#linuxcnc Logs

Oct 01 2023

01:41 AM Deejay: moin
02:09 AM * t4nk_fn amicably stabs _unreal_ through the earlobes a bit, with, well.. with a bit! (a v-bit to be precise)
02:10 AM XXCoder: adding chamfer to ears eh
02:13 AM t4nk_fn: well, _unreal_, been working on my project a bit more, the electronics side is all done and works like a charm, software too
02:16 AM t4nk_fn: I'm still working on some other aspects, but I'm starting to look forward to getting my cnc back up after this
02:16 AM t4nk_fn: and see if I can mill a nice small pcb
02:16 AM t4nk_fn: it'll still be a while before I can get to that though
02:18 AM t4nk_fn: haven't done anything with the cnc shields I have yet.. except making it fit on top of a regular perfboard, because those pins are meant for an arduino orsth, and are out of alignment
02:20 AM t4nk_fn: lol, but a shield would be quite the improvement.. you should see the ball of wires and breadboards it currently is ;)
03:40 AM rigid: have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfSAW3zDQ7M it's an awesome weeny tiny solder bot
03:41 AM rigid: it's the second time I see this kind of kinematics. that should definetly be supported by mainline linuxcnc
03:41 AM rigid: dunno how it's called. the patch to trivkins seems to be trivial: https://youtu.be/rfSAW3zDQ7M?t=2906
04:04 AM travis_farmer: Morning :-)
04:20 AM t4nk_fn: that's a beautiful machine, seems like so much overkill for what it's doing
04:29 AM t4nk_fn: (it didn't seem to do such a nice job btw ;) could use a lot more tweaking)
04:36 AM rigid: yeah, wrong soldertip for a starter. but the general design is nice imo
04:36 AM rigid: thinner solder wire would also help
04:43 AM NoSpark: is the mesa eth driver broken in master atm?
04:47 AM NoSpark: build/linuxcnc/rtlib/hm2_eth.so: undefined symbol: hm2_register
04:48 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:55 AM NoSpark: morning
05:40 AM NoSpark: is it possible to use pyvcp panels with a qtvcp gui like qtdragon?
05:42 AM JT-Cave: no clue
05:48 AM * JT-Cave never could figure out why in the world anyone would want to control a CNC machine with something called qtdragon
05:54 AM Tom_L: morning
06:03 AM Tom_L: JT you get the pc sorted out?
06:12 AM JT-Cave: I put another HD in it and loaded debian 12 I think, just need to create a config for the bp
06:26 AM NoSpark: JT-Cave cause it's so *pretty*
06:27 AM NoSpark: doesn't really matter atm, I somehow managed to releace the magic smoke contained in the control cabinet.... :(
06:57 AM JT-Cave: hmm pytz has been depreciated
07:59 AM JT-Cave: just about got my astral program updated for PyQt6 and Python3 no more pip crap to deal with now
08:54 AM _unreal_: t4nk_fn, you could always look into the wemos d1 r32, OR the new arduino uno r4 minima that uses an ARM cpu. That way you have a drop in for the HAT.
08:55 AM _unreal_: sigh.... I have to pressure wash the drive way
08:55 AM _unreal_: stupid HOA crap
08:55 AM _unreal_: would be so easy if it would just stop raining
08:56 AM _unreal_: with out being able to do a chemical peel on a DRY surface. the white cement driveway hardly cleans
08:56 AM _unreal_: and its impossible to chem peel it if its wet
08:57 AM _unreal_: well time to go make crazy noise for the next 4 hours :(
08:58 AM _unreal_: I wish I could use the ground adapter. but I dont have anything that will connect to it. :(
08:58 AM _unreal_: would be so much faster
09:16 AM bjorkintosh: _unreal_, is it a component you can get from the adapter store?
09:36 AM t4nk_fn: wow, those are really unappealing boards, not to mention 'crazy expensive'
09:37 AM t4nk_fn: but that's probably what arduino stands for, and why I never bought one (except for the one recently for 1euro extra(
09:37 AM t4nk_fn: )
09:38 AM t4nk_fn: I could always mill a new pcb once it's up and running, but I figure hand-soldering will be just fine
09:38 AM t4nk_fn: I'll go with an stm32f411 blackpill
11:04 AM JT-Cave: nap time
11:11 AM travis_farmer: lunch time
11:48 AM Tom_L: branches burned, yard mowed, showered, nap time
12:01 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, PR #30 up
12:01 PM Tom_L: heh same typo too :)
12:02 PM Tom_L: must be that kbd
12:09 PM JT-Shop: lol
12:16 PM Tom_L: ok add build, lunch now nap
12:26 PM JT-Shop: linuxcnc really does some stupid shit, create a report goes to /tmp no user will be able to find that...
12:26 PM Tom_L: it's a rusty bucket full of patches
12:28 PM roycroft: it should at least inform the person where the report goes
12:28 PM roycroft: but better, it should ask the person where they want to save it
12:29 PM JT-Shop: yup the latter would be much better
12:29 PM JT-Shop: if your new to linux and open the file manager you will never find /tmp
01:59 PM solarwind: pcw---home how about documentation?
02:00 PM solarwind: I can't find _anything_ on the site
02:00 PM solarwind: It seems to be scattered all over the place on linuxcnc forums
02:00 PM solarwind: I would expect ever product on the site to have a link to download documentation/schematics/files/whatever
02:16 PM CaptHindsight: they have a doc link at each product page
02:17 PM CaptHindsight: one link is the manual the other link has VHDL and software
02:18 PM CaptHindsight: Download Support Manual, Download Support Software
02:19 PM CaptHindsight: they are one the Specification tab
02:19 PM CaptHindsight: one/on
02:21 PM CaptHindsight: solarwind: http://store.mesanet.com/
02:22 PM CaptHindsight: vs http://mesanet.com/
02:22 PM CaptHindsight: or mesaus.com
02:27 PM JT-Shop: solarwind, if you use mesact you can download documents right from the tool
02:28 PM solarwind: That's so weird, I don't know how I missed that. Thanks, I'll check it out!
