#linuxcnc Logs
Oct 13 2022
#linuxcnc Calendar
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01:35 AM solarwind: ZincBoy[CAON][m] this is a damn fine price for an integrated servo: https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/ac-servo-motors/400w-nema24-kl-4048h
01:36 AM solarwind: Really need that 2.4N•m of torque
01:38 AM solarwind: The clearpath MCVC series (velocity/torque control) seem to be the cheapest so they're not outrageously priced: https://teknic.com/products/clearpath-brushless-dc-servo-motors/all-clearpath-models/
01:38 AM solarwind: Just need to make sure I can read their encoder output so I can close the loop in linuxcnc
01:40 AM solarwind: I am contemplating mounting an auxiliary spindle to the lathe somehow though for those high speed parts
01:41 AM solarwind: Might go with a servo motor for that since small parts don't really need that much torque and servos spin fast
05:07 AM JT-Cave_ is now known as JT-Cave
05:07 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:30 AM pere: morning. :)
05:58 AM fogl: hello
05:59 AM fogl: I was wondering what is typical/suitable ratio between latency and thread period.
06:00 AM fogl: I am achieving 20us max latency on servo thread. Can i run linuxcnc at 5kHz (200us)?
07:30 AM mrec: in lathe mode did anyone notice that the tool preview is messed up sometimes?
07:31 AM mrec: I insert a comment into my nc code before the tool change and suddenly it's okay
07:31 AM mrec: however I still have a faulty tool preview at the end of it
07:31 AM mrec: MDI always shows the correct tool
10:09 AM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: What UI?
10:39 AM Deejay: hi
10:52 AM JT-Shop: every year I get a bill from domain listings website listing service LOL
10:52 AM JT-Shop: they time it with my web site renewal date
10:55 AM roycroft: those scammers are good about that
11:02 AM fogl: hello
11:02 AM fogl: I was wondering what is typical/suitable ratio between latency and thread period.
11:02 AM fogl: I am achieving 20us max latency on servo thread. Can i run linuxcnc at 5kHz (200us)?
11:03 AM jpa-: should be fine, though if that latency figure is from latency-test, it will grow when you add HAL components
11:03 AM jpa-: or rather, the time taken by the loop will grow
11:04 AM jpa-: it is not uncommon to have servo loop take over 100us per execution if you have a bunch of IO stuff in it
11:05 AM fogl: yes, this figure is from the latency test. Can i run latency test during linuxcnc run - instructions says no.
11:06 AM jpa-: no, but the "HAL configuration" window will let you see the actual execution times
11:07 AM fogl: ok, i will check also those figures, thank you
11:09 AM fogl: Do you maybe have an idea, are those figures (latency, loop frequency, etc) similar also for commercial cnc machine controllers (siemens, fanuc, etc)?
11:12 AM jpa-: 1 to 5kHz position loop speed is quite usual, as a faster one would only matter for very high acceleration and precision machines
11:13 AM jpa-: if for some reason you would be running motor velocity or current PID loops in linuxcnc, then it becomes much more of a limiting factor - usually those are done in hardware at over 10kHz speeds
01:09 PM CaptHindsight[m]: years ago I ran an analog galvo with 7i77's at some silly high speed, I forget how fast the DAC 's are on that board
01:13 PM FinboySlick: CaptHindsight[m]: New project, turn 7i77 into soundcard.
01:15 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 12 bit DAC's, isn't it something like 0.5% accuracy over full scale? Good enough for voice
01:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i seem to recall running the servo loop faster and faster until we got realtime errors on the servo thread or reaching a point where servo thread time no longed made a difference over a few KHz
01:19 PM CaptHindsight[m]: FinboySlick: do you remember that scam kickstarter that used a sound card to control a galvo?
01:26 PM unterhausen: I miss the good old days when dell laptop hard drives came out with one screw
01:26 PM FinboySlick: Very vaguely... It was a 3D printer, right?
01:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: FinboySlick: yes
01:33 PM FinboySlick: Could it be that they also used a rising/drip pool for the Z stage?
01:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: salt water
01:33 PM FinboySlick: Oh, right.
01:38 PM unterhausen: was it really a scam or were they just ignorant about how things work?
01:55 PM andypugh: unterhausen: My Dell HD comes out with no tools at all.
