#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 20 2023

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:05 AM jpa-: nowadays when a wood splitter needs main ram replacement, you can't be sure whether to get out the wrench or the soldering iron ;)
12:47 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:00 AM travis_farmer[m]: G'Morning, 'tis snowing like crazy outside. only supposed to get a few inches, but the way it is snowing, it may dump on my area.
01:01 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:03 AM travis_farmer[m]: Hey look, the Discord bridge is back! and i just checked, and the "apostrophe glitch" seems to be fixed too! i believe congrats are in order, TurBoss :-)
01:04 AM XXCoder: lie''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s
01:04 AM TurBoss8676[m]: lul
01:04 AM TurBoss8676[m]: not fixed
01:05 AM travis_farmer[m]: Hmm, it was in my post...
01:05 AM XXCoder: copy paste my text to make sure its same charactor
01:06 AM travis_farmer[m]: lie''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s
01:06 AM XXCoder: matrix->discord is fixed it seems but not irc->->discord. aw
01:06 AM travis_farmer[m]: yup
01:07 AM XXCoder: awesome. hope it means irc source will be fixed soon also
01:07 AM travis_farmer[m]: halfway there, at least :-)
01:07 AM XXCoder: yep
01:08 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:08 AM travis_farmer[m]: now i can go back to daydreaming about my ModBus/Arduino controlled tool changer ;-)
01:10 AM travis_farmer[m]: hmmm, still dark out, make that nightdreaming... ;-)
01:34 AM Deejay: moin
02:00 AM travis_farmer[m]: Always seems like when i get a idea in my head, it won't go away until my mind makes it so complicated that it becomes impossibly expensive to build...
02:00 AM XXCoder: KISS
02:01 AM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, but simple isn't as much fun to daydream about ;-)
02:01 AM XXCoder: sure but then its less building more maching lol
02:01 AM travis_farmer[m]: perhaps, unless i am machining to build the machine ;-)
02:02 AM XXCoder: lol
02:04 AM travis_farmer[m]: besides, i don't have the right software (Vcarve Pro) yet, so all i can make with my machine is very simple signs, or parts to build more machine... i only have the free version of Fusion360 ATM
02:04 AM XXCoder: tried fcarve yet?
02:04 AM XXCoder: https://gnipsel.com/fengrave/fengrave01.html#step1
02:04 AM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, it will work for the simple signs
02:05 AM XXCoder: I want to try stuff but no damned room
02:05 AM travis_farmer[m]: how much room do you think i have in my current shop? i can only access the machine from one side
02:06 AM XXCoder: its infitely larger than my shop
02:06 AM XXCoder: which doesnt exist
02:07 AM travis_farmer[m]: even a bedroom becomes a shop, once there is a machine in it. ;-) nothing like cleaning the swarf off the bed before you go to sleep ;-)
02:07 AM XXCoder: hah
02:09 AM travis_farmer[m]: i started playing around with a little Chinese GRBL router. talk about literally cleaning the sawdust off my bed to sleep ;-)
02:10 AM jpa-: http://essentialscrap.com/cnc/room.jpg beginnings of my CNC adventures in 2014 were in living room also :)
02:10 AM jpa-: nowadays i at least have some more space at the local hackerspace
02:10 AM Deejay: thanks for mentioning fcarve/f-engrave. didn't know this tool yet :)
02:10 AM XXCoder: you have family or alone?
02:11 AM travis_farmer[m]: me? no family of my own. but i still live with my parents, as i can't afford my own place (ironically)
02:11 AM jpa-: i have family.. wood dust is ok, plastic dust and metal chips cause some complaints :)
02:11 AM travis_farmer[m]: lol
02:11 AM XXCoder: me either
02:14 AM * travis_farmer[m] really needs to finish building his new shop this summer...
02:16 AM XXCoder: nice
02:16 AM travis_farmer[m]: once my new shop is built, i can finally get rid of the old 29 foot gutted camper my machine is in now. maye i can donate it to XX for his shop ;-)
02:17 AM XXCoder: ha costs more to haul it here than its value
02:17 AM travis_farmer[m]: that is for sure, it has zero value (to me) ;-)
02:17 AM travis_farmer[m]: needs 4 tires too ...
02:19 AM travis_farmer[m]: new shop will be about 20 foot by 13 foot.
02:20 AM travis_farmer[m]: just a platform with a tent-garage shed on top of it.
