#linuxcnc Logs
Dec 21 2022
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:11 AM Bleepshop: This damned thing broke! Who do I complain to? No-One... LOL
12:32 AM roycroft: this is a great product! says no-one
01:16 AM XXCoder: tiny amount of snow here
01:41 AM roycroft: the forecast is for ice tomorrow night
01:42 AM XXCoder: here it seem to be just clouds
01:42 AM roycroft: this storm is a noreaster
01:43 AM roycroft: and that's where your winds are from right now
01:44 AM XXCoder: whats noreaster?
01:44 AM roycroft: it's an arctic storm coming from the northeast
01:44 AM XXCoder: ahh ok
02:15 AM Deejay: moin
02:37 AM Rhine_Labs: Ice snow here tomorrow also.
03:21 AM sensille: what are inm and outm? i/o ports that can only be input or output?
03:26 AM sensille: (as opposed to gpio)
04:23 AM travis_farmer[m]: G'Morning
04:38 AM Tom_L: morning
05:03 AM JT-Cave: moring
05:44 AM travis_farmer[m]: working on the configs for y machine in laser mode. when setting up for starting on a workpiece (wood), i can turn the laser down via PWM (it is setup as a PWM spindle) to about 20, and it lights without burning the wood, so i can align it (X and Y) that way. but for Z height, i was thinking of mounting my 3d touch probe beside the laser module at a fixed position, about 0.25in below the laser lens, and setting up a macro to touch
05:44 AM travis_farmer[m]: off for work height, with an offset, so after touch off, the Z will rise to the point where the laser is in focus. at least that is what i PLAN on working on today. :-)
05:56 AM JT-Cave: that's pretty much what I do on my plasma cutter, the head floats and I have a micro switch to touch off the material
08:14 AM travis_farmer[m]: well, time to head out to the shop and see what i can break this time...
08:26 AM travis_f[SHOP]: Hmmm, just noticed the post by JT, i wonder why it never showed up on my Matrix....
10:02 AM unterhaus: tomorrow's forecast: rain, snow, rain, snow. Fortunately no rain on top of the snow, but the high is going to be 4F
10:04 AM unterhaus: for you heathens that use Celsius, that's -15.5556C (accuracy is important)
10:04 AM unterhaus: but it's a balmy 256K
10:06 AM roycroft: we're going to have sub-freezing temperatures tonight and an ice storm tomorrow
10:07 AM roycroft: but the arctic storm that's blowing through is going to be brief - we'll be close to record high temperatures by week's end
10:08 AM CaptHindsight[m]: travis_f[SHOP]: the matrix bot isn't 100%
10:09 AM CaptHindsight[m]: some messages get dropped at times, it is just random how often and not many
10:10 AM CaptHindsight[m]: some times they get skipped or stop and then flood back in later
10:16 AM CaptHindsight[m]: I hope Noone becomes a very popular company just for the fun of confusion
10:19 AM roycroft: well i've done my part
10:19 AM roycroft: i bought something they made
10:19 AM roycroft: and i put their name on the map
10:19 AM roycroft: so happy christmas
10:20 AM CaptHindsight[m]: and merry new year
10:23 AM CaptHindsight[m]: Trading Places (1983)
10:27 AM unterhaus: I was very annoyed when I found out someone named a language "go"
10:28 AM unterhaus: as long as nobody names a language "baduk" or "wiqui" we're okay, I suppose
10:28 AM roycroft: is that any worse than a language named ((((((((lisp)))))))) ?
10:28 AM unterhaus: namespace pollution is pretty severe nowadays
10:29 AM solarwind: How are the profiles for screws made in production? That is, the phillips head/hex head/torx
10:29 AM solarwind: Punched in with a die?
10:30 AM solarwind: And what's the best way to make them as a hobbyist? Rotary broach?