01:55 PM unterhausen: it turns out this one has two screws, but I did have to watch a youtube to find out where they are
02:00 PM andypugh: (Latitude 5420, just open the flap, release the latch and pull the tab. Though actually it’s a PCIe SSD rather than a HD)
02:05 PM andypugh: Crikey! I just specced-up the company lapdog and it’s £4500
02:24 PM FinboySlick: andypugh: Are you sure it's not one of the Queen's Corgis?
02:26 PM xxcodery: well interesting statement toi see on join
02:33 PM xxcoder[m]: good thing im on discord too so I can see context of it
02:47 PM CaptHindsight[m]: unterhausen: well one of the people involved used $500k to build a house with the funds vs the actual printer
02:48 PM xxcodery: think im fimiliar with that one
02:49 PM xxcodery: other guy was upset about it if I recall right
02:49 PM CaptHindsight[m]: sorry only $300k https://hackaday.com/2016/05/11/peachy-printer-collapses-investor-built-a-house-instead-of-a-printer/
02:50 PM CloudEvil: Galaxy brain 'I can 3d print a house' ... 'I can kickstart a printer and steal the money to build a house'
02:52 PM roycroft is now known as roycroft_
02:52 PM roycroft_ is now known as roycroft
02:53 PM xxcodery: I wonder if other guy ever reclaimed money
02:59 PM Loetmichel: andypugh: i recently dismantled one of the new bought Dell Precisions at the company to make them "side channel proof". Quite the unique feeling to dismantle an ~6kEur "notebook" just to see whats inside and put it into a new enclosure... runs well as a puzzle though.
02:59 PM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17104&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
03:00 PM xxcodery: nice lol
03:00 PM xxcodery: wonder if it uses bluetooth stuff, and do it block bluetooth devices with usb plugs
03:01 PM Loetmichel: BT and Wifi modules are removed.
03:01 PM Loetmichel: those things are meant to be 100% wirebound
03:01 PM Loetmichel: AND shielded.
03:01 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Remove the LEDs too?
03:02 PM Loetmichel: ZincBoy[CAON][m]: why should we?
03:02 PM Loetmichel: those are meant to be shielded, not unusable
03:02 PM xxcodery: its a way to bring data out
03:02 PM xxcodery: not kidding
03:02 PM Loetmichel: i know
03:02 PM Loetmichel: we only do "side channel attack prevention"
03:03 PM Loetmichel: not optical blink codes
03:03 PM Loetmichel: old rule: if you are in front of a machine its already compromised.
03:03 PM xxcodery: yah not super isolated computer for example for private key secure
03:03 PM xxcodery: I remember reading one about using FANS to take data out
03:04 PM xxcodery: and other one tapping power usage while its calculating
03:04 PM Loetmichel: there is even a tool that uses the CPU load to generate varying currents in the power cable and with that a medium wave transmitter
03:05 PM Loetmichel: you can literally play MP3 songs and listen to them with a normal medium wave radio next to the PC
03:05 PM Loetmichel: THAT is scary
03:05 PM xxcodery: crazy. I guess id add seperate light module that randomly changes brightness to nix that
03:06 PM xxcodery: of course, not visible to viewers in case they can use it to corrarate
03:06 PM Loetmichel: but as i said: we only have to shield the devices against "over the air" attacks
03:06 PM xxcodery: yea thats cool
03:07 PM Loetmichel: a.k.a reducing EMI from the device to levels that no data can be reconstructed (under the noise floor basically)
03:08 PM xxcodery: I suppose its also handy for stopping detecting it
03:08 PM Loetmichel: yeah, "there is some electronic device" can be a vital information on its own
03:09 PM Loetmichel: on that account: REALLY funny when you get orders from a TLA customer to make "highest standard" proofed PCs and the order calls for Win11 licenses :)
03:10 PM xxcodery: lol
03:11 PM Loetmichel: its always one of those *facepalm* "Well, whatever. Customer is king, right?" moments
03:13 PM roycroft: 11 is the biggest number, isn't it?
03:13 PM roycroft: and biggest = highest, no?
03:14 PM Loetmichel: 10 wasnt much better in THAT regard.
03:15 PM roycroft: i found a tailgate for my pickup at the first wrecking yard i went to
03:15 PM roycroft: it's even the right color
03:16 PM roycroft: the tommy gate idea was good, but it would be way too expensive
03:18 PM xxcodery: id use linux
03:18 PM xxcodery: very secure if properly configured
03:18 PM FinboySlick: On that level, I doubt the OS really matters.
