#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 05 2023

12:00 AM XXCoder: oh he have done that for years I thinl
12:10 AM roycroft: really?
12:10 AM roycroft: i wonder how i never noticed
12:10 AM XXCoder: hmm WHILE machining is new maybe?
12:10 AM XXCoder: always been still shot before I think
12:10 AM Thorhian[m]: Do you mean while he is actually cutting?
12:10 AM roycroft: yes, this was live
12:10 AM roycroft: yes
12:10 AM roycroft: i mean, not while he's actually doing it
12:10 AM roycroft: but he projects in post-production
12:10 AM roycroft: so you see the outlines of the holes he's drilling, for example, as he drills them
12:10 AM XXCoder: that is probably new yeah
12:10 AM XXCoder: usually he just shows it on raw then it fades out and he makes i
12:10 AM roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3amYzlKs8
12:10 AM XXCoder: dont know if its new software or new process
12:10 AM roycroft: go in to 1;41
12:10 AM roycroft: 1:41
12:10 AM Thorhian[m]: Sounds like something you could do in blender without too much trouble.
12:10 AM XXCoder: yeah already found it, as I recently watched it :D
12:14 AM Thorhian[m]: The YouTube compression is also hiding the details pretty well.
12:36 AM XXCoder: other person on discord thinks its new too
12:43 AM isaacggw[m]: * How would i go about setting something like thing up as a tool height setter with lcnc? https://www.ebay.com/itm/26519116579
12:44 AM roycroft: i think i would have noticed it if i had seen it before
12:45 AM XXCoder: opps you removed one digit too many (8 at end) isaac ;)
12:46 AM sensille: i got that setter, too. it is huge on my 6040 :)
12:48 AM isaacggw[m]: So how would I go about setting up a tool height setter? (I am tired of measuring the tools manually and it is quite error prone)
12:50 AM sensille: i haven't set it up yet, but you can scroll up to where beef[m] describes to me how he did it. it was yesterday
12:50 AM isaacggw[m]: s/*//, s/26519116579/265191165798/
12:51 AM sensille: but currently i just use electrical contact onto a gauge block. that works fine, too
01:08 AM randy: morning
01:35 AM Deejay: moin
01:54 AM solarwind: CaptHindsight[m] apart from the dual full bridge, I don't want any of the control logic in that IC
01:54 AM solarwind: it doesn't actually do field oriented control
01:55 AM solarwind: It's just a standard stepper driver with no rotor position sensor
02:19 AM beef[m]: Do you have a probe too?
03:00 AM travis_farmer[m]: G'Morning, seems t be sleet coming down for weather, with a little snow...
04:42 AM Tom_L: morning
04:46 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:57 AM beef[m]: I wish we had snow here still
05:57 AM beef[m]: in PL it's just ... cloudy and warm
05:57 AM beef[m]: 🤮
05:58 AM travis_farmer[m]: i used to like snow when i was younger, skied, rode a snowmobile, made snow forts... now it is just work...
08:52 AM skunkworks[m]: rain for a few days.. Now snow.
09:10 AM travis_farmer[m]: looks like my new VFD is out for delivery today (evening). and my spindle will likely be here tomorrow. :-)
09:24 AM isaacggw[m]: Yep also have a probe but I’m not done setting it up quite yet
09:27 AM CaptHindsight[m]: solarwind: yup, just another stepper solution you can't buy right now
09:34 AM beef[m]: once you have the probe set up, you'll never want to go back. I don't even have to pay attention if my stock is squared or not to the machine just slap it down and probe the rotation
09:34 AM CaptHindsight[m]: that graphic overlay feature could be added to LCNC with openCV
09:34 AM CaptHindsight[m]: in the clickspring video
09:42 AM CaptHindsight[m]: it's a pretty simple blend
09:52 AM Loetmichel: Hmm... is there an english equivalent to "Grobmotoriker"?
09:53 AM Loetmichel: New Co-worker just ripped the head of 8 M3x4 Stainless screws off with the battery drill and phillips bit. So much for "delicate accelerator finger" he claimed to have. :(
09:56 AM skunkworks[m]: Loetmichel: probably just 'clumsy'..
