#linuxcnc Logs

Dec 22 2022

01:26 AM CaptHindsight[m]: Bleepshop: Orange Pi 5 4GB RK3588S US $68.00 + $12 shipping, in stock... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/7ee2f548c173885c2804c8cb90569ec291fe2b10>)
01:36 AM CaptHindsight[m]: latency is easily under 200K for Ethernet to Mesa, there is potential to use the 3x cortex M0 integrated micros (PRU-like) for all onboard stepping
01:40 AM Deejay: moin
04:22 AM travis_farmer[m]: G'Morning
04:27 AM travis_farmer[m]: hmmm, just realized the HTML header title, says "JT Logs", even though it is on Tom_L's server... odd ;-)
04:30 AM Tom_L: he rewrote part of it for me
04:30 AM Tom_L: morning
04:30 AM travis_farmer[m]: i figured ;-)
04:31 AM Tom_L: 4F
04:31 AM Tom_L: and windy as heck
04:31 AM XXCoder: I bet its pretty hefy too as cold air is more dense
04:31 AM travis_farmer[m]: 13F, and calm
04:34 AM travis_farmer[m]: real cold doesn't hit here until Saturday. friday we have temps in the 50's (F), and rain
04:35 AM Tom_L: windchill -21
04:35 AM Tom_L: Wind Speed N 29 G 45 mph
04:36 AM travis_farmer[m]: remind me, where-about you are
04:37 AM Tom_L: ks
04:37 AM travis_farmer[m]: ahh yes, that's right
05:13 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:36 AM travis_farmer[m]: if you want to see something (off-topic) impressive, check out YouTube for quenching an MRI. it is what happens when an MRI is permanently shutdown.
07:31 AM Tom_L: -3F now Wind Chill -28°F, Wind Speed N 29 G 46 mph
07:31 AM Tom_L: do not travel alert in place
07:31 AM Tom_L: hint: i wasn't planning to anyway
07:36 AM travis_farmer[m]: only traveling i plan on, is out to my shop, at some point. assuming i have any diesel left for my heater...
08:47 AM JT-Shop: I always welcome free firewood but it's so annoying when they help you by cutting the rounds into random lengths... oh well
08:49 AM travis_f[SHOP]: there, poured the last of my diesel into the heater tank...
09:10 AM Tom_L: warming trend... it's up to -2
09:14 AM travis_f[SHOP]: dang... ran a test laser ngc on my machine, with a scrap piece of birch ply... smokey!!! had to open the door and let the smoke out... as soon as it clears out, i think i will go back inside the house and design a smoke removal system... LMAO :-)
09:24 AM Loetmichel: travis_farmer[m]: wood isnt that bad... had the co-worker do a few 100 kapton tape cuts for insulating a PCB... and he forgot to put the exhaust through the window.... MAN that shop floor was eyewatering
09:24 AM travis_farmer[m]: lol, yeah, i bet
09:26 AM Loetmichel: his comment on me asking him why he didnt notice the "stink": "Well, i thought thats normal."
09:27 AM travis_farmer[m]: "normal" doesn't mean let it stink up the place! lol
09:29 AM travis_farmer[m]: kind of makes me wonder, how to vent smoke from the machine, without sucking all the heated air outside...
09:29 AM rmu: activated charcoal filter
09:30 AM travis_farmer[m]: oh, and just exhaust to the inside? sounds reasonable
09:31 AM Loetmichel: rmu: WAY to expensive
09:31 AM Loetmichel: probably easier and cheaper to just press the air through a water basin and let the water catch the soot and smoke
09:31 AM Loetmichel: (and regularily change said water)
09:32 AM travis_farmer[m]: Hmmm.. A-C is pretty expensive...
09:32 AM CloudEvil: Water can be very bad at catching carcinogens.
09:33 AM Loetmichel: CloudEvil: a dash of washing machine detergent takes care of that. (no dish detergent unless you want to have a whole room full of foam)
09:39 AM travis_farmer[m]: if i use say, a-c furcace filters, would one layer do the job, or would i need more? and about how long would a filter last? just trying to explore the option...
09:39 AM travis_farmer[m]: s/furcace/furnace/
09:46 AM CloudEvil: There are several things going on here.
09:46 AM CloudEvil: You have carcinogenic (probably) gasses, which the filters will do nothing for, and you'd need activated charcoal and probably a fair amount of it to kill.
