#linuxcnc Logs

Feb 18 2023

12:03 AM CaptHindsight[m]: how many factors does it take until you have 100% security or authentication?
12:14 AM CaptHindsight[m]: and will it ever be allowed for plebs?
12:37 AM CaptHindsight[m]: there is, but you won't like it
01:46 AM sensille: are those 550w dust collectors louder than a shopvac?
02:10 AM Deejay: moin
03:18 AM travis_farmer[m]: G'Morning ☕️
06:00 AM Tom_L: morning
06:13 AM JT[m]: Morning
06:33 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
06:34 AM JT-Cave: I connected my laptop to my phone hotspot and turned on network sharing but it only seems to work if I plug directly into the laptop
06:34 AM JT-Cave: this is on my rpi
06:35 AM JT-Cave: if I can get the switch to work I'm golden
06:36 AM JT-Cave: weird the sharing address uses 137 subnet
06:58 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
07:02 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
07:04 AM JT-Cave: finally the switch works, I have my dev pc and the rpi connected to it
07:04 AM JT-Cave: can't view my cameras because they are on a different subnet...
07:17 AM JT-Cave: Tom_L, mesact2 should build now
08:04 AM travis_farmer[m]: JT, just curious... why does Tom_L build mesact for you? is it for hardware you don't have, or a skillset you don't have? i don't mean anything negative by it, just curious.
08:50 AM Lcvette[m]: travis_farmer: think he testing it
08:52 AM Lcvette[m]: JT-Cave: glad you got internet again!
08:52 AM Lcvette[m]: \o/
09:37 AM JT-Cave: just partially using my phone hotspot
09:38 AM JT-Cave: travis_farmer[m], he builds the Rpi debs for me
09:53 AM Tom_L: JT[m], figure anything out on your starlink?
10:13 AM Tom_L: skunkworks, he did but he can't connect to the internet right now
10:13 AM Tom_L: trying to diagnose it
10:25 AM roguish[m]1: JT-Cave: Russian hackers....
10:26 AM Tom_L: maybe he needed one of those 'spy' balloons for good reception :)
10:26 AM Tom_L: JT[m], the deb seemed to install but doesn't launch from the menu but did overwrite the old one
10:29 AM Tom_L: ran it from a term...
10:30 AM Tom_L: i think you should put firmware next to the machine tab.. it's the next logical thing to select after selecting the board
10:31 AM Tom_L: you need those 2 before you really can finish anything else
10:32 AM Tom_L: (make the tabs a progression of completion)
10:32 AM Tom_L: since you separated some things
10:39 AM Tom_L: JT[m], looks good so far
10:39 AM Tom_L: lots of things to connect but i get that
10:42 AM Tom_L: find a home for MDI COMMAND :)
10:42 AM Tom_L: dunno if it would fit on I/O tab once it's filled in
11:18 AM _unreal_: Ok. what to go do..... I just finished doing CAD drawing stuff and updates. https://github.com/berin-aquaquad/orange-pi-5
11:18 AM _unreal_: the design is really coming along
11:18 AM _unreal_: t4nk_freenode, whats new
12:04 PM pere: both the spanish and the slovak translation of gmoccapy seem to have build blocking typos.
12:44 PM JT[m]: Crap
12:46 PM Tom_L: now what?
12:50 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, its not shit its just crap
12:51 PM Tom_L: his sat is down
12:53 PM _unreal_: tv or starlink?
12:53 PM _unreal_: t4nk_freenode, never responds any more... sigh
12:53 PM Tom_L: starlink
12:53 PM XXCoder: jt isnt using his irc accounts. what do you think?
12:55 PM t4nk_freenode: that is a blatant and outright lie, BerinmyMaineMan
01:05 PM _unreal_: t4nk_freenode, https://github.com/berin-aquaquad/orange-pi-5
01:07 PM JT[m]: Can't reset the starlink modem back to default
01:07 PM Tom_L: no button on it?
01:08 PM Tom_L: https://www.starlinkhardware.com/how-to-starlink-router-factory-reset/
01:09 PM _unreal_: t4nk_freenode, any progress with any projects?
01:09 PM _unreal_: t4nk_freenode, also I just purchased an ender neo
01:10 PM t4nk_freenode: yeah, I've been messing around here and there
01:13 PM t4nk_freenode: ran into some frustrating usb problems atm though
01:14 PM t4nk_freenode: see if I can muster up some willpower tonight, and try to finish designing a case for an adapter I made
01:17 PM JT[m]: Tom_L done that 10 or more times
01:18 PM Tom_L: maybe you need a new modem
01:19 PM Tom_L: did you check the wire at the sat?