09:56 AM CaptHindsight[m]: https://youtu.be/t7f1vy4gWMs might be of interest
09:56 AM roycroft: you can rip the head off an m3 screw by looking at it hard
09:57 AM roycroft: i tend to not use power tools for such small fasteners
09:57 AM zephyr9900: Loetmichel: maybe klutz
09:59 AM CaptHindsight[m]: I'd still blame it on the tool :)
10:04 AM roycroft: he did
10:04 AM Loetmichel: yeah, he tried
10:04 AM roycroft: he effectively called his new co-worker a tool
10:05 AM Loetmichel: until i showed him that you CAN use that drill to screw in the 142 screws into the monitor frame without ripping a single head off. Or damaging the phillips drive
10:05 AM Loetmichel: ah, that too, roycroft
10:11 AM Loetmichel: well, worse than his less than stellar coordination was his intelligence. Asked why he fiddled with the torque limiter ring on the drill he answered that the drill "gnarled" every screw so he turned the ring until it didnt. Will be replaced by another worker tomorrow though. :)
10:14 AM roycroft: "the tool was doing the job it was designed to do. i adjusted it until it no longer performed its torque-limiting function"
10:14 AM Loetmichel: roycroft: basically that.
10:14 AM roycroft: did i translate that correctly?
10:14 AM Loetmichel: Proud of it, too
10:15 AM roycroft: i've worked with that guy before
10:15 AM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: it's interesting that your boss is following the 1,000 monkeys method, I guess he still makes his profit goals. Has Germany run out of skilled workers?
10:16 AM roycroft: germany ran out of skilled workers decades ago, and has been importing semi-skilled workers for all that time
10:16 AM Loetmichel: CaptainHindsight: Temp agency. new boss is doing the "hiring by ordering a ton of temp workers until you find the one gold nugfged under the chaff" approach
10:17 AM Loetmichel: so far we had about two dowzen temps. of which 3 lasted longer than 4 hours and 1 of those three is now permanently hired
10:17 AM Loetmichel: -w
10:18 AM Loetmichel: Is "temp agency" the correct translation of "Leiharbeitsfirma"?
10:18 AM CaptHindsight[m]: yes, close enough
10:19 AM CaptHindsight[m]: laws and contracts vary
10:20 AM Loetmichel: the bad thing about the temp worker appoach is that you have to go through a lot of chaff to find one or two gold nuggets though.
10:20 AM Loetmichel: as proven above :)
10:21 AM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: in addition to the 1,000 monkeys we also have laws set up so that multiple temp workers are hired vs full time employees since temps don't get the benefits and protections that full time workers receive
10:22 AM CaptHindsight[m]: easier to fire, no benefits like health insurance, if you call that a benefit here
10:23 AM roycroft: it's called a "luxury" here
10:24 AM Loetmichel: Yeah, "leiharbeiter" work a bit different. They are hired to "normal" benefits and stuff by the temp agency and are "loaned" to the company that needs workforce. german law says max half a year in one place though
10:24 AM Loetmichel: point is that depending on the "loaning contract" the company that needs workers can say "this one isnt good, send me another one"... until they find one that fits.
10:26 AM roycroft: some of our temp agencies work that way
10:26 AM roycroft: importantly, temp agencies generally pay the wages to the worker
10:26 AM roycroft: some offer benefits and some do not
10:26 AM roycroft: but those workers generally do not enjoy any of the benefits of the firm for whom they are performing their work
10:26 AM CaptHindsight[m]: as long as the agency gets their cut
10:27 AM CaptHindsight[m]: casual Fridays?
10:27 AM roycroft: is that a benefit?