09:47 AM CloudEvil: Some of these gasses will not be filtered well with activated charcoal. Particulates may be reasonably filtered out with AC filters, but particulate sizes can get quite small in some combustion processes.
09:47 AM travis_farmer[m]: a-c --> "activated carbon" ;-)
09:48 AM travis_farmer[m]: hmmm
09:48 AM CloudEvil: Ah.
09:49 AM CloudEvil: Properly seal the machine cabinet and vent with a high pressure blower through a relatively small pipe is another option
09:50 AM CloudEvil: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000890953760.html As one example does about 300l/min and 4000Pa or so.
09:51 AM Tom_L: Sorry, the page you requested can not be found:(
09:51 AM CloudEvil: ventilation centrifugal blower fan DC12V DC24V medical centrifugal blower for breathing machine CPAP respirator bipap is the title
09:51 AM Bleepshop: 1995 to 2005 Subarus use an air filter that is easy to adapt to a flat plate mount for a filter box. Or get the air cleaner box off of a 2000-2005 Forester.
09:53 AM travis_farmer[m]: the machine is large, and difficult to seal... so i am not sure that would work...
09:53 AM Bleepshop: travis_farmer[m]: Stick it in a big baggie? ;D
09:54 AM Bleepshop: I missed what the machine is. Just came back from a power failure.
09:55 AM travis_farmer[m]: https://www.tjfhome.net/community/index.php?threads/my-techno-isel-4-foot-square-cnc-router-table-build.16/
09:57 AM rmu: how expensive is cancer in the us?
09:57 AM travis_farmer[m]: very
09:57 AM Bleepshop: uuWell Hell, It's in a nice box. Thatyou don't want to fill with sawdust.
09:58 AM rmu: you could also use a heat exchanger
09:58 AM travis_farmer[m]: may be the only option
09:58 AM Bleepshop: travis_farmer[m]: Has that thing got a roof vent? Might be the place to mount a decent blower and just add a pickup hose running to the head.
09:59 AM * Bleepshop is misspelling like mad because the cat is inssting on helping to type.
10:01 AM travis_farmer[m]: hmmm
10:03 AM travis_farmer[m]: if i do something like a dust shoe, i could both feed and suck away the air around the laser...
10:05 AM travis_farmer[m]: using a CPAP blower...
10:06 AM CloudEvil: The above is only specially good if you want high speeds, or to exhaust through long small pipes.
10:14 AM travis_farmer[m]: yeah, for just the laser head, the CPAP blower will work, but not for dust when i run the spindle...
10:24 AM travis_farmer[m]: hmmm, a heat recovery exchanger is VERY expensive...
10:26 AM CloudEvil: I am currently making one from a roll of bubblewrap.
10:26 AM CloudEvil: Make tube of three layers of bubble-wrap, flows in one direction, out the other. Now roll up for compactness.
10:38 AM Bleepshop: travis_farmer[m]: My thought is bathroom vnt fan through a roof vent or a 4" dust extractor and plumb the blower outside and underneeth the 5th wheel.
10:39 AM travis_farmer[m]: the machine is not in the 5th wheel..
10:41 AM Bleepshop: Ah. Well mine is plumbed from the back of the table up to the light support and then out to the center of the table ~60" up. I can snap on a 2" shopvac hose and it's just right to get to any point on the table.
10:41 AM roycroft: my 3d printer is right next to a window in my fermentation/electronics lab room
10:42 AM roycroft: if i ever hook the laser head up to it i should be able to vent it to the outside pretty easily
10:42 AM roycroft: that would also require my building an enclosure around the printer, but that itself could be a benefit - i'd be able to heat the print chamber, allowing me to print abs and nylon
10:43 AM Bleepshop: roycroft: Did you ever see my Kossel build? I put it in one of the countertop Coke coolers to keep the cat out and hte heat in.
10:43 AM roycroft: no, i did not
10:44 AM roycroft: and oddly, my cat is completely disinterested in my 3d printer
10:44 AM roycroft: she loves to explore the room that it lives in
10:44 AM roycroft: but she's not even meh about the printer itself, even when it's operating
10:46 AM Bleepshop: This one sits outside the enclosure and plots a way in to grab the moving bits. LOL
10:47 AM Bleepshop: I'll set down a tool and she'll try to steal it if it's light or knock in on the floor if it's heavy.