01:19 PM JT[m]: I'm trying to use the starlink modem
01:20 PM Tom_L: right
01:20 PM Tom_L: but it won't reset?
01:20 PM JT[m]: Setting up some scaffolding to reach the roof
01:20 PM JT[m]: It reset once then reverted back to pass through
01:20 PM Tom_L: :/
01:28 PM JT[m]: One thing for sure is the scaffolding is not going back in that hole I dug it out of lol
01:30 PM Tom_L: heh
01:30 PM Tom_L: you'd think they would have a more secure connection on the dish
01:30 PM Tom_L: it's the first thing they say to check
01:40 PM XXCoder: ToT would be a airport security nightmare lol
01:52 PM JT[m]: Looks like I finally got the router back to default
01:56 PM Tom_L: how?
01:57 PM XXCoder: precission work
01:57 PM XXCoder: ;)
02:02 PM * JT[m] uploaded an image: (455KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/EZrMqNoHVVdQmyOSSwbfKYpJ/20230218_140110.jpg >
02:02 PM JT[m]: Kept power cycling it
02:02 PM Tom_L: wow
02:03 PM Tom_L: odd way to reset a device for sure
02:09 PM JT[m]: Didn't see anything wrong with the plug
02:09 PM Tom_L: odd
02:13 PM travis_farmer[m]: dang, i barfed on my new website SSL cert... set it for tjfhome.net, rather than www.tjfhome.net, now firefox complains that the crt is for the wrong domain...
02:18 PM travis_farmer[m]: oh well, nobody visits ON PURPOSE, anyway. ;-) just the Russian SPAM bots...
02:18 PM XXCoder: man what a fun ToT video lol
02:32 PM JT[m]: Now it says online and poor cable connection
02:33 PM JT[m]: So it ain't the ethernet adapter
02:33 PM JT[m]: Dunno what to do now
02:33 PM travis_farmer[m]: call up Elon ;-)
02:35 PM Tom_L: maybe the cable is bad
02:36 PM Tom_L: maybe the ouside one gets coroded
02:36 PM XXCoder: does it go near EMF sources like power runs?
02:36 PM JT[m]: It looked pristine
02:36 PM Tom_L: doubt it's emf
02:37 PM Tom_L: he had it for quite a while before this
02:37 PM Tom_L: anything look chewed on?
02:38 PM Tom_L: squirrels get our cable lines sometimes
02:39 PM JT[m]: Squirrel ate my flag and the BBQ pit cover
02:39 PM XXCoder: weird
02:40 PM Tom_L: he's had issues like that before
02:42 PM _unreal_: ya bad cable or bad connection point.
02:45 PM JT[m]: Cable is perfect
02:45 PM Tom_L: running out of ideas
02:47 PM * JT[m] uploaded an image: (188KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/XTHBbtjLEZPedcJXIuNXQZqB/20230218_144610.jpg >
02:47 PM XXCoder: man sat is more and more my favorite day
02:47 PM XXCoder: blondihack, tot, artisan make, clickspring short today lol
02:47 PM Tom_L: looks like a standard usb b
02:48 PM XXCoder: ronald make, AND cnc kitchen lol
02:48 PM XXCoder: so many machinist videos today
02:48 PM XXCoder: only one not machinist is legaleagle
02:48 PM t4nk_freenode: _unreal_, so.. you bought an extra mini computer... and then you make a towering infernally large case for it, well done :))
02:49 PM XXCoder: connector looks ok I think. bit weird blue stuff on seal, I guess grease for better seal or something
02:52 PM Tom_L: moisture seal
02:53 PM XXCoder: ya what I figured because its going to be outside for long term
02:56 PM travis_farmer[m]: had to install a new bathroom fan today, and a LED light in the shower... so sadly i didn't get any quality time with my machine. :-(
03:09 PM _unreal_: t4nk_freenode, extra large? its a micro tower and its about the same ratio as the rest out there for the RPI4 etc...
03:11 PM _unreal_: /msg t4nk_freenode so remember that stock I was talking about MMTLP well its now the biggest case of fraud in the world. bigger then FTX and madeoff comebind by a landslide..... the only real place you can find info on it is twitter. all media and search engines are trying to do a total black out on it.
03:11 PM t4nk_freenode: well, you got a response in your repo where someone just happens to remark in the same way I found... so not quite, aquabuddy :)
03:12 PM _unreal_: t4nk_freenode, not sure who your talking about?
03:14 PM t4nk_freenode: there's only 2 issues listed
03:15 PM _unreal_: never noted that. he asked about an m.2 adapter....
