#linuxcnc Logs
May 21 2023
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:33 AM Deejay: moin
04:53 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:05 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:07 AM JT-Cave: 52°F
05:09 AM Tom_L: about the same here
05:20 AM JT-Cave: going to attempt to burn some rotten wood and limbs this morning
05:41 AM JT-Cave: geez libre calc and I can't figure out how to just copy the value from one cell to another with a function
05:41 AM XXCoder: it should be simply cell name reference
05:41 AM XXCoder: like k12
05:41 AM JT-Cave: it should be but I get Err:522
05:42 AM XXCoder: “Circular reference”
05:42 AM JT-Cave: hmm I might know why
05:42 AM XXCoder: basically it refers to calculated value that uses itself as reference
05:43 AM XXCoder: interesting https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/error-522-despite-formula-is-correct/51222
05:45 AM JT-Cave: rooster just crowed, time to let the hens out
09:02 AM mits5782[m]: How do I figure out in the source code if the loadrt option 'names=' is supported in a thing? simple_tp in particular
09:03 AM mits5782[m]: it's not documented how to instantiate multiple instances
09:03 AM mits5782[m]: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/simple_tp.9.html
09:07 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: loadrt simple_tp count=n ?
09:08 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Then each would be accessed as simple_tp.n.pinname
09:08 AM mits5782[m]: I'm not seeing "count" in the source so I'm not sure
09:09 AM JT-Cave: test in a terminal
09:09 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: It won't be in the simple_tp code.
09:10 AM mits5782[m]: oh, is it a fundamental supplied by the upper layer?
09:10 AM mits5782[m]: ok
09:10 AM mits5782[m]: probably comp then, I guess
09:10 AM JT-Cave: loadrt simple_tp names=fred works for me
09:10 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Same with the name= functionality
09:10 AM JT-Cave: Owner Type Dir Value Name
09:10 AM JT-Cave: 12 bit OUT FALSE fred.active
09:10 AM JT-Cave: 12 float OUT 0 fred.current-pos
09:10 AM JT-Cave: 12 float OUT 0 fred.current-vel
09:10 AM JT-Cave: 12 bit IN FALSE fred.enable
09:10 AM mits5782[m]: though weirdly with pid it is 'num_chans' so maybe that's an old code path
09:10 AM JT-Cave: 12 float IN 0 fred.maxaccel
09:10 AM JT-Cave: 12 float IN 0 fred.maxvel
09:11 AM JT-Cave: 12 float IN 0 fred.target-pos
09:11 AM JT-Cave: 12 s32 OUT 0 fred.update.time
09:11 AM mits5782[m]: @JT-Cave I'm not really asking to test it... I'm asking how it's done in the source
09:11 AM JT-Cave: num_chans is different than loading multiple copies
09:11 AM mits5782[m]: but thank you regardless
09:11 AM JT-Cave: if you don't declare it as a singleton it's there
09:11 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: pid is a bit of a special case. You can create a comp that is lower level but that is more difficult.
09:12 AM mits5782[m]: is it? the docs say it's mutually exclusive with 'names'
09:12 AM mits5782[m]: ZincBoy[CA, ON] (@_discord_554508768402997249:jauriarts.org) I'll peek at the source to pid as well then to understand why
09:12 AM mits5782[m]: thanks
09:33 AM JT-Woodshop: yippee the dehumidifier pump is working
10:19 AM roycroft: i'll be moving dirt much of the day
10:19 AM roycroft: and a little painting
10:23 AM JT-Shop: dirty painting
10:30 AM roycroft: i should probably do the painting before the dirt moving
11:34 AM Unterhaus_ is now known as Unterhausen
11:34 AM Unterhausen: I wish it was easier for me to buy dirt, I always end up making it.
11:35 AM Unterhausen: this year I bought fake peat moss. They won't say what it's made out of, probably industrial waste
11:50 AM roycroft: unterhausen: https://laneforest.com/planting-and-potting-soils/
11:50 AM roycroft: it's pretty easy for me - lane forest products are 5 minutes from my house
11:56 AM JT-Shop: nap time
11:58 AM Tom_L: done that
12:48 PM Unterhausen: I guess I'm going to plant tomatoes today, they are getting tired of being inside.
12:48 PM Unterhausen: 10 day forecast is good, may 20 is historically the last day it freezes here.
