#linuxcnc Logs

Mar 24 2023

04:25 AM Deejay: moin
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09:08 AM Bing[m]: morning
09:20 AM Rowow5457[m]: Good morning
09:20 AM Rowow5457[m]: Is setting up the missing tooth index for a lathe difficult? I'm trying to find documentation on how to do it but am having a hard time finding info
09:23 AM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48TnJQtbCw
09:25 AM Tom_L: https://www.forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/42867-lathe-spindle-feedback
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09:30 AM JT-Shop: got the dev pc all loaded back up and ready to resume the development of mesact2
09:32 AM JT-Shop: it would be easier to understand if I spoke English
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09:35 AM Tom_L: i expected a flat plate
09:38 AM JT-Shop: I had to turn down a bit to fit in a 5c collet so it would be flat in the mill and the lathe
09:38 AM JT-Shop: chucking on the raw stock was not repeatable at all
09:48 AM Rowow5457[m]: I've seen those but it doesn't detail which packages or GitHub addon to download and so forth.
09:48 AM Rowow5457[m]: I tried following one forum post and am getting the error "parameter 'spindleEncoder.counter-mode' not found
09:49 AM Rowow5457[m]: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/24-hal-components/43113-missing-tooth-index-added-to-the-encoder-component
09:50 AM Rowow5457[m]: This is the one I tried to follow but I'm confused what or how he compiled
09:51 AM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/man/man9/spindle.9.html
09:56 AM roycroft: happy friday!
09:56 AM * roycroft is looking forward to the weekend
10:14 AM unterhaus_: Andy suggests a trigger ring. They have a missing tooth. Do the sensors also pick up the teeth?
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10:16 AM Rowow5457[m]: This is what I'm currently using
10:17 AM Rowow5457[m]: It detects the rpm and speed of the spindle
10:17 AM Rowow5457[m]: Just a little short due to the one missing tooth when I measure with a tachometer
10:18 AM Rowow5457[m]: Everyone on YouTube details the mechanical process but skips how they changed the software lol
10:48 AM unterhausen: is it possible the missing tooth version is only on 2.9?
10:50 AM unterhausen: anyway, the missing tooth function is in the encoder component
10:51 AM unterhausen: is it also in the spindle encoder component?
10:55 AM unterhausen: Andy's video seems to say it's only available in 2.9 it does not appear to be in 2.8
10:56 AM unterhausen: I checked the docs for each version
11:04 AM perry_j1987: morning
11:14 AM perry_j1987: what Nm closed loop steppers would you guys suggest for a Taig
11:14 AM unterhausen: as big a motor as you can put on it without it tipping over
11:16 AM perry_j1987: well I can bolt the thing down so... :)
11:17 AM unterhausen: what is the pull out force of the bolts?
11:19 AM perry_j1987: could weld it down too haha
11:20 AM unterhausen: I got bard to write me a python program once and tried again and it said it couldn't help me
11:21 AM perry_j1987: havn't played with bard yet
11:21 AM perry_j1987: how is it vs chatgpt
11:22 AM unterhausen: so far I'm trying to figure out how to get it to do something useful
11:24 AM unterhausen: I asked it your question and it was somewhat noncommittal
11:24 AM unterhausen: A general rule of thumb is that the torque required is equal to the cutting force multiplied by the radius of the lathe's spindle. For example, if a 12-inch lathe is cutting a 1-inch diameter piece of steel, the torque required would be 100 pounds of force multiplied by 0.5 inches, or 25 foot-pounds.
11:24 AM Rowow5457[m]: thanks so much ill try to upgrade to 2.9 and see again. Hopefully its a built in GUI option in the newer version
11:25 AM unterhausen: I don't think it's a built-in gui function
11:25 AM unterhausen: I'm not sure how you would do that
11:26 AM Rowow5457[m]: any instructions on setting up a missing tooth index? or where would I look for such documentation
11:27 AM unterhausen: it's probably a bit new for that
11:27 AM unterhausen: what are you trying to do with it? Electronic gearing?
