#linuxcnc Logs
Aug 30 2023
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:50 AM serp5 is now known as serp
01:24 AM Deejay: moin
03:12 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:32 AM travis_farmer: Morning :-)
04:37 AM JT-Cave: morning
06:09 AM Tom_L: 68°F
06:22 AM JT-Cave: 64°F
06:25 AM Tom_L: at least it cooled down when your AC decided to poop out
06:26 AM JT-Cave: yup
06:26 AM JT-Cave: rooster just crowed
06:41 AM travis_farmer: 64F
06:47 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, can you convert a drawing to a sketch?
06:49 AM Tom_L: mmm, maybe this is a sketch.. it just came in odd
06:51 AM travis_farmer: anybody here from florida? in the path of the storm?
06:52 AM JT-Cave: in what?
06:52 AM Tom_L: old sw
06:53 AM Tom_L: i think i figured it out
06:54 AM JT-Cave: I 'think' you can
06:57 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/pointer/pointer.jpg
06:57 AM Tom_L: so if you were to machine one say from brass how would you hold it?
06:57 AM Tom_L: 1/64" wide
06:57 AM travis_farmer: tabs?
06:58 AM JT-Cave: 1/64" thick?
06:58 AM Tom_L: width
06:58 AM JT-Cave: wide part or narrow part?
06:58 AM Tom_L: think clock parts or meter
06:58 AM Tom_L: narrow stem is 1/64"
06:59 AM JT-Cave: maybe hot glue or double stick tape
06:59 AM Tom_L: just out for discussion.. i think i know how i'd hold it
06:59 AM JT-Cave: if you can dissolve the tape with something that would work
06:59 AM Tom_L: not sure tape would hold something that narrow
07:00 AM travis_farmer: what about machining in holding tabs?
07:00 AM Tom_L: that would take half the part and you'd still have to remove them
07:02 AM Tom_L: he's making one from an old cd
07:02 AM Tom_L: i suggested brass
07:09 AM travis_farmer: looks like something that needs a high powered laser cutter...
07:11 AM Tom_L: just a morning puzzle
07:13 AM travis_farmer: what about machining down to a thin foil, and use a laser to remove the foil? ;-)
07:16 AM travis_farmer: not coming from a machinist background, you can count on me to come up with wildly bad ideas ;-)
07:17 AM nospark: Tom_L> so if you were to machine one say from brass how would you hold it? -- I would recommend super glue to hold brass sheet
07:18 AM nospark: travis_farmer, you could paint the shape you want to keep, and disolve the rest in acid :)
07:18 AM travis_farmer: very true
07:24 AM nospark: I've converted that image btw
07:24 AM nospark: Just trying to figure out how to send it to you, I assume you don't have DCC?
07:26 AM Tom_L: i already have the dxf
07:27 AM Tom_L: i just posted it to spark a discussion
07:27 AM nospark: ahhh
07:28 AM Tom_L: gotta run
07:49 AM rue_mohr: :)
08:09 AM bjorkint0sh: JT-Shop__, is this your project? https://github.com/ESP32-COOP/ESP32-COOP-DOC
08:24 AM skunkworks: Tom_L: wire edm
08:34 AM JT-Shop__: bjorkint0sh, nope
08:36 AM travis_farmer: there, just listed my older Dell PowerEdge R710 server to FB Marketplace :-)
08:40 AM rue_mohr: skunkworks, on a cd? polycarbonate?
08:40 AM rue_mohr: go go friction mode...
08:40 AM skunkworks: I thought we were talking brass
08:43 AM skunkworks: r710.. Still have one running one
08:43 AM skunkworks: one running one? ugh
08:43 AM rue_mohr: I want to cut it out of a CD
08:43 AM travis_farmer: yes, it runs fine
08:44 AM skunkworks: ah
08:44 AM rue_mohr: brass would be an I'v failed fallback
08:45 AM skunkworks: Hmm.. I don't kno
08:45 AM skunkworks: know
08:45 AM skunkworks: maybe try tape and super glue?
08:46 AM skunkworks: have to create the tool path so that the largest part is cut last.