10:30 AM roycroft: yes and yes
10:31 AM roycroft: well, i don't know about hobbyists making phillips heads
10:31 AM roycroft: but hex head sockets are often made with a rotary broach
10:31 AM roycroft: some hobbyists make them with a drill and a die grinder and a file
10:31 AM solarwind: Yeah I wouldn't ever want to make PH anyway. Ideally torx, but hex is fine too
10:32 AM unterhaus: I've made straight head screws with a hackasaw
10:32 AM solarwind: If it's one thing about (-) head, it's that it can be cut in one operation with almost any tool
10:32 AM roycroft: a drill and a cold chisel could be used as well
10:32 AM roycroft: slotted screws are pretty easy to make
10:32 AM unterhaus: invent your own style of head, everyone's doing it
10:33 AM roycroft: i have some slotting files
10:33 AM solarwind: And outer hex head doable with a mill and collet chuck
10:33 AM roycroft: they only have teeth on the edge
10:33 AM roycroft: and are made for cutting screw slots
10:33 AM solarwind: whatever the proper way is to differentiate between hex bolts to be used with a socket vs those for allen keys
10:33 AM unterhaus: I have some guitar nut files, but ain't no way I'm using them on fasteners
10:33 AM * roycroft has multiple sizes of five-sided bolts
10:34 AM roycroft: we use them in utility vaults
10:34 AM unterhaus: I have a gator grip
10:34 AM roycroft: it slows down the tweakers who try to break into the vaults to steal the copper wires
10:34 AM unterhaus: didn't buy it
10:35 AM unterhaus: I suppose gator grip is still in business because of tweakers who want to break into places with 5 sided security bolts
10:36 AM roycroft: the thing is - i don't have any copper in my vaults
10:36 AM roycroft: it's all fiber
10:36 AM roycroft: but tweakers don't know the difference
10:36 AM roycroft: and they'll cut fiber, thinking it's copper
10:37 AM roycroft: the whole business is just silly now anyway
10:37 AM unterhaus: that sucks
10:37 AM roycroft: i mean, besides the stealing being illegal and immoral and all that stuff
10:37 AM unterhaus: the people that buy that stuff are awful
10:37 AM roycroft: all our copper wires are now zinc-plated
10:38 AM roycroft: because there is zero resale value in them - if the wire is zinc-plated it costs as much to recycle it as the value of the copper
10:38 AM roycroft: so the scrap yards pay nothing for zinc-plated copper
10:38 AM roycroft: and the tweakers get nothing
10:38 AM unterhaus: someone broke into our neighbors cabin and took down all their copper they were using to distribute gas for lighting
10:39 AM roycroft: we also passed a law about 15 years ago that requires scrap yards to issue checks, not cash, for recycled copper, and to post-date the checks three days after the scrap is turned in
10:39 AM unterhaus: tradition was that they would start a fire and melt off all the fittings. Then take a nap
10:39 AM roycroft: which helped slow down the tweakers quite a bit
10:39 AM roycroft: this does not sound like it ends well, unterhaus
10:39 AM unterhaus: my neighbor had used press to connect fittings and they didn't melt off
10:39 AM unterhaus: so the tweaker just left all of it in the wood stove
10:40 AM unterhaus: which is almost worse in some way than if they had cleared it out
10:42 AM roycroft: if they had stolen it the insurance claim would have been easier to process, i should think
10:42 AM unterhaus: some rural Pennsylvanians see your cabin as their savings account
10:42 AM unterhaus: I don't think you can insure it
10:42 AM unterhaus: I wanted a cabin until I found out how much of a headache they are.
10:43 AM unterhaus: they steal any firewood, propane tank, whatever
10:43 AM roycroft: do all rural pennsylvanians have a funny dialect?
10:44 AM roycroft: i mean, i know about the amish, who speak english as a second language
10:44 AM roycroft: but i'm talking about non-amish
10:51 AM CaptHindsight[m]: why are wire thieves called "tweakers"?
10:51 AM roycroft: all tweakers are wire thieves
10:51 AM roycroft: not all wire thieves are tweakers
10:53 AM CaptHindsight[m]: how do you tell if your wire thief is a tweaker or not?
10:54 AM CaptHindsight[m]: I don't want to get this wrong
10:54 AM roycroft: you can tell by looking at them
10:54 AM roycroft: if you don't see them then you don't know for sure
10:55 AM roycroft: but it stands to reason that tweakers are more desperate than other wire thieves
10:55 AM CaptHindsight[m]: what are the visual indicators?
10:55 AM roycroft: um, sunken eyes, missing teeth, twitching, etc.