10:27 AM CaptHindsight[m]: free filtered water
10:27 AM CaptHindsight[m]: fewer beatings
10:28 AM roycroft: it's 30 minutes until popcorn time
10:28 AM CaptHindsight[m]: 7th time is a charm? Don't tell me what to do
10:29 AM Loetmichel: well, in germany those Temp agencys have a bad reputation because while they pay minimum wage for that job they usually try to cheap out on food money or commute money or basically everything else that is "benefits ordered by law in germany for everyone"
10:29 AM roycroft: if the seventh go is the same as the sixth and fifth and fourth i expect support for the wanna-be speaker to erode quickly
10:29 AM Loetmichel: so they tend to not have the "cream of the top" workers of any given job there.
10:30 AM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: well it sounds like your boss finds this process a bit too difficult to take on by himself
10:31 AM CaptHindsight[m]: so he uses an agency
10:31 AM roycroft: that saves having to staff an hr department
10:31 AM roycroft: but there's a lot of expense cycling through workers until a good one is found
10:33 AM * travis_farmer[m] wonders if FedEx will actually manage to deliver to HIS address, rather than somebody else's, as they seem to be doing...
10:33 AM roycroft: at least they're delivering it
10:34 AM roycroft: they've been known to just dump things off the side of the road
10:34 AM travis_farmer[m]: maybe...
10:34 AM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, i know...
10:34 AM roycroft: it's better that SOMEONE get it than noone, no?
10:34 AM CaptHindsight[m]: when Amamzon delivers other peoples stuff to me they say that I get to keep it
10:34 AM roycroft: legally you can
10:34 AM travis_farmer[m]: if i pay for it, i darn well better be the one to get it
10:44 AM travis_farmer[m]: Hmmm, interesting timing, FedEx JUST came... they picked up an outgoing shipment, and didn't drop off my shipment... clueless idiot!
10:49 AM CaptHindsight[m]: I no longer expect any UPS or FEDEX to arrive the day they first estimate arrival. It's usually -1 to +2 days.
10:53 AM roycroft: my shipment from mcmaster is still due to arrive today
10:53 AM roycroft: that is the one shipment that always arrives on time
10:53 AM roycroft: however, it is coming from fresno, and there are some pretty nasty storms in northern california
10:54 AM roycroft: 101 is closed in several places in humbolt county
11:08 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
11:23 AM roycroft: and here we go again
11:23 AM roycroft: we'll find out in a minute who today's not-mccarthy will be
11:26 AM roycroft: oh, it's the same old same old
11:51 AM unterhaus: did you see the pic of AOC laughing at gaetz?
11:57 AM roycroft: yes
11:57 AM roycroft: but her trollage last night was great
11:58 AM roycroft: after the premature adjournment she toured a local rum distillery
12:07 PM roycroft: looks like mccarthy picked up two votes - that still leaves him way short
12:16 PM roycroft: actually, he did not pick up any votes
12:41 PM roycroft: oh brother
12:41 PM roycroft: $FormerPresident got a vote for speake
01:26 PM XXCoder: roycroft: remember the part plan on block thing?
01:26 PM XXCoder: first one was series 3, part 2
01:26 PM XXCoder: but yeah not very common at all
01:27 PM XXCoder: "Patron Series 3 - Making The Dial Indicator Shaft Assembly" if youre patreon
01:27 PM roycroft: aah, thanks
01:28 PM roycroft: i don't recall that video
01:28 PM roycroft: but i'll check it out
01:28 PM XXCoder: welcome. think shorts was cut from that actually
03:33 PM Centurion_Dan1 is now known as Centurion_Dan
03:43 PM travis_farmer[m]: well, my VFD JUST arrived via UPS :-) still waiting on FedEx to deliver something...
03:50 PM travis_farmer[m]: Hmmm, FedEx has a map now to track deliveries. the truck has gone beyond the edge of town, and is heading away... i am guessing that shipment is lost :-(
03:58 PM XXCoder: roycroft: apparently abom disabled comments
03:58 PM XXCoder: wonder why
04:00 PM XXCoder: checked few previous videos, I dont see anything bad so dunno
04:08 PM * travis_farmer[m] is very pissed @ FedEx... lot of good my spindle is without the BT30 tool holder...