08:49 AM skunkworks: I take that back - they are R720's - 3 of them are still in service
08:50 AM travis_farmer: i have a R720 too, but i am using it
09:05 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
09:18 AM Unterhaus_: is there really any problem installing lcnc using apt from debian? I know it's a stale version
09:19 AM Unterhaus_ is now known as Unterhausen
09:20 AM perry_j1987: morning
09:40 AM skunkworks: Unterhausen: I just did it and using it on my lathe experiement. I think there is a pretty big bug in it. Let me look - something to do with mdi..
09:41 AM Unterhausen: I saw some talk of updating the debian version, but I'm not sure anyone is really working on it
09:41 AM skunkworks: andy said it was 'hard'
09:42 AM skunkworks: it is pretty awesome - once the proccess is figure out.. apt-get installing linuxcnc will be really nice.
09:43 AM skunkworks: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2587
09:43 AM skunkworks: andy thought that bug was in it
09:51 AM Unterhausen: I just recommended someone on fb do that. The ISO doesn't work on their system
09:51 AM travis_farmer: hmmm, i wonder if my machine with stock Debian 12 linuxcnc deb has that bug.... will have to test at some point..
09:53 AM Scopeuk: debian releases are glacial, to get it into a release you need to be in testing 6 months ahead and unstable ahead of that
09:54 AM travis_farmer: hmmm, may be worth building linuxcnc from source on my machine...
09:57 AM Scopeuk: the other options if someone wants to be maintainer is to run a project apt repository with the deb packaged for an "up to date" release version
09:57 AM Scopeuk: apt just works over https so it's nothing "magic"
09:58 AM travis_farmer: i could do that, but keeping the debs up to date would be a PITA
10:17 AM * roycroft wonders what the point would be to keeping linuxcnc so current if one is not a developer
10:18 AM travis_farmer: ...listening
10:20 AM Unterhausen: there are various parts of lcnc that are in flux right now, and new users always seem to find those
10:20 AM Unterhausen: not sure how the mdi bug got in there though, seems very strange
10:21 AM Scopeuk: generally I would expect a project apt repo to only build named/numbered releases
10:21 AM Scopeuk: so 2.8.4 would be the latest
10:21 AM Scopeuk: maybe with "testing" nightlys if you want to run a parrallel repo
10:21 AM Unterhausen: I thought the debian version was newer than that, but I can't keep track
10:21 AM Scopeuk: and all of that would need automation
10:22 AM Unterhausen: the problem with 2.8 is it's pre python 3
10:23 AM Unterhausen: then new users find out about probe basic and it's all out the window
10:23 AM Scopeuk: looks like debian 12 is 2.9
10:23 AM Scopeuk: https://packages.debian.org/source/bookworm/linuxcnc
10:24 AM Unterhausen: that's what I remembered
10:34 AM CaptHindsight: Scopeuk: debian 12 is LCNC 2.9 , I believe that is the first LCNC release through Debian and has been in the repos for over 6 months
10:45 AM Scopeuk: yeh we confirmed that above, weird for debian to be ahead of the latest release on the website. did they mandate python 3?
10:46 AM roycroft: there is no python 2 package available for debian 12
10:46 AM Scopeuk: fair enough
10:46 AM bjorkint0sh: what depends on python2?
10:46 AM roycroft: so a linuxcnc release that requires python 2 would have to install python 2 as part of the .deb
10:48 AM travis_farmer: is it a bad thing when my truck says "Add Engine Oil"? ;-) i am due for an oil change in a little while anyway... won't hurt to get it done a little early.
10:50 AM Scopeuk: travis_farmer but you have two bottles in the boot?
10:50 AM travis_farmer: nope
10:51 AM CaptHindsight: bjorkint0sh: LCNC 2.8 and earlier relied on Python 2
10:51 AM travis_farmer: this truck is odd, the oil level stays fine, and then on the last bit of the oil-change due cycle, it uses oil somewhere
10:52 AM CaptHindsight: it took LCNC a few extra years to catch up to Python 3
10:56 AM roycroft: hopefully your truck doesn't take 15 quarts of oil like mine does
10:56 AM roycroft: oil changes are expensive
10:56 AM travis_farmer: nah, '07 5.3L GM
10:57 AM CaptHindsight: does the engine leak oil?
