHindsight: as long as it doesn't start to look like Swiss cheese I don't care anymore
01:26 PM XXCoder1: just turn random holes into threaded bolt on stuff ;)
01:26 PM CaptHindsight: "it was for a fixture"
03:00 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> 96 and climbing..
03:01 PM JT-Shop: the doe is spending a lot of time just laying down in her chosen spot under the carport... I think the event is close
03:02 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.reddit.com/r/Machinists/comments/t61yh2/how_people_think_cnc_machines_work/ still relevant
03:03 PM XXCoder1: hah yeah I love it each time I watch i
03:04 PM CaptHindsight: JT-Shop: maybe the doe likes Corvettes and Ridgelines
03:04 PM JT-Shop: it's not phased by any of my vehicles
03:04 PM XXCoder1: saw that video. jeep gonna do their own thing I guess
03:04 PM JT-Shop: but it "likes" whole corn
03:05 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> just likes your place and feels secure
03:14 PM Tom_L: something must be changing these port settings because the one on the mill using bookworm doesn't work now either
03:17 PM JT-Shop: rutrow
03:17 PM Tom_L: i haven't tried the wheezy install there yet
03:18 PM Tom_L: no idea what it could be
03:23 PM JT-Shop: like changing from epp to something else?
03:25 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:25 PM Tom_shop: well duh
03:25 PM Tom_shop: i forgot to plug the pp cable back in the control :)
03:26 PM JT-Shop: hmm, not enough voltage to jump the gap?
03:26 PM Tom_shop: wifi? bluetooth????
03:26 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> oops
03:27 PM Tom_shop: just ran a test on the mill... i'll try mesaflash again now
03:27 PM Tom_shop: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
03:27 PM Tom_shop: [sudo] password for tom:
03:27 PM Tom_shop: No 7I90 board found
03:28 PM Tom_shop: Mesaflash version 3.4.3
03:28 PM Tom_shop: pcw wanted me to try an old version
03:28 PM JT-Shop: so neither board is found by mesaflash?
03:28 PM Tom_shop: no
03:29 PM Tom_shop: i just tried the one attached to the mill
03:29 PM Tom_shop: and it doesn't seem to matter what version
03:29 PM Tom_shop: this is bookworm (12) RTAI
03:29 PM JT-Shop: I've never had a parallel port mesa card
03:30 PM Tom_shop: Linux bookworm 5.4.258-rtai-amd64 #2 SMP Thu Oct 19 11:54:56 BST 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux
03:30 PM Tom_shop: that's all i've had connected to hardware
03:30 PM Tom_shop: except the old one...7i84?
03:30 PM Tom_shop: i forget
03:30 PM Tom_shop: 2 port
03:30 PM Tom_shop: 50 pin
03:31 PM Tom_shop: had to load the firmware on boot
03:31 PM Tom_shop: i know it's worked in the past because i've loaded firmware multiple times
03:35 PM Tom_shop: i'll go back a couple more versions and try
03:35 PM XXCoder1: interesting. easy to do graphye air bearing
03:35 PM XXCoder1: https://youtu.be/K_N_h_mKf-4
03:35 PM Tom_shop: 3.2 is as far back as i have here
03:38 PM JT-Shop: that goes back before I grabbed mesaflash from micges
03:39 PM Tom_shop: can't get 3.2 to build
03:40 PM Tom_shop: trying 3.3
03:41 PM XXCoder1: gonna love seeing ball spin away as he talks about it
03:41 PM Tom_shop: i386 architecture of input file `libanyio.a(spi_boards.o)' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output
03:41 PM Tom_shop: must be 32bit only
03:43 PM Tom_shop: git has it back to 3.1.0
03:44 PM Tom_shop: i'd have to boot wheezy to try the older ones
03:45 PM Tom_shop: guess i'll try that
03:56 PM CaptHindsight: XXCoder1: I wish there were more videos of this type vs fanboy CNC and similar
03:59 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:00 PM Tom_shop: couldn't get that to build
04:00 PM XXCoder1: not too sure what you mean, I do watch few cnc channels but not too many
04:00 PM Tom_shop: i'll try pulling it from git
04:01 PM JT-Cave: I did a search to see if micges still had his repo but didn't find it
04:01 PM Tom_shop: i may have it bookmarked somewhere
04:02 PM JT-Cave: I have an old mesaflash and it looks like 3.0 - 3.2 maybe
04:03 PM Tom_shop: ok i got 3.4.0 to build from git
04:04 PM Tom_shop: that works on bookworm
04:05 PM Tom_shop: i'll try a newer one now
04:10 PM Tom_shop: 3.4.3 doesn't work
04:11 PM JT-Shop: "that works on bookworm" as in it sees the 7i90?