04:13 PM Centurion_Dan1 is now known as Centurion_Dan
04:44 PM solarwind: If I want to extend the shaft of a stepper motor, from the non-shaft end, what would be a good way to go about it?
04:44 PM solarwind: NEMA 17 - 24 size so torque won't be more than 3N•m
04:44 PM JT-Woodshop: buy a stepper with dual shafts
04:44 PM solarwind: I was thinking of putting it in the lathe and drilling and tapping a thread into a hole
04:45 PM solarwind: JT-Woodshop not so easy if you require certain specs
04:45 PM XXCoder: if I remember right shift is press fit but problem if you remove it to remove the shift, it loses quite a lot of torque if I remember right
04:45 PM JT-Woodshop: change your specs
04:45 PM solarwind: XXCoder I think you might be right
04:46 PM solarwind: But I don't need to remove the shaft
04:46 PM solarwind: I can turn it in place by putting the shaft end into the chuck
04:47 PM solarwind: I was thinking of just tapping a screw thread into the other end and then screwing in a shaft extension with some thread locker
04:47 PM zephyr9900: What do you want to do with the extended shaft?
04:47 PM JT-Woodshop: The magnets are "magnetised" with the motor assembled, and pulling it apart (pulling the magnetic fields across one another) likely scrambles the individual poles on the particles enough that it weakens the magnets.
04:47 PM solarwind: zephyr9900 optical encoder
04:47 PM solarwind: right, so torque requirement is actually close to 0
04:48 PM zephyr9900: Well some encoders use a taper mount and threaded hole maybe you could do the same
04:48 PM XXCoder: jt nice to know. I wonder how they do it
04:48 PM zephyr9900: I did that to one of my motors to mount a SICK encoder
04:48 PM solarwind: JT-Woodshop these are hybrid steppers with axial magnets
04:49 PM solarwind: zephyr9900 yeah, really doesn't seem like a complex operation
04:49 PM solarwind: Just stick the exposed shaft into the lathe chuck and drill a hole into the other end carefully
04:50 PM * zephyr9900 is looking for some pics
04:50 PM solarwind: The bigger NEMA 34 models are a lot easier, they even have what look like centers on the shaft
04:51 PM zephyr9900: https://photos.app.goo.gl/k2ZgbFtsiouWGjpW9
04:52 PM solarwind: zephyr9900 nice VFD, I wrote a complete library for that exact model
04:52 PM zephyr9900: The encoder shaft is hollow and has a tapered end to lock into a taper I machined in the end of te motor
04:52 PM solarwind: to control from LinuxCNC over RS485
04:52 PM solarwind: It's the GT series right?
04:53 PM zephyr9900: yes GT 7.5 ke
04:53 PM zephyr9900: kw
04:53 PM solarwind: yeah I have like 6 of those
04:53 PM solarwind: they're really good for the price
04:54 PM solarwind: I forgot if they can take encoder inputs
04:54 PM zephyr9900: I don't think so
04:54 PM solarwind: I run them in sensorless vector mode, which gives me excellent torque at low speed
04:55 PM solarwind: zephyr9900 what's the resolution and type of that encoder?
04:56 PM zephyr9900: SICK SRM 50 I think but It is only temporarily mounted in that pic. I did not actually keep it on the lathe. I want to use it where I can have a proper Hyperface interrace to get the multiturn abs pos.
04:57 PM zephyr9900: resolution it 1024 sin/cos wave cycles per turn
04:59 PM zephyr9900: I machined the motor shaft using a milling machine. I put the motor at the correct angle for the tapered hole and spun it using a DC power supply then went in with a tiny end mill to make the tapered hole. then the center of the hole is threaded.
