#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 14 2024

01:20 AM solarwind: https://canucktools.ca/makita-shear-wrench-6922nb/
01:33 AM solarwind: What's a shear wrench?
01:33 AM solarwind: This site has shown me tools I've never come across
02:19 AM Deejay: moin
03:45 AM Tom_L: morning
03:46 AM Tom_L: -3°F High 5°F
03:51 AM NoSpark: morning all
03:53 AM NoSpark: I seem to be missing packet uarts on my 7i80 mesa card, does the mean I need to compile a custom bitfile?
04:53 AM JT-Cave: MORNING
04:56 AM JT-Cave: hmm who left the caps lock on?
06:10 AM CaptHindsight: we won't be above 0F (-18C) until Wednesday
08:43 AM JT-Shop: the deck sounds like firecrackers going off as I walk on it
08:52 AM Tom_L: the sounds we're used to are definitely different today
08:52 AM Tom_L: up to -2°F now
09:00 AM Tom_L: what's a line continuation character in python or does it just wrap?
09:01 AM Tom_L: ; works in clipper
09:01 AM Tom_L: but it's not whitespace sensitive either
09:09 AM JT-Cave: \
09:10 AM JT-Cave: if I'm doing say a long text I wrap it in ()
09:12 AM Tom_L: seems ''' or """ is valid too
09:36 AM JT-Cave: for strings yes and multi line comments can be wrapped with ''' or """
09:40 AM Tom_L: code is just '\' though?
09:41 AM Tom_L: / or * are comment lines for me
09:41 AM Tom_L: // or * are comment lines for me
09:42 AM Tom_L: // can be at the beginning or end
09:43 AM Tom_L: code // comment
09:47 AM JT-Cave: C comments are /* */
09:47 AM JT-Cave: or //
09:48 AM JT-Cave: python comments use either # at the start of a single line comment or ''' multi line ''' or """ """
09:48 AM JT-Cave: it's brutal outside
09:51 AM Tom_L: i'm not about to find out unless necessary :)
09:51 AM Tom_L: the wind may have died down some which it good
10:46 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Y_NpIVg1Q
12:04 PM JT-Cave: wow wer
12:04 PM JT-Cave: we are up to 10
12:07 PM roycroft: i have a whole city down
12:08 PM roycroft: there is a localized power outage at the fiber hut in that city - the power went down about 5:30 pm yesterday, and the fiber node went down at 4:30 this morning
12:09 PM roycroft: i don't manage the power there any more, but i'm going to guess that the generator never kicked on and the hut ran on batteries until they died
12:09 PM roycroft: i5 is closed between here and there, and i'm not going to drive on the side roads in this weather
12:09 PM roycroft: nobody from the city is responding to my calls
12:10 PM roycroft: so i guess we wait
12:10 PM Roguish: roycroft, sit back and have a warm rum....
12:12 PM Roguish: hey, which IRC client do you guys use?? for windows
12:14 PM bjorkintosh: windows? not even once!
12:19 PM roycroft: yeah, there's absolutely nothing i can do at this point
12:20 PM roycroft: i'm enjoying a cappuccino right now, and i have the heat on in the shop
12:20 PM roycroft: when it warms up a bit i'll head out there and apply some finish
12:20 PM roycroft: i never set up the finishing station in the house, but i brought the parts and the finish in the heated part of the house last night, so they're warm
12:21 PM roycroft: i'll bring them out to the shop, apply the finish, and after i wipe it down i'll bring them back inside to cure
12:22 PM roycroft: we won't be getting above freezing until late tuesday, it appears
12:22 PM roycroft: which would make this the longest period in many years that we stay below freezing
12:24 PM roycroft: and the group of radio stations that went down yesterday are down again this morning
12:29 PM Tom_L: roycroft, hexchat for linux and windows
12:29 PM Tom_L: Roguish, sorry roy
12:49 PM Unterhaus_ is now known as Unterhausen
03:14 PM roycroft: in english
03:14 PM roycroft: pie is pronounced "pee-eh" in latin
03:15 PM roycroft: and italian
03:15 PM CaptHindsight: yeah but there are no more Romans to ask
03:15 PM Tom_L: i'm neither so i'll just say pi
03:15 PM roycroft: there are a lot of italians
03:16 PM CaptHindsight: some say too many, some not enough
03:24 PM roycroft: i'm not saying either
03:32 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> depends what kind of italians and where you live
04:28 PM Unterhausen: looks like there may be a linux driver for my microscope camera. These things are not cheap, they should have a working windows driver
05:15 PM solarwind: Circlip kit arrived
05:16 PM solarwind: in one of those plastic storage boxes that of course got rattled during shipping and mixed up half of the sizes together
05:16 PM solarwind: dropped 2 or 3 on the ground while sorting them out, right next to my chair, can't find where they went lol
05:16 PM solarwind: it's like they just disappear
05:16 PM solarwind: They're so springy that they just bounce somewhere you don't expect, unlike ductile screws which generally stay pretty close to where you drop them
05:52 PM XXCoder: man
05:52 PM XXCoder: I love ninja spin dry machine
06:04 PM Tom_L: like they have at some fitness places pools for your suits
06:05 PM Tom_L: only maybe a bit bigger
06:06 PM XXCoder: yeah
06:06 PM XXCoder: for clothes its pretty good. just need short hang time to dry fully, and its well dry enough to not drip at all
06:07 PM XXCoder: for towels and pillow though it gets them lot drier.