03:15 PM _unreal_: and he never followed up
03:28 PM t4nk_freenode: mmzz, I still need to move my stuff over to the new ssd
03:28 PM t4nk_freenode: got 2T today
03:35 PM Lcvette[m]: <JT[m]> "20230218_144610.jpg" <- whats that?
03:40 PM Lcvette[m]: how does the wire run look to the satellitedish?
03:41 PM Lcvette[m]: s/satellitedish/satellite dish/
03:41 PM Lcvette[m]: maybe squirels chewed on it? seems they like you stuff
03:41 PM Lcvette[m]: s/you/your/
03:41 PM Lcvette[m]: /o\
03:42 PM travis_farmer[m]: keep in mind, Lcvette , when you edit your post, both the first post and the edited post shows up in IRC ;-)
03:43 PM travis_farmer[m]: oh, correction, that seems to have changed... sorry
04:10 PM XXCoder: wow new clickspring video is nuts so far
04:20 PM CaptHindsight[m]: XXCoder: does anyone edit those vids down to just a few minutes of actual info?
04:20 PM XXCoder: which video?
04:28 PM * travis_farmer[m] wonders if his 1/8inch PVC panel will hold up for his control panel (button presses, E-Stop slaps...)
04:42 PM * travis_farmer[m] thinks maybe he may switch to a 5052 aluminum panel...
05:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: XXCoder: possibly the one that you had just mentioned
05:21 PM XXCoder: clickspring?
05:23 PM XXCoder: hes pretty good on editing so I dont see any repeating stuff there
05:33 PM unterhaus_: sendcutsend makes really nice metal control panels if your pvc control panel explodes
06:01 PM CaptHindsight[m]: XXCoder: it's..............................just................................drawn .............................out.................
06:01 PM CaptHindsight[m]: a....................................bit..............................................on.............................
06:01 PM XXCoder: I still dont know what video youre talking about so
06:01 PM XXCoder: whatever
06:02 PM XXCoder: it may be olvious to you but it is not to me.
06:02 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ok, nevermind, good day!
06:03 PM XXCoder: ok mr vague
06:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but it's pronounced Vah-Goo-aye
06:18 PM bjorkintosh: how hard would it be to build something like this? https://www.predator-software.com/images/partners/Haas%20CNCs.png
06:18 PM bjorkintosh: I guess it would have to be modular.
06:19 PM XXCoder: if you have box somehow, or make it, rest shouldnt be too hard I would think'
06:19 PM bjorkintosh: those damned things are fucking heavy. Can't figure out what the hell is inside.
06:19 PM XXCoder: you would need to either hack a keyboard or make custom interface for all those million buttons
06:20 PM bjorkintosh: no matter. these days a lot of the interfaces are touchscreens anyway.
06:21 PM bjorkintosh: the only physical buttons tend to be estop, jog, on and off.
06:21 PM bjorkintosh: everything else is onscreen.
06:22 PM bjorkintosh: ... plus a few extras I forgot about.
06:38 PM Tom_L: bjorkintosh, https://www.hammfg.com/electrical
06:40 PM Tom_L: https://www.hammfg.com/electrical/products/operator
06:40 PM bjorkintosh: neat.
06:40 PM Tom_L: i've ordered from them in the past
06:42 PM Tom_L: https://www.hammfg.com/electrical/products/commercial
06:43 PM XXCoder: tom nice
06:44 PM Tom_L: some products also sold thru digikey
08:08 PM Tom_L: bjorkintosh, https://www.ebay.com/itm/125406653651
08:08 PM Tom_L: $$
08:10 PM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/363721634750
09:26 PM unterhaus_: hard to find boxes like that for a reasonable amount of money for a hobby project
09:27 PM Tom_L: yeah
09:28 PM Tom_L: i found a rittal enclosure when i was doing mine
09:28 PM Tom_L: wished it was a tiny bit bigger but it works
09:28 PM unterhaus_: roycroft had a source at a brewing equipment company that was reasonable
09:28 PM unterhaus_: I have it bookmarked somewhere
09:29 PM Tom_L: nice heavy box
09:30 PM CaptHindsight[m]: how about a UI that is mostly mechanical buttons BUT each button has a small display on it so that each button may be changed to suit the users preferences?
09:30 PM IG_Kevin0751[m]: I hate to ask, but is anyone interested in doing a private call tomorrow and guiding me thru setting up linuxcnc? brand new to this, a bit of an idiot when it comes to mesa boards and what not, ive got a 7i76e, and a 4 DM542 drivers
09:31 PM Tom_L: no private call but you're welcome to ask here
09:31 PM bjorkintosh: <Tom_L> $$ more like $$$.$$!