03:19 PM roycroft: i'd use whatever os runs the application that is needed
03:28 PM Loetmichel: FinboySlick: well the systems typically have NO internet-connection. so from that POV: right, it doesent matter if Win or linux or whatever. on the other hand: win11 gets REALLY pissy if it gets no internet every now and then to "check for updates".
03:29 PM xxcodery: roy id say "whatever meets the demends" since running program isnt sole thing. like loet said, sometimes os requires connections and that might not be the best
03:30 PM roycroft: if the os does not run your app there's no point in doing it at all
03:31 PM roycroft: on the other hand, if the app won't run as securely as required because of the os, then perhaps the app is not correct
03:31 PM Loetmichel: indeed
03:31 PM xxcodery: roy precisely what im saying :)
03:32 PM xxcodery: almost holistic unity of program needed to run and os, and envorment and connectivity
03:32 PM Loetmichel: it already starts with the fact that MS apparently dumped the "telephone activation" with win11. so you'll have to connect the PC to the net at least once. Even that is a possible security risk
03:32 PM xxcodery: no phone activation? crazy
03:32 PM Loetmichel: yeah, at least to my knowledge
03:33 PM xxcodery: I guess activation can be done though router that accepts ONLY very specific ip address packets
03:33 PM xxcodery: whitelist with very few ip addresses and domains
03:33 PM Loetmichel: yeah, still a security risk.
03:33 PM xxcodery: yeah but less so I guess
03:34 PM Loetmichel: as my dad used to say: "best viruskiller is a pulled network plug"
03:34 PM roycroft: i wonder when the eu will fine microsoft over that
03:34 PM Loetmichel: s/viruskiller/firewall
03:35 PM roycroft: can i generate an activation request, send it in the mail to microsoft, and await a return mail with my activation key?
03:35 PM Loetmichel: no idea
03:40 PM satiowadahc1171[: Is there a limit to how many axis exist on a single gantry before its ridiculous?
03:40 PM Tom_L: 9
03:41 PM * Tom_L would rather not see that design
03:41 PM * roycroft thinks it would get ridiculous well before 9
03:41 PM roycroft: i would say that six is bordering on ridiculous
03:42 PM Tom_L: my kid runs 2 with 6 axis ea
03:42 PM Tom_L: so what's 3 more?
03:42 PM roycroft: 7 is where i would consider the line crossed
03:42 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: The question is if they are serial, parallel, or independent?
03:42 PM xxcodery: depends on machine
03:42 PM xxcodery: 12 tool lathe that also transfers part between spindles?
03:42 PM Tom_L: there is also those with dual gantrys and spindles
03:42 PM xxcodery: (by "tool" I meanseperate tool on its own axis)
03:42 PM Tom_L: a bit larger than the average hobby cnc
03:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I can easily see wanting more than 9 axis
03:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 12 spindle gantry mill
03:44 PM Tom_L: X Y Z A B C U V W
03:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 12 spindle cnc PCB drill
03:45 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbq-Hi9wcU4
03:45 PM Tom_L: 3 spindle but they all 3 do the same thing
03:46 PM Tom_L: capn, it's good to want.
03:46 PM Tom_L: 12 spindles doesn't = 12 axis
03:46 PM xxcodery: https://youtu.be/S2LEEsDIDp0
03:47 PM xxcodery: fun demo
03:47 PM satiowadahc1171[: Global X two independant y's 4 independant Z's
03:47 PM satiowadahc1171[: 1 z has b and c and another has b
03:48 PM roycroft: 12 spindles would normally be 2 axes, no?