02:20 AM travis_farmer[m]: i plan on re-doing the end walls better though, to keep the critters out, and the heat in
02:20 AM XXCoder: cool :)
02:22 AM travis_farmer[m]: then i just have to figure out how to insulate it so i can have heat and A/C
02:23 AM XXCoder: theres bunch of ways so dunno
02:23 AM XXCoder: "traditional" would be just that pink stuff
02:23 AM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, but being a tent, there are no studs
02:24 AM XXCoder: can use wood framing it. nothing perment
02:25 AM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, i will figure something out...
02:28 AM travis_farmer[m]: all i have available for heat is a 35,000BTU propane camper furnace, so it will need pretty good insulation to stay warm... ideal would be if i could get a mobile-home oil furnace, but those cost money i don't have
02:29 AM travis_farmer[m]: but i can use the camper furnace until i can afford the oil furnace...
02:30 AM travis_farmer[m]: but like JT said, once i get my machine so it can make parts, then i can make a little money to grow my setup
02:32 AM XXCoder: yeah
02:32 AM travis_farmer[m]: just curious, XX, where about are you? i mean, do you sleep? seems like everytime i am on, you are here ;-)
02:32 AM XXCoder: well yiou can do old style of "isulation
02:32 AM XXCoder: layers of sheets
02:32 AM XXCoder: im at tacoma. I usually sleep at 2 am
02:32 AM travis_farmer[m]: true
02:33 AM travis_farmer[m]: ahh, ok. so not bedtime yet ;-)
02:33 AM XXCoder: yeah
02:34 AM travis_farmer[m]: i go to bed around 7pm, as i am used to being up early. some of my best thinking is at night
02:34 AM XXCoder: I used to sleep at 4-5 am
02:34 AM XXCoder: becaue I finished work at 1:45 am and needed time so I dont get tired at work
02:35 AM XXCoder: but now well no job so whatever
02:35 AM travis_farmer[m]: we are in the same boat, job-wise
02:35 AM XXCoder: I dont know if I can work again ever
02:35 AM travis_farmer[m]: why?
02:36 AM XXCoder: permenent dizzyness, vision dont track
02:36 AM XXCoder: it makes it very hard to keep fit so im quite weak now
02:36 AM XXCoder: lower back just is nasty now
02:36 AM travis_farmer[m]: oh, yeah, that would do it. seems a little scary around a machine...
02:36 AM XXCoder: yah
02:37 AM travis_farmer[m]: i have degenerative disk disease in my back, so i know that feeling
02:37 AM XXCoder: me its just arthitis for around 20 years now. fun
02:37 AM XXCoder: gotten really bad last few years, I had to sit at work to avoid pain
02:38 AM travis_farmer[m]: nobody wants to hire a carpenter that can't go on roofs, or carry heavy loads...
02:40 AM XXCoder: sucks
02:40 AM travis_farmer[m]: yup
02:40 AM XXCoder: well I want to make my cnc router work again, and also 3d print and build millenium machining mill
02:41 AM travis_farmer[m]: what doesn't work with your router?
02:41 AM XXCoder: oh it mostly work
02:41 AM XXCoder: zI was still tuning it and making it work well when I moved and lost any space
02:42 AM travis_farmer[m]: ahh, that would do it
02:44 AM travis_farmer[m]: wow, snow is really coming down outside...
02:44 AM XXCoder: the solidifed water rain?
02:44 AM XXCoder: ;)
02:44 AM XXCoder: here it pretty rarely snow
02:45 AM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, i have family out in Washington state, that's what they keep saying
02:47 AM travis_farmer[m]: they live somewhere around Whidbey (sp?) Island
04:37 AM Tom_L: morning
04:52 AM solarwind: pcw-home check out this guy's boards: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001125245990.html I'm really liking what I see
04:53 AM solarwind: He designs them and makes them himself. Those are all amazing prices for those FPGAs and native PCIe
04:58 AM solarwind: Those FMC connectors are _expensive_ though
05:04 AM solarwind: I love those SFP+ cages
05:09 AM JT-Cave: morning
06:48 AM JT-Cave: Bleepshop, I have a couple of boxes of dc din rail fuses
06:50 AM JT-Cave: dc indicating fuse holders and ac indicating fuse holders
07:31 AM JT-Cave: Tom_L, https://forum.linuxcnc.org/10-advanced-configuration/38224-orient-component-revised?start=80#210991
07:42 AM JT-Cave: too bad it has issues...