11:28 AM Rowow5457[m]: im just trying to setup a index encoder on my lathe spindle
11:28 AM Rowow5457[m]: for threading operations
11:29 AM Rowow5457[m]: im confused how everyone else on youtube does it
11:29 AM Rowow5457[m]: they all skip the software part of it and dont show what modifications they did
11:29 AM Rowow5457[m]: s/of it and dont show///
11:29 AM Rowow5457[m]: s/*//, s///
11:31 AM unterhausen: I think that's generally called electronic gearing
11:31 AM unterhausen: there isn't anything on the wiki about it, but Andy's page on hobbing might help
11:32 AM Tom_L: for threads you need spindle sync as well as that index pulse
11:32 AM unterhausen: I know people have done electronic gearing with lcnc
11:33 AM Rowow5457[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4B-MksNBJQ
11:33 AM Rowow5457[m]: so confused what he did to achomplish this
11:33 AM unterhausen: too bad they never put it on the wiki
11:33 AM Tom_L: for sync on my mill:
11:33 AM Rowow5457[m]: just skips from showing a piece of plastic to the reading on the hal meter
11:33 AM Tom_L: # For Spindle Sync
11:33 AM Tom_L: net spindle-index-enable <=> hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.encoder.01.index-enable
11:33 AM Tom_L: net spindle-index-enable <=> spindle.0.index-enable
11:33 AM unterhausen: yeah, skunkworks is a master of hal
11:33 AM Tom_L: it should be quite similar on the lathe
11:34 AM Rowow5457[m]: what does this do?
11:34 AM Rowow5457[m]: is this also for a missing tooth index setup
11:34 AM unterhausen: I will admit to being confused as well
11:34 AM Tom_L: when you use a gcode that uses sync it locks it to the spindle so the axis travel follows it
11:34 AM unterhausen: the missing tooth thing only fixes your encoder
11:34 AM Tom_L: ie threading etc
11:35 AM Tom_L: Rowow5457[m], no matter how you get the pulse, it syncs the spindle
11:35 AM unterhausen: it doesn't really change how the encoder works
11:35 AM unterhausen: it's the same as having a real encoder with an index pulse
11:35 AM Tom_L: G33.1 is an example
11:36 AM Tom_L: G33 is another
11:36 AM Tom_L: they both do virtually the same thing
11:36 AM unterhausen: I suggest starting a thread on the encoder with as detailed of a post as possible. Maybe in the Hal forum
11:38 AM unterhausen: skunkworks missed a bet by not having the "a few days later" slide say "and magic happens"
11:38 AM Tom_L: it might be easier to add a 'tooth' and a hall sensor somewhere and use that for the index
11:39 AM Tom_L: pretty sure that's what skunkworks[m] did
11:40 AM unterhausen: he cut out a tooth on his encoder wheel
11:41 AM Rowow5457[m]: Ok I'll try that thanks. Hopefully I get some advice. I'm very confused and don't know where to start or do
11:42 AM unterhausen: what interfaces are you using, mesa?
11:46 AM Rowow5457[m]: parrallel port
11:46 AM Rowow5457[m]: the cheap $10 break out board
11:46 AM Rowow5457[m]: it works great but just trying to get basic threading operations
11:46 AM unterhausen: and you have a stepper for feed and another for crossfeed?
11:47 AM unterhausen: I just asked what you are using because the hobbing example would be easier to follow if you had a mesa
11:47 AM Rowow5457[m]: yes
11:48 AM Rowow5457[m]: for my future projects ive started to go with mesa, but currently I already have a working setup and this should be the final upgrade on my lathe.
11:50 AM unterhausen: it's not a lot different really
11:50 AM unterhausen: with a parport you have to tell it one of the inputs is an encoder
11:52 AM unterhausen: my hal programming is more than a little rusty though
12:06 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I thought LCNC was in itself electronic gearing with all its synchronized motion stuff
12:09 PM jpa-: but if you want to use linuxcnc just as electronic gearing for a manual lathe, you wouldn't use the motion control stuff and instead hook up just HAL components encoder -> scale -> PID/stepgen
12:10 PM CaptHindsight[m]: unterhausen: is "electronic gearing" the term used when the spindle position is synchronized to rest of the machine?
12:11 PM CaptHindsight[m]: jpa-: partially manual or fully manual lathe?
12:12 PM unterhausen: "electronic gearing" is when the rest of the machine is synchronized to the spindle
12:12 PM unterhausen: it's not really cnc
12:12 PM unterhausen: but it could be
12:12 PM unterhausen: the encoder setup is the same
12:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it's an old term that I have wondered what the hell they really meant by it
12:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it"
12:14 PM unterhausen: I want to do it because my gearbox is in inches and I want to use unholy communis' metric units occasionally
12:14 PM unterhausen: there are boxes containing arduinos that do it
12:15 PM CaptHindsight[m]: "HAL components encoder -> scale -> PID/stepgen" in this example is the stepgen connected to some set of electrodes in the operators muscles?
