#linuxcnc Logs

Mar 31 2024

12:42 AM solarwind: Hmmmm I need to turn down a standard PH2 screwdriver bit (cylindrical shank) to a diameter of 3.5mm
12:56 AM solarwind: It's made of S2 steel and a long and narrow part like this is not going to be easy to turn
12:56 AM solarwind: Would be a lot easier with a cylindrical grinder or a centerless grinder
12:56 AM solarwind: I think I might just make a jig to slide it along my bench grinder using HGR linear rails
12:56 AM solarwind: with a chuck and motor to keep rotating it. So pretty much a super mini lathe built around a bench grinder lol
01:51 AM Deejay: moin
02:53 AM CaptHindsight: solarwind: if it's square and rigid enough then it's fine
04:32 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:53 AM Tom_L: morning
04:55 AM Tom_L: 9:43pm: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2024-03-30.html
05:24 AM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/eECwSAa292VN.png
05:30 AM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/xZinjb0wPsWz.png
05:31 AM JT-Cave: hmm tool offsets is not updated when you change tools
05:50 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
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05:50 AM JT-Cave: tool_touchoff_dsb -> tool_table_zoffset_0_lb: Error: Non integer value for integer
05:50 AM JT-Cave: Tom_L, what is that?
05:53 AM JT-Cave: ah if you change tools you have to run G43 to load the offsets
05:53 AM JT-Cave: I assume I should do that automagicly
07:29 AM JT-Cave: I need a logo...
07:34 AM Deejay: re
07:34 AM JT-Cave: ra
07:39 AM Tom_L: also i found manual & mdi _may_ be enabled during program run
07:40 AM Tom_L: and it sure messes things up
07:40 AM JT-Cave: manual?
07:41 AM Tom_L: i think the jog buttons were affecting it while running
07:42 AM Tom_L: another one is rapid override changed too
07:43 AM Tom_L: was getting a % and now it's showing up under max_velocity label
07:44 AM Tom_L: as a number
07:45 AM Tom_L: the log didn't catch all my comments if you scroll up
07:49 AM Tom_L: rapid_override_sl _was_ connected to rapidrate_lb but now it's connected to max_velocity_lb
07:52 AM Tom_L: there _is_ a max_velocit_sl in your notes but not implemented yet. i assume that _lb would be for that one instead
07:54 AM JT-Cave: rapid override seems to be broke atm
07:55 AM Tom_L: that was a recent change
07:56 AM Tom_L: until i started to break things, program run _was_ working pretty decent with pause resume and step
07:56 AM Tom_L: then manual & mdi showed up to play
08:00 AM JT-Cave: mdi is disabled now jog buttons I still need to do
08:00 AM Tom_L: ok
08:01 AM Tom_L: goin to shower
08:01 AM Tom_L: then i'll check
08:01 AM JT-Cave: time to start my chicken day and ponder why rapidrate_lb is not updated
08:24 AM JT-Cave: no need to ponder anything you told me what I did wrong...
08:24 AM JT-Cave: it just didn't register
08:27 AM JT-Cave: but maybe not...
08:40 AM JT-Cave: rapid override is a pia
08:51 AM Tom_L: heh
08:56 AM Tom_L: yeah jog is enabled even before estop
08:56 AM Tom_L: the buttons anyway
09:00 AM Tom_L: G43 H word in the program still messes with pause
09:01 AM JT-Cave: what does messes mean?
09:02 AM Tom_L: disables them
09:02 AM Tom_L: they are greyed out after running that line
09:02 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
09:02 AM Tom_dev: N5 G54 G00 X0.0 Y0.0
09:02 AM Tom_dev: N6 G43 Z1.25 H45
09:02 AM Tom_dev: N7 G00 Z1.1
09:04 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/G43_error.png
09:05 AM JT-Cave: G43 Z1.25 H45 Error
09:05 AM JT-Cave: Cannot use axis values without a g code that uses them
09:05 AM Tom_L: the offset value in tool 45 is 0 for z
09:05 AM Tom_L: it runs in axis
09:06 AM JT-Cave: break fast time here
09:06 AM Tom_L: G43 needs a short line to enable the H word
09:06 AM Tom_L: or it is enabled the next line it comes to
09:06 AM JT-Cave: that's not me reporting the error it's emc
09:08 AM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOLsLrPLbUg
09:08 AM Tom_L: that exact program running
09:08 AM Tom_L: it shifts the move 45 deg each pass so all quadrants are tested
09:09 AM Tom_L: then runs 3x iirc
09:22 AM Tom_L: as far as the error, all i can see is G0 was active in the previous line
09:23 AM Tom_L: so calling G43 G0 Z1.25 H45 or G43 G1 Z1.25 H45
09:23 AM Tom_L: is redundant
09:24 AM Tom_L: i put the whole file on the server if you want it
09:25 AM Tom_L: it needs a 3.5 x & y offset and a -2.5 z offset approx
09:30 AM Tom_L: the feed may be high if you run it
10:12 AM Unterhausen: I was the first to like JT's new video, yay
10:12 AM Tom_L: not even sure i'm linked to his channel
11:24 AM Tom_L: Roguish, wanna look at a gui?