10:58 AM travis_farmer: hard to tell, the frame is fluid-filmed for rust protection
10:58 AM roycroft: i'm supposed to change the oil every 5000 miles, but i don't drive the pickup that often
10:58 AM roycroft: i'm thinking i should do it at lease annually, regardless of how many miles i put on it
10:59 AM roycroft: at least, rather
10:59 AM CaptHindsight: generally there is an oil level sensor in the oil pan, it is ON/OFF so with all the sloshing it just detects how often it's high vs low
10:59 AM * roycroft checks the dip stick periodically
11:00 AM roycroft: i never let my vehicles get to the point that the oil light comes on, other than when first turning on the ignition switch
11:01 AM travis_farmer: the level is low, so the oil gets used somewhere, and in a hurry. as like roycroft, i check periodically. like i said, the level is fine, but then all of the sudden it isn't
11:01 AM CaptHindsight: what would actually be helpful is a oil pressure kill switch that shuts the engine off if the pressure drops too low for over a second or two while driving
11:02 AM travis_farmer: trye
11:02 AM travis_farmer: *true
11:02 AM roycroft: that's very odd, travis_farmer
11:02 AM roycroft: and i wonder if it's a sensor issue
11:02 AM travis_farmer: yes it is, the dealership has found no cause
11:02 AM CaptHindsight: but this would prolong the life of an engine vs provide the stealership with extra profits
11:03 AM roycroft: do you check the dip stick when the oil light comes on?
11:03 AM travis_farmer: yes, it is low. at or below the tip
11:03 AM skunkworks: get a longer dip stick
11:04 AM travis_farmer: i am thinking a front or rear main seal. climb a steep hill, and it dumps oil out..
11:04 AM roycroft: that should be fairly obvious
11:05 AM travis_farmer: true, but i am just throwing ideas out there...
11:05 AM roycroft: if a main seal is blown to the point that it dumps that much that quickly, 1. you should be able to see the damage to the seal itself, and 2. there should be a lot of evidence of a big oil dump at the seal
11:06 AM travis_farmer: i will have the oil-change guy look this afternoon. it is pouring rain, so i won't be climbing under today ;-)
11:06 AM skunkworks: I have to change the oil in the vw
11:07 AM travis_farmer: gotta run... time for a shower, then an oil-change...
11:07 AM CaptHindsight: travis_farmer: how many miles on your beast?
11:07 AM travis_farmer: over 200K
11:08 AM CaptHindsight: probably valve seals or rings
11:08 AM roycroft: but why would it lose a lot of oil suddenly like that?
11:08 AM CaptHindsight: unless you have puddles
11:08 AM travis_farmer: ... back in a while
11:08 AM roycroft: if it were valve seals or rings it should steadily lose oil
11:08 AM CaptHindsight: lack of awareness
11:08 AM roycroft: and there would be evidence in the exhaust
11:09 AM CaptHindsight: or magic
11:14 AM Tom_L: valve seals will puff smoke when you start
11:14 AM Tom_L: rings will do it continually
11:14 AM Tom_L: especially if one is broke
11:16 AM CaptHindsight: if they leak a lot
11:17 AM CaptHindsight: my money is on an oil gremlin
11:17 AM Tom_L: service records could tell a wear story
11:17 AM CaptHindsight: they sneak in at night and drink oil
11:28 AM JT-Shop: nap time
12:17 PM travis_farmer: back... oil-change guy had no remarks as to any cause. i may have to put it up on ramps and crawl under some day when i feel like getting oily. no puddles in my parking spot, Capt. no oil smell to my exhaust, roycroft. drain plug was still tight, as was the oil filter. so at this time, cause is still unknown
01:21 PM Unterhausen: I wanted a new resaw blade, but highland woodworking's site is broken
01:21 PM roycroft: yes, it has been since midnight on the 30th
01:21 PM roycroft: because their certificate expired
01:22 PM JT-Shop: is it midnight somewhere?
01:22 PM roycroft: actully, since the 28th
01:22 PM Unterhausen: chrome can't just tell you it's the certificate?