12:16 PM unterhausen: the operator has to stand in a puddle of water that has a good connection to ground
12:16 PM unterhausen: Cap
12:16 PM unterhausen: where did you get that quote?
12:17 PM roguish[m]1: electronic gearing is just when one axis is synched with another 'electronically' or programmatically. can be most anything. hal can do that without the whole linuxcnc gui..... one of the really cool things about hal.
12:17 PM unterhausen: my lathe has a very simple connection between the spindle and the gearbox unless you want to use metric threads
12:18 PM unterhausen: then you need to track down a 127 tooth gear
12:18 PM unterhausen: I have drives that will do electronic gearing, unfortunately with a very limited number of ratios
12:18 PM unterhausen: and 127:100 isn't one of them
12:19 PM unterhausen: I'm pretty sure on my lathe it's at least $1000 worth of gears to replace the timing belt
12:20 PM unterhausen: unless you hob them yourself, of course
12:21 PM unterhausen: I think the youtube I saw about electronic gearing just uses hal with some simple interface
12:21 PM unterhausen: using full-up lcnc would be pointless, I think
12:22 PM jpa-: CaptHindsight[m]: the stepgen would drive a stepper connected to the leadscrew
12:22 PM jpa-: "electronic leadscrew" is another common term for it, often implemented using a microcontroller
12:23 PM unterhausen: yeah, leadscrew might be a better search term for a lathe implementation
12:34 PM CaptHindsight[m]: manual with stepper motor, not your fault, just horrible terms
12:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so I am now calling all CNC lathes a manual lathe if they have a MPG :)
12:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: sorry i asked, doesn't really matter, next topic please
12:35 PM jpa-: they are not really manual if they have a spindle motor replacing the assistant
12:55 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I'm just glad that Mesa hasn't decided to start calling their cards, hats, cloaks, bat suits or similar
12:55 PM roycroft: they're bonnets
01:00 PM CaptHindsight[m]: does that translate to hood or trunk lid?
01:01 PM roycroft: it's a bonnie lassie
01:01 PM CaptHindsight[m]: boot lid
01:02 PM CaptHindsight[m]: are there any British superheros?
01:02 PM roycroft: well, there's bicycle repair man
01:03 PM roycroft: and lemming of the bda
01:08 PM CloudEvil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperTed
01:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/silent_bomber/lists/top-25-uk-born-super-heroes-that-originated-in-bri/56365/
02:56 PM miss0r: 'evening
03:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: miss0r: did you finish that gas guzzler project?
03:13 PM miss0r: CaptHindsight[m]: Is that a reference to my 101" land rover?
03:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: maybe
03:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: fresh aluminum insides
03:14 PM miss0r: If so: One can never finish a land rover project!. Its like living in an old house - once you done fixing one thing another one comes out'a nowhere
03:14 PM bjorkintosh: or you burn it all down and walk away ... michael bay style.
03:14 PM bjorkintosh: In. Slow. Motion.
03:15 PM miss0r: yeah well.. I payed for it, so you better believe I will turn around to look at the explosion :D
03:15 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Bulgarian road trip
03:16 PM bjorkintosh: hahaha.
03:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: can you mention vacation and the Balkans in same sentence?
03:16 PM bjorkintosh: oh. the word simply means Mountain in turkish.
03:16 PM bjorkintosh: so it's quite likely.
03:17 PM miss0r: "The balkan is not somewhere I would go on vacation, ever" ?
03:17 PM bjorkintosh: a mountain hike vacation!
03:18 PM miss0r: I've had the (dis)pleasure of working on alot of Turkish build machines as of late...
03:18 PM miss0r: So that is not realy a quality stamp to me
03:18 PM bjorkintosh: what's wrong with them?
03:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: a joke setup there if there ever was one
03:18 PM bjorkintosh: oh
03:19 PM bjorkintosh: erf quake.
03:19 PM miss0r: No joke here. These machines are not funny. :)
03:19 PM bjorkintosh: slow. sorry.
03:19 PM miss0r: sarcasm does not translate well on IRC. So I try to steer clear
03:20 PM miss0r: There are ALOT of issues. And claiming they are CE branded is questionable at best. But the biggest problem is; These particular machines are made to be used outdoor. So it rains on them. And *that* they cannot handle over a medium period of time
03:21 PM miss0r: One of the machine types I repair is a rebar cutter. When it sits in the rain, it can dripple straight down through the motor protection box and into the motor windings for the hydraulic pump.