12:51 PM perry_j1987: so im looking at this vfd here. went through the settings and it looks right. i tell it to go to 12,000 rpm and it should be 200hz but the screen shows 170's
12:51 PM perry_j1987: tell it to go to 24000 rpm and its 367hz
12:51 PM perry_j1987: not 400
12:51 PM perry_j1987: check voltage and its 10v on the nose
12:52 PM perry_j1987: settings on the vfd shows 10v for the max so that should be 100% what else can i look at to get this thing spinning up right
12:56 PM Unterhausen: we got a special memorial day celebration going on and they are firing a cannon.
01:35 PM Chester[m]: Are we just watching bots have conversations with themselves in here?
01:36 PM mits5782[m]: Anybody know if it's possible on a mesa card to "steal back" a pin from PWM or stepper to use as a GPIO instead?
01:38 PM Chester[m]: Maybe with custom firmware on the MESA? I'm not sure.. trying to use Ethercat myself
01:43 PM Chester[m]: Okay I went and read back the Meta channel in Discord here and understand its a bridge bot to IRC.. would be good to have that in the rules you agree to so its less confusing to new members
01:43 PM Tom_L: mits5782[m], if it's not being used generally speaking it can be used for GPIO
01:44 PM mits5782[m]: well one side of it is being used, that's where I'm not sure
01:44 PM mits5782[m]: like with PWM you have a DIR pin
01:44 PM mits5782[m]: but if I'm not using the DIR pin.... I'd like to use it for GPIO
01:44 PM mits5782[m]: but I don't think I can
01:45 PM Tom_L: simmer down Chester[m], we're not all bots here :)
01:45 PM mits5782[m]: I'm a bot
01:45 PM Tom_L: ok
01:45 PM Chester[m]: Yeah lol I figured that out! was super confused for a bit though 😆
01:46 PM Chester[m]: I thought the AI was getting better.. 😛
01:46 PM travis_farmer[m]: i don't know... am i a bot??? i am so confused these days ;-)
01:47 PM Tom_L: mits5782[m], you could ask pcw but i don't see him here right now
01:48 PM mits5782[m]: yeah, certainly not critical, but thank you for the info 🙂
01:48 PM Tom_L: he _is_ mesa
01:48 PM mits5782[m]: I kno
01:48 PM travis_farmer[m]: all hail the Mesa God, PCW!!! :-)
01:49 PM mits5782[m]: I'm sad that there isn't a buildbot provided by mesa for card configs... cause holy crap do I find it awkward to make my own
01:51 PM unterhausen[m]: mits, have you ever made your own? I would like to be able to do it and not rely on pcw all the time
01:52 PM unterhausen[m]: if you don't want to be labeled as a bot you have to post from discord, which is funny because the people on discord are posting through a bot
01:53 PM Tom_L: mits5782[m], look at mesact
01:53 PM travis_farmer[m]: unterhausen: lol :-)
01:53 PM mits5782[m]: it's symmetry
01:53 PM mits5782[m]: to IRC users, we're bots
01:53 PM mits5782[m]: to us, IRC users are bots
01:54 PM travis_farmer853: unterhausen this better then? no bot now? 🤪
01:54 PM Tom_L: mits5782[m], https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/mesact/index.html
01:54 PM unterhausen[m]: irc just has the good manners not to label people as bots
01:54 PM mits5782[m]: unterhausen I have failed in my builds after getting a working machine with all the tools installed
01:54 PM unterhausen[m]: that stinks, I figure that would happen to me so I have never tried
01:54 PM perry_j1987: is that why no one answers my questions cause i am on irc instead of discord? haha
01:54 PM Tom_L: no we're just ignoring you :)
01:55 PM perry_j1987: lol
01:55 PM Unterhausen: nobody knows the answers to your questions
01:55 PM mits5782[m]: @tom_l I haven't, but does this build firmwares too or something?
01:55 PM perry_j1987: is it the way im asking them haha
01:55 PM Tom_L: no not bit files
01:55 PM Tom_L: but it does help with the ini
01:56 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx14_install_index.php
01:56 PM mits5782[m]: maybe I got confused for someone else? I'm not having trouble with ini/hal files really
01:56 PM Tom_L: for the older fpga chips
01:56 PM Unterhausen: perry I looked back and didn't see a question from you, only that you were having problems with some unnamed vfd
01:56 PM Tom_L: not the new ones like 7i96s have
01:57 PM mits5782[m]: oh, what did they get switched to?
01:57 PM Unterhausen: does mesaact have firmwares?