10:47 AM Tom_L: tape it's paw
10:48 AM Tom_L: keep it busy for hours
10:48 AM travis_farmer[m]: lol
10:49 AM Bleepshop: It end's up like that bit from Guarians of the Galaxy with Drax and Groot. Stare, Freeze, Stare, Freeze, Stare, Freeze. LOL
10:55 AM roycroft: my cat is getting pretty old
10:56 AM roycroft: she still likes to chase laser pointers and is otherwise fairly playful, but perhaps the fact that the printer sits up fairly high on a shelf and the shelf is cluttered to the point that it would be hard for her to make a perch on it keeps her disinterested in it
10:56 AM Bleepshop: Probable.
10:57 AM roycroft: she still jumps well, but she likes a sure-footed landing spot
10:57 AM Bleepshop: I do know that the insulation, double pane glass and door seals keep the noise, smell and heat in and the cat, bugs and dust out.
10:58 AM roycroft: which is disappointing, as cats are sometimes most entertaining when they take a giant leap and the landing doesn't work out well
10:59 AM Bleepshop: Hit up the local Coke/Pepsi/7-Up/Monster/Red-Bull distributors and ask if they have an old cooler chassis they're going to scrap if you need one.
11:14 AM roycroft: an old front-loader washing machine would work if you gut it
11:19 AM JT-Cave: Plaid, did you upgrade to 1.1.2?
12:04 PM Plaid: JT-Cave: Nope. Working on getting my machine running :P
01:58 PM XXCoder: roycroft: https://youtu.be/ny5vGbTfB8c
01:58 PM XXCoder: the internet provides lol
02:01 PM sensille: CaptHindsight[m]: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/47730-new-project-litehm2-a-hostmot2-port-to-linsn-rv901t
02:05 PM zephyr9900: sensille nice
02:08 PM zephyr9900: Now it would be nice if the rf901 could have the function of a cut thru switch and then add ethernet to the STMBL and maybe all the I/O could be on 100 Mbit ethernet.
02:09 PM zephyr9900: Im really just dreaming but it would be cool
02:20 PM sensille: zephyr9900: go ahead :)
02:21 PM sensille: i'm not sure there's enough room in the fpga for 2x ethernet though
02:21 PM sensille: at least not with the current implementation
02:22 PM zephyr9900: sure but they do it with the simplifed etherent right?
02:23 PM zephyr9900: I mean they have 2 ports on the card so there must be some kind of macs for each in the FPGA right?
02:29 PM sensille: yes, the macs are in the fpga
02:29 PM sensille: and they probably don't have a hostmot2 in there :)
02:29 PM sensille: and maybe not even a cpu
02:30 PM sensille: cut-through is hard with a cpu anyway
02:30 PM zephyr9900: so how much fabric is left?
02:30 PM sensille: 12% currently
02:31 PM sensille: but lots go into the ethernet transmit buffers. for some reason they are not synthesized as block ram
02:31 PM sensille: there go another 15% or so
02:32 PM zephyr9900: well It is pretty cool that you got it working. :-)
02:35 PM sensille: thanks :) i think it's a pretty solid foundation
02:39 PM zephyr9900: I had another thought. Maybe an adjustable clock could be added so that the I/O card could be time synchronized using the the 1588 protocol to the linux computer. Making an adjustable clock is pretty easy and wouldn't take much FPGA resouces.
02:40 PM sensille: that alone doesn't help you much. i have no idea what you have to do on the host side to make use of it. for synchronization you have dpll
02:44 PM jpa-: time sync only helps with pre-planned stuff, for reacting to e.g. probe sensor or estop, you need fast polling loop
02:44 PM zephyr9900: yes the dpll kind of accomplishes the same thing
02:47 PM zephyr9900: the dpll is really providing a time sync function. time sync keeps the I/O updating at a more constant rate - less jitter due to communication latencies.
02:47 PM Plaid: I just got my delivery from digikey... Now that I'm looking at it, I iwsh I'd ordered more things from them.
02:47 PM Plaid: I should have ordered the connector!
02:51 PM zephyr9900: jpa- time sync is used for Ethernet/IP using CIP sync for coordination of many axis of motion connected using Ethernet. If every I/O devices knows the exact time then the coordination is better. Yes I realize this is way beyond what LinuxCNC currently does or needs but it would be a way to have each drive running its own position loop synchronized
02:51 PM zephyr9900: with the LinuxCNC master.
02:55 PM XXCoder: roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/@InheritanceMachining/videos might be good! someone suggested it on discord
02:57 PM zephyr9900: Also I think with time synchronized I/O the linuxcnc computer would not need to send read messages to the the I/O devices. these messages could be send at the I/O update rate or thread rate automatically by the I/O devices.