11:24 AM Tom_L: still in progress
11:58 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> Tom_L: sure. post a snapshot
11:58 AM Tom_L: gimme a few, still adjusting a few things but got interrupted
11:58 AM Tom_L: just sim it, not ready for realtime yet
11:59 AM Tom_L: jt posted his xyz one in examples
12:09 PM Roguish: been watching your discussions here. lots of work going on....
12:12 PM Tom_L: yup
12:12 PM Tom_L: i'll post what i have but it's not near done
12:16 PM Tom_L: Roguish, do you have his examples folder in the config directory?
12:16 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/
12:16 PM Tom_L: copy the 2 jet_tom files there and add a desktop icon
12:17 PM Tom_L: it's a modified jet original
12:17 PM Tom_L: still moving things around
12:19 PM Roguish: it looks pretty good.... i'm not messing around with stuff much right now.
12:20 PM Tom_L: open for suggestions
12:20 PM Tom_L: i'm just using it to test his code really
12:20 PM Tom_L: just reposted the ui file
12:21 PM Roguish: are the touchoffs done in gcode, or python ?
12:22 PM Tom_L: may be a mdi command i'm not sure without looking
12:22 PM Roguish: no worries, just curious
12:23 PM Roguish: in qtdragon, morley uses mostly python for all the probing stuff
12:23 PM Tom_L: my ini had a typo in the gui=
12:23 PM Tom_L: no, it's ok in that one..
12:24 PM Tom_L: looks like touchoff is in commands.py as an mdi
12:25 PM Tom_L: ln 185
12:25 PM Tom_L: & 238 for tool
12:28 PM Tom_L: i'm using mine in keyboard mode not touch
12:28 PM Roguish: whichever is ok. as long as it works, and is fairly easy to fix if broken
12:29 PM Tom_L: if i used the touch qss file it may not all fit :)
02:07 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://youtu.be/GCxFkFkMels
02:08 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Throw out bearing sounds noisy.. But it runs suprisingly good. No muffler..
02:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Brakes and e-brake suprisingly work..
03:28 PM JT-Shop: that old thing has an e-brake... I thought they were called p-brake back then
03:35 PM Tom_L: i remember when the brights were a foot switch on the floor
03:36 PM Tom_L: that truck is probably like that
03:36 PM JT-Shop: it prob has a floor starter switch lol
03:37 PM JT-Shop: uptown if it has a two speed drive shaft
03:37 PM Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com/Standard-Motor-Products-DS70T-Dimmer/dp/B004C0LSW8/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NLAmML-jXH_Y83OuIFJjru3ajgB62kZee1Sd1udE84l4bLHAxqE5kAlByCTS43FbvmppNDSVePm5DZF_uhVregYUhuujWWoajq_lMFheMQIRpk5D1RviyvBAHv4xRFUiOoFhavP9RLv4kybsdABeviLVEy3-iqveGEe8CkMD9_J2HfABcNbl5fJKM4U1w5T0VieO1S02JDecuuJg5PuGw7X4U-K6Gmpdk1Y8ceu3z0M.wyWMul1pp6_awX7vXgMOJfL_Z2YMSsooLZc5m9X1FAA&dib_tag=se&keywords=high+beam+switch&qid=1711917373&sr=8-3
03:37 PM JT-Shop: I'm reworking the enable/disable and have to make some changes so things are in order
03:37 PM JT-Shop: trim those urls lol
03:37 PM Tom_L: i posted my ui but it only fits a keyboard layout
03:38 PM Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com/Standard-Motor-Products-DS70T-Dimmer/dp/B004C0LSW8/ref=sr_1_3
03:38 PM XXCoder: wow I dont remember when I last saw those in cars
03:38 PM XXCoder: years, possibly decade
03:39 PM Tom_L: several decades
03:39 PM XXCoder: for last inclusion in design yeah. im talking about me seeing one last time
03:40 PM XXCoder: it must have been my bros old blue truck
03:40 PM Tom_L: the only starter you needed was a hill and granny gear
03:40 PM JT-Shop: `91 was the last year a vehicle had a floor dimmer switch
03:40 PM JT-Shop: a ford pickup
03:40 PM XXCoder: my bro truck was 1986 ford
03:40 PM Tom_L: i figured they were gone long before that
03:41 PM Tom_L: now the cpu does it for you
03:43 PM JT-Shop: on the Honda Insight I got to use auto recently and preferred to dim manually
03:43 PM XXCoder: auto lower or high beams?
