#linuxcnc Logs
Feb 03 2023
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:59 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:33 PM unterhaus: okey, thanks
03:36 PM JT-Woodshop: yw
03:37 PM andypugh: https://youtu.be/GKm460QWupM
03:38 PM andypugh: Big bits of pretty wood
03:38 PM XXCoder: man crazy
03:39 PM JT-Woodshop: wow
03:40 PM XXCoder: joinery reminds me of that japanese one I havent gotten around to modeling
03:42 PM roycroft: purpleheart is an extremely durable wood
03:43 PM roycroft: those timbers probably cost him at least £1000 each
03:43 PM XXCoder: 6,000 so far
03:43 PM XXCoder: thats what he said
03:44 PM XXCoder: man even when I was working, at highest pay I ever gotten, I wasnt even close to being able to afford that lol
03:45 PM roycroft: a lot of people develop extreme sensitivity to purpleheart very quickly
03:45 PM bjorkint0sh: XXCoder, you're clearly not a crpytokleptomaniac.
03:45 PM roycroft: i'm surprised he's not using more ppe
03:46 PM XXCoder: researchers is starting to find out how allegries and stuff work, which hopefully means there will be method to remove allegries
03:46 PM bjorkint0sh: XXCoder, what, to move to a completely different latitude and longitude?
03:47 PM andypugh: He’s single handed across the Atlantic in Folkboat, he might have a different apprach to risk
03:47 PM XXCoder: no, bjork.
03:50 PM JT-Woodshop: nice video
03:50 PM andypugh: Yes, I watch them all and support on Patreon.
03:53 PM unterhaus: I wanted to buy a piece of baduk about that size back in the '90s and was afraid to ask how much it would be
03:55 PM andypugh: It’s a whole different sort of work. “This week, I might finish this joint”
03:55 PM unterhaus: convincing grub to boot the kernel I want is turning out to be a real thesis
03:56 PM * JT[m]1 uploaded an image: (415KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/TuYpXoeYtSpOOgkSiQnaBJxQ/20230203_155540.jpg >
03:56 PM unterhaus: when I go into the advanced boot menu it shows the rt kernel as the default
03:56 PM JT-Woodshop: one of these days I need to paint the ballista
03:56 PM unterhaus: but if the boot menu times out, it goes into the regular kernel
03:57 PM unterhaus: can you use the ballista to shoot pipe clamps?
03:57 PM JT-Woodshop: boot to rt then delete any others in synaptic package manager
03:57 PM JT-Woodshop: no it shoots aluminum bolts
03:58 PM travis_farmer[m]: it is now -14F outside, and wind still blowing hard...
03:58 PM * JT[m]1 uploaded an image: (388KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/AgplyhiNfdlkqwKvSufXlezA/20230203_155732.jpg >
04:02 PM JT-Woodshop: never finished the aluminum bolts just the wood one
04:04 PM XXCoder: yay new inheirance machining
04:04 PM XXCoder: been my fav since I was recommanded it
04:11 PM roguish[m]: andypugh: https://sfbayfolkboats.org/classifieds/
04:12 PM andypugh: I have friends looking at buying a folkboat. (but in Hamburg)
04:12 PM roguish[m]: andypugh: couldn't believe it when you mentioned a Folkboat. we have a bunch of them out here......
04:14 PM c101horse8332[m]: JT, are you around tomorrow for some more help? Im going to try and start from scratch on the pi, may(will) need some help along the way
04:15 PM andypugh: Leo (from the video) won “Yachtsman of the year” https://www.classicboat.co.uk/yachtsman-of-the-year/
04:15 PM andypugh: To quote the citation “To anyone who claims they don’t make them like they used to (people, that is), we offer Leo Goolden, hard-up boatbuilder who restored a Folkboat and sailed it to the Caribbean, aided not by engine and satnav but by scull and sextant. He won every race at Antigua Classic, then skippered a 95ft ketch to the frozen north.
04:15 PM andypugh: "
04:15 PM JT-Woodshop: c101horse8332[m], I'm in and out usually
04:16 PM andypugh: If anyone deserves Tally Ho! he does.
04:16 PM roguish[m]: I've sailed in Antigue Race week. an a big Swan boat.
04:17 PM andypugh: I have only raced a few times, and once came second. But that was racing from China to San Francisco :-)
04:17 PM XXCoder: only time I ever raced in boat was on dragon boat
04:17 PM XXCoder: that was fun
04:18 PM roguish[m]: andypugh: what race was that? never heard of it.... that's a long way....probably at least 3 weeks worth
04:19 PM roguish[m]: maybe 4 weeks.
04:19 PM roguish[m]: given the weather.