03:00 PM zephyr9900: XXCoder: I happened to watch one of those videos a few days ago. the one about precision machinist jacks.
03:00 PM XXCoder: yeah?
03:00 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/@joepie221 is one I suggested there
03:01 PM XXCoder: such a great channel. guy explains how to decide op order, how to figure workholding, etc
03:01 PM zephyr9900: He made a 4 TPI 3 start internal and external thread
03:01 PM zephyr9900: yes I also watch joepie
03:02 PM XXCoder: kinda sad to see some channels decline though
03:02 PM XXCoder: like myfordboy. hes doing only sponsored stuff showcases lately
03:02 PM XXCoder: still good videos but yeah
03:03 PM XXCoder: some channels I can understand, like this old tony. hes resolving issues in life
03:03 PM travis_farmer[m]: what about https://www.youtube.com/@travisfarmer216 is that a good channel? ;-)
03:04 PM XXCoder: not watched
03:05 PM travis_farmer[m]: all the channels being tossed out, just thought i would sneak mine in there ;-)
03:05 PM zephyr9900: hey did you take the windows from your camper and put them in your shop?
03:05 PM XXCoder: lol
03:06 PM travis_farmer[m]: no, my "shop" is an old camper, but not the 5th wheel
03:07 PM travis_farmer[m]: trying to build a new shop though...
03:41 PM unterhaus: travis, just subscribed to your channel
03:42 PM travis_farmer[m]: lucky number 14 :-)
03:43 PM travis_farmer[m]: and thanks, by the way :-)
03:43 PM Tom_L: dude you need a shop
03:43 PM travis_farmer[m]: no kidding!
03:44 PM travis_farmer[m]: i have the floor built. just waiting on more money to build the rest.
03:47 PM Tom_L: balmy 1°F out
03:48 PM travis_farmer[m]: even more balmy 28F here
03:54 PM * JT-Shop tosses a few sticks in the wrog wood stove
03:55 PM XXCoder: wrong wood stove? ;)
03:55 PM JT-Shop: china imitation logwood stove
03:58 PM zephyr9900: On my 3 axis Bridgeport still running version linuxcnc 2.4 (if its not broke ......) when it turn the machine on and home it it displays the G54 relative coordinates and if I never moved my workpiece I do not need to touch off - but I usually do anyway. Now with ClausingNC lathe and version 2.8 when I turn on the machine it displays the machine
03:58 PM zephyr9900: coordinates but then when I touch off a tool it then shows the G54 coordinates. How do I get it to display the G54 coordinates right away without touching off? I am using Axis GUI and I have the relative coordinates selected.
04:03 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/gui/axis.html
04:04 PM Tom_L: 13.7?
04:04 PM Tom_L: view_p
04:04 PM Tom_L: would be the current offset
04:04 PM Tom_L: i think
04:11 PM zephyr9900: That looks like a way to change the preview.
04:13 PM zephyr9900: It seems like it is not automatically loading the PARAMETER_FILE specified in the .ini file but then loads it as soon as I touch off. For example if I touch off z both the x and z coordinates change to the G54 values. This doesn't seem like correct behavior.
04:14 PM Plaid: Is there a cheap but decent pendant to use? Or do PS controller make decent enough pendants that I should get a usb BT adaptor?
04:14 PM Plaid: For the on-the-cheap home machine?
04:18 PM zephyr9900: So It seems like Linuxcnc is always forcing me to touch off. Maybe andypugh_ knows the answer to this.
04:32 PM andypugh_: I don’t recognise this behaviour. Which LinuxCNC version is on the lathe?
04:33 PM zephyr9900: 2.8
04:34 PM zephyr9900: I'm still in the process of commissioning / testing
04:36 PM Tom_L: zephyr9900, maybe in the [DISPLAY] section POSITION_OFFSET
04:37 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:37 PM Tom_dev: The coordinate system (RELATIVE or MACHINE) to show on the DRO when the user interface starts. The RELATIVE coordinate system reflects the G92 and G5x coordinate offsets currently in effect.
04:39 PM Tom_L: no that doesn't seem to do it
04:39 PM zephyr9900: Sure but why does the DRO show the machine coordinates until I touch off then switch both x and z to RELATIVE at once while not changing the display settings?
04:49 PM Tom_L: where is the default file location for AXIS gui customization?