10:55 AM roycroft: you must not live in a rural enough area if you don't know how to recognise a tweaker on sight
10:56 AM roycroft: in case it's not clear, tweaker = meth addict
10:56 AM CaptHindsight[m]: that is like half the people around here
10:57 AM roycroft: ok, so you do live in or near rural america
10:57 AM roycroft: if you know someone is 23 and they look 53 they're probably a tweaker
10:58 AM CaptHindsight[m]: do they also ramble on about how things aren't free and Obama was a lizard alien, Hillary's emails and similar?
10:58 AM roycroft: i don't know
10:58 AM roycroft: i rarely engage with them
10:59 AM CaptHindsight[m]: nonsensical ramblings
10:59 AM roycroft: my usual strategy is to just avoid them, and call the cops if they look like they're trying to break into one of my fiber vaults
11:03 AM Deejay: re
12:16 PM unterhaus: amazon once again reminding me I threw away a vintage computer that commonly goes for $500 on ebay
12:16 PM unterhaus: not amazon, hackaday
12:20 PM Rab: Which computer?
12:21 PM Rab: I rue a lot of the old hardware I've e-wasted. 8" floppy drives I took apart for the leadscrews, now-collectible MFM HDDs...all gone, like tears in rain.
12:23 PM roycroft: i have a vt320 that i need to sell
12:24 PM roycroft: it's almost brand new, but it's also really old, and has yellowed
12:24 PM roycroft: i need to do the h2o2 scrub on it to make it nice and white again
12:24 PM roycroft: and then i can sell it on ebay for hundreds of dollars
12:25 PM roycroft: even i am not interested in such vintage hardware any more
12:25 PM roycroft: but apparently some still are, and i'm happy to feed them
12:25 PM roycroft: now vintage hifi gear, that's a different story
12:25 PM roycroft: but that stuff is still useful
12:25 PM Rab: I have a couple of VT420s in need of a home, one has new KB in bubble wrap.
12:26 PM roycroft: the keyboards are worth more than the terminals these days
12:26 PM Rab: The vintage hifi gear stays in my living room. ;)
12:26 PM roycroft: same here
12:26 PM roycroft: in fact, i need to get my mcintosh c28 serviced soon
12:26 PM roycroft: it will be gone for six weeks
12:27 PM roycroft: but i have an old tandberg receiver from the same era that needs repair
12:27 PM roycroft: i'm going to get that repaired, and then use it as my pre-amp while the c28 is in the shop
12:29 PM roycroft: https://www.ebay.com/itm/325298657714
12:29 PM roycroft: that's the tandberg model i have
12:29 PM roycroft: it was an outstanding receiver in its day
12:29 PM roycroft: it's sad that it's one of the models with the white backlights - the ones with the blue lights look even better
12:29 PM roycroft: but the sound is amazing
12:30 PM roycroft: and it's still an attractive machine
12:31 PM roycroft: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185661514582
12:31 PM roycroft: one of the blue light models
12:31 PM roycroft: the only thing i don't like about them is that they only have din plugs for the inputs and outputs - no rca jacks
12:40 PM Rab: Tandberg always made classy stuff. A friend of mine has this recorder: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I6wxW6oFN5c/YMaV9lPsOjI/AAAAAAAKb2o/MTx1ikpuafMEKHVMYFGAm7EouPz4aKNfwCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/IMG_20210611_230316.jpg
12:41 PM Rab: Gotta love the shifter knob, and the dual tuning eye tubes.
12:41 PM roycroft: yes, their stuff was pretty high end
12:41 PM roycroft: i used to work in a very high end hifi shop back in the '70s
12:41 PM roycroft: we carried mcintosh, crown, yamaha professional, etc.
12:41 PM roycroft: for the "low end" we had a lot of harmon-kardon and tandberg
12:42 PM roycroft: and, of course, we carried bang & olufsen
12:42 PM roycroft: no pioneer, marantz, sansui, or any of that bottom feeder consumer crap
12:43 PM roycroft: i still have an hk330c, which i think is one of the best low-power receivers ever made
12:43 PM roycroft: it's my stereo for my brewing/electronics room
12:47 PM Rab: My setup for a long time was a GAS Thoebe preamp and Son of Ampzilla PA into a pair of Dahlquist DQ-10s. The SoA is out of service waiting on output transistors; I need to borrow/build a high-current curve tracer for matching. OnSemi were kind enough to send a set of transistors as samples.