03:44 PM Tom_L: yes
03:44 PM XXCoder: my car is 2012 focus so it dont have that
03:44 PM XXCoder: I very nearly never use high beams
03:44 PM Tom_L: https://www.npdlink.com/product/switch-starter-floor-mounted-w-side-stud-foot/206251/100506
03:45 PM JT-Shop: yup that's was on the farm truck at grand parents farm
03:46 PM Tom_L: when i was a kid i think my parents had a car with one
03:46 PM Tom_L: dunno what it was
04:08 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Yes - this has a floor pedal for the starter.
04:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I havent looked at the starter to see if I could add a solinoid - but the floor starter pedal does work
04:10 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I think the last car I drove that had a hi/lo beam on the floor was probably my 80 pickup
04:24 PM JT-Shop: my `80 C10 Custom Deluxe pickup had a floor dimmer switch
04:26 PM JT-Shop: 305, column shift 3 speed and am radio and ac
04:26 PM Tom_L: wd-ac?
04:26 PM JT-Shop: factory air iirc
04:27 PM Tom_L: ok, when did they stop putting side floor vents in cars?
04:27 PM Tom_L: and the wing side windows
04:27 PM Tom_L: i loved those
04:27 PM JT-Shop: yup the vent windows were great
04:30 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Got to pull the generator out and put an alternator in it.
04:31 PM JT-Shop: my `56 Ferguson has a generator on it so the tractor meter works
04:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> the ford 4000 is that way - the generator had the mechanical tach attached to the back. Dad ended up finding someone that makes converted alternators that has the tach connection
04:32 PM JT-Shop: cool
04:34 PM JT-Shop: my `57 VW 6v generator never worked very well so I just push started it every time
04:35 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> The 52's generator isn't hooked up.
04:35 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> so - I wonder how far you get on a full battery
04:36 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I need to just start pulling the electrical out of it.. It is so bad.
04:38 PM JT-Shop: the big truck is the `52?
04:39 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> sorry - 42
04:39 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I seem to make that mistake a lot
04:39 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> eh +/-10 years.
04:40 PM JT-Shop: when you're that old it doesn't matter
04:40 PM Tom_L: where did you find the carb kit for it?
04:41 PM Tom_L: can you still get parts?
04:43 PM JT-Shop: when I rebuilt the Ferguson I was able to find a lot of new parts
04:43 PM Tom_L: jc whitney used to have old car parts. haven't had a need for them in years
04:43 PM Tom_L: no idea what they carry now
04:44 PM Tom_L: their search goes back to '51
04:44 PM JT-Shop: I need to install debian 12 on the windblows 10 laptop but it doesn't have a cd drive
04:44 PM Tom_L: do the web install from a cd
04:45 PM Tom_L: usb i mean
04:45 PM Tom_L: i keep a usb cd drive in the drawer
04:45 PM JT-Shop: need something to keep me busy while the surgeon carves on the wife
04:45 PM JT-Shop: yup need to make a usb install
04:46 PM JT-Shop: I have some micro sd cards and usb adapters
04:46 PM Tom_L: iirc i did the web install on the last one
04:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Tom_L: The engine was replaced with a 60's vintage engine. So - I think it is a bit easier to find engine parts.
04:46 PM Tom_L: those should work
04:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it was a Rochester carb - seemed really easy to find parts
04:47 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it had the tag on it still - so I had the part number
04:47 PM Tom_L: rochester were on just about everything back then
04:47 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> hmm - did I put it back on when I put it back togather? I don't remember
04:47 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> sounds like it.
04:47 PM JT-Shop: like an aluminum tag?
04:48 PM Tom_L: i've seen a few like that
04:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> the gas pedal is a mechanical linkage to the carb - the bottom part of the pedal isn't connected anymore.. (it doesn't hinge)
04:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> yes - the aluminum stamped tag
04:48 PM Tom_L: interesting driving that way
04:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I should fix that too
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> If I didn't put it back on the carb - hopefully it is in the box with the extra carb parts.. (I also found a sping that I may or may not have put back into the carb..)
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> spring
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> so - I might want to take it apart one more time
04:52 PM Tom_L: manual choke?