03:48 PM roycroft: 1 for the spindle itself
03:48 PM roycroft: 1 for the spindle rotation
03:48 PM roycroft: as in rotating the spindle in place
03:48 PM xxcodery: I cant find one that have lots tool axises on lathe, my browser is too laggy to really watch videos
03:48 PM roycroft: so it would be z and c
03:49 PM satiowadahc1171[: I've done multi spindles with one z before, just use tool offsets
03:49 PM xxcodery: video I linked to, to me it was like fast slide show
03:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i can send you a real PC
03:51 PM CaptHindsight[m]: heh, I am using up my last two Celeron dual core 1.1GHz boards, they feel slower than my phone now
03:52 PM xxcodery: capt nah I have a pc. it just needs gel so i can re-mount cpu heat sink on it lol
03:53 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i have tubs of heat paste :) if you need some
03:54 PM xxcodery: lol thanks, ordered some though so ill be fine
03:54 PM CaptHindsight[m]: one thing I'll probably never use up in my drums of spindle and way oils, so if anyone needs any
03:54 PM CaptHindsight[m]: in/are
03:55 PM Tom_L: i don't need it until i need it
03:56 PM xxcodery: I got gallon of velcer 2 oil ready to go as soon as I have a machine :P probably never
03:56 PM roycroft: if the spindles arranged in a linearly, switching spindles would be a function of x or y, wouldn't it?
03:57 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: I thought I would never use the 5gal of vactra #2 but I am actually getting low.
03:57 PM roycroft: so you'd have an x or y with 2 joints, or something like that
04:01 PM Tom_L: roycroft, more likely a fixture offset
04:06 PM ddB05153011[m]: hello all
04:06 PM ddB05153011[m]: does anyone have good totorial to writing/understanding syntax for subroutines?
04:06 PM ddB05153011[m]: and what all numbers in scripts starting with # means (eq: #5199)
04:06 PM ddB05153011[m]: most I got from samples but a lot of is undocumented/unknown
04:07 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: There are only a few memory locations that are predefined. They are documented in the g-code docs.
04:08 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: https://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/overview.html
04:08 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Section 3.1 and 3.3
04:09 PM ddB05153011[m]: looks like I was searching wrong docs 😦
04:09 PM ddB05153011[m]: didn't know that are connected via G codes
04:09 PM ddB05153011[m]: thx
04:09 PM ddB05153011[m]: writing rack tool changer for my CNC so expect more questions 😉
04:09 PM Tom_L: https://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gcode/o-code.html
04:10 PM Tom_L: probably some examples here: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/40-subroutines-and-ngcgui
04:13 PM Tom_L: thought: have the tool number be a multiple of the distance between tools on the rack
04:27 PM ddB05153011[m]: this is super useful...Thx a lot
07:49 PM Tom_L: ddB05153011[m], https://www.stepcraft.us/shop/2103-automatic-sliding-tool-rack-q-204-203521?page=3#attr=
07:50 PM Tom_L: make your own.. 900 seems a bit steep
07:54 PM Tom_L: they're not figuring on using very long tools...
07:54 PM Tom_L: ie drills, reamers etc which tend to be longer
07:55 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Stub length drills.
07:55 PM Tom_L: i was thinking more about reamers actually
07:55 PM Tom_L: i recently got a set of stub length for mine
07:56 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Reamer won't work that well on a typical router spindle as they don't go low enough RPM.
07:56 PM Tom_L: that's true too
07:57 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: But it is a fair point as it limits the length of endmill for 3d profiling work.
07:57 PM Tom_L: i look at those gantrys more as routers and 2.5d stuff
07:58 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: True, but I did a bunch of 3d sign work on my gantry router.
07:58 PM Tom_L: you z isn't gonna be that deep on a sign so i can easily see that
07:59 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: 3" using foam board. Looked great once sealed and painted.
08:00 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Not much Z by the standards of a mill though 🙂
08:00 PM Tom_L: no but deeper than i'd thought
08:01 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: You can do some fun stuff with Vectric Vcarve.
08:01 PM Tom_L: i've looked at it a long time ago
08:02 PM Tom_L: it was either vcarve or something very similar
08:02 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: They have a higher end version called aspire as well.
08:06 PM roycroft: i'm probably going to get vcarve pro when i get my router built
08:06 PM roycroft: i can always upgrade to aspire later
08:06 PM roycroft: vcarve pro is 2.5d, while aspire is 3d
08:06 PM roycroft: and there's no upgrade penalty
08:07 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: I found vcarve pro did everything I needed on my router. Never felt the need to upgrade.
08:07 PM roycroft: which is why i'm going to start with that
08:07 PM roycroft: since there's no penalty to upgrade to aspire, it's a no-brainer
08:07 PM roycroft: don't buy what you probably won't need
08:10 PM Tom_L: agree as long as the upgrade path is easy
08:11 PM roycroft: i believe it is very easy
08:12 PM roycroft: and the vectric products have linuxcnc profiles already
08:12 PM Tom_L: that's a plus
08:12 PM roycroft: probably not exactly what folks need, but it gets you 90% of the way there, at least
08:12 PM Tom_L: wonder how refined it is
08:12 PM roycroft: i don't know
08:12 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: I found the post needed some tweaks for sure but I would agree with the 90%.