01:22 PM Unterhausen: that's a long time to have a stale certificate
01:22 PM roycroft: midnight utc
01:22 PM roycroft: not midnight edt
01:22 PM roycroft: so even longer :)
01:23 PM roycroft: and yes, it's a very long time for that
01:23 PM Unterhausen: maybe they outsourced their it to a mcdonalds
01:23 PM roycroft: i was going to order from them couple days ago but could not
01:23 PM roycroft: it's a network solutions certificate
01:23 PM JT-Shop: in ff you can just accept the risk and march on
01:23 PM roycroft: so whoever is managing it is not very savvy
01:23 PM Unterhausen: phone call maybe?
01:24 PM roycroft: i don't have their number handy
01:24 PM roycroft: oh, wait, my search engine does
01:24 PM * roycroft does them a favor
01:25 PM Unterhausen: chrome used to let you bypass a bad certificate, but they have made it increasingly difficult
01:26 PM Unterhausen: I just messaged them on facebook 1-800-241-6748
01:26 PM roycroft: i just called them
01:26 PM roycroft: "we are aware of this, and our top-notch it people are working hard to fix it"
01:27 PM roycroft: i told them that 1. it should never expired and 2. even if it does, it takes 5 minutes at most to fix
01:27 PM roycroft: they told me they sumbitted the paperwork two weeks ago and their it people have not come up with a solution yet
01:27 PM CaptHindsight: all top-notch people are not the same
01:27 PM roycroft: i told them they need to get new it people
01:28 PM Unterhausen: raise their notch a little
01:28 PM * roycroft remembers the time that microsoft forgot to renew microsoft.com, and the domain expired
01:29 PM roycroft: for the first time ever there was an unscheduled reload of the top level .com nameserver
01:29 PM Unterhausen: did that cause a lot of problems?
01:29 PM roycroft: that actually was kind of a blessing, because after that incident they started rolling reloads instead of daily reloads
01:29 PM Unterhausen: other than at microsoft
01:29 PM roycroft: it causes a lot of problems for microsoft, since nobody in the universe could reach them
01:30 PM Unterhausen: that's just amusing, for the most part
01:30 PM roycroft: it kind of stuffed up the internet that day, but not too badly
01:30 PM roycroft: just excessive dns queries
01:30 PM CaptHindsight: travis_farmer: no visible leak sounds like invisible leak or slow burn
01:30 PM roycroft: excessive to the point that it was slowing down the internet
01:31 PM roycroft: do you have an oil pressure gauge?
01:31 PM roycroft: i wonder if there's a problem with the oil pump
01:31 PM roycroft: a sporadic problem
01:32 PM roycroft: or maybe a partially clogged oil passageway where the oil can only flow when it's really thin (hot)
01:32 PM roycroft: either of those would be very bad thigns
01:32 PM roycroft: i'd try to get to the source of the problem soon, before the engine blows up
01:33 PM roycroft: is there an oil filter bypass?
01:33 PM travis_farmer: no idea if there is a filter bypass
01:34 PM travis_farmer: the oil pressure on meter is 40+ running down the road
01:34 PM roycroft: it's a common thing, so that if the oil filter clogs at least you still have oil flow, albeit potentially dirty oil flow
01:36 PM travis_farmer: i wonder if it has an oil cooler that leaks...
01:36 PM roycroft: maybe you're using cheap oil filter without a bypass
01:36 PM roycroft: you say that this happens shortly before an oil change is due
01:36 PM travis_farmer: yes
01:36 PM roycroft: it could be that the filter gets clogged, dosn't have a bypass, and restricts oil flow because it's getting clogged
01:37 PM travis_farmer: but pressure stays good
01:38 PM travis_farmer: and pressure rises and falls with rpm
01:40 PM roycroft: that sounds like normal behavior
01:41 PM roycroft: what you're describing doesn't make any sense to me
01:41 PM roycroft: and my brain hurts way too much these days already, so i'm going to have to choose to not think about your oil pressure problem any more
01:41 PM travis_farmer: now you know why the dealership is baffled
01:42 PM roycroft: they're not baffled - they're seeing the problem as a recurring billing opportunity
01:42 PM travis_farmer: likely...
01:42 PM roycroft: i'm assuming the vehicle is not under warranty
01:42 PM travis_farmer: no
01:43 PM roycroft: "oh, that thing - we can get at least 5-6 service calls out of it before we fix it"
01:44 PM travis_farmer: hmmm, time to involve a different mechanic, if i can't find anything looking under it...