12:47 PM roycroft: nice
12:47 PM roycroft: i always wanted a pair of dq-10s
12:47 PM roycroft: they come up on auction once in a while now, but are usually pretty beat up
12:48 PM Rab: For now I just use an older Yamaha receiver, still with the DQ-10s.
12:48 PM travis_farmer[m]: where does Denon fit in the class of things?
12:48 PM roycroft: those speakers both sounded great and looked fantastic
12:48 PM roycroft: denon used to be above the crap like sansui and pioneer, but not in the same class a yamaha pro and tandberg
12:48 PM roycroft: but then denon became just another sansui
12:48 PM Rab: Hardcore enthusiasts will recap the crossovers and mirror-image the various drivers, but I have not done so.
12:49 PM roycroft: same thing happened with marantz
12:49 PM roycroft: marantz in the tube days was fantastic
12:49 PM roycroft: and in the early transistor days (late '60s/early '70s) was still really good
12:49 PM roycroft: then they decided to compete with pioneer
12:50 PM roycroft: rab: we did that back in the '70s
12:50 PM Tom_L: onkyo
12:50 PM Rab: Denon made some pretty good CD players I believe.
12:50 PM roycroft: well, we didn't recap, but we mirror imaged the drivers
12:50 PM roycroft: i'm pretty happy with my stacked advents
12:51 PM roycroft: but if i came across a pair of really nice dq-10s i'd grab them and do something else with the advents
12:51 PM roycroft: if your yamana is vintage from the '70s, and it's been maintained well, it's a very high quality receiver
12:51 PM roycroft: yamaha, rather
12:52 PM roycroft: we didn't sell many mac receivers like the 1700
12:52 PM roycroft: when our high end customers wanted receivers, yamaha pro and tandberg were what they usually got for higher power, and those brands plus hk for low power
12:54 PM Rab: Yamaha CR-620 IIRC. It's not huge, looks like 35+35, but we have to avoid waking the kids these days anyway.
12:58 PM Rab: The GAS equipment with the DQ-10s was an incredible combo. I could turn the gain all the way up and it was dead silent, completely undetectable as if it was turned off. Then I could start the CD player and hear the electrical noise the CD drive electronics induced in the audio chain.
12:58 PM Rab: Not an especially nice CD player, but I was still impressed.
12:59 PM CaptHindsight[m]: we went from that in the 70's to poopooing digital in the 80's, then at some point in the 80's and 00's everyone forgot about analog, and now analog is hipster and digital amps (pwm) are more efficient so better than analog, but I can still buy a $2k hdmi cable to get better sound
01:03 PM roycroft: the dq-10s like lots of power
01:03 PM roycroft: that's the one drawback of the advents
01:04 PM roycroft: but i have an mc2100 amp, so there's enough power for my living room
01:06 PM roycroft: the one problem with my c28 is that there is no remote for it
01:06 PM roycroft: i have to get up, walk across the room, and adjust the volume manually
01:07 PM roycroft: i should probably get an rpi and a stepper motor and build a little linuxcnc machine that will turn the volume control for me
01:07 PM * roycroft steers the conversation back on-topic
01:07 PM Tom_L: why?
01:07 PM roycroft: something to do
01:09 PM roycroft: tonight is longest night, so i need to start planning on what to do with all the extra daylight i'll be getting starting tomorrow
01:10 PM Rab: Happy Solstice!
01:11 PM roycroft: i wonder if vancouver will cancel the solstice festival this year
01:12 PM roycroft: since there's 40cm of snow on the ground already, and more coming today
01:14 PM Plaid: With mb2hal, for writing, does it try to write "MAX_UPDATE_RATE" times per second? So it's basically constnatly setting the value to the correct value?
01:53 PM XXCoder: roycroft: wow that much snow there?