04:11 PM Tom_shop: yes
04:11 PM Tom_shop: readhmid etc
04:11 PM JT-Shop: cool
04:11 PM Tom_shop: Mesaflash version 3.4.3
04:11 PM Tom_shop: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
04:11 PM Tom_shop: No 7I90 board found
04:11 PM Tom_shop: something broke between those 2 versions
04:11 PM JT-Shop: can you build 3.4.1 and 3.4.2?
04:12 PM Tom_shop: pcw--home, ^^
04:12 PM Tom_shop: i'll try
04:12 PM Tom_shop: gotta git those
04:13 PM pere: Just a small reminder, <URL: https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_2024_LinuxCNC_Norwegian_developer_gathering.html > in a month.
04:14 PM JT-Shop: Norway Mi?
04:18 PM Tom_shop: Mesaflash version 3.4.2
04:18 PM Tom_shop: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
04:18 PM Tom_shop: Configuration Name: HOSTMOT2
04:18 PM Tom_shop: General configuration information:
04:18 PM Tom_shop: BoardName : MESA7I90
04:18 PM Tom_shop: FPGA Size: 9 KGates
04:18 PM Tom_shop: had trouble building 3.4.1
04:19 PM JT-Shop: no need now, you just proved it works with 3.4.2 and is broken in 3.4.3
04:19 PM Tom_shop: i'll try 3.4.3 once more
04:19 PM CaptHindsight: somebody mentioned using a slightly smaller ball in every other spot when reballing a ballscrew to keep them from jamming but this also reduces the load capacity
04:20 PM CaptHindsight: I guess if half the load capacity still exceeds your required load rating that this idea is fine
04:20 PM Tom_shop: i'll git again to be sure
04:22 PM Tom_shop: Mesaflash version 3.4.3
04:22 PM Tom_shop: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
04:22 PM Tom_shop: No 7I90 board found
04:22 PM Tom_shop: pulled from git
04:22 PM Tom_shop: so yeah that's where it broke
04:22 PM Tom_shop: pcw--home,
04:23 PM Tom_shop: now i'll test the spare 7i90 board with it
04:23 PM JT-Shop: with 3.4.3?
04:23 PM Tom_shop: no 3.4.2
04:24 PM Tom_shop: Mesaflash version 3.4.2
04:24 PM Tom_shop: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
04:24 PM Tom_shop: Configuration Name: HOSTMOT2
04:24 PM Tom_shop: General configuration information:
04:24 PM Tom_shop: BoardName : MESA7I90
04:24 PM Tom_shop: FPGA Size: 9 KGates
04:25 PM Tom_shop: using the mill board
04:25 PM Tom_shop: now i'll swap the board out
04:26 PM Tom_shop: just remind me to plug the cable back into the control :)
04:27 PM CaptHindsight: does it search for parallel ports by looking at what is in /proc/sys/dev/parport ?
04:27 PM Tom_shop: the 7i90 doesn't need field power does it?
04:28 PM Tom_shop: i don't think so
04:28 PM JT-Shop: beats me :)
04:28 PM Tom_shop: sudo mesaflash --device 7i90 --epp --addr 0x378 --readhmid
04:28 PM Tom_shop: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0000, size=4)
04:28 PM Tom_shop: EPP timeout on data cycle of read(addr=0x0100, size=4)
04:28 PM Tom_shop: No 7I90 board found
04:28 PM Tom_shop: i'll check the jumpers in a bit
04:31 PM JT-Shop: I'm thinking of going for end to end on Shelby Rd
04:31 PM JT-Shop: tomorrow
04:31 PM Tom_shop: haha i think it was jumpered for spi
04:32 PM JT-Shop: that might not work...
