#linuxcnc Logs

May 31 2024

12:56 AM Deejay: moin
01:20 AM pere: <URL: https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_2024_LinuxCNC_Norwegian_developer_gathering.html >
01:20 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Hello
02:14 AM roycroft: càit a bheil an t-eadar-theanghachadh gàidhlig? (where is the gaelic translation?)d
02:15 AM roycroft: no irish, nor cornish, nor welsh, nor manx, either
02:15 AM roycroft: linuxcnc is anti-celtite~
02:15 AM roycroft: !
02:17 AM roycroft: but seriously, your project does seem to be coming along well, and the list of supported languages is pretty substantial
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04:07 AM pere: roycroft: all those translations are waiting for the first translator to show up and start translating.
04:20 AM lcnc-relay: <TurBoss> morning
04:33 AM Tom_L: morning
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05:15 AM JT-Cave: morning
06:04 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, i was setting up a test pc for the mill and noticed xyzh sim has an error now since you renamed the tool widgets
06:05 AM JT-Cave: ok
06:05 AM Tom_L: need to find a box for the mb but the latency looked pretty good
06:11 AM JT-Cave: I'm not seeing any errors with xyzh.ini
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07:31 AM Tom_dev: JT-Cave,
07:31 AM Tom_dev: Note: Using POSIX realtime
07:31 AM Tom_dev: Traceback (most recent call last):
07:31 AM Tom_dev: File "/usr/bin/flexgui", line 177, in <module>
07:31 AM Tom_dev: gui = flexgui()
07:31 AM Tom_dev: ^^^^^^^^^
07:31 AM Tom_dev: File "/usr/bin/flexgui", line 139, in __init__
07:31 AM Tom_dev: startup.setup_tools(self)
07:31 AM Tom_dev: File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/libflexgui/startup.py", line 815, in setup_tools
07:31 AM Tom_dev: parent.tool_change_cb.addItem('Tool 0', 0)
07:31 AM Tom_dev: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
07:31 AM Tom_dev: AttributeError: 'flexgui' object has no attribute 'tool_change_cb'. Did you mean: 'tool_change_pb'?
07:33 AM Tom_L: nevermind
07:33 AM Tom_L: i was using an outdated copy in configs
07:34 AM Tom_L: just had the urge to break something...
08:07 AM Tom_L: well look at the bright side... at least the plot doesn't error
09:38 AM JT-Cave: doesn't do anything either lol
10:09 AM Tom_L: i'd start with the bounding box
10:09 AM Tom_L: ... don't ask me why
10:09 AM JT-Cave: ok sounds good to me let me know when you have it working
10:10 AM Tom_L: i got my whole team working on it :)
10:13 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> you and your 6 other personalities?
10:14 AM JT-Cave: I'd be happy to just get gcode.parse() to work righ now
10:16 AM JT-Cave: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/lib/python/rs274/glcanon.py#L2002
10:16 AM JT-Cave: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/52712-gcode-preview-as-json
10:25 AM JT-Cave: https://paste.debian.net/1318732/ I can't even get that to work...
10:26 AM JT-Cave: https://paste.debian.net/1318733/ that should be the output
10:27 AM JT-Cave: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/52712-gcode-preview-as-json
10:38 AM Tom_L: does python have a debugger?
10:38 AM Tom_L: i've found them to be useful in the past
10:39 AM Tom_L: set breakpoints, single step etc
10:39 AM Tom_L: display all the local, global etc vars
10:39 AM bjorkintosh: it does.
10:39 AM bjorkintosh: ipdb
10:40 AM bjorkintosh: https://medium.com/geekculture/how-to-debug-in-python-330beb599792
10:43 AM Tom_L: it might give a different view of what is happening
12:10 PM JT-Cave: create an account to read the full story... that ain't gonna happen
12:19 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, do you have a test program to launch the plotter?