01:57 PM roycroft: yeah, vancouver is pretty snowed in
02:05 PM XXCoder: sunny and still have snow on ground here
02:06 PM roycroft: it's cloudy here, but there should be no rain today
02:06 PM roycroft: the ice storm is supposed to happen overnight and tomorrow morning
02:09 PM JT-Woodshop: the new disc showed up today quite unexpected for sure
02:09 PM XXCoder: for me just partial clouds today, cloudy tomorrow, then small snow friday
02:10 PM XXCoder: cold today, 29f peak, down to 19f
02:14 PM XXCoder: jt fast?
02:27 PM JT-Cave: first email said June delivery
02:29 PM roguish[m]: JT-Cave: good afternoon. hey, I tried mesact for my 7i80
02:30 PM roycroft: that's pretty quick
02:30 PM roycroft: i hope it runs true
02:31 PM Plaid: Just a note with mesact, I don't know who to report it to... if you load up with an existing firmware, it doesn't repopulate the daughtercard section correctly.
02:32 PM roycroft: i tihnk you have reported it to the right people
02:32 PM XXCoder: jt nice. wow around 6 months earlier
02:32 PM Plaid: I have ot unselect and reselect the firmware. and then the UI is correct
02:33 PM Plaid: My use case was with my 7I96s, with my 7i77 daughter card.
02:33 PM roguish[m]: Plaid: best is to go here ..... and put in an 'issue' that way JT gets it and will work it.... https://github.com/jethornton/mesact
02:34 PM roguish[m]: it's easy
02:34 PM roycroft: yeah
02:34 PM roycroft: i suspect jt is busy installing and indicating his new sander disc at the moment
02:35 PM XXCoder: wouldnt it grind on tip od indictor
02:35 PM XXCoder: even if its not spinning
02:36 PM roycroft: not if there is no abrasive attached
02:36 PM roycroft: it's just a thin aluminium disc
02:36 PM Plaid: roguish[m]: Done. Thanks
02:36 PM XXCoder: ahh so it needs process to erm whats that word again? coat the surface with abrustives
02:37 PM roycroft: the abrasive is a self-adhesive cloth-backed disc
02:38 PM XXCoder: oh yes that type. was thinking tool grinder which has it on edge of disk and not on side. duh
02:39 PM * JT[m]1 uploaded an image: (254KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/dZTDYPhLSADXVqAZIWAqGUcn/20221221_143529_1995478850741150017.jpg >
02:40 PM XXCoder: nice. looks ready for table and such
02:41 PM XXCoder: same one that you sent off to refinish surface so its nice and flat?
02:45 PM norias: there are some people that think coal mining in PA stopped ( largely )
02:45 PM norias: because the coal was gone
02:45 PM norias: this is not true. As you can tell, the reserves are extensive
02:50 PM * JT-Woodshop is busy stopping an air leak in the machine shop
02:51 PM * JT[m]1 uploaded an image: (196KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/omgbMQylWEyipUDGlmgHAuKH/20221221_145111_1184551965095097092.jpg >
02:54 PM Plaid: It also doesn't require near the number of people it took 50 years ago....
03:00 PM norias: there's that
03:26 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:51 PM Plaid: JT-Shop: LMK if you have problems repo'ing it, and I'll put in a more detailed version
03:59 PM JT-Shop: I created a minimal 7i96s 7i77 configuration saved it, closed the tool, started the tool then opened the config and I can't see anything wrong
04:00 PM JT-Shop: version 1.1.2 build date 11/12/2022
04:01 PM XXCoder: it seems to be bug related to choosing board and daughner boards rather than config load and unload
04:01 PM XXCoder: ie if you change main board, it doesnt update daugher board list unless unselect it then select again
04:04 PM Plaid: Yeah, might just have been when I noticed it
04:06 PM Plaid: I'm on 1.1.1 When I start up the mesact, it opens, the configuration setup section is correct, the firmware section is empty
04:06 PM Plaid: And in the config section, daughter card dropdown is empty as well
04:07 PM Plaid: I have to change the board, then I can select the correct firmware/daughtercard
04:18 PM JT-Woodshop: you have load this config at startup checked?