05:01 PM zephyr9900: SICK and a few others use that taper mount system to lock the encoder shaft to the motor shaft. then the encoder has spring mounts for the encoder body to keep it from rotating and have play for shaft runout on the motor and encoder coupling
05:17 PM zephyr9900: solarwind I am using hy_gt_vfd.comp
05:25 PM _unreal_: latest updates to my design. https://github.com/berin-aquaquad/orange-pi-5
05:27 PM zephyr9900: _unreal_ nice
05:28 PM _unreal_: I just uploaded the latest CAD version
05:29 PM _unreal_: I'm currently waiting on hardware in the mail. before I can finish the design
05:34 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I need a bunch of sin/cos to quadrature converters, well not much need as to be able to more easily reuse about 100 sets of glass scales
05:37 PM zephyr9900: use a diff amp and then run output to a comparator.
05:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ic-haus makes a single chip converter
05:40 PM zephyr9900: sure does it just make the sin/cos into a quadrature of the same frequency? or dose it add some kind of finer interpolation?
05:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.ichaus.de/keyword/Encoder%20iCs
05:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: adds interpolation
05:41 PM zephyr9900: nice I will need to look into that.
05:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: heidehain still makes them for the 1v pp soncos
05:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: used on ebay are ~$100
05:44 PM zephyr9900: That is like the SICK SRM output signal
05:46 PM zephyr9900: so like IC-MG could be used to get much finer resolution. For the drives I worked on we used ADC and FPGA logic to do that.
05:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3APM2GvSlE
05:51 PM CaptHindsight[m]: if the AD is good enough on the teensy 4.0 this might be an option
05:51 PM CaptHindsight[m]: s/AD/ADC/
05:52 PM CaptHindsight[m]: looks like 10b if you're lucky
05:53 PM CaptHindsight[m]: IMXRT1060
05:56 PM XXCoder: roycroft: chris just confirmed, the full video the short come from was first time he used that effect and mill during effect stays
05:57 PM roycroft: cool
05:57 PM roycroft: did you let him know that it's a really cool effect?
05:57 PM XXCoder: yeah
05:58 PM roycroft: i don't like most of the fancy editing tricks folks do on youtube videos
05:58 PM roycroft: i especially dislike the ones that superimpose multiple copies of themselves in the screen and they talk to each other
05:59 PM roycroft: but that effect looks cool, and really helps clarify how machining operations work for non-machinists
05:59 PM CaptHindsight[m]: like devil and angel?
06:00 PM roycroft: well those can be funny
06:02 PM CaptHindsight[m]: just a few more mm, you won't hit the table
06:02 PM roycroft: eleven times now, one number has remained constant: 212
06:02 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yep, crazy as always
06:04 PM CaptHindsight[m]: how about we flip the news and only report when there is progress
06:13 PM XXCoder: roy multiples is funny but also meh
06:14 PM XXCoder: one woodshop channel guy often have one scene where line of himselves walk by and put down thing he needs to prep for next job
06:15 PM XXCoder: I dont like stuff that teaches people dangerous stuff
06:15 PM XXCoder: I remember one where guy was standing on lathe and moving tailstock in and out, chuck is spinning, and hes barefoot
06:16 PM zephyr9900: CaptHindsight do you know if ic-haus parts like sin/cos interpolators can be purchased in small quantities? It looks like they want you buy in tubes.
06:16 PM XXCoder: i just stopped video right there because I dont give views to guy who would evenually kill or maim himself daring stuff for views
06:17 PM XXCoder: (note he was moving tailstock by foot. it was insanely dangerous
06:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: zephyr9900: https://www.symmetryelectronics.com maybe here?
06:25 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: I am in the process of doing that on my mill. I have written macro functions that work the same way as the Renishaw probe macros on most machines. This allows easy integration with CAM software as they expect the probe functions to work a certain way. I also have tool setter functions. In my case, I would call G65 P9852 to turn on/enable the tool setter. Then G65 P9857 to automatically touch off and set the tool length.
07:08 PM XXCoder: interesting. saw pics of guy using bridgeport mill as grinder
07:55 PM TurBoss: hello
07:56 PM * XXCoder waves hi
07:57 PM TurBoss: got the pi 400 + esp32 running hurray!
07:57 PM XXCoder: saw that yeah cool
07:57 PM XXCoder: whats drivers>?