04:32 PM Tom_shop: try again
04:32 PM Tom_shop: i was testing it on the rpi with spi once
04:33 PM Tom_shop: works great now
04:33 PM Tom_shop: :)
04:33 PM Tom_shop: it'll probably work on the other pc now too
04:33 PM JT-Shop: awesome
04:33 PM Tom_shop: but i need to bump back to 3.4.2
04:33 PM Tom_shop: i'll make a good note of that for sure
04:34 PM Tom_shop: the rpi spi test must have been the last time i had that board out
04:35 PM * Tom_shop makes sure to plug the pp cable back in
04:37 PM Tom_shop: and test runs the mill to be sure
04:37 PM Tom_shop: i doubt there are many pp interface mills out there now
04:37 PM Tom_shop: i'll let pcw--home decide whether to patch mesaflash or not
04:40 PM * CaptHindsight caring whips Tom with wet noodles for not checking jumpers earlier
04:43 PM Tom_L: yeah yeah
04:43 PM Tom_L: i may not have found the mesaflash glitch otherwise
04:52 PM JT-Shop: I was going to put a camera under the carport but it's too late now
04:55 PM CaptHindsight: Nature is Awesome
04:57 PM Tom_L: and it works on the test mb now too
04:57 PM Tom_L: :)
04:57 PM JT-Shop: making progress
04:59 PM Tom_L: and the 7i80 works there now as well
05:00 PM Tom_L: and the firmware looks right on both of them
05:11 PM unterhausen: I have this weird theory that if I buy prescription safety glasses, I'll be able to find them
05:14 PM unterhausen: for whatever reason, searching for "safety glasses for my big fat face" doesn't return any results
05:15 PM JT-Shop: comes back with my big fat greek wife?
05:15 PM * JT-Shop thinks the doe will give birth tonight to a pair of twins
05:17 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> Starliner finally lifted off....
05:18 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> AFT....................... about fracking time
05:18 PM unterhausen: actually, "fat face" returns more results than "large"
05:18 PM unterhausen: but if you put bifocal in the mix, it erases all that
05:22 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, maybe you'll catch that
05:22 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: good chicken dad, good deer dad.......
05:23 PM JT-Shop: I wish I had put a camera in the carport now
05:25 PM Tom_L: too late now?
05:25 PM * Tom_L packs these boards up while he's still ahead of the game
05:26 PM JT-Shop: yup, I don't want to disturb her at this point she is almost ready to give birth
05:26 PM JT-Shop: I even went out of my way to not use the normal place to turn the truck around when I got home today
05:27 PM Tom_L: the configs aren't quite identical but i know the difference
05:27 PM Tom_L: the spare doesn't have a stepgen for the A axis
05:27 PM Tom_L: she somewhat used to you now?
05:29 PM JT-Shop: yup she just watches me when I walk past
05:29 PM JT-Shop: but I think the soon to be birth is making her stay closer to her chosen spot
05:50 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> wellllll, just hit 99............
05:50 PM JT-Shop: yuck
05:50 PM JT-Shop: going to be 60 in the am here...
05:51 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> i'm inside, AC started up around 11 today. set at 80 for the indoors
05:51 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> got my 13 mile easy ride in early
05:52 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> forecast tomorrow is only 89
05:52 PM Tom_L: 85 tomorrow here
05:52 PM JT-Shop: I'm going for a much longer ride tomorrow if I feel good about it
05:53 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> of course, the heat is about all the local news talks about......lectures the audience like we're stupid kids.
05:53 PM Tom_L: depends on the generation
05:53 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: definitely try that map my ride thing
05:54 PM JT-Shop: I have map my ride
05:54 PM JT-Shop: I think it's going to be about 14 miles
05:55 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> that's good. go easy and enjoy
05:55 PM JT-Shop: I scoped out the last hill and think it's going to be ok
05:55 PM JT-Shop: still need a bit smaller chain ring
05:57 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> what size? what's the hole pattern? 4 bolts? bolt circle diameter ???
05:58 PM JT-Shop: I need to check what I have
06:10 PM * JT-Shop calls it a night
06:21 PM XXCoder1: sushiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
06:54 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> the high class sushi chef delivered some stuff today to our house while i was at work, a most honorable suprise
06:56 PM XXCoder1: fancy. mine is just winco sushi
07:34 PM unterhausen: sam's club has people that make fresh sushi. Keep meaning to try it
07:35 PM Tom_L: it's pretty good
07:35 PM Tom_L: cheaper than alot of places here
07:37 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> i dont wanna sound like a snob, but i will anyways, the higher quality fish is so worth it
07:38 PM Tom_L: she's tried most of them and likes sam's as well as the rest
07:38 PM Tom_L: i'm not wild about sushi personally
07:38 PM Tom_L: and she's fairly particular
07:38 PM XXCoder1: sure but im not going to drive out to eat out. im already having to go out tomorrow which is ugh
07:39 PM bjorkintosh: i like sushi without cream cheese and avocado. guess what most grocery stores stuff in their sushi..