04:18 PM JT-Woodshop: prob a few bug fixes between 1.1.1 and 1.1.2
04:18 PM JT-Woodshop: file download xxx.deb
04:18 PM Plaid: Yes
04:18 PM Plaid: It loads on startup
04:18 PM Plaid: (and I have the load this on startup set)
04:18 PM JT-Woodshop: install 1.1.2 and see if it's been fixed
04:31 PM * JT[m]1 uploaded an image: (270KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/nNaXROmxhLCSZNuHTqZFnGjV/20221221_163031.jpg >
04:31 PM XXCoder: yay
04:31 PM XXCoder: all safety up and ready to go
04:32 PM XXCoder: and tesyed!
04:32 PM JT-Woodshop: it has a very small run out like a couple of thou so usable now
04:33 PM roycroft: good enough for wood
04:34 PM * JT[m]1 uploaded an image: (293KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/NUgdIEoGRZpqnAWUEShbPxdk/20221221_163344.jpg >
04:34 PM JT[m]1: Now to make it round
04:35 PM JT-Woodshop: I know old iron would be more accurate...
04:38 PM roycroft: but it's still good enough for wood
04:38 PM JT-Woodshop: yup
04:56 PM Plaid: Is there any way to set the precision shown on the axis UI? .001 mm doesn't make any sense on my machine, it's only accurate +/- .1, so anything smaller then .01 is pointless.
05:06 PM JT-Shop: jog precision?
05:07 PM Tom_L: ice
05:10 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, nice zig zag
05:10 PM Tom_L: make it round!
05:13 PM JT-Woodshop: working on that
05:13 PM travis_farmer[m]: Supper (Chinese food) has arrived! signing off, until tomorrow :-)
05:13 PM JT-Woodshop: keep that ice shit in kansas
05:14 PM XXCoder: still snow with sun, some clouds now
05:15 PM JT-Woodshop: Dorothy can put ice cleats on her shoes to get home from Oz
05:16 PM XXCoder: dont think cn click heels with ice cleats on
05:17 PM JT-Woodshop: you have a point
05:17 PM XXCoder: meh just jump and click
05:17 PM JT-Woodshop: lol
05:24 PM Tom_L: heh
05:24 PM Tom_L: gonna get cold tonight
05:25 PM Tom_L: -1 predicted
05:25 PM roguish[m]: Tom_L: R u up in the midwest?
05:25 PM JT-Woodshop: we get that shit tomorrow night
05:26 PM roguish[m]: just spoke with my cousin in Chicago...
05:26 PM Tom_L: ks
05:26 PM Tom_L: hi tomorrow is at 12:01 AM @ 31F
05:26 PM Tom_L: downhill from there
05:26 PM Tom_L: 9AM 0
05:26 PM roguish[m]: ah, you're across the river from JT
05:27 PM Tom_L: over the river and thru the swamp
05:27 PM JT-Woodshop: yep looks like a bit of ole man winter blowing
05:27 PM Tom_L: to jt's house we go..
05:27 PM JT-Woodshop: missouri river?
05:27 PM Tom_L: i dunno, there's bound to be a river between :)
05:27 PM Tom_L: arkansas runs right thru town here
05:28 PM roguish[m]: oops, wrong directin
05:28 PM JT-Woodshop: current river, black river, and another I forget
05:28 PM * JT-Woodshop looks to the east to see the Mississippi
05:30 PM Tom_L: they were having trouble shipping up that river this year
05:30 PM roguish[m]: running a bit low. check out the Colorado river.....
05:30 PM JT-Woodshop: actually the Missouri river is the longest river in the us at 2,341 miles before entering the Mississippi River north of St. Louis
05:30 PM Tom_L: some had to get out and push..
05:32 PM JT-Woodshop: looks like the Current, Black, and St.Francis are the only rivers between me and Tom
05:32 PM JT-Woodshop: unless your on the west side of the Arkansas river
05:32 PM Tom_L: just barely but yes
05:33 PM JT-Woodshop: ok 4 rivers you must swim lol
05:33 PM JT-Woodshop: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Mo_rivers2.png
05:34 PM Tom_L: within walking distance
05:34 PM JT-Woodshop: hmm the black and st francis is east of me so easier time only 2 rivers
05:35 PM Tom_L: they don't discriminate.. one branch is white and one is black
05:35 PM * JT-Woodshop is not getting anything done lol
06:59 PM Plaid: I'm working on setting up homing, and it keep crashing into the end, instead of detecting the limit switch. I've got the encoder hooked up to the joint's Positive endstop (I'm doing my Z axis first). I've got the search velocity set to a postiive number. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong? Should my end switch be connected to the axis's pos end stop, not the joints? Something else?