12:20 PM JT-Cave: nope, the widget gets loaded if you have the correct container
12:20 PM JT-Cave: plot_widget
12:21 PM Tom_L: i thought about installing that debugger and seeing if i could see anything but it would be easier to isolate it
12:21 PM JT-Cave: I just use print functions to debug with
12:21 PM Tom_L: i've done that alot too but things i couldn't figure out i'd debug
12:22 PM * JT-Cave goes to take a very quick nap
12:22 PM Tom_L: on micros i'd use leds alot too
12:23 PM JT-Cave: the problem I'm having is just trying to figure out what does what the code in emc is so convoluted it ain't funny
12:24 PM Tom_L: yeah it's not the best work i've seen
12:24 PM Tom_L: ok bak in a few
12:27 PM JT-Cave: ok
12:50 PM Tom_L: ok
12:53 PM Tom_L: ipdb uses pip to install
12:53 PM JT-Cave: I never use pip
12:54 PM Tom_L: i don't either
12:54 PM Tom_L: i logged into that site with an old gmail
12:54 PM Tom_L: so they can spam me all they want
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12:57 PM Tom_dev: insert: import ipdb; ipdb.set_trace() on the error line and it will set a breakpoint
12:58 PM Tom_dev: At the ipdb prompt, you can also type help to get a list of commands. The most useful commands are list, step, next, continue, print, and quit.
12:58 PM Tom_dev: unless i can find a deb i doubt i install it
12:59 PM Tom_dev: synaptic package manager has python3-ipdb
01:08 PM Tom_L: i saved that article as an libreoffice file if you want to look at it: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/ ipdb.odt
01:17 PM Tom_L: i'd set up half dozen breakpoints and see what's going on at each stage
01:22 PM Tom_L: nap time first
01:52 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> ok,, just finished my ride..... 22.2 miles. 2400 ft climbing. 2-1/2 hours ride
02:00 PM XXCoder: fun
02:00 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> You did 2400' of altitude change?
02:00 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> yeah. man..... 4 big hills. and lots of little ups and downs.
02:01 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> So 2400' of up and down
02:01 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> out and around in a pretty rural area. very hilly.
02:02 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> Nice
02:02 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/gleuCYRPCDnVJNMuTPhSPZlc/image.png
02:02 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I'm up to 9 miles, unsure about altitude change, I need to run map my ride
02:04 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> one hill is called Pig Farm. used to be a big pig farm at the top. the other hills were 2 of the 3 Bears. there's Pappa Bear, Momma Bear, and Baby Bear. only did Mamma and Baby today.
02:04 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> and the back side of Happy Valley.... the steepest of the hills, and most narrow and rough.
02:05 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> Its on a 2 lane road or a trail?
02:05 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT: try Strava, phone app. it's pretty good, and free.
02:05 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I don't like ads lol
02:06 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> closer to a one lane..... very narrow
02:06 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> No traffic?
02:06 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> yeah. I get ya. I hate all the add shit too
02:07 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> no, not much traffic. and the locals on the road are pretty curtious and safe, go around wide,
02:07 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I just run map my ride once to see elevation
02:07 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> that's cool too
02:07 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> Sounds like a good place to ride
02:08 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> yeah. i enjoy it, even with the big hills. that's what gears are for.
02:09 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I have 1 big hill and 2 smaller ones
02:09 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I need a cassette with a slightly larger first gear
02:10 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> on my road bike the lowest gear is 34 front, 30 rear.
02:10 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> years ago, it would have been 39 23. way different. a bit older now.
02:11 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I'll have to see what mine is
02:11 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I hear that
02:12 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I changed my mtn from 27 speed to 9 speed
02:13 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> Single chain ring and removed the deirallier
02:14 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> so, close by is Mt Diablo. top is 3850 feet. my goal for the summer is to ride up. haven't done it in a few years.
02:14 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> it's long and windy road up. giant view from the top.....like 300 miles all around.....
02:15 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> Wow
02:15 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> there's a light house on top. for airplanes long before radar.
02:16 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I could do that on the BlueWing
02:16 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> But not on the Giant
02:17 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> there is an annual ride / race up it. the record is like 44 1/2 minutes. fricking mutants....... my time will be like 2+ hours.
02:18 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> That's nuts
02:18 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> So back down is easy?
02:18 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> oh, yeah.....
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> check this out.
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/CJdTjTqInJoPOqfsgptHFAJI/gear%20inch.pdf
02:20 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> it my gear-inch chart. it how cyclists talk about gearing....
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> I'll have to look on my pc, phone is too small lol
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/LGnDVolwjcrBwAbeLOahcYSv/gear%20inch.xls
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> there's the actual spreadsheet.