04:49 PM Tom_L: i seem to have forgotten that
04:59 PM zephyr9900: I dont have an .axixrc file in my home dir. just .axis_preferences
05:01 PM travis_farmer[m]: Pizza!!! (time to sign off) :-)
05:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: we used to just call the weather today snowing, how did this get turned into some kind of calamity?
05:18 PM roguish[m]: CaptHindsight: media hype....
05:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: be wary of falling bone chilling frozen dihydrogen monoxide, it has been known to kill
05:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: many have also drowned in its melt
05:23 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and its low friction surface is to blame for many back and hip injuries
05:28 PM roycroft: the ice storm has not arrived yet
05:28 PM roycroft: it is late
05:29 PM roycroft: it was supposed to start at noon today
05:32 PM roguish[m]: Bay Area is just outside the zone
05:33 PM roycroft: we're in a hole right now
05:33 PM roycroft: just to the north, up through the olympic penninsula, it's stormy
05:33 PM roycroft: southern oregon down to humboldt county is stormy
05:34 PM roycroft: from the coast to eugene to bend is not stormy
05:34 PM roycroft: pretty much everything shut down preemptively here today
05:34 PM unterhaus: we got 6" of snow then an inch of rain
05:35 PM roycroft: i was wondering what was up this morning, because it was supposed to be -4, but there was no frost
05:35 PM * roycroft will not complain if he doesn't get the ice storm
05:35 PM unterhaus: then tomorrow it's going to be 3F
05:36 PM unterhaus: the good news is that ice at 3F is not slippery
05:36 PM unterhaus: bad news is that salt doesn't work below 5F
05:36 PM roycroft: the bad news is that at 3f the snow starts to melt a little
05:37 PM roycroft: oh, at 3c
05:37 PM roycroft: 3f doesn't compute with me :)
05:37 PM roycroft: that's like -15 or something
05:38 PM roycroft: -16
05:38 PM unterhaus: well, for you SI unit fans, 4F is 258K
05:38 PM roguish[m]: -40 C == -40 F
05:39 PM unterhaus: I rode my bike 10 miles to work at -24F
05:39 PM unterhaus: got frostbite
05:40 PM unterhaus: I got smarter after that, rode to work at -20F and no frostbite
05:42 PM roycroft: i should head to market soon, in case the ice storm does finally arrive
05:42 PM roycroft: and i don't need to stock up, because it's going to be warm tomorrow
05:43 PM roycroft: we're going from epic ice storm back to monsoon overnight
05:44 PM * roycroft is expecting another call from the attorney, but decides to go market anyway
05:59 PM JT-Cave: snowing pretty hard here atm
06:12 PM CaptHindsight[m]: unterhaus: Ive spent hours at -40C in very high winds
06:12 PM roycroft: perfect timing
06:12 PM roycroft: the ice storm just started
06:12 PM roycroft: and i just got home
06:12 PM CaptHindsight[m]: you just need an aluminum shell and some insulation :)
06:12 PM roycroft: the next time i go outside it should be raining hard
06:13 PM roycroft: oh, i take that back - i have a parcel arriving in the mail today
06:13 PM roycroft: so i'll have to go out in the ice storm to retrieve it
06:13 PM roycroft: but that does not involve my car going anywhere, especially near a public pavement
06:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: we aren't getting enough snow here to bother with snow driving fun
06:14 PM roycroft: and it's backed up far enough my driveway that the ice road slip-slider drivers would have to almost try hard to hit it
06:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: they plow too often and salt
06:14 PM roycroft: snow's a lot easier to deal with than ice
06:14 PM roycroft: i think driving in the snow is fun
06:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I'd have to seek out back roads that haven't been plowed
06:15 PM roycroft: it's -2 here right now
06:17 PM roycroft: then up to 16 by sunday
06:17 PM roycroft: that's shorts weather!
06:17 PM roycroft: and will almost tie the record high
06:18 PM roycroft: and an almost colorado-like temperature swing
06:43 PM XXCoder: here I see weather warning for tomorrow now
06:44 PM XXCoder: erm looks today? was sunny day
06:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: how do Canadians or Alaskans survive each winter?
06:45 PM XXCoder: set 90% of stuff on fire
06:45 PM XXCoder: seriously dunno
06:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: does everyone from the Nordic countries migrate down to Africa each October?
06:51 PM unterhaus: someone driving a truck towing cows crashed just around the corner
06:52 PM unterhaus: the fire department said they were okay, but I understand they went to live on a farm like our dog did when I was a kid
06:55 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so cows vs beef story
06:59 PM roycroft: some of the noric folks actually travel up past the arctic circle in the winter
06:59 PM XXCoder: roy did you see suggested yt channel link?