07:04 PM Plaid: the limit switch works according to the hal monitor, and I get a limit error once it crashes, and have to hit the limit override button to turn the machine on
07:05 PM Tom_L: tip: if possible trip the limit with your finger etc before it crashes until you know they're set for the right direction etc
07:06 PM Plaid: I have my homing speed set rather low, and finger on the e-stop. I don't want my fingers near the machine :P
07:07 PM Tom_L: i use debounce on my limits but here's how i do it: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/NEW_MILL_SHOP_2.8.2/new_mill.hal
07:07 PM Tom_L: about 2/3 the way down
07:07 PM Tom_L: or just search 'limit'
07:08 PM Tom_L: physical pin => joint.0.home-sw-in joint.0.pos-lim-sw-in
07:08 PM Plaid: Ah, I connected to pos-sw-in
07:09 PM Tom_L: i use mine for home and limit
07:09 PM Tom_L: so you need to back off the switch a tiny bit
07:09 PM Plaid: yeah, but the homing procedure probably uses home :P
07:09 PM Tom_L: that's in the ini
07:09 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/NEW_MILL_SHOP_2.8.2/new_mill.ini
07:10 PM Tom_L: check the home settings in each axis
07:11 PM Plaid: Yeah, I just need to connect my sensor to the home-sw-in
07:12 PM Tom_L: notice my HOME_LATCH_VEL is negative
07:12 PM Tom_L: to back off the switch slightly
07:14 PM Tom_L: (use a stick etc if you don't wanna use your finger)
07:15 PM Tom_L: just to test they are doing what you expect
07:23 PM Plaid: I've got it working now. I just had my HAL setup wrong. Got it fixed, Z now homes
07:25 PM Tom_L: good
07:33 PM Plaid: I spent a lot of time reading the config doc, I just had the wrong pins setup
09:22 PM Bleepshop: I wonder what the latency on one of these would be if it was feeding a 7i96s? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BG4GBGR9/
09:24 PM XXCoder: theres upcoming new orange pi 5
09:26 PM Bleepshop: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BLYCYBGD/
09:26 PM Bleepshop: And theere it is.
09:29 PM Bleepshop: But I was looking at 1080p max for the UI so I was wondering about the keyboard version.
09:29 PM XXCoder: dont know how compitable keyboard/case is
09:30 PM Bleepshop: XXCoder: That's a whole machine. Add a monitor and mouese to that keyboard. LOL
09:31 PM XXCoder: well yes
09:31 PM XXCoder: im talking about interior design
09:31 PM XXCoder: I dont know if you could fit orange pi 5 in one of those
09:31 PM * Bleepshop needs a new PC keyboard.
09:31 PM XXCoder: my keyboard is nearly 15 years old
09:32 PM Bleepshop: Or I need to hose this one out with a can of QD.
09:32 PM Bleepshop: No clue how old this one is. It's been out in the shop for at least 2 years.
09:33 PM XXCoder: I know mine because im one who bought it lol
09:33 PM XXCoder: its been with 4 pcs since I bought it
09:36 PM XXCoder: anyway dunno on those orange pi case design
09:36 PM Bleepshop: Old, beater, Dell KB212-B. I used it for gaming for ~ 5 years before that and before that it was picked up at the state surplus sale.
09:36 PM XXCoder: rpi4 uses different board for rpi version of those "all in one"
09:37 PM XXCoder: I think?
09:37 PM Bleepshop: XXCoder: I thought Pi4 used a daughtercard for the keyboard version.
09:38 PM XXCoder: hmm maybe?
09:38 PM XXCoder: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OqpylxLhw98/maxresdefault.jpg
09:40 PM Bleepshop: Doesen't matter. I was going to leave it in the shell and feed it's ethernet to a 7i96s.
09:40 PM XXCoder: yeah dunno if theres distro that can be used with linuxcnc for orange pi
09:41 PM Bleepshop: Be amusing to try. LOL
09:41 PM * Bleepshop is trying to decide what to feed a 7i96s with.