07:49 AM travis_farmer[m]: well, just for experimenting, i am writing the Arduino code to control a matrix tool magazine changer. not that i am absolutely going to build one, just exploring the daydream. just to make the system safe and crash-proof, i am going to need a LOT of sensors and complicated code to read and double check everything... it is still an interesting daydream, but i can see a LOT of broken tool holder forks before i get the code working
07:49 AM travis_farmer[m]: perfectly correct. in reality, i can picture some sort of tool chain being more practical, or even just a carousel with 10 - 15 pockets. still ruminating on ideas, but i think the matrix magazine is a tad beyond what an Arduino is capable of. ;-)
07:54 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: A matrix changer is 100% in the capabilities of an Arduino. There really isn't that much processing power required. There is a reason that even the big players do a carousel or chain changer for all but the biggest systems.
07:57 AM travis_farmer[m]: oh, i know it is capable. perhaps i should re-word to the complexity to make it safe, may be more than the ATmega2560 has in program storage. though the stepper movement can be offloaded to another arduino running GRBL, and the master would simply have to send Gcode to it...
08:08 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
08:22 AM travis_farmer[m]: RANT: i remember when the USPS mail delivery people would deliver in snow, rain, whatever... my driveway has a whopping 2 inches of snow in it... we use the USPS Informed Delivery service, so i know we had mail coming, and yet the mail person refused to deliver our mail, due to the driveway being "completely snowed in". i don't remember 2 inches qualifying as snowed in... mail people are whiners these days...
09:26 AM bjorkintosh: you fellows know of a good tool management app?
10:06 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: For managing what aspect of the tools?
10:13 AM bjorkintosh: it turns out there aren't many freely available inventory management systems for machine tools.
10:13 AM bjorkintosh: I think I found something I can adapt.
10:14 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: SAP? 😛
10:14 AM bjorkintosh: better.
10:14 AM bjorkintosh: sqlite3
10:14 AM bjorkintosh: I mean, the data's already in there. It migrated from a number of excel sheets.
10:15 AM bjorkintosh: now I just have to slap a gui on top of it all.
10:15 AM bjorkintosh: lipstick on a p... pretty human person.
10:15 AM roycroft: travis_farmer: last summer i was pretty busy, and some mint was growing over the edge of the sidewalk leading up to my front door
10:15 AM roycroft: it was covering maybe 1/4 of the width of the sidewalk
10:16 AM roycroft: a substitute letter carrier was working the route by my house while the regular one was on vacation
10:16 AM roycroft: the substitute freaked out when he needed to deliver a parcel to me, and said he "cannot wade through a jungle"
10:17 AM roycroft: and left the parcel in the middle of my driveway, which is where he deposited parcels for the two weeks that he worked that route
10:17 AM bjorkintosh: s/cannot/would not/
10:17 AM * travis_farmer[m] is reminded that deleting a message on Matrix, does not delete on IRC ;-)
10:17 AM roycroft: that i involuntarily laughed at him when he told me that probably did not help
10:18 AM travis_farmer[m]: lol
10:18 AM roycroft: "through rain or sleet or dark of night (but not when things get a bit minty) ... "
10:19 AM roycroft: i did tidy up the mint a bit this fall, but it's growing over the edge of the sidewalk again
10:19 AM roycroft: i really need to spend some quality time on the garden beds
10:19 AM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, i remember when they used to wade through feet of snow... now they can't get over a couple of inches.
10:20 AM bjorkintosh: damned millenials. they just want robots to do the work for them!
10:20 AM bjorkintosh: I mean, I want a damned robot to do my laundry and fold it and do the dishes and whatnot. a robot maid, as a matter of fact. it's only reasonable.
10:20 AM travis_farmer[m]: ... ok, that's funny ;-)
10:21 AM bjorkintosh: to hire a millenial to do all that? that would be a veritable disaster!! Never!
10:21 AM travis_farmer[m]: ... as i sit here programming a device to do something as simple as change a tool... ;-)
10:21 AM bjorkintosh: hahah
11:38 AM travis_farmer[m]: thought i would post a video of the new worker that replaced me at work... i am not impressed with his blatant disregard for safety and lack of professional attitude: https://youtu.be/-e1_QhJ1EhQ
11:39 AM travis_farmer[m]: ;-)
11:40 AM bjorkintosh: damned millenials
11:40 AM travis_farmer[m]: i think he is even younger than that... ;-)
11:41 AM bjorkintosh: they just want robots to do the damned work for them.