06:59 PM roycroft: no, i've been busy on the phone with attorneys most of the day
06:59 PM XXCoder: ok a sec
06:59 PM XXCoder: roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/@InheritanceMachining/videos might be good! someone suggested it on discord
06:59 PM roycroft: and i'm going to be talking to our board president again in a minute
07:00 PM roycroft: ok, that looks like it might be interesting
07:01 PM roycroft: i've bookmarked, but probably can't watch any of it for a while
07:01 PM XXCoder: I also suggested joe one but im pretty sure you know of it already
07:02 PM roycroft: joe pieczynski?
07:41 PM XXCoder: roy yeah
09:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QFwzx6LwS7Y
09:36 PM XXCoder: I love anti-shorts addon for youtube
09:36 PM XXCoder: I want regular viewer not that weird one for shorts
09:36 PM XXCoder: also, intresting
09:40 PM roycroft: aren't anti-shorts called trousers?
09:40 PM roycroft: or are they called skirts?
09:40 PM XXCoder: lol
09:41 PM bjorkintosh: pajamas, I'm sure
09:42 PM XXCoder: man so tired
09:42 PM XXCoder: went to exercise in form of walking around costco getting stuff I want
09:42 PM roycroft: it's icy here
09:42 PM XXCoder: felt like it was doing it for hours
09:42 PM bjorkintosh: they have scooters for such events.
09:42 PM roycroft: i'm not going outside again until it warms up tomorrow
09:43 PM XXCoder: but really just 30 min or so. legs and arms is fine, its my back that hurt a lot whole time. my brain is very tired by constant visual inference
09:43 PM XXCoder: roycroft: being a bear? ;)
09:43 PM bjorkintosh: backs hurting from shopping is a real phenomenon.
09:44 PM XXCoder: bjorkintosh: sure. for me it starts happening in minute or two
09:44 PM XXCoder: my back arthititis is very bad, plus muscles is very weak and need exercise
09:47 PM XXCoder: its damn near impossible for me to exercise now. I can walk and thats about it. running is right out, visual inference would mean I would fall over
09:51 PM bjorkintosh: cycling? rowing?
09:55 PM XXCoder: uh not sure why you think cycling is a replacement for running
09:55 PM bjorkintosh: stationary bikes?
09:55 PM XXCoder: it depends on seeing a lot more
09:55 PM XXCoder: ahh dont own one
09:55 PM XXCoder: dont have rower either
09:55 PM bjorkintosh: potential options, perhaps.
09:56 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://gizmodo.com/blu-ray-player-scanning-laser-microscope-hack-youtube-1849914455
09:56 PM XXCoder: cant buy one, maybe membership somewhere, but right now still negative income
09:56 PM bjorkintosh: hah! me too.
09:56 PM XXCoder: it isnt too bad, its still below monthly minium but not like zero for few months I had
09:57 PM XXCoder: I dont think I can ever work again
09:58 PM bjorkintosh: that really sucks.
09:59 PM bjorkintosh: sorry man.
09:59 PM XXCoder: nah its fine. im still working on having halth insurance in form of medicare so I can start working why I have those problems
10:00 PM XXCoder: major points is constant dizzyness, which causes me to have hard time thinking clearly, vision not tracking at all
10:00 PM XXCoder: my back is just aging thing
10:05 PM CaptHindsight[m]: XXCoder: do you know the cause of the dizzy and vision issues?
10:05 PM XXCoder: nope. dizzyness for over 2 years, vision not tracking for uhhh 8 months? year?
10:06 PM CaptHindsight[m]: oh so not Covid related
10:06 PM XXCoder: not likely
10:07 PM roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arpidGq8SlA
10:07 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I hope you figure it out and that there's some treatment
10:07 PM roycroft: he's in lub
10:08 PM XXCoder: hah roy. I also spot film reversal at end. out of footage too soon?
10:10 PM XXCoder: or maybe it reversed few times. since im not exactly equipped to hear it, I skipped though it
10:10 PM roycroft: yeah, sorry, no captions on that one
10:10 PM XXCoder: nah its fine. its bit funny
10:32 PM XXCoder: https://www.reddit.com/r/Machinists/comments/zt5wqh/did_someone_say_christmas_ornaments/
10:32 PM XXCoder: pretty cool