01:44 PM roycroft: uh oh - mitch mcconnell froze up again
01:44 PM roycroft: i think his days as a senator are quite numbered
01:44 PM travis_farmer: oh dear
01:44 PM roycroft: and yes, time to find a different mechanic
01:45 PM roycroft: and before someone says something, diane feinstein should retire, too
01:50 PM CaptHindsight: feats of strength every year after age 65
01:51 PM roycroft: i'm just concerned for the party that continues to call itself "republican"
01:51 PM CaptHindsight: something like carry all the transmission parts from basement to attic and reassemble
01:51 PM roycroft: when mcconnell is gone they'll choose a leader who is an extreme wingnut, like josh hawley
01:52 PM CaptHindsight: if you're 90 and can still do it i have no problems with age
01:52 PM roycroft: while mcconnell is a wingnut he still believes in the institution
01:52 PM roycroft: nor i
01:52 PM roycroft: feinstein clearly cannot any more
01:52 PM roycroft: and this is the second time in a month that mcconnell has frozen up
01:53 PM roycroft: he may not have recovered fully from his concussion
01:53 PM roycroft: and may never
01:53 PM CaptHindsight: unfortunately we are living through the assault on democracy here, it should be over in 20 or so years
01:53 PM roycroft: i don't believe in term limits or age limits
01:54 PM CaptHindsight: no fun when you're living through it but a blip in the history books
01:54 PM roycroft: i believe in moving past tribal partisanship and voting for people who want the best for the country, not the best for the party
01:54 PM roycroft: i don't believe that's likely to start happening any time soon, but it's what i believe is right
01:55 PM * roycroft mostly believes that it's lunch time
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: already after lunch here
01:59 PM travis_farmer: well after lunch here :-)
01:59 PM JT-Shop: no lunch on wednesdays here
01:59 PM travis_farmer: :-(
02:56 PM * JT-Shop found a box of partially assembled 3.7DIN and finishing them up
03:09 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:37 PM Tom_L: roycroft, when you were looking at vcarve, did you see microcarve?
03:37 PM Tom_L: not sure what it exports or if it does..
03:37 PM roycroft: no
03:37 PM Tom_L: i just noticed i had a copy on my pc
03:38 PM roycroft: microcarve looks like it does something completely different
03:38 PM Tom_L: ok
03:38 PM roycroft: it converts raster images into toolpaths
03:38 PM Tom_L: more for images
03:38 PM roycroft: vcarve is cad/cam software
03:56 PM * t4nk_freenode smacks Tom_L around in a tremendous fashion with a large 0603 resistor
03:57 PM * travis_farmer watches in awe :-o
04:12 PM Unterhausen: highland hardware's answer didn't really sound credible
04:14 PM Unterhausen: is it worth going through warranty for a $25 door handle?
04:19 PM roycroft: actually their response was pretty much what i expected it to be
04:19 PM roycroft: "we have no idea how this works but our it folks told us it was hard and we choose to believe them because we're so clueless about that stuff"
04:20 PM roycroft: coupled with "computer stuff is magic. we pay our it people a lot of money, so they must know how to make the magic work"
04:22 PM CaptHindsight: roycroft: it was a likely firmware update when McConnell froze for a bit
04:24 PM roycroft: firmware? at 81 i suspect his brain is getting rather more squishy, not more firm
04:24 PM CaptHindsight: software update?
04:24 PM CaptHindsight: squishware
04:29 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:01 PM Unterhausen: I had a prius that would do that, at least the entertainment display. Always at the same rest area in Virginia.
05:01 PM Unterhausen: wonder how many times McConnell is locking up per day
05:02 PM XXCoder: meh just need some anti-seizure oil so can run smoothly
05:03 PM rigid_: are there any future plans to decouple GUIs so they don't need to run on the realtime host? (e.g. some dummy-display API that proxies the DISPLAY API over a network socket... or something similar)
05:04 PM XXCoder: dunno
05:04 PM rigid_: or merge stuff from machinekit et al.
05:04 PM XXCoder: when jogging, you want display to be as current as possible
05:06 PM rigid_: XXCoder: but no one needs ns-latency level. it's just a few integers going over a GBit link. That's a few ms.