11:41 AM travis_farmer[m]: oh, yeah, lol
11:42 AM bjorkintosh: don't get me wrong, I want a robot maid badly. doing dishes, sweeping up and vacuuming, taking care of the yard, and laundry.
11:44 AM travis_farmer[m]: i think really, some people are getting a little too complacent with technology. i mean, self driving/parking cars??? what happened to learning how to DRIVE a car?
11:51 AM bjorkintosh: travis_farmer[m], it's obsolete.
11:51 AM bjorkintosh: wait till they pair chatgpt with your helper and its opposable thumbs.
11:52 AM travis_farmer[m]: too much technology, i would never trust a helper robot... i have seen I-Robot ;-)
12:01 PM roycroft: if i'm gonna get a robot i want rosie from the jetsons
12:02 PM roycroft: best robot maid ever
01:36 PM travis_farmer[m]: dang, been working on a demonstration setup for my ModBus tool magazine... i have been staring at code for so long, my eyes are blurry. time to step back and work on something less intense for a bit ;-)
01:38 PM XXCoder: roycroft: veggies field with mint is soon mint field ;)
01:38 PM travis_farmer[m]: eventually i will need to build a full hardware demonstration to see if anything works...
01:40 PM roycroft: the mint that's sprawling originally started growing in a cut in half wine barrel
01:40 PM roycroft: it made an escape and is now trying to take over the world
01:41 PM XXCoder: yeah if I grow mint, it's going to be in small pot in mini glass house
01:41 PM XXCoder: im sure it would evenually escape but yeah
01:41 PM travis_farmer[m]: course, any tool magazine i make, i will need to somehow 3d print a grabber that grabs the tool holder by the taper and retention knob... i am so far not a good enough CAD designer for making 3d prints...
01:43 PM roycroft: my mojito mint does not spread like that
01:43 PM roycroft: but the stuff that is taking over is peppermint
01:43 PM * travis_farmer[m] needs to go out and help snowblow the driveway...
02:09 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, build after nap
02:48 PM * travis_farmer[m] is worn out, that snow was hard blowing (>32F)
02:50 PM * JT-Shop just got home
02:52 PM travis_farmer[m]: had a thought regarding the EMP from my VFD brake... it has vent holes to let the heat out. how much heat is generated? can i just wrap the whole thing in copper shielding tape, including most of the lead wire, and ground the copper tape? i mean, i need a brake, or i need a lot of time figured for the spindle to wind down.
02:54 PM roycroft: a vfd brake will generate a lot of heat by design
02:54 PM roycroft: why not, though, wrap it and punch holes in the copper shielding to match the holes in the brake?
02:54 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: No. That is a really bad idea. The braking resistor dissipates quite a bit of heat if you are stopping the spindle often. You should not need to wrap it in tape, something else is wrong with your wiring/routing.
02:55 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: This will do nothing at the frequencies involved.
02:55 PM travis_farmer[m]: ok
02:55 PM roycroft: zincboy is probably correct there
02:55 PM roycroft: i wasn't thinking about that - just the heat aspect
02:55 PM travis_farmer[m]: maybe the computer is just too close to the setup?
02:55 PM roycroft: if a braking resistor is working properly you should not be able to touch it when it's been doing its job
02:56 PM travis_farmer[m]: hmm, i have yet to feel heat from it. it clicks when the brake is applied, and then the computer shuts down
02:57 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: I have a overheat switch on my braking resistor that will trip at 150C. It regularly gets up to 100C if I am doing lots of tool changes.
02:57 PM travis_farmer[m]: i can actualy hear the emp
02:58 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Something else is wrong with your setup. Does the drive fault on braking? Or just the PC reboot?
02:58 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Is the PC on the same cct as the drive?
02:58 PM roycroft: you may have a braking resistor that's over spec'ed for your vfd
02:59 PM travis_farmer[m]: the drive faults if i set the brake % above a certain point (don't remember number) then the PC reboots, and i lose focus of what the spindle is doing
02:59 PM travis_farmer[m]: it is 75ohm, and the spec is 50ohm
02:59 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Okay, there is something wrong with the braking resistor. Have you measured the resistance?
03:00 PM travis_farmer[m]: pc is on same panel as drive, but not same circuit
03:00 PM roycroft: i don't know what the tolerance is for the spec, but 50% over tolerance seems a bit much to me
03:00 PM travis_farmer[m]: i will tomorrow, worn out and light is fading
03:01 PM travis_farmer[m]: thinking the resistor is shorted?