03:22 PM miss0r: And I am hardpressed to buy a proper 3phase induction motor for less than half the price for a new cutter unit. So it is usualy scrapped, unless it is brand new when I get it in for repair.
03:23 PM miss0r: Now they've started sending me the new ones they buy, so I can make a proper motor protection box for it. and by proper I mean: "Does not allot a light drizzle to flow down and ruin the motor"
03:24 PM miss0r: The other unit in question is a rebar bender. WIth a turntable on top where you can place pins into it to do all sorts of shapes ect. Rain can run past the vertical shaft underthe turntable and go straight into the gearbox - no axle seal in there.
03:24 PM miss0r: Its just cheap garbage. </rant>
03:25 PM bjorkintosh: must be a design issue regarding the protection.
03:25 PM bjorkintosh: must be. Is!
03:26 PM Alicrow-phone: After over a year, we finally got the CNC mill back together and all axes hooked up. Last night managed to home them all. Still more to be done (like proper PID tuning), but I'm gonna try running through some example G Code after work today. Really excited/nervous to see it actually execute a program.
03:28 PM miss0r: Alicrow-phone: Good luck
03:29 PM Alicrow-phone: Thanks.
03:30 PM Alicrow-phone: I totally understand why people just buy brand new machines rather than getting old ones off Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace. The amount of work this has required is pretty crazy.
03:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I enjoy the engineering and assembly not the operating part
03:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: how do you make machining enjoyable? ..... Letting someone else do it
03:37 PM bjorkintosh: Alicrow-phone, just like cars. there is always a market for brand new cars and of course, used cars.
03:38 PM bjorkintosh: depends on how much crap you're willing to deal with.
03:38 PM skunkworks: Rowow5457[m]: I could look a t what hal I did..
03:39 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I wish someone would connect a sim racing wheel or flight stick to control a CNC
03:39 PM skunkworks: well - the xbox controller is popular..
03:40 PM CaptHindsight[m]: MPG's are too clumsy
03:40 PM * skunkworks (throws up in his mouth a little)
03:40 PM skunkworks: You will have to pry my MPG from my cold dead body
03:40 PM Alicrow-phone: You can buy a used car that's perfectly fine. Somehow with machinist stuff, anything used is just full of problems even when the seller claims they fixed it up.
03:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: every used machine I've gotten has had issues, mostly wiring
03:42 PM CaptHindsight[m]: even something as simple as a drill press
03:42 PM skunkworks: Alicrow-phone: crap shoot. I buy stuff assuming nothing works.
03:42 PM CaptHindsight[m]: people confuse ground and neutrals too often
03:44 PM Alicrow-phone: With woodworking, it's easy to get away with used equipment. But for machining, it's a whole different story.
03:46 PM CaptHindsight[m]: oh no, not woodworking, they just stopped talking about it earlier today :)
03:48 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it's like there are no subs for woodworking on IRC, Matrix, Deluge etc
03:49 PM roycroft: i don't see that there's a big difference between used metalworking machines and used woodworking machines
03:49 PM roycroft: they all can have issues
03:49 PM roycroft: and they all can be fixed
03:49 PM CaptHindsight[m]: a place to discuss splinters, glue and sanding against the grain
03:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: "How to use 50 grit on a veneer"
03:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: MDF for beginners
03:51 PM Rowow5457[m]: that would help a ton!!!
03:51 PM Rowow5457[m]: some reference that works helps me a ton in learning how things work
03:52 PM CaptHindsight[m]: nails vs screws? Why you should care.
03:54 PM roycroft: well there are four different grit systems in common use for paper abrasives
03:55 PM roycroft: so you have to determine which 50 grit you're talking about for starters
03:55 PM roycroft: cami and fepa are the two most common found in this country
03:55 PM roycroft: (the conglomerated states of america)
03:56 PM roycroft: abrasive grits are more confusing to people than american customary vs metric
03:56 PM roycroft: especially since the vast majority of people aren't aware that there is more than one system in use
03:59 PM XXCoder: yeah. I remember that epoxy create stuff guy having those special pads that have its own grit system
04:00 PM skunkworks: Rowow5457[m]: and as noted - you need 2.9 for missing tooth indes
04:01 PM skunkworks: lol
04:03 PM Alicrow-phone: In my experience, it's a very different level of "issues" between woodworking and machinist stuff.