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> Cool
02:23 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> What are the columns and rows
02:23 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> ok, finished my banana, peanut butter, honey shake....... time for a shower
02:24 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> column A is the chainring teeth. row 2 is the cog teeth
02:24 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> Ok
02:24 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> A2 is the wheel size, in mm
03:33 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, does the plotter look in the subdir 'plot' for those files as well?
04:00 PM JT-Cave: no
04:01 PM Tom_L: so startup makes a call to flexplot.py to initiate it
04:09 PM JT-Shop: yup if the plot_widget container is found startup puts the flexplot.py class into that container
04:10 PM Tom_L: so plotter inherits all those properties
04:12 PM JT-Shop: so the class properties are part of the plotter
04:12 PM Tom_L: what about class graphics and class statcanon
04:13 PM Tom_L: looks like graphics are added but not statcanon
04:14 PM JT-Shop: https://github.com/jethornton/flexgui/blob/master/flexgui/src/libflexgui/startup.py#L892
04:15 PM Tom_L: yeah that's what i'm looking at
04:15 PM Tom_L: is statcanon loaded somewhere? it sounds like that's where the graphic data originates...
04:17 PM JT-Shop: statcannon is from one of the files in plot and I'm not sure what it does
04:19 PM Tom_L: ok
04:20 PM Tom_L: it's defined 2x
04:20 PM JT-Shop: where?
04:20 PM Tom_L: once in flexplot.py and again in lcnc_graphics.py
04:20 PM Tom_L: ln 78 & 140
04:21 PM JT-Shop: I might have copied it from lcnc_grapics.py
04:21 PM Tom_L: lcnc_graphics.py isn't called then?
04:21 PM JT-Shop: no
04:21 PM Tom_L: ok
04:21 PM JT-Shop: just using it as an example
04:21 PM JT-Shop: is it still in libflex?
04:22 PM Tom_L: yes
04:22 PM Tom_L: that's why i wondered
04:24 PM Tom_L: i'm not exactly sure where i'd insert breakpoints yet
04:25 PM Tom_L: python3-ipdb sucks in a metric ton of files
04:25 PM JT-Shop: pdb is better it's part of python
04:26 PM JT-Shop: no real reason to try and use it because nothing works
04:26 PM Tom_L: it might tell you what is getting initialized
04:26 PM Tom_L: and what isn't
04:28 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: put these on your bike.... https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-gear/lightweight-fernweg-evo-pro-aero-road-wheels/
04:29 PM JT-Shop: not accepting their terms of use and privacy policy or cookies so can't see it
04:30 PM Tom_L: it's funny a bike is to ride for exercise then tried to make as light as possible to make it easier
04:30 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> set of wheels for $10k
04:30 PM JT-Shop: more than C8 wheels
04:30 PM XXCoder: tom when I was young I deliberately got the older design bike. I had legs of steel, expecially after gear changes broke and I just changed it to one gear
04:31 PM XXCoder: went uphills all time. calfornia is very hilly
04:31 PM Tom_L: i think i've broken one crank arm in my career
04:31 PM XXCoder: in least the location I lived at anyway
04:31 PM JT-Shop: I broke a seat post once
04:31 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: yeah, only 2 wheels.
04:32 PM XXCoder: jt that reminds me of that tv show where guy had bike seat stolen and he tries sandwinch on post
04:32 PM XXCoder: it doesnt work
04:33 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> cycling is like pretty much everything else..... spend all you want.... someone will take your cash.
04:57 PM JT-Cave: Tom_L, with emc running you can run the plot_generator.py from a terminal if you have the same ini and ngc files
05:00 PM JT-Shop: you would have to change the last two lines to the path on your pc
05:04 PM Tom_L: ok
05:04 PM JT-Shop: it prints out gcode.parse() results
05:04 PM Tom_L: just a plain sim and run the py from a term
05:05 PM JT-Shop: yup and make sure a ngc file is loaded in the sim
05:05 PM Tom_L: i've got emc sim that seems to work ok for that
05:05 PM Tom_L: is an ngc file hardcoded in the file too?