03:01 PM DigitalReaper: could the resistor be shorted to ground/case?
03:01 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Too high is fine. Too low and there will be fire. A higher braking resistor just means slower deceleration.
03:01 PM travis_farmer[m]: Hmm...
03:02 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Yes, if it was shorted to the case that could cause the symptoms.
03:02 PM roycroft: right, but does the vfd fault then because it expects to be able to dump the current faster?
03:02 PM travis_farmer[m]: it was 150ohm, but i bypassed one of the two series resistors
03:02 PM travis_farmer[m]: code is for over current
03:03 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Something is shorted in the braking resistor. or it is much lower value that expected.
03:03 PM * roycroft doesn't know, and should probably shut up about things he doesn't know about, and let them that know more answer
03:03 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Too high a braking resistor will cause a bus overvoltage fault. Overcurrent should not happen.
03:03 PM travis_farmer[m]: ok, i will make it first priority tomorrow to ohm out the resistor
03:04 PM travis_farmer[m]: as well as ohm out resistor to case
03:04 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Check between the terminals and the case/ground as well.
03:04 PM travis_farmer[m]: yup
03:04 PM travis_farmer[m]: i wonder if the ebay seller years ago sold me a bad resistor...
03:05 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: They usually fail open, not shorted. Anything is possible on ebay though.
03:05 PM travis_farmer[m]: i have a dump resistor intended for a windmill dump load, but it is far less ohms
03:06 PM travis_farmer[m]: 600W at less than an ohm
03:07 PM roycroft: that'll warm your room nicely
03:07 PM travis_farmer[m]: lol
03:07 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: That will not work. You can't go below the drive spec of 50ohms. Higher is okay, just with reduced performance.
03:07 PM travis_farmer[m]: less than an ohm is less than the 50ohm spec ;-)
03:08 PM travis_farmer[m]: unless each one in series ads up...
03:08 PM travis_farmer[m]: they are in parallel now
03:08 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Resistors in series add. Divide in parallel.
03:09 PM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, i know ;-)
03:09 PM travis_farmer[m]: i can take them out of parallel and make them in series
03:09 PM travis_farmer[m]: see what they ohm out to
03:10 PM travis_farmer[m]: they will need a shroud though... for shielding
03:11 PM travis_farmer[m]: but anyway, i gotta check the brake resistor first, see if i can save it
03:11 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: How many elements are in there? If there are less than 50 you won't get to 50ohms in series.
03:11 PM travis_farmer[m]: 4
03:11 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Don't need a shroud for anything other than protection from burns.
03:11 PM travis_farmer[m]: it EMI from it?
03:12 PM travis_farmer[m]: no
03:12 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Not significant compared to the power leads for the drive/motor and the drive itself. The brake chopper is pretty slow.
03:12 PM travis_farmer[m]: ok
03:13 PM travis_farmer[m]: but anyway, i will check the current brake resistor, and see where to go from there
03:13 PM travis_farmer[m]: tomorrow
03:14 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Ferrite cores on the power and motor leads work much better for emi suppression than shielding. Shielding is really hard to get right and hurts more often than it helps unless you really know what you are doing.
03:14 PM travis_farmer[m]: Hmmm, so i can't just clad everything in copper to solve it? ;-)
03:15 PM travis_farmer[m]: allong with my tin-foil hat?
03:15 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Nope 🙂 Need a mu-metal hat for this.
03:16 PM JT-Shop: well crap my wood has been moved out until Monday
03:18 PM travis_farmer[m]: really wish my new shed was done, so i could mount stuff better, and not so close to everything else...
03:18 PM travis_farmer[m]: the old camper is far too confining
03:19 PM travis_farmer[m]: this summer, i plan on selling my 5th wheel camper project for whatever i can get for it. just to build some money up
03:21 PM travis_farmer[m]: lol, anybody wanna buy a gutted 25 foot 5th wheel camper? ;-)
03:21 PM JT-Shop: $5 delivered
03:21 PM travis_farmer[m]: Hmmm...
03:22 PM roycroft: i'll give you $5.99
03:22 PM roycroft: delivered, of course
03:22 PM travis_farmer[m]: hmmm, i think after the delivery, i would have less than what i get for the camper...