09:31 PM Tom_L: try getting jt's mesact tool
09:31 PM Tom_L: bjorkintosh, heh
09:31 PM bjorkintosh: at $$ I can afford it without thinking twice.
09:32 PM Tom_L: IG_Kevin0751[m], https://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/mesact/index.html
09:32 PM unterhaus_: www.auberins.com
09:33 PM Tom_L: that $89 box they show looks alot like the rittal one i have
09:35 PM Tom_L: IG_Kevin0751[m], unfortunately JT is having internet issues and isn't present currently
09:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Tom_L: did he narrow down the issue to which component or cable is bad?
09:37 PM Tom_L: not really
09:37 PM Tom_L: the cable looked good
09:37 PM Tom_L: and wasn't disconnected
09:37 PM Tom_L: the modem factory reset finally
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09:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 🤔
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09:38 PM Tom_L: IG_Kevin0751[m], http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Stepper_Drive_Timing
09:38 PM Tom_L: should help with timing some
09:38 PM Tom_L: i don't see that exact driver but the leadshine look similar
09:39 PM Tom_L: as far as timing
09:40 PM Tom_L: CaptHindsight[m], <JT[m]> Now it says online and poor cable connection
09:40 PM Tom_L: <JT[m]> So it ain't the ethernet adapter
09:40 PM Tom_L: <JT[m]> Dunno what to do now
09:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: JT: which cable is it referring to?
09:42 PM CaptHindsight[m]: sorry I'm not much help, just curious
09:42 PM Tom_L: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/XTHBbtjLEZPedcJXIuNXQZqB/20230218_144610.jpg
09:43 PM Tom_L: dish to modem
09:45 PM Tom_L: he's got the newer square dish
09:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/wa4kwv/poor_cable_connection_issue/
09:46 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the thread mentions moisture getting into the connection at the dish and
09:46 PM CaptHindsight[m]: dust, insulation, drywall dust etc getting into the connector on the modem end
09:47 PM Tom_L: he spent the day setting up scaffolding & checking the dish end
09:47 PM CaptHindsight[m]: also they mention a bad cable design
09:47 PM Tom_L: that's apparent
09:48 PM Tom_L: i'd blow both ends out good and give it another try
09:48 PM Tom_L: iirc he did have a recent storm
09:53 PM CaptHindsight[m]: lots of comments on how poorly they designed the connectors
10:01 PM CaptHindsight[m]: sounds like you need to have the dish in a spot that is easy to service or better yet weatherproof the connection better
10:03 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and of course it has to go down at the start of a holiday weekend
10:07 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://olegkutkov.me/2022/03/07/reverse-engineering-of-the-starlink-ethernet-adapter/
10:11 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://i0.wp.com/olegkutkov.me/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/starlink_repair_nov_4_2022_bad_spx_connector.jpg
10:12 PM Tom_L: looks kinda cheaply made
10:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the pins are so small that they burn up from arcs when plugged/unplugged while powered
10:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and the plating is so thin they oxidize when damp quickly
10:14 PM Tom_L: maybe he needs to check the cable a little closer
10:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: oxidize quickly when damp
10:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ^^ that pic has burned pins
10:14 PM Tom_L: i saw that
10:15 PM CaptHindsight[m]: they say to never mess with it under power
10:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: huh, and i was looking forward to using starlink some day
10:16 PM Tom_L: i'm on cable so i don't need it
10:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: now you have to read the blogs on them and take preventative action to get it to last
10:16 PM Tom_L: but it seems like the next best thing
10:17 PM Tom_L: skunkworks' dad has it
10:17 PM CaptHindsight[m]: maybe someone should sell a weather proofing kit
10:17 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah, i think his dad has and earlier generation
10:17 PM Tom_L: the POE pins are probably the ones that fry
10:19 PM CaptHindsight[m]: oh well, back to my problems, good night
10:19 PM Tom_L: later
10:33 PM roycroft: well, we just finished checking in ballots
10:34 PM roycroft: we had the highest voter turnout in our history
10:34 PM roycroft: tomorrow we count them, and then i can move on with my life finally
10:37 PM XXCoder: yay
10:41 PM roycroft: yeah, nobody in the universe will be happier than me when this is all over
10:42 PM roycroft: it looks like abom is ready to do his first real job on the flex cnc
10:53 PM roycroft: his fancy new machine is crap
10:53 PM roycroft: the z is off by 0.001" over 148"