09:41 PM XXCoder: yeah run cnc with something that looks kinda like modern commandre 64 lol
09:42 PM Bleepshop: I remember 80286 and 80386 machines in that format as well for thin clients.
09:43 PM Bleepshop: Hell some of the HP [IIRC] thin clients are full Core2 Duo machines.
09:44 PM Bleepshop: Stuff in an SSD and 8gb of laptop RAM and you've got a little screamer.
09:45 PM XXCoder: lol
09:50 PM Bleepshop: XXCoder: I showed the boss the Mesa site today and told him never to let me near his credit card with that site open. He'd come in and find that brain-dead Incon ME3 sticking out of a trash can and the mill would know a lot of new tricks. LOL
09:51 PM XXCoder: interesting
09:51 PM Bleepshop: Freaking thing can't even handle variables. :[
09:51 PM XXCoder: so you work for company using basically homebrews?
09:51 PM XXCoder: if I recall right you got hired few months ago
09:55 PM Bleepshop: We've got a Limtech Orion 5x10 at work but the controller is a total toad and to top it off the boss is wanting to to use a copy of Aspire 8.0 to generate code.
09:56 PM Bleepshop: Aspire 8.0. Ass Pyre. Because it really burns my ass that it wants to plot each and every point to cut a circle resulting in reams of code to do a simple G02/G03. LMAO
09:56 PM XXCoder: no g2 g3 support?
09:57 PM Bleepshop: You don't even want to know what it does to a simple rectangle imported as a DXF.
09:58 PM XXCoder: as well as hand code it
09:58 PM Bleepshop: The machine understands it just fine along with M98/M99 and a few others but Aspire is a total toad for code.
09:59 PM Bleepshop: I can do in 5 lines of code what it takes Aspire a couple of thousand lines to struggle through.
10:00 PM XXCoder: geez
10:00 PM XXCoder: you did get hired few months ago right? or maybe im thinking of someone else
10:02 PM Bleepshop: <2kb for my code to cut a 43" dia table top 1.5" thick at 0.125" DOC. Aspire spit out >280kb. Gag me with analog integrator. LOL
10:02 PM Bleepshop: XXCoder: Yeah, Ive been there for over a year.
10:03 PM XXCoder: already wow
10:03 PM XXCoder: times so fast when youre jobless bum
10:04 PM Bleepshop: Got told not to show up tomorrow. Told to go to the airport instead. Got to fix the flightline tug the boss bought at auction. LOL
10:04 PM XXCoder: geez
10:05 PM Bleepshop: Severely mutated 1986 Chrysler Caravan drivetrain..
10:05 PM Bleepshop: Beats listening to the 6 head molder scream all afternoon. LOL
10:05 PM XXCoder: sounds like using employees for personal stuff
10:06 PM Bleepshop: Company plane.
10:07 PM XXCoder: ahh ok
10:07 PM XXCoder: cimpany you workf or must be a lot bigger company than one I last worked at
10:07 PM Bleepshop: He got the tug because the tote-goat takes forever to get the plane out of the hanger and has 0 0traction in hte hanger.
10:08 PM Bleepshop: We've got floors and wall installations alll over the world.
10:09 PM XXCoder: wow big allright lol
10:10 PM Bleepshop: MoMA in NYC, Dubai, lots of others.
10:13 PM Bleepshop: XXCoder: https://www.oldwood.us/international-projects
10:13 PM XXCoder: wood products eh
10:16 PM Bleepshop: Yeah. I'm dragging them kicking and screaming into the late 20'th century for compositing techniques. LMAO
10:17 PM Bleepshop: I built a vacuum bagger last week and turned out a sample of fiberglass laminated to prove it would be quick and easy.
10:19 PM Bleepshop: Gonna show him the Axe's Garage, veneered, BMW hood that looks like it belongs in the dash of an old Jaguar or Dusenburg.
10:22 PM Bleepshop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPSnpIYbLJE
10:24 PM XXCoder: interesting
10:37 PM Tom_L: andypugh_, did the fix for #2169 make it into 2.8.4?
10:37 PM Tom_L: or just 2.10
10:42 PM Tom_L: odd that would affect G2 and not G3