03:23 PM roycroft: but you would have the camper out of your hair
03:24 PM travis_farmer[m]: i will probably ask $1500, or best reasonable offer, for LOCAL buyers ;-)
03:24 PM travis_farmer[m]: the act of selling it is to get shed building money, not to get it out of my hair ;-)
03:27 PM travis_farmer[m]: the other camper, the 29 foot tow-behind that has my machine in it, i do need out of my hair, once the shed is done...
03:27 PM travis_farmer[m]: that one i will give away to the first taker (no deliveries) ;-)
03:30 PM travis_farmer[m]: JT: what wood was moved out? like back-ordered, or like it grew legs and walked out of the shop?
03:32 PM JT-Woodshop: ups changed the delivery day
03:32 PM travis_farmer[m]: ahh, dang, that sucks.
03:47 PM roycroft: they just did that to me today as well
03:47 PM roycroft: but it doesn't matter
03:47 PM roycroft: ups delivery days are barely more reliable than usps delivery days
03:51 PM JT-Woodshop: both ups and usps local drivers are great to work with
03:51 PM JT-Woodshop: and reliable
03:51 PM JT-Woodshop: but they have to get the package into their truck first
03:51 PM roycroft: most of the drivers/letter carriers i deal with are great to work with
03:52 PM roycroft: but that
03:52 PM roycroft: yes
03:52 PM roycroft: once it gets in the truck everything is fine
03:53 PM travis_farmer[m]: not here, if you have a dusting of snow in the driveway, the USPS carrier won't deliver, as it is "impassable"...
03:54 PM roycroft: at least it's not minty
04:51 PM XXCoder: man I love inheirance machining channel
05:05 PM _unreal_: Bleepshop, I have not had a chance to look yet. I'll try this weekend. too many life speed bumps
05:18 PM * JT-Woodshop watches how to change C5 window regulator
05:36 PM Tom_L: debs are up
06:39 PM unterhaus: If I want to get a new version of freecad, should I uninstall the old one?
06:54 PM roycroft: on macos i can install multiple versions simultaneously
06:54 PM roycroft: which helps when i want to try new features that are in an unstable build
06:54 PM roycroft: i don't know if that can be done with other operating systems
06:59 PM unterhaus: apparently it's the same on windows, if they have a problem installing it next to an older version the installer tells you
07:03 PM roycroft: i think that for software that can be as much of a moving target as freecad sometimes is, it's important to be able to install multiple versions simultaneously
07:15 PM Rab: unterhaus, on Linux I generally run the prebuilt appimages, so it's just a question of executing one binary or another. I don't recall running into any configuration file issues between 0.17-0.20.
07:16 PM Rab: I also have whichever version Debian 11 ships installed system-wide, no conflicts there either.
07:57 PM XXCoder: part 4 of inclinoiclock out
08:49 PM roycroft: that's an interesting project, and i will probably watch more of that guy's videos, but the clock is pretty meh
08:49 PM roycroft: the design, not the execution
08:50 PM XXCoder: roy, hes great on arty stuff, less skilled on machining
08:50 PM XXCoder: still enjoy his video
08:53 PM roycroft: sure
08:55 PM XXCoder: last video I think he didnt use center cutting endmill so he had issue
10:06 PM _unreal_: heh so today was interesting.
10:07 PM _unreal_: one of the managers at work said it would be nice if we could make a Catch all for the drain on this ITEM that is being created.
10:08 PM _unreal_: well, is problem though was HOW TO MAKE a mold and do the fiberglass layup and all of this tuff. and I was like well its not hard. I can design it in cad, 3d print it. Then do an "INCLUSION" fiberglass job just vac bagging the fiberglass around the "form" to make the part we need.
10:09 PM _unreal_: He just looked at me drop jawed. "You ?? CAN DO THAT" !!!
10:09 PM _unreal_: My silent response was "palm to face"
10:10 PM XXCoder: your job is secure for now
10:10 PM XXCoder: lol kidding. good job
10:12 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCFfvmREacA
10:12 PM XXCoder: saw that yeah
10:12 PM XXCoder: crazy
10:12 PM XXCoder: I was worried till they added safety covers
10:13 PM Tom_L: you saw the 6 axis?
10:14 PM Tom_L: not as impressive as the others i posted.. all enclosed
10:14 PM XXCoder: by those same guys?
10:14 PM XXCoder: oh your son job shop
10:14 PM Tom_L: yes
10:15 PM XXCoder: im subbed to your channel so i either watched or it will appear in rss feed
10:16 PM Tom_L: just a pic, no video
10:25 PM XXCoder: lol ok
10:28 PM Tom_L: i was over dropping something off and saw it
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