02:28 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/mesact/index.html
02:35 PM CaptHindsight: solarwind: here is a Japanese cheesecake recipe https://twoplaidaprons.com/japanese-cotton-cheesecake/
02:39 PM memleak: working on RTAI 5.4.256 and 4.19.294 debian packages now
02:40 PM memleak: with GNU11 math+LinuxCNC floating-point flags
02:43 PM memleak: These are for bookworm btw
02:44 PM memleak: (and rtai-modules package as well)
03:08 PM memleak: that's one
03:08 PM memleak: brb
03:20 PM memleak: 4.19.294 debs done, but still /home/ntu/linuxcnc/src/emc/kinematics/genserfuncs.c:564:1: error: the frame size of 2576 bytes is larger than 2560 bytes [-Werror=frame-larger-than=]
03:27 PM memleak: Debian changelog needs to be updated, these are not the final gnu11 debs, use these just for testing
03:27 PM memleak: https://github.com/NTULINUX/RTAI/releases/tag/v5.3.3-gnu11
03:28 PM memleak: I forgot to update the timer frequency and set IO delay to none as well
03:28 PM memleak: I didn't change the debian changelog file so these are hard to destinguish from: https://github.com/NTULINUX/RTAI/releases/tag/v5.3.3-delta
03:29 PM memleak: It should be like rtai-modules-4.19.294_5.3.3-linuxcnc-gnu11_amd64.deb
03:30 PM memleak: when the next 4.19 and 5.4 kernels come out, I'll fix all the small stuff
03:31 PM memleak: going to work on 5.4.256 now
03:32 PM Tom_L: hope 5.4 is as good as or better than 4.19
03:35 PM memleak: heading out, will work on 5.4 debs when I'm back
03:46 PM Tom_L: memleak,
03:46 PM Tom_L: is 5.4 as good as or better than 4.19?
05:30 PM memleak: I'd say newer is usually better, more fixes and stuff
05:30 PM memleak: Time to knock out 5.4 debs
05:37 PM memleak: For some hardware though, latency can be lower with older kernels.
05:38 PM memleak: Oh, I'm not sure if you're on the forums but my Gentoo PREEMPT_RT installer is done and awaiting testing/feedback
05:38 PM JT-Shop: link?
05:38 PM memleak: All you need is a block device that can be completely used by the installer.
05:38 PM memleak: https://openlunchbox.com/mw19/index.php/HOWTO:_Gentoo_for_LinuxCNC
05:39 PM JT-Shop: what is a block device?
05:39 PM memleak: like a USB flash drive, hard drive, SSD, NVMe or MMC/SDHC
05:39 PM JT-Shop: ok
05:40 PM memleak: Because debian partitions things terribly on install, the installer is meant to just use the whole disk.
05:40 PM memleak: Even if you do a manual expert install, I've seen it do really weird things to the table.
05:40 PM JT-Shop: I have a bunch of SSD's I use for testintg
05:40 PM JT-Shop: testing even
05:40 PM memleak: Perfect!
05:40 PM memleak: Yeah it supports BTRFS, EXT4, F2FS and XFS
05:41 PM memleak: for SSDs, F2FS might be the fastest
05:42 PM memleak: all display power management/power savings is forcibly disabled by default as well. it ships with XFCE and LXQt
05:43 PM JT-Shop: has lxqt gotten any better than a few years ago?
05:43 PM memleak: Oh yes!
05:43 PM memleak: it looks a lot better too :)
05:44 PM JT-Shop: it was pretty rough last time I looked
05:44 PM memleak: Well luckily you can try LXQt on Gentoo with ease now!
05:44 PM JT-Shop: awesome
05:45 PM memleak: If you run into any issues let me know, it hasn't been extensively tested and I wrote that installer from scratch.
05:45 PM memleak: its about 1400 lines.
05:45 PM JT-Shop: ok, I do my testing early in the morning central time
05:46 PM JT-Shop: what time zone are you in?
05:46 PM CaptHindsight: same
05:46 PM CaptHindsight: let me know
05:46 PM memleak: I'm usually asleep then but CaptHindsight usually idles in the channel.
05:46 PM memleak: I can check the logs and he can bring me up to speed.
05:49 PM memleak: One thing I want to try and get going with the image are the requirements for camview
05:49 PM memleak: It might work, it might not. Absolutely no idea but qtpyvcp should be easy to setup with no hassle.
05:50 PM JT-Shop: I'm looking at making a pyqt6 control panel
05:50 PM JT-Shop: just to get a jump on the update race lol
05:50 PM memleak: heh, qt6 is being worked on in gentoo but it's not stable yet
05:51 PM memleak: A lot of packages still require Qt5
05:53 PM memleak: 5.4.256 debs done, now to build rtai-modules package, brb
05:53 PM JT-Shop: time for me to call it a night
06:07 PM memleak: Oh man, I think my GNU11 changes to RTAI seriously mucked things up.
06:07 PM memleak: I'll try and figure this out but I need a break.
06:07 PM memleak: Not today, too tired for this.
06:09 PM memleak: andypugh, I will look into the trig blow up eventually.
06:09 PM memleak: take care everyone!
07:15 PM Unterhaus_ is now known as Unterhausen