04:20 PM roycroft: i've only raced on bicycles
04:20 PM roycroft: and my longest race was from dekalb to normal
04:20 PM XXCoder: https://youtu.be/-SUlKLHaCXY to get idea on oregon dragon boat race is like
04:20 PM XXCoder: roy I suggest go look at one in least once. enjoyable
04:21 PM andypugh: roguish[m]: https://www.clipperroundtheworld.com
04:22 PM roguish[m]: holy crap....
04:22 PM XXCoder: im still sad I never got to actually race. I broke rib couple days before race itself :(
04:22 PM XXCoder: trained for couple months
04:25 PM roguish[m]: andypugh: got a few friends who have done the Whitbread and Volvo round the world races...... as much as I've sailed, it's always been close to land. I get sick as hellll
04:26 PM roycroft: i'd like to sail
04:26 PM roycroft: it's something i've always meant to do and never got around to
04:26 PM andypugh: roycroft: Do what I did then, throw money at Clipper Ventures.
04:26 PM roguish[m]: I have sailed the coast from San Francisco to Cabo San Lucas (tip of the Baja Penisula)
04:26 PM XXCoder: man I remember sailing once. when I was very young
04:27 PM JT-Woodshop: I used to sail up and down the gulf coast
04:27 PM JT-Woodshop: ran into an oyster bed one night lol
04:27 PM XXCoder: big brother program
04:27 PM roguish[m]: roycroft: find a Friday evening race and cruise the docks with a 6 pak
04:27 PM XXCoder: jt ow lol
04:27 PM XXCoder: got pearls to pay for boat repair? ;)
04:27 PM JT-Woodshop: cranked up the keel and got out of there
04:28 PM andypugh: I had never sailed before, I only got into it because I got talking to a friend from an _online_pirate_game and decided we should try it for real, and things escalated. She sailed all the way round the world!
04:28 PM JT-Woodshop: cast iron keel no damage to the boat
04:28 PM R5457[m] is now known as Rowow5457[m]
04:28 PM roycroft: that's quite the escalation
04:28 PM XXCoder: :)
04:29 PM roguish[m]: I did this regatta like 25 years ago. https://www.yccs.it/en/regattas-2022/maxi_yacht_rolex_cup__rolex_maxi_72_world_championship-329.html
04:29 PM roycroft: i wonder if that means my first time sailing might be an around the world trip
04:29 PM bjorkint0sh: millionaire sports.
04:29 PM roguish[m]: big fricking boats. crew of 30. no wimps.
04:29 PM roguish[m]: yes it is.
04:30 PM roguish[m]: spinakers were 4000 sq ft.
04:30 PM roguish[m]: boats 80000 pounds
04:30 PM roguish[m]: hella fun
04:30 PM andypugh: Oh, on a contasting note, saw this today: https://youtu.be/GtIQX9Yjpxk someone planning to cross the pacific in a 1m yacht.
04:31 PM roycroft: ups are here with a giant box
04:31 PM roycroft: what i am expecting from ups today is a diamond graver
04:31 PM roguish[m]: that's just silly
04:31 PM andypugh: roycroft: Why not? My friend Nina did exactly that. it’s not cheap, but at the same time you don’t have much chance to spend money on anything else that year :-)
04:32 PM roycroft: and yes
04:32 PM roycroft: what i got was a diamond graver
04:32 PM roycroft: in a giant box
04:33 PM roycroft: and it was not my cat that placed the order
04:33 PM * roycroft wonders if the tool is going to work
04:34 PM andypugh: This was my best-to-date: https://photos.app.goo.gl/GtVrhRRSLaSU4sj77 The contnents are on top of the box.
04:35 PM roguish[m]: andypugh: I'm on the boat with sail number K1015 https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/il-moro-of-italy-leads-ondine-viii-of-great-britain-and-matador-of-picture-id1531866?s=612x612
04:35 PM andypugh: Nice!
04:35 PM roycroft: there is a theory that amazon was secretly started by a group of cats
04:35 PM roycroft: and i find that theory plausible
04:35 PM XXCoder: boxes
04:36 PM roguish[m]: the owner was a tanker broker. his wife had like 5% of Pan Am
04:36 PM XXCoder: cats in human suit
04:36 PM roguish[m]: raced on that boat first in Hawaii. then Sardina, then San Trope
04:36 PM andypugh: roguish[m]: Not such a nice picture, but the bridge was the race finish line: https://photos.app.goo.gl/BjfdyahtNegzFPX48
04:37 PM roguish[m]: you on that?
04:37 PM andypugh: Yes, somewhere
04:37 PM roguish[m]: very cool. it's a great picture
04:38 PM andypugh: And I still love that high-cut foresail shape, it’s so elegant and classic.