05:06 PM XXCoder: thats true, if it has something to ensure such
05:06 PM rigid_: hardly makes a difference for the user, even on slowish wifi links
05:06 PM CaptHindsight: rigid_: if you have the time to do it, or wait for https://github.com/auto-mation-assist/LinuxCnc-OpenDDS-Work
05:06 PM rigid_: ...other than remote desktop via ssh
05:07 PM CaptHindsight: we could also use a volunteer to merge the Tormach trajectory planner into LCNC
05:07 PM CaptHindsight: tormach trajectory planner
05:07 PM rigid_: CaptHindsight: that looks like very high complexity. much more than a dummy UI that serves as proxy
05:09 PM CaptHindsight: everybody just wants a dummy
05:10 PM Unterhausen: the gui has been run on a separate computer. I recall some difficulty with 2.9 though
05:10 PM Unterhausen: and not just the fact that the message is huge, which is also a problem
05:10 PM rigid_: it's the most pragmatic solution I can think of, instead running Qt/Tcl etc., you just provide a socket that sends/receives a few numbers per second. On the other hand, linuxcnc provides glue between UIs and the socket.
05:11 PM rigid_: Unterhausen: yeah, I saw some linuxcncsrv process and wondered if it's not already in there. didn't check the code, yet :)
05:11 PM Unterhausen: it has been done and people are trying it all the time
05:11 PM rigid_: but maybe it was remote desktop via ssh. that's not even close when it comes to unnecessary system load
05:11 PM Unterhausen: it's been so long since I looked at it that I don't recall how you would do it
05:11 PM Unterhausen: no, people have actually split lcnc
05:12 PM rigid_: without forking?
05:12 PM Unterhausen: you have to send the nml message, which is now quite large
05:12 PM Unterhausen: I believe a fork isn't required
05:12 PM Unterhausen: but the machinekit fork was due to this issue, mostly
05:12 PM rigid_: yeah, nml via UDP (or compressed TCP even) would be exactly what's needed
05:13 PM rigid_: hm
05:13 PM rigid_: how big is "quite large"? I can't imagine it being significant for modern networking
05:13 PM Unterhausen: nml is deeply embedded into lcnc, it's a pain to replace. Machinekit couldn't get it done
05:14 PM Unterhausen: most recent person to try this complained about network latency due to the size of it
05:14 PM Unterhausen: I suspect most of the traffic about this has been on the developer's list, if you want to search
05:15 PM Unterhausen: CaptHindsight, is the trajectory planner code available?
05:15 PM CaptHindsight: Unterhausen: yes but....
05:16 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/pointer/Pointer_2nd_try.jpg
05:16 PM Tom_L: this morning's puzzle
05:16 PM CaptHindsight: it's written in a way that drops into Tormachs fork of LCNC but will require some work to bring it back to our master branch
05:16 PM Tom_L: the cd delaminated
05:16 PM Tom_L: so i got 2 for one
05:17 PM JT-Shop: itty bitty
05:17 PM Unterhausen: Cap'n, does someone we know have the code?
05:18 PM Tom_L: i should change the lead in move but this was just a 'see if i can' thing. he's gonna make his own
05:19 PM JT-Shop: how did you end up holding it?
05:19 PM Unterhausen: there was some traffic on the developer's list on oct 24 2020 about the size of the nml buffer from someone that was trying to split lcnc across 2 computers
05:19 PM Tom_L: oh.. hang on
05:20 PM Unterhausen: also the developer's list says splitting is currently broken according to what I saw on the list
05:20 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/pointer/Pointer_fixture.jpg
05:21 PM Tom_L: cut the bottom half first with the hole & end
05:21 PM Tom_L: then added that clamp
05:21 PM rigid_: there are a gazillion threads about NML and remote GUIs :)
05:22 PM Unterhausen: where?
05:22 PM rigid_: on the emc-developers mailing list
05:22 PM Tom_L: added a couple op stops in case i had to clear the bit from plastic but it did ok
05:22 PM XXCoder: Tom_L: laser machine cut?