07:57 PM TurBoss: TB6600
07:57 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, https://github.com/berin-aquaquad/orange-pi-5
07:57 PM XXCoder: same as my cnc machine lol
07:57 PM XXCoder: nice
07:57 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, my own design
07:58 PM _unreal_: not finished yet
07:58 PM TurBoss: 😲! checking
07:58 PM XXCoder: unreal plan to add mount points for erm pci attachment of some kind? forgot what you wanted
07:58 PM _unreal_: I can. I'd just need dimentions
07:59 PM _unreal_: I have not built anythiung yet. I'm waiting on the heatsink right now. once I get that then I can finish spacing locations
07:59 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, got a link?
08:00 PM XXCoder: not at all. I was remember your early link pf rpi4 with some additional board in similiar case
08:00 PM _unreal_: I dont have an rpi4
08:00 PM _unreal_: ???
08:00 PM TurBoss: what rsdoc
08:00 PM XXCoder: didn't say that you have one
08:00 PM TurBoss: * what *is rsdoc
08:00 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, that is a cad document
08:00 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, READ the header document
08:00 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, it SAYS exactly what it is
08:00 PM XXCoder: it was case you wanted but for opi but there was none
08:01 PM TurBoss: 😲
08:01 PM TurBoss: ok
08:01 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, oh oh OH OH
08:01 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, again I'd have to have dimentions so I could build it
08:01 PM _unreal_: in cad
08:01 PM XXCoder: i guess. well its interesting
08:02 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, more or less the the rsdoc is a custom DXF like file but its a custom cad file format for designspark
08:03 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, IMO design spark is one of the best cad softwares out there
08:03 PM TurBoss: so there is no way to open it in freecad or libre cad
08:03 PM TurBoss: i like cimatron
08:03 PM _unreal_: sure.
08:03 PM _unreal_: just get designspark download it open it and output it in a different format
08:04 PM TurBoss: but the freecad skecher is better
08:04 PM _unreal_: IT CAN safe as different formats
08:04 PM TurBoss: ok
08:04 PM TurBoss: I'll try on wine
08:04 PM _unreal_: save
08:04 PM _unreal_: :S it might work on wine
08:04 PM _unreal_: but as I recall there are issues
08:04 PM _unreal_: I wish they made a linux vesrion
08:04 PM TurBoss: but requires many data to download...
08:04 PM TurBoss: :_)
08:04 PM TurBoss: ok no t a problem
08:05 PM _unreal_: i COULD output dxf formats but you loose all the 3D formats
08:05 PM _unreal_: dxf is 2d
08:05 PM XXCoder: techinically, it can be 3d
08:05 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, I'm not kidding designspark is amazing. little bit of a learning curve
08:05 PM XXCoder: but STEP is better for export and import I think
08:05 PM _unreal_: ... let me check the formats
08:06 PM TurBoss: STEP gave me good results while IGES not
08:07 PM _unreal_: .amf .dxf .obj .vdb .pdf .stp .skp .xaml ARE THE OUTPUT formats it supports
08:07 PM XXCoder: stp is step
08:08 PM _unreal_: SORRY stp IS stl
08:08 PM XXCoder: ah
08:08 PM _unreal_: SO THOSE are the outputs
08:08 PM _unreal_: which one would you like me to output to?
08:08 PM TurBoss: dxf plz
08:09 PM _unreal_: DXF is 2d
08:09 PM _unreal_: loose all the 3d aspects and everything will over lap
08:09 PM _unreal_: I can only output dxf as FLAT top down formats or NON extruded
08:10 PM _unreal_: can you open obj format? or STL?
08:11 PM TurBoss: yes
08:11 PM TurBoss: but don't worry I'm trying to install it
08:19 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, I uplaoded the STL version
08:19 PM TurBoss: thanks
08:19 PM TurBoss: great to direct printinh
08:20 PM TurBoss: *print
08:25 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, ?