04:40 PM andypugh: How do you get to be a tanker broker? I have met one, and you do one deal a year, pocket 1%….
04:40 PM roycroft: anyway, i have a diamond drag graver to play with now
04:40 PM roycroft: and my cat has a nwe big box that she's already playing in
04:40 PM roguish[m]: oh, yeah, dual headsails is the way to power reach
04:41 PM roycroft: so it's a win-win
04:41 PM roguish[m]: money begats money
04:42 PM XXCoder: too bad I dont have enough money and no money breeding program lol
04:42 PM andypugh: roycroft: Try makign the box progressively smaller: https://youtu.be/2XID_W4neJo
04:45 PM roycroft: matryoshka boxes!
04:46 PM andypugh: “I hate those Russian dolls, they are so full of themselves”
04:53 PM XXCoder: oh man been a while since last watched that box video lol
05:05 PM andypugh: XXCoder: It’s a classic
05:05 PM XXCoder: yup
05:06 PM andypugh: I want one.
05:50 PM unterhaus: I'm just breaking everything today
05:54 PM unterhaus: why would mesact be looking for a library in ~/.local/lib/libmesact
06:25 PM unterhaus: I'm old, I need my error messages to be red or something
06:31 PM jdh: I ordered 10 o-rings from Grainger once. They shipped 2 in a giant box, the other 8 in a padded envelope, from a different warehouse.
06:32 PM unterhaus: mcmaster gets around that by only selling packs of 100
06:43 PM unterhaus: JT your most recent mesact deb has a misconfiguration somehow
06:50 PM XXCoder: jdh: first warehouse is managed by cats
06:57 PM unterhaus: I don't think cats work at the RS warehouse because they would have sent a box that was easier to climb into
06:57 PM XXCoder: they can jump ;)
06:57 PM unterhaus: too thin
06:59 PM XXCoder: https://twitter.com/forecaster25/status/1621598650022363142
06:59 PM XXCoder: insane
07:00 PM roycroft: unterhaus: cats know that their human slaves will remodel their boxes for them
07:00 PM XXCoder: roy yep
07:01 PM roycroft: aah, what perfect timing
07:01 PM roycroft: my knurled thumb nuts just arrived from china
07:01 PM roycroft: i needed one for my vinyl cutter
07:01 PM XXCoder: nice
07:02 PM roycroft: and i was planning on working with the vinyl cutter this evening
07:02 PM roycroft: yeah, i got 10 of the nuts for $6, including shipping
07:02 PM roycroft: i only need one
07:02 PM roycroft: i got the vinyl cutter for free because the one nut was missing
07:02 PM XXCoder: welps time to buy 9 more vinyl cutters to use up those nuts
07:03 PM roycroft: yeah, time to get 9 more free vinyl cutters, so i won't have wasted $5.40
07:03 PM XXCoder: lol
07:04 PM unterhaus: with the rise of amazon, it's the age of cats
07:04 PM unterhaus: I rode my bike past a house in New Jersey where they apparently get all their meals from amazon kitchen
07:05 PM roycroft: don't kid yourself
07:06 PM roycroft: it's been the age of cats since 3000bc
07:06 PM unterhaus: but there are more boxes now
07:06 PM roycroft: and those are a fad
07:06 PM roycroft: cats will grow out of them
07:06 PM unterhaus: don't let your cat hear you say that
07:06 PM roycroft: in the '70s we had those at tunnels
07:07 PM roycroft: in the '80s and '90s kitty condos were king
07:07 PM roycroft: now, in the early 21st century, it's all about boxes
07:07 PM roycroft: just wait
07:07 PM roycroft: 3d printers are not yet in every household
07:08 PM roycroft: but once cats get them installed at every house, they will demand bespoke 3d-printed entertaiment devices
07:08 PM roycroft: and that's a double bonus for the cats
07:08 PM roycroft: because they get to be entertained watching the 3d printer make their entertainment devices
07:23 PM unterhaus: well, I haven't had enough frustration for today, so I'm going to try to get qtpyvcp to work
07:23 PM XXCoder: gonna meet that quota
07:29 PM unterhaus: forever optimistic
07:30 PM unterhaus: at least I won't have so much free disk space
07:33 PM unterhaus: of course the developer install instructions don't work
07:42 PM unterhaus: what's the qtpyvcp channel?