01:57 PM perry_j1987: nowforever vfd d100s2r2b
01:57 PM Unterhausen: still no question
01:58 PM Tom_L: mits5782[m], efinix fpga
01:58 PM Tom_L: chip shortage thing
01:58 PM perry_j1987: i have it configured for 0-10v and 400hz max but if i give it 10v (verified with multimeter) it only goes up to about 367Hz on the panel
01:59 PM Unterhausen: are the efinix tools available on linux for free?
01:59 PM mits5782[m]: huh
01:59 PM mits5782[m]: neat
01:59 PM Tom_L: Unterhausen, i think they are now acording to pcw
01:59 PM Unterhausen: Perry, seems like they have an analog scaling problem, not sure if you can adjust anything
02:00 PM Unterhausen: I saw that on the mill at work. I fudged the numbers a bit
02:00 PM Unterhausen: Change the max rpm in the vfd if you can
02:01 PM perry_j1987: https://www.docdroid.net/NYibeDM/nowforever-manual-e-100-pdf been going through the parameters on here
02:01 PM perry_j1987: the e-100 is suppose to be the same as d-100 i have
02:02 PM Unterhausen: that's what I had to do on the vfd at work. I wanted 400 and had to set it to 440 to get it
02:02 PM Unterhausen: it was a centroid system and they were no help as usual
02:02 PM pcw-home: slip?
02:04 PM Unterhausen: slip is an interesting idea, do vfd's accommodate that?
02:05 PM CloudEvil: Some can compensate for load, which is basically fixing slip
02:05 PM perry_j1987: ya that works if i set it to 440 then i got solid 400.00Hz if i command 24,000 rpm
02:05 PM perry_j1987: ty
02:06 PM Unterhausen: see what happens when you actually ask a question? don't answer that
02:06 PM perry_j1987: i did ask the question lol
02:07 PM perry_j1987: i gave the environment, the settings and then asked what else i could look at after giving a list of everything i tried and checked lol
02:08 PM Unterhausen: oh, I see it now, it's hidden behind a wall of text with no punctuation. My apologies
02:12 PM perry_j1987: lol
04:15 PM sliptonicBradCol: I've been trying to compile from source and I'm getting compile errors on both the master branch and the 2.9 branch. Different errors. Is there a 2.9 tag that actually compiles?
04:22 PM JT-Shop: Build [#992](http://buildbot2.highlab.com/buildbot/#builders/13/builds/992) of `00-checkin` completed successfully.
04:22 PM flyback: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#x86-S
04:37 PM * JT-Shop gets back to the oil change on the C5
05:03 PM sliptonicBradCol: Thanks JT-Shop. I checked out that commit and it does, indeed compile.
05:04 PM sliptonicBradCol: Now I'm trying to compile a custom kinematics file and getting a syntax error in VERSION script
05:12 PM * roycroft is finally ready to move dirt
05:13 PM roycroft: after i did the painting i realized i have another partial load of yard debris to haul off, and ended up pruning some cedar trees to make a full load
05:13 PM roycroft: it's funny how easy it is to get sidetracked when there are lots of things to do
05:14 PM roycroft: i should still be able to plant basil today, but i won't get as much done on the herb garden as i wanted
05:14 PM roycroft: and next week is fun: meeting monday evening, dinner engagement tuesday evening, meeting wednesday evening, concert thursday evening
05:15 PM roycroft: and i don't doubt that something will come up for friday evening
06:08 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
06:10 PM * JT-Shop backs up Green Onion
06:26 PM JT-Shop: All for the Love of Sunshine brings back memories of a good movie
06:46 PM JT-Shop: a little David Allen Coe and I'm calling it a night
07:00 PM roycroft: so yay
07:00 PM roycroft: herbs are planted
07:01 PM * roycroft feels like he got a lot done today
07:03 PM XXCoder: i removed some blackberry vines yeserday. so tired today
07:04 PM CloudEvil: :)
07:04 PM XXCoder: only 30 minutes of work and im sore all over and tired lol. so weak.
07:26 PM skunkworks[m]: just replaced a faucet at my parents.. Had to cut it out of the sink. I am sore.
07:26 PM XXCoder: fun
07:28 PM Tom_L: feeling age ehh?
07:45 PM * roycroft is feeling his age for sure
07:45 PM roycroft: it does not help that the "helper" at the recycling center threw a log out of the truck next to me and it slipped out of his hands and hit me hard enough to knock me over
07:46 PM roycroft: it took me a while to get up, but i'll live
07:47 PM roycroft: he felt really bad, but i felt worse for not being able to jump back up right away than for getting knocked down in the first place
07:47 PM roycroft: the guy thought he hurt me
07:48 PM roycroft: when really i'm just old