06:07 PM XXCoder: pillow takes forever to dry in dryer
06:07 PM * roycroft uses an electric clothese dryer in the rainy season and line dries in the not-so-rainy season
06:08 PM roycroft: it's up to -3 - i think that's going to be our high for the day
06:09 PM roycroft: and power is back on at the fiber hut, so the city that was totaly down is now just partly down
06:09 PM roycroft: it may be days before power is restored to the neighborhoods that are still down
06:10 PM roycroft: tomorrow is mlk day, so many things were already going to be closed her, but it looks like most of eugene will be shut down tomorrow
06:10 PM roycroft: until this ice goes away travel will be very treacherous, and the ice has not gone away at all
06:11 PM roycroft: the city doesn't have any snow plows - the best it does in this kind of weather is spread sand on the arterials
06:11 PM Tom_L: they use brine on the highways and salt/sand mix on slow roads
06:12 PM Tom_L: but it's clear here now
06:13 PM roycroft: we don't use any salt here
06:13 PM roycroft: i think there are areas near portland where a little salt is used on the freeways
06:13 PM roycroft: but for the most part there's no salt here, which is why our vehicles don't rust out
06:14 PM Tom_L: keeps the car washes in business
06:14 PM roycroft: portland gets washboard ice whenever it snows
06:15 PM roycroft: i wonder what it's like there today
06:15 PM * roycroft checks out some road cams
06:16 PM roycroft: looks like the freeways are pretty clear there
06:20 PM roycroft: but not here - every road that has a working camera in eugene still crunchy
06:22 PM XXCoder: fun
06:22 PM XXCoder: well if you use hangers to dry, id recommand ninja spin dryer
06:22 PM XXCoder: it'll remove most of water, making hanging much shorter
09:41 PM solarwind: Ok so second Milwaukee tool I bought - the M12 high speed ratchet has a shattered internal component in the ratchet head. It's a non-wearing component, something that holds the spring that pushes against the pawl. No reason it should have broken in half. Looks like it's a hardened part for some reason
09:42 PM solarwind: Of course this thing is going to get exchanged for a new one, maybe I just got unlucky during my burn in test
09:42 PM solarwind: burn in test being a few hours of constant torque turning a generator hooked up to a DC electronic load
09:43 PM solarwind: Rest of the ratchet head internals look amazing. That's a LOT of "usage" worth of testing, just having it rotate a load like that. Probably years worth of use for the average home user,
09:44 PM solarwind: Not sure why they hardened this component. It's the thing that rotates the spring to the other direction when you turn the knob to change directions. Worst case, the sleeve that covers the spring rubs against its internal bore slightly, but very little force
09:45 PM solarwind: It just shattered during burn in. They should have gone for a tougher tempering. Looks like a sintered/powder metal part
09:46 PM solarwind: Other components look like they have very little wear which is nice
09:47 PM solarwind: The bushing that rocks the head from side to side to drive the anvil would be under a lot of load and wear, but looks pretty damn good. Modern materials science is amazing
09:49 PM solarwind: But I'm also using some 3% moly grease with some extra pure molybdenum disulfide added in which likely makes quite a bit of difference for shock loads like that
10:12 PM CaptHindsight: https://robotics-transformer-x.github.io/
10:19 PM CaptHindsight: solarwind: lotsa dat krap just gets slightly tested and shoved out to market, real R&D costs too much and takes to long to recover for profit minded co's
10:20 PM CaptHindsight: I'm working with a company that has "progress over perfection" as their motto. You should see the half-assed things they do
10:21 PM CaptHindsight: "if you did it right, you took too long"
10:54 PM solarwind_: CaptHindsight that's why I do my job the american way: really half assed - Homer Simpson
11:03 PM solarwind_: I hate that all the new drills have the shitty electronic clutch
11:03 PM solarwind_ is now known as solarwind
11:03 PM solarwind: Mechanical is hard to beat unless you're very good with R&D which these redneck tool companies are not
11:12 PM CaptHindsight: I can't recall seeing job descriptions that include words like "high reliability", quality, perfection, etc
11:15 PM CaptHindsight: I see words like precision used but they are far from it
11:17 PM CaptHindsight: hah, I was just skimming some postings and saw one for a Scientist that pays $35.01/hour
11:18 PM CaptHindsight: thats what they pay mechanics