04:04 PM roycroft: not so much in my experience, and i've purchased used machine shop machines and used woodworking machines
04:05 PM roycroft: i'd say that one might be a bit more tolerant of issues with woodworking machines if one is content with producing mediocre work
04:05 PM roycroft: i'll concede that with machining, things are more black and white than woodworking needs to be
04:06 PM roycroft: i.e. when machining a part, there's a very fine line between go and no-go, while with woodworking, sloppiness can sometimes be better compensated for
04:07 PM roycroft: but to produce top-quality intricate joinery in wood one requires fairly precise machinery and setups
04:08 PM roycroft: one can often produce sloppy joints and disguise them with globs of glue and sawdust
04:08 PM roycroft: and get away with it
04:08 PM roycroft: that's harder to do with machining
04:09 PM Alicrow-phone: Woodworking: this tablesaw is missing a riving knife, some belt covers, and a few screws, but it works fine. I'll order some replacement parts for around $100 total and put them in. Will only take an hour or two.
04:09 PM Alicrow-phone: Machining: *has to take apart the entire machine, and hope all the parts are available. $3k+ and countless months later, it's still clapped out and considered complete garbage, but is almost usable.*
04:10 PM XXCoder: welder and grinder make you an excellent machinist you are not? ;)
04:11 PM Alicrow-phone: Surface grinder, maybe, in a handful of situations, if you also have a crazy amount of time to spare.
04:11 PM roycroft: i don't mean to make this into an argument, but that's kind of cherry picking some hypothetical examples
04:11 PM Alicrow-phone: They're not hypothetical.
04:11 PM roycroft: my jet 12x36 lathe was made 40+ years ago, and i've been able to order parts for it cheaply
04:12 PM roycroft: my tablesaw is of similar vintage and parts are almost impossible to come by
04:12 PM roycroft: i get what you're saying, but i don't think the difference is as great as you are making it out to be
04:13 PM roycroft: in my view, any old, used equipment is prone to presenting interesting challenges
04:15 PM Alicrow-phone: Yeah, the parts availability is a crapshoot, of course, but with woodworking equipment, you can usually either live without that part, or it's immediately obvious it's missing or broken before you buy it. With machinist stuff, you actually need to disassemble everything to see what's broken, and EVERYTHING has to be in good shape or it will seem to work at first, but will never produce acceptable results.
04:17 PM Alicrow-phone: I suspect part of this is that my wife (who's a machinist) is kind of a perfectionist, while I (woodworker) usually just make the most of things.
04:18 PM Alicrow-phone: But seriously, the tolerances in machinist stuff is crazy compared to woodworking.
04:19 PM Alicrow-phone: As a woodworker, I have never had to measure any more precise than 1/64". She's measuring in 0.0001" regularly.
04:19 PM JT-Shop: just depends on the part your making when machining
04:25 PM Rowow5457[m]: thanks for the comfirmation downloading debian 11 right now to be able to upgrade to linux 2.9
04:25 PM JT-Shop: Rowow5457[m], I have some install guides if you want to see them
04:27 PM Rowow5457[m]: yes please!!!!!!
04:27 PM Rowow5457[m]: the simpliest guide would be the most appreciated 🙏 (installing from scratch/etc)
04:27 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/index.html
04:28 PM Rowow5457[m]: this has been the one ive been following haha, great guide btw only confusion I have is with getting 13 from scratch
04:28 PM Rowow5457[m]: is there a way to install debian 13 from a USB install or do I have to first get 11 then upgrade to 13?
04:29 PM JT-Shop: why do you want 13?
04:29 PM JT-Shop: it's unstable!
04:29 PM Rowow5457[m]: oh never mind then. should I stay with 11? im just looking for 2.9, I simply assumed the latest was the best
04:29 PM Rowow5457[m]: sorry for my ignorance
04:29 PM JT-Shop: 11 or 12 is ok
04:29 PM * travis_farmer[m] has 2.9 on deb11, and it runs great
04:30 PM JT-Shop: I have to use 12 on my dev pc because my video card is not known by 11
04:30 PM travis_farmer[m]: understandable, jt :-)
04:30 PM Rowow5457[m]: ok ill stick with 11 then thank you!
04:30 PM Rowow5457[m]: im running a really old pc
04:31 PM JT-Shop: that will be fine
04:31 PM travis_farmer[m]: how old?