04:52 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> No! and it seems to work great...
04:52 PM Tom_L: heh
04:52 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> It started right up and ran great cold
04:52 PM JT-Shop: does it have an exhaust warmed choke coil?
04:53 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I have seen references to the automatic choke on this rochester carb being pretty decent.
04:53 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> yes - tube from the exauste
04:53 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it also has some sort of vaccum port that pulls the choke around too
04:54 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> (a little brass piston)
05:27 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> big_kevin420 here's the video. Have yet to try a non-dma config. Will be doing that before posting an update. Definitely only affects X axis.
05:27 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/gxPnmlrHCPMyjeIXjGMzpidm/VID20240401112425.mp4
05:29 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> first thing i notice......
05:29 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> your screen doesnt fit the display
05:29 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> yeahhhhh don't get me started
05:29 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> you must be using on of those smaller screens
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> ohh please
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> 1024x600, new screen is on its way
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> let me get you started
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> looks like you could use some kind of interface thats fits a smaller display
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> this screen is being relegated to printer duty as soon as my shipment arrives
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> yeah, for sure... I'm just not chasing that waterfall just yet...
05:30 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> ohh but ui have just the thing
05:31 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> sorry i didnt watch the whole video yet
05:31 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> you got me totally side tracked
05:31 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> with your GUI
05:31 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> lmaoooo
05:31 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> lets see if i can slip a shameless self promotion in hjere before i help
05:32 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://github.com/cakeslob/regularmac_800/blob/main/images/2022-10-19-205504_1024x768_scrot.png
05:32 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> how about something more your size
05:33 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cakeslob/regularmac_800/main/images/2022-10-19-205504_1024x768_scrot.png
05:33 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://github.com/cakeslob/regularmac_800
05:33 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> cakeslobs "regularmac_800" can save you from this headache
05:34 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> you even have the same use case (plasma)
05:34 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> nice
05:34 PM Tom_L: big_kevin, is that your work?
05:35 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> yeah
05:35 PM Tom_L: iirc you mentioned that a while back
05:35 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> oh, on discord i am cakeslob
05:35 PM Tom_L: i know
05:35 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> i mention it every time i can
05:35 PM Tom_L: is it a modified axis/
05:35 PM Tom_L: ?
05:35 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> yeah
05:35 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> just a usercomnmand file
05:36 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> i actually took out all the plasma stuff
05:36 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> HA
05:36 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> I loaded up the "ec500-rt1052.txt" file, and X has stopped walking
05:36 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> ok, looking at it move n stuff
05:36 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> tis a DMA bug
05:36 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> well, im thinking something to do with the dir pin hold
05:37 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> because it would be doing some kind of pulse
05:37 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> when its doing that 49.999 to 50.000
05:37 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> it would be pulsing on the deadband stuff
05:37 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> but your isnt changing direction
05:37 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> if you have a look at the scope traces, its both pulsing on the pulse pin, and the dir pin is bouncing around
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> right i remember now
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> ok good
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> so the its doing what it is "suppossed" to be doings
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> doing, but the dir isnt flipping in the stepper possibly
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> but it looks like way more pulses than it should be
05:39 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> DIR has much longer hold time in the traces than the pulse does
05:39 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> what if you set it longer in the config file?
05:39 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> at least its a dma thing. i havent used the dma yet because i dont have an rtboard, so im not very firmiliar with it
05:46 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> I do also think that I might have the minimum pulse time set a little short, as if I switch off the microstepping on the driver, the stepper just sits in place and screams...
05:46 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> but that's a problem for another time
05:53 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> but try out the screen thing 😉 thats always a problem for now
05:57 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> the 7" has already been returned to its home on the printer. I don't have the space to leave things set up in this room
05:57 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> (And without the rest of the mechanical components, I can't really move it to the garage)
06:09 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> for next time 😉 think about it
06:13 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> I was thinking I might see if I can adapt something like KlipperScreen... which has a very touch-friendly UI and doesn't require running a window manager
06:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> big_kevin420 what is a good 101 on using the pi and the hardware you gave me?