05:05 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:05 PM Tom_L: ok
05:06 PM JT-Shop: hmm may not need the ngc file in the sim
05:06 PM Tom_L: after things settle here a bit i may try that
05:17 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> hit 92 degrees here today. good thing I rode early...
05:17 PM JT-Shop: looking at your spreadsheet and I see a compact crank, I think that's what I put on the mtn bike and for sure I need that on the road bike
05:21 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> that's what a lot of the current cranksets are called. used to be standard rode bike with 53-39 chainrings. compact came along with 50-34. definitely drops the gearing.... much better for use oldies.
05:22 PM JT-Shop: looks like 36 but it's hard to count on the bike
05:22 PM JT-Shop: yup I need all the help I can get lol
05:25 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> my current crank has a 110mm bolt spacing. the smallest chainring I can buy is the 34. i've drawn a 32 but it doesn't quite fit. bolts interfere too much with the chain. I am pretty sure I can get a 33 to fit. may have to get creative with the bolts, but that's ok. gonna draw it out soon and make one.
05:25 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> 1 tooth different, but like you, I'll take all I can get.
05:27 PM JT-Shop: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KYBP9M9
05:27 PM JT-Shop: that's what I put on the mtn bike
05:28 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> looks ok.
05:29 PM JT-Shop: looks like a zillion options for crank arm length lol
05:30 PM JT-Shop: I assume that depends on the length of your leg?
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> that one says 170mm. that's a usual size. I ride 172.5 length
05:30 PM JT-Shop: the blue one?
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> shorter = faster spin............longer = more torque
05:31 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> yes, the blue one.
05:32 PM Tom_L: longer for hills?
05:33 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> if ya want. better to pick one and stick to it. legs and knees don't like changes. knees will notice a seat height difference of as little as 2 or 3 mm.
05:34 PM JT-Shop: I've been putzing with seat height a bit and I "think" I've found the best height
05:36 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, do you have simple.ngc in the flex package somewhere?
05:36 PM JT-Shop: no, but I can add it
05:36 PM Tom_L: i'll just load another one
05:37 PM Tom_L: or pastebin it
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05:41 PM Loetmichel: Re from putting my mother in law into the earth. And repair some small things in my (still-)wifes house after the funeral. Started the journey at 09:30 this morning. now its 00:30. 2 times 5h on the autobahn. Now I am pretty much done in. :(
05:43 PM JT-Shop: been a long day for you
05:45 PM Loetmichel: Kinda. In more aspects than one.
05:46 PM Tom_dev: when i use xyzh i get: Bad character '[' used
05:46 PM Tom_dev: when i run tom i get: Unknown word where unary operation could be
05:46 PM JT-Shop: do you have the ini and ngc file backwards?
05:46 PM Tom_dev: i don't think so
05:47 PM JT-Shop: and did you pull recently
05:47 PM Tom_dev: i was up to date this morning iirc
05:47 PM JT-Shop: that's old news...
05:47 PM Tom_dev: i get those after the g92 g54 ones
05:47 PM Tom_dev: ok
05:50 PM Tom_dev: did you add simple.ngc on that one?
05:50 PM JT-Shop: just a few minutes ago I added simple.ngc
05:50 PM Tom_dev: i found it
05:52 PM Tom_dev: set_g5x_offset 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05:52 PM Tom_dev: set_g92_offset 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05:52 PM Tom_dev: set_xy_rotation 0
05:52 PM Tom_dev: Bad character '[' used
05:52 PM JT-Shop: you have the ngc and ini files in the wrong place
05:53 PM JT-Shop: https://github.com/jethornton/flexgui/blob/master/plot/plot_generator.py#L54
05:55 PM Tom_dev: the configs were outdated
05:55 PM Tom_dev: i copied them from examples
05:55 PM JT-Shop: ?
05:55 PM Tom_dev: to the lcnc config folder
05:55 PM Tom_dev: xyz must have been old in linuxcnc/configs
05:56 PM JT-Shop: those don't matter
05:56 PM Tom_dev: i get a whole list of stuff now
05:57 PM JT-Shop: still don't understand exactly what's going on in plot_generator.py
05:57 PM Tom_dev: http://paste.debian.net/1318762/
05:57 PM Tom_dev: feed isn't set that i know of
05:57 PM JT-Shop: that's what I expect to see
05:58 PM JT-Shop: I think the first three columns are X Y and Z
05:58 PM Tom_dev: change them in the var file and see
05:59 PM JT-Shop: the var file has nothing to do with gcode.parse AFAIK
05:59 PM Tom_dev: it should read the offsets when the sim starts
05:59 PM JT-Shop: open your test ngc file
05:59 PM Tom_dev: my torture test?