04:31 PM Rowow5457[m]: parrallel port old
04:31 PM JT-Shop: I'm running ubuntu 10 on my hardinge chnc lathe
04:31 PM travis_farmer[m]: that is a wide range...
04:31 PM Rowow5457[m]: I can get the specifics
04:31 PM Rowow5457[m]: will it not work for some older machiens?
04:31 PM Rowow5457[m]: s/machiens/machines/
04:32 PM JT-Shop: install 11 and if everything works stop there
04:32 PM travis_farmer[m]: just making sure it is at least a 64bit cpu, i think that is required
04:33 PM travis_farmer[m]: if it has a turbo button to change between 33 and 66Mhz, it is too old ;-)
04:33 PM Rowow5457[m]: HP 7800 intel core 2 duo
04:34 PM roycroft: today will be a momentous day for me
04:34 PM roycroft: i've been doing some little upgrades to my kitchen to make it work better
04:34 PM roycroft: and today i'll be receiving a combination ota and internet radio for the kitchen
04:34 PM travis_farmer[m]: should be fine, rowow
04:34 PM roycroft: that will replace the undercabinet tv/fm radio that's been there for 25 years or so
04:35 PM roycroft: the tv is the last analog tv that i own
04:35 PM roycroft: i haven't used the tv part for many years, of course
04:35 PM Rowow5457[m]: thanks jt and travis, will install and play with it tomorrow hopefully I can get the indexing working!
04:35 PM roycroft: 'cuz there hasn't been analog tv in this country for many years
04:37 PM travis_farmer[m]: nearly supper time... signing off for the night :-)
04:37 PM skunkworks[m]: Rowow: I don't think I have a config - I think I was doing it all in hal..
04:37 PM skunkworks[m]: just testing
04:40 PM skunkworks[m]: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.9/html/man/man9/encoder.9.html
04:41 PM skunkworks[m]: encoder.N.missing-teeth s32 in
04:41 PM skunkworks[m]: The number of teeth missing from the index gap. For example a 60 tooth gear with two teeth shortened to form an index so that there are 58 pulses per revolution would use a position-scale of 60 and a missing-teeth of 2.
04:41 PM Rowow5457[m]: would I simply add a line of the following "encoder.1.missing-teeth s32 in"
04:41 PM Rowow5457[m]: I dont understand what s32 is or in, or how do I add the number of teeth that are missing
04:42 PM XXCoder: interesting video. https://youtu.be/Dg8oVR4k5Dk
04:42 PM XXCoder: some machining
04:42 PM skunkworks[m]: setp encoder.1.missing-teeth 1
04:42 PM skunkworks[m]: (if you have 1 missing tooth)
04:43 PM skunkworks[m]: (or slot) whatever
04:43 PM Rowow5457[m]: thank you!!! I wasted like 5 hours today trying everything untill I realized that I simply didn't have the right version lol
04:43 PM Rowow5457[m]: I have a 60 tooth with 1 missing slot so hopefully this works
04:44 PM skunkworks[m]: give it a try. if it doesn't work - come back.
04:45 PM skunkworks[m]: I goofed around with it and it seemed good.
04:54 PM JT-Shop: Rowow5457[m], s32 is a type of number
04:54 PM JT-Shop: so +-32 bit number
04:57 PM Rowow5457[m]: oooo now that makes sense
04:57 PM Rowow5457[m]: so its just explaining what type of number it allows
04:57 PM Rowow5457[m]: so the ones that ask for a bit would only be 1 or 0>
04:57 PM JT-Shop: correct
04:58 PM JT-Shop: s32 is an integer
04:59 PM skunkworks: signed integer :P)
05:00 PM JT-Shop: :)
05:02 PM skunkworks: Rowow5457[m]: once you start understanding hal - they sky is the limit.
05:02 PM skunkworks: it is amazing
05:06 PM Alicrow-phone: Wooo!! The mill managed to draw the LinuxCNC logo!!
05:07 PM skunkworks[m]: Yay!
05:27 PM Rowow5457[m]: little by little! but its definetly one of my goals I want to do. im a learner by doer so seeing working code/etc helps me a ton in learning it. Ill definetly be trying to take in tips and information. in the future I have alot of goals and dreams I want to do with linux cnc.
10:22 PM roycroft: the snow line is supposed to be down to 200m tonight
10:23 PM roycroft: i'm at 150m