08:25 PM TurBoss: stl is a great format to 3d printinh
08:25 PM TurBoss: s/printinh/printing/
08:25 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, that design of mine is for acrylic sides and the body is 3d printed
08:25 PM _unreal_: oh ya
08:26 PM TurBoss: noticed 🙂
08:26 PM _unreal_: I'm REALLY good at cad
08:26 PM _unreal_: thats not even hard stuff
08:26 PM TurBoss: what are your tolerances ?
08:26 PM TurBoss: 😛
08:26 PM TurBoss: 0.01 here
08:27 PM TurBoss: mm
08:27 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, https://photos.app.goo.gl/CuUszxKaFziVnQKX9
08:28 PM TurBoss: nice tool holder
08:28 PM TurBoss: 😄
08:29 PM _unreal_: Oh ya. I put that on thingverse
08:29 PM _unreal_: I've put a lot of designs on thingvers
08:34 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, progress?
08:34 PM TurBoss: i booted my windows laptop to install the tool and copy the instalation back to pinux 😄
08:35 PM TurBoss: now I'm curious about this tool
08:35 PM _unreal_: lot of help on YT
08:35 PM _unreal_: but I'm not kidding
08:35 PM _unreal_: I spent about 3 months with freecad and said F it
08:35 PM _unreal_: I own fusion360 I only use it for the cam
08:36 PM _unreal_: DESIGNSPARK I use for the CAD
08:36 PM _unreal_: I can draw in DSM 10x faster then I can in fusion
08:36 PM _unreal_: same designs
08:39 PM isaacggw[m]: I use Solidworks and NX. I tried using Fusion 360 once, and hate everything about it
08:39 PM isaacggw[m]: It is really hard to use
08:39 PM Tom_L: SW catia smartcam
08:40 PM isaacggw[m]: Nice
08:40 PM isaacggw[m]: I use HSM works plug in
08:50 PM roycroft: i did not find fusion 360 particularly difficult to use
08:50 PM roycroft: i just can't abide by its license and its need to call home
08:52 PM roycroft: i'll spare the channel my thoughts on freecad this evening, as they haven't changed
08:52 PM * CloudEvil thinks on the 'it just works' song.
08:53 PM TurBoss: Freecad sketcher and part desing is really good
08:53 PM TurBoss: CAM just has one or 2 years life
08:56 PM TurBoss: a nice freecad feature is the spreadsheet 🙂
08:57 PM roycroft: sw has that, and it can also link to excel
08:58 PM XXCoder: cad gang wars
08:58 PM roycroft: i'm actually behaving rather well tonight
08:58 PM roycroft: i'm still not discussing freecad :)
08:58 PM TurBoss: ⚔️
08:59 PM Tom_L: so unlike you :)
09:17 PM isaacggw[m]: And MATLAB (I use that a lot at my work for surfaces)
09:17 PM roycroft: perhaps there is a glimmer of hope for me
09:17 PM roycroft: i used to use matlab quite a bit
09:19 PM isaacggw[m]: lol
09:20 PM isaacggw[m]: SW is a light weight cad, so what does that make f360
09:22 PM roycroft: the two are fairly similar, in my view
09:22 PM roycroft: and i can do what i need to do with sw
09:23 PM roycroft: i don't need more than what it can do, and i don't want to pay more
09:24 PM isaacggw[m]: I use my work licenses so do not have to pay for it
09:39 PM roycroft: sure, and that's often the case
09:39 PM roycroft: but far from universal
09:40 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, progress with designspark? or my cad file?
09:40 PM TurBoss: no since i don't have a orange pi i didn't dig more
09:42 PM _unreal_: TurBoss, do you have any SBC's?
09:43 PM TurBoss: raspberrypies
09:43 PM _unreal_: ahh.. well RPI's already have a lot of PRE made desigsns
09:43 PM _unreal_: OPI5 is so new there is almost nothing for it
09:46 PM TurBoss: found this https://www.espressif.com/en/news/ESP32-P4
09:46 PM TurBoss: esp32 wifiless
11:07 PM pere: Is the feature described in <URL: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_i-qp6B5K4w > now part of LinuxCNC?
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11:56 PM TurBoss: 😲 nice