05:59 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:59 PM Tom_dev: and run it?
06:00 PM JT-Shop: yup change the ngc file to your torture test and run plot_generator.py
06:02 PM Tom_dev: http://paste.debian.net/1318763/
06:03 PM Tom_dev: for the straight feeds the data looks right
06:03 PM JT-Shop: interesting, I assumed that's what it might return
06:04 PM Tom_dev: it moves 2" overall but returns to 0 so the 1" represents that on some moves
06:04 PM Tom_dev: x y and z change in it
06:04 PM Tom_dev: line 24 is an example of moving all 3 from zero
06:05 PM Tom_dev: 26 returns
06:05 PM Tom_dev: if i'm reading it right
06:07 PM Tom_dev: then the bottom of the file has the circles
06:07 PM JT-Shop: I assume after figuring out what plot gen is doing next is to get gcode.extents()
06:08 PM Tom_dev: what are the extra columns for the arcs?
06:08 PM JT-Shop: not sure
06:08 PM Tom_dev: plane maybe
06:08 PM Tom_dev: i dunno either
06:08 PM JT-Shop: maybe the p word or something
06:09 PM JT-Shop: dunno, would have to try different arcs and see what turns up
06:09 PM Tom_dev: easy enough... what do you want to see?
06:09 PM Tom_dev: those are cw, ccw then cw again
06:09 PM JT-Shop: try the different types of arcs
06:09 PM Tom_dev: 2" D
06:10 PM JT-Shop: center format and radius format and multiple turns
06:10 PM JT-Shop: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/gcode/g-code.html#gcode:g2-g3
06:11 PM Tom_dev: oh
06:11 PM JT-Shop: G2 or G3 axes offsets (center format)
06:11 PM JT-Shop: G2 or G3 axes R- (radius format)
06:11 PM JT-Shop: G2 or G3 offsets|R- <P-> (full circles)
06:11 PM Tom_dev: i'd have to edit my post i suppose for that
06:11 PM JT-Shop: just hand write a test file
06:16 PM JT-Shop: so Leo figured out he has the wrong gearbox in Tally Ho
06:16 PM Tom_dev: i don't think i've messed with chaning those much
06:16 PM JT-Shop: changing what?
06:17 PM Tom_dev: i'd have to read about the different formats for the arcs
06:17 PM JT-Shop: link above
06:17 PM Tom_dev: i know they are there but never mess with em much
06:17 PM JT-Shop: just use the examples from the docs
06:17 PM Tom_dev: yeah i have those open already
06:18 PM Tom_dev: i have some helix already here somewher
06:18 PM Tom_dev: e
06:19 PM Tom_dev: you mean using the 3 different work planes?
06:20 PM JT-Shop: no, the 3 different arc types
06:20 PM Tom_dev: ok
06:21 PM Tom_dev: so it knows what type whether i j z p are specified?
06:22 PM * JT-Shop calls it a day
06:22 PM JT-Shop: I'm not sure if the offsets are there
06:22 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop:Miller time
06:22 PM JT-Shop: yuck
06:22 PM Tom_dev: ok
06:23 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> chilled chardonay ???