07:56 PM XXCoder: dunno im only on discord on qt one
07:56 PM unterhaus: yeah, there is no action on the irc
07:57 PM XXCoder: its fairly quiet. I see irc and matrix too since its also bridged
07:57 PM unterhaus: they didn't install the promised sim config
08:02 PM TurBoss: hello, sory irc is not bridged in #qtpyvcp:matrix.org
08:03 PM XXCoder: oh lol
08:04 PM unterhaus: TurBoss the configs didn't get installed from pip
08:04 PM unterhaus: what is the "qtpyvcp directory" the instructions speak of?
08:04 PM TurBoss: the directory you cloned it
08:05 PM unterhaus: I just did a pip install
08:06 PM unterhaus: couldn't get the clone thing to work
08:06 PM TurBoss: that version is for linuxcnc2 8
08:06 PM unterhaus: ok
08:07 PM TurBoss: oh then you need to install git from apt
08:07 PM unterhaus: I cloned it okay. I'll tell you my problem in a sec
08:07 PM TurBoss: okay
08:09 PM unterhaus: when I do the python3 -m pip install --editable it says it needs an argument for --editable
08:10 PM unterhaus: but I can't figure out what is meant by "source directory"
08:10 PM TurBoss: it needs a dot at the end
08:10 PM TurBoss: cd qtpyvcp
08:10 PM unterhaus: ic
08:11 PM unterhaus: I'm getting my eyeballs laser polished next week, maybe then I could see the '.'
08:12 PM TurBoss: python3 -m pip install -e . also works
08:17 PM unterhaus: I have a big monitor with very small font in firefox
08:19 PM unterhaus: well, it seems to have installed
08:20 PM TurBoss: great!
08:21 PM XXCoder: nice
08:24 PM unterhaus: it says I have a problem with my graphics card, but there's no error in the terminal
08:25 PM unterhaus: I would believe my opengl isn't good enough, but it doesn't say that
08:26 PM TurBoss: what have you tried?
08:26 PM unterhaus: now I have to remember what I found for c101horse
08:27 PM TurBoss: export MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.3
08:27 PM TurBoss: export MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=330
08:28 PM unterhaus: never mind I misread what it said in qtpyvcp test
08:29 PM unterhaus: except the opengl test fails because it can't find minigl
08:30 PM TurBoss: the opengl plot needs port to py3
08:32 PM unterhaus: okay
08:32 PM unterhaus: in the vtk plot test, should I be able to open an ngc file and run it?
08:33 PM TurBoss: yes
08:34 PM unterhaus: well, it ran into the machine limits
08:36 PM unterhaus: seems to work, but my simulated spindle is bent
08:39 PM TurBoss: how is that?
08:40 PM unterhaus: it said it's too big for the machine, didn't simulate bending anything
08:41 PM unterhaus: seems to be working fine
08:42 PM TurBoss: nice
08:48 PM unterhaus: where are the included vcp's at? Like probebasic for example
08:50 PM TurBoss: probe_basic has to be installed from git
08:52 PM TurBoss: git clone https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic
08:52 PM TurBoss: cd probe_basic
08:52 PM TurBoss: git checkout origin/python3
08:52 PM TurBoss: and the same for https://github.com/kcjengr/qtpyvcp.conversational-gcode
08:52 PM TurBoss: pip install -e .
08:52 PM TurBoss: for both
08:53 PM unterhaus: okay, thanks
08:56 PM Tom_L: unterhaus, hope that guy with the laser pointer knows his stuff...
08:57 PM unterhaus: he says he's going to pew pew pew and it will be fine
08:57 PM Tom_L: yeah, for him!
08:57 PM Tom_L: $$$
08:57 PM unterhaus: new boat payment baby!
08:58 PM Tom_L: not as bad as a ct scan...
08:58 PM Tom_L: those are up to 21k now
08:58 PM unterhaus: why is git asking me for a password
08:58 PM Tom_L: + gratuities
08:58 PM Tom_L: :)
08:58 PM Tom_L: because it should
08:59 PM Tom_L: did you sign out?
08:59 PM unterhaus: it says it stopped taking passwords a year ago
08:59 PM TurBoss: unterhaus: wrong url
08:59 PM Tom_L: no, i sign in every now and then
08:59 PM unterhaus: okay
08:59 PM unterhaus: they took it out on my birthday
09:00 PM unterhaus: I misspelled your name
09:27 PM roycroft: pizza is finally ready
09:27 PM roycroft: i was working in my shop, and got a late start on dinner
09:27 PM XXCoder: thanks. on way
09:59 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDWVJeAfc_I
10:09 PM XXCoder: dead tap into nut?
10:09 PM XXCoder: ah looks like tooling
10:12 PM XXCoder: some scary lathe ops
10:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: TurBoss: oh, while you are at it, can you port all the LCNC GUI stuff to use Vulkan? No rush.
10:51 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.vulkan.org/learn#key-resources