07:12 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> hmm lets see
07:12 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> the offical one
07:12 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://remora-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro/intro.html
07:12 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> then this one
07:12 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://github.com/cakeslob/Remora-docs/blob/nucleo/docs/source/hardware/nucleo446.rst
07:13 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> fuck i lost my easy start guide on my SSD when it messed u;p
07:14 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> ok 101 guide
07:17 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> Step 1 - Install some kind of OS for RPI
07:17 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> i like to use elovalvos images from the forum, but you can use what ever probably, or this one but its a bit old
07:18 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/39779-rpi4-raspbian-64-bit-linuxcnc?start=340
07:19 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://github.com/Expatria-Technologies/remora-flexi-hal/releases or this one, kinda old
07:19 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> step 2, install the component
07:19 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://github.com/cakeslob/Remora/tree/nucleo_static/LinuxCNC/Components
07:20 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> step3 load the firmware
07:20 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://github.com/cakeslob/Remora/tree/nucleo_static/Firmware/FirmwareBin/NUCLEO_F446RE
07:20 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> drag and drop this thing via usb
07:20 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> I really need to properly test out this BTT-Pi. Seems to support RPi builds of linux, and runs natively on 24v
07:21 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> the h6?
07:21 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> er 616>?
07:21 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> yep
07:21 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> step4 make the hardware cable, like this https://github.com/cakeslob/Remora-docs/blob/nucleo/docs/source/hardware/nucleo446.rst#wiring-to-raspberry-pi-for-spi-communication
07:21 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> i think iincluded the file
07:21 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> several peoples' docs talk about installing official rpi firmware on it... I'm using armbian, but still
07:22 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> that might be if you are using the cm4
07:22 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> uh... no, not the BTT CB1. The BTT Pi
07:22 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> ah ok
07:23 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> shit ill just type out the guide 1 sec
07:23 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> but the CB1 and the Pi are the same hardware (run the same image) so its much of a muchness
07:25 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> yeah
07:25 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> fucking rpi header on the oppsite side thought
07:25 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> seems kinda unlikely the rpi os would work thought...
07:28 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> yeah, the header and ports being flipped is kinda weird. the SD slot is also in a slightly different place
07:28 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> and yes, I thought that too... not that it really matters, as it has 'premium support' for armbian
07:29 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> ha
07:29 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> meaning it might actually work at one point in history
07:29 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> I am running one in my printer
07:30 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> it boots quicker than the rpi4, and has actual native support for monitors at boot time
07:30 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> no dsi support kinda killed me
07:30 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> plan is to run the plasma on one, because 24v
07:30 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> eh, the DSI stuff for the rpi is horrific broadcom proprietary garbage anyway
07:30 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> got the pad5 to use with it.....no dsi support
07:31 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> not anymore, linuxkernel shit now
07:31 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> skunkworks8841 here i did a quick type up
07:31 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/FIsAszMatITPujwqfkEEuVep/remo_quick.txt
07:32 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> I still have a passionate dislike for broadcom, which may be colouring my opinion on the rpi
07:32 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> the blob shit was a pain but its gotten much better from when the 4 came out, its pretty decernt
07:33 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> I have been in the process of designing/procuring a new virtualisation solution at work for the past year
07:33 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> broadcom have.... severely spannered us.
07:34 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> ahh i see, so you have to deal with them
07:34 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> no, they changed our cost model for the solution from "spend 50k once" to "spend 50k per year to run 1/8th of your cluster"
07:36 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> oh, and we have to do all this through one of their small number of approved partners now... rather than our own account
07:37 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> so yeah, have already been kinda anti-broadcom for years, now its cemented.
07:37 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> also being able to avoid having an extra PSU in the control box is nice.
07:38 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> solution as a service model?
07:39 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> license subscription model
07:39 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> f
07:39 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> vs perpetual
07:39 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> they stripped a bunch of key functionality out of the lower license tiers and killed off the free one completely
07:40 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> this is 2024 business model. at least mastercam isnt removing stuff....yet...
07:41 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> Still waiting to see when windows goes subscription only
07:41 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> though I'm starting to think MS might have decided 'money isn't in operating systems, its in value add software and games'
07:42 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> yeah i thought they went oppsite, that windows was basically free now
07:43 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> for end users, they don't make much effort to stop you obtaining it for free anymore
07:43 PM lcnc-relay: <ranga> apple kinda lead the way with that one
07:47 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> yeah but what is anyone gonna do with pirated macos
07:51 PM zyp: run a hackintosh, I did that for a decade
07:52 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> big_kevin420 thanks!
07:53 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> shit 10 prototype boards wasnt enought, and all these new users are exposing my sloppy maintaing of the project
07:54 PM XXCoder: more eyes less bugs
07:55 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> i mean, i know where everything is.....everyone else should just read my mind. it doesnt help when the main author of the project reverts/regresses the project seperatly on his own, and i need to figure out what is regression and what is intentional
08:46 PM roycroft: i sure hope nobody can ready my mind
08:46 PM roycroft: i don't want to be reponsible for the damage that might cause
08:47 PM XXCoder: I dont think I can ready your mind. thats on you