06:23 PM JT-Shop: I wonder if columns 4,5,6 are offsets for an arc
06:23 PM JT-Shop: cab man
06:23 PM JT-Shop: cab or norton
06:24 PM JT-Shop: room temperature stirred not shaken
06:24 PM Tom_dev: you mean like line 33
06:24 PM JT-Shop: yes
06:24 PM JT-Shop: 33,34,35
06:25 PM Tom_dev: x y z i j k
06:25 PM Tom_dev: maybe
06:25 PM Tom_dev: iirc those differ depending on the plane 17 - 19
06:26 PM JT-Shop: I've never used plane other than xy
06:26 PM JT-Shop: anyway time to get my fat boy sweats on and retire to the couch
06:26 PM Tom_dev: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/toolplane1.jpg
06:26 PM Tom_dev: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/toolplane2.jpg
06:27 PM Tom_dev: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/toolplane3.jpg
06:27 PM Tom_dev: i was messin with my cad one day
06:33 PM Tom_dev: here's one for a helix: http://paste.debian.net/1318769/
06:33 PM Tom_dev: code is at the top
06:33 PM Tom_dev: that's that spring i wound
06:37 PM Tom_dev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lonf4ypINVM
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06:53 PM Tom_dev: ipdb commands: http://paste.debian.net/1318772/
06:54 PM Tom_dev: i added a breakpoint right before the print just to see
07:36 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwIBTbumd1Q
07:36 PM XXCoder: interesting
07:55 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://www.cnczone.com/forums/controller-amp-computer-solutions/470580-cnc.html
07:57 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I guess I still evangelize...
08:03 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Tom_dev: that is cool!
08:09 PM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
08:19 PM Tom_L: ?
08:19 PM Tom_L: oh the spring...
08:19 PM Tom_L: skunkworks, did you get roycroft
08:20 PM Tom_L: 's note?
08:41 PM rdtsc_away is now known as rdtsc
08:52 PM XXCoder: heyy https://youtu.be/7am-ysvGD3s
08:52 PM XXCoder: he got that quite rare machine
08:59 PM faheus2 is now known as faheus
09:08 PM Tom_L: XXCoder, i saw one of those tracers that was rotary too
09:08 PM XXCoder: nice
09:08 PM Tom_L: the guy mostly made roll stamps
09:08 PM XXCoder: im not surpised he got one honestly. he is cnc resistant lol
09:10 PM Tom_L: and my bud had the bridgeport one (pantograph) sp?
09:10 PM Tom_L: hydraulic
09:10 PM XXCoder: I think those is really cool but I doubt I will ever get one lol
09:11 PM Tom_L: low demand
09:11 PM XXCoder: yeah
09:11 PM XXCoder: I bet it'd be amazing if you engrave letters etc very often
09:11 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, i ran some arc tests and posted the results along side the files
09:12 PM XXCoder: I mean, literally minutes of setup vs cad gcode programming etc etc
09:12 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant/new/Pendant_face4.jpg
09:12 PM Tom_L: pretty easy really
09:13 PM XXCoder: I suppose. how long was programming and setup?
09:13 PM Tom_L: i've no idea
09:14 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant/new/Pendant2.jpg
09:14 PM XXCoder: thats awesome
09:15 PM Tom_L: the box was stamped aircraft containers for something
09:15 PM Tom_L: O material
09:15 PM Tom_L: pretty soft
09:17 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Boxes.jpg
09:17 PM Tom_L: probably done on a hydro press
09:18 PM XXCoder: likely yeah
09:18 PM Tom_L: i made a bunch of hydro press forms way back
09:19 PM Tom_L: sheet parts for planes
09:19 PM Tom_L: non critical
09:43 PM XXCoder: my earlier job training was cnc machining sheets to be punched into parts
10:56 PM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
11:26 PM roycroft: hello, folks
11:26 PM * roycroft is at his new residence now
11:26 PM roycroft: and sitting on the sofa, relaxing, not sitting in a hard folding chair in between tasks
11:27 PM roycroft: my cat is here now as well, and she seems to be adapting better than i anticipated
11:32 PM XXCoder: nice
11:33 PM roycroft: the move was nothing but chaos and calamity
11:33 PM roycroft: but the movers did great
11:33 PM roycroft: i have about half to two thirds of my stuff, excluding the shop, here
11:33 PM roycroft: the rest i'll sort through and see what i want to keep and what i want to get rid of
11:34 PM roycroft: the old house looks like a tornado went through it
11:34 PM roycroft: but the new place is pretty organized, although almost all my stuff is still in boxes
11:34 PM roycroft: tomorrow i'll start u
11:34 PM roycroft: npacking
11:35 PM roycroft: i have to get my network set up still - i'm on the default wireless network that my isp provided
11:35 PM roycroft: my equipment rack is installed, and powered on, but i have a lot of cabling to do before i can use it
11:37 PM roycroft: my only other task tonight, besides helping my cat settle in, is making my bed so i can get a good night's sleep