05:23 PM Tom_L: mill
05:23 PM XXCoder: nice
05:23 PM JT-Shop: low 55°F tonight
05:24 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/pointer/Pointer.mp4
05:24 PM Tom_L: i ended up cutting the hole first
05:24 PM Tom_L: i was lazy on the lead in move
05:25 PM CaptHindsight: Unterhausen: check the Tormach Pathpilot source
05:28 PM CaptHindsight: https://forums.tormach.com/t/repository-for-pathpilot-code/341
05:28 PM CaptHindsight: Unterhausen: ^^
05:28 PM CaptHindsight: We don’t have the source code for the PathPilot CNC application on Github. We use a different system that better integrates with an automated build test sytem, issue tracker, project management, our internal wiki, and the customer-facing knowledge base.
05:29 PM CaptHindsight: @Mike_Kinney No, we don’t have a public link to those repositories.
05:29 PM CaptHindsight: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/pathpilot/45286-pathpilot-v2-source-code
05:30 PM rigid_: ha: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/libnml/cms/tcp_srv.cc
05:31 PM rigid_: there it is
05:44 PM rigid_: hm, it seems the functionality is already in "linuxcncsvr -host" and "linuxcncsvr -queryhost"
05:49 PM rigid_: this change is just 18 years old https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/emc/nml_intf/emcargs.cc#L86 :)
05:55 PM t4nk_freenode: hehe Tom_L, so you're also dabbling in the small now ;)
05:55 PM t4nk_freenode: I've had some nice results milling .5mm pitch pcbs with my diy mill
05:56 PM t4nk_freenode: now I built a new machine, not calibrated yet, but I'll be going for .4mm pitch next
05:57 PM t4nk_freenode: also been thinking about buying some parts to build a bit better of a machine, like ball screws and such, and maybe some actual extrusion instead of messing around with square pipes
05:58 PM Unterhausen: CaptHindsight, so someone named "automation" has the code
05:58 PM t4nk_freenode: mmm in fact I haven't done anything about the machine since I last mentioned it
05:58 PM t4nk_freenode: *sigh* been working on another daunting project, but I want to pick up where I left off soon
05:59 PM t4nk_freenode: if anyone has a few tips on some frame kits orsth to look for?
05:59 PM t4nk_freenode: but no pouring of cement, CaptHindsight ;)
06:01 PM t4nk_freenode: I tore down my first machine to build the second.. but in 'hindsight', that first one wasn't half bad
06:01 PM t4nk_freenode: bit of a shame
07:01 PM rigid_: is that NML? -> "tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5005 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 61030/linuxcncsvr"
09:27 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1290287.jpg
09:27 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1290288.jpg
09:27 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1290290.jpg
09:27 PM rue_mohr: I got it!
09:28 PM XXCoder: interesting
09:28 PM roycroft: nice job
09:28 PM XXCoder: indeed
10:15 PM roycroft: it is going to rain tonight or early tomorrow morning
10:15 PM XXCoder: its been predicting rain here for days but no rain
10:16 PM roycroft: i can smell it
10:16 PM roycroft: it's going to happen
10:16 PM XXCoder: cool. not something I can do lol
10:16 PM roycroft: how much, i don't know - we're only forcast to get a few mm
10:16 PM roycroft: but it is coming
10:17 PM XXCoder: I know its hard to explain it, but what do you get when you smell rain coming?
10:17 PM XXCoder: without analogs to other smells
10:17 PM roycroft: it is hard to explain
10:18 PM roycroft: i can detect moisture in the air, of course
10:18 PM roycroft: but beyond that there's a faint scent that i can't really compare to anything else but tells me it's going to rain
10:19 PM XXCoder: cool :)
10:19 PM roycroft: but i'm pretty certain that it's the heavier, moisture-laden air that is the biggest clue
10:20 PM XXCoder: I can feel high humidity, not too hard, expecially when I can detect difference between my room and rest of house
10:20 PM roycroft: originally we were forecast to get a few mm tomorrow, and then the sun would come back
10:20 PM roycroft: but now it calls for rain tomorrow and friday, and a slight chance of thunderstorms on saturday
11:08 PM roycroft: xxcoder: the radar shows rain over shelton now, heading southeast
11:11 PM roycroft: it's still well off the coast down here, though
11:11 PM XXCoder: in least some air around there is being cleaned
11:12 PM roycroft: 5am around here is when it's now due to start