07:39 PM Tom_L: we went so often to one they special made it when they saw us walk in
07:40 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> dont think im a millionare, my mom met a fancy sushi chef through her work. he has some kind of highend sushi catering company, but have like a few personal side clients. so he just drops it off for cash
07:41 PM * bjorkintosh thinks big_kevin420 is a big deal among sushi chefs
07:57 PM CaptHindsight: bjorkintosh: have you tried going to Japan for sushi? It is usually free of both cream cheese and avocado there
07:58 PM bjorkintosh: well they usually hold it at restaurants when I ask them.
07:59 PM CaptHindsight: Tom_L: did they have a Cowboy roll or 10 Gallon Hat platter? :p
08:00 PM CaptHindsight: I'd embrace the local culture if I ever opened a sushi place
08:09 PM jdh: there's an Exxon down the street with great sushi
08:09 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> that could just be a hotdog in a bun, cut like sushi
08:10 PM CaptHindsight: i don't trust much from gas stations myself
08:10 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> pfft yuppie, probably dont get vending machine sushi either
08:11 PM Tom_L: CaptHindsight, naw.. that's at Texas Roadhouse
08:12 PM CaptHindsight: we have tamales on a bicycle here
08:13 PM CaptHindsight: guys ride around with coolers on their bikes filled with 12 packs of tamales
08:13 PM Tom_L: roasted corn on the cob
08:14 PM CaptHindsight: those as well
08:14 PM Tom_L: old man on a bike with a push cart
08:14 PM Tom_L: best in town
10:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Lol - the well pump quit this afternoon..
10:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Pulled it out. Got a new pump. Replace it tomorrow
10:18 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> (it it opened up)
10:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it is about 100ft down - but dad has always used 1/2 hp pumps.. That is about the limit of those pumps.. Trying to decide if I want to put in a 3/4hp
10:35 PM mrec: https://streamable.com/swj1d6
10:35 PM mrec: finally I got the toolchanger work with the original mitsubishi system
10:35 PM mrec: next is to reverse engineer the spindle and the motors to interface it with linuxcnc
10:36 PM XXCoder1: wow amazing to see pile of rust move ;)
10:36 PM XXCoder1: nice work though
10:36 PM mrec: the machine was a paperweight before I touched it
10:37 PM mrec: it lost all the settings, all the macros
10:37 PM XXCoder1: dead computer eh
10:37 PM XXCoder1: no way to extract those?
10:37 PM mrec: Y amplifier was dead, X encoder didn'T work properly, Y encoder had problems
10:37 PM mrec: I received a corrupted backup from the manufacturer, but it didn't fully match the machine (eg. tool changer positions are stored in the configuration it was not correct anymore)
10:38 PM mrec: the PLC itself was copy protected, luckily I figured out which latches had to be set to re-enable the functionality
10:39 PM mrec: the PLC sucks.. I value the HAL file and a good configuration
10:39 PM XXCoder1: yep. no properity nonsense blocking fixes etc
10:40 PM mrec: the only good part about Mitsubishi is that they released all the documentation for that system (no system level details how to control the motors though unfortunately)
10:42 PM XXCoder1: interesting. well great that youre making progress tho
10:43 PM XXCoder1: mitsubishi is generally good machines
10:43 PM mrec: yes, however I still prefer linuxcnc
10:44 PM mrec: I tried to put the toolchanger code into a while loop for testing .. what did I get back? while not supported
10:44 PM mrec: need to put it into a function and run that function and loop via function call
10:45 PM mrec: I fear that 19200kbit will be too slow for my purpose .. so I hope I can get LinuxCNC on tht
10:45 PM mrec: that*
10:46 PM XXCoder1: lol all I can do is wish you luck lol
11:21 PM mrec: https://streamable.com/w6t2bv
11:21 PM mrec: that's the other video, yes it's a pile of rust
11:23 PM XXCoder1: you want it to get functional before cleaning it anyway (well besides clean the vital movement system stuff that is)
11:23 PM mrec: yes, still quite some way to go with it