08:13 PM roycroft: i'll let yo know some day
08:13 PM roycroft: i'm not a big fan of windows, as we all know well, but i am a big fan of run the os that runs the app you need
08:13 PM Tom_L: i got my post pretty spot on now
08:13 PM roycroft: and vectric products run on windows
08:13 PM Tom_L: with a few custom sections
08:14 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Tool changes and things aren't super well handled by default.
08:14 PM roycroft: so i'll run vcare pro on my cad workstation, which is running windows 10
08:14 PM Tom_L: like an M0 section that handles the spindle/coolant for clamp changes etc
08:14 PM roycroft: and that machine is not connected to the internet
08:16 PM Tom_L: my cad cam is 32 bit
08:16 PM Tom_L: i switch between 32 and 64 when i'm using catia or such
08:17 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Does the cad cam only run in 32b? I can't imagine why else you would use 32b for anything these days.
08:17 PM Tom_L: mine is very old software
08:18 PM Tom_L: but i import catia to it so it works pretty seamless
08:18 PM Tom_L: i have a DOS version if that tells you anything
08:18 PM Tom_L: not using it but that's when i started
08:18 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: lol So you need the 8b version 🙂
08:19 PM Tom_L: the older iges actually works better than the newer version
08:20 PM Tom_L: i have an old dos box with nt4 on it which is where i keep that copy
08:20 PM Tom_L: seldom ever use it but comes in handy once in a while
08:21 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: I started with autocad 12 on dos. Started doing 3d in autocad 2000. That was pain. Much happier to use a parametric modeler with a proper solids engine.
08:22 PM Tom_L: i knew a guy that did all his cnc stuff with acad and ncpolaris
08:22 PM Tom_L: i think he enjoyed pain
08:23 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: Ouch!
08:23 PM Tom_L: yeah, todays stuff is alot nicer but it's a hobby for me now so it works fine
08:23 PM Tom_L: you ever hear of ncpolaris?
08:23 PM Tom_L: was an addin to acad
08:24 PM Tom_L: most was 3d too
08:25 PM ZincBoy[CAON][m]: No. But I can imagine it quite well having spend many hours dealing with acad plugins.
08:25 PM Tom_L: everything was wireframe back then
08:27 PM roycroft: autocad 12 is where i started with cad too
08:27 PM Tom_L: mine was somewhere around there too, came on floppies
08:27 PM roycroft: i tried 3d with autocad 2008, but we quickly determined that solidworks would be better, and it definitely is
08:28 PM roycroft: i've been really happy since i got solidworks 2018
08:28 PM Tom_L: i'll take catia over sw but that's what i know
08:28 PM roycroft: although i did have to buy a bunch of memory and a semi-high end graphics card for the windows machine
08:28 PM roycroft: and perhaps it is better
08:28 PM Tom_L: when i took the classes, i did try to do all the models with both sw and catia just for the practice
08:28 PM roycroft: but it's also at least an order of magnitude more expensive than solidworks
08:29 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/
08:29 PM Tom_L: there's a few of them
08:30 PM Tom_L: we were required to do 10 iirc, the model base was over 100 and i think i did most of them before the class was over
08:31 PM Tom_L: while tutoring the guy next to me that couldn't figure out what a directory was in windows
08:32 PM Tom_L: i felt bad for him because he was an experienced manual machinist but couldn't figure out PCs to save his soul
08:34 PM Tom_L: roycroft, that's true but it's heavily used around here
08:34 PM Tom_L: otherwise i wouldn't have bothered
08:36 PM roycroft: sure
08:36 PM roycroft: if you need it it's more expensive to use a lesser product
08:37 PM roycroft: so far, solidworks has worked well for me
08:37 PM roycroft: and i do not use it often enough to justify anything more
08:38 PM roycroft: speaking of such things, i did get a little cad work done last night, for the first time in a while
08:38 PM Tom_L: you wound up getting that 2015? copy didn't you?
08:38 PM roycroft: and i hope to get more done tonight
08:38 PM roycroft: 2018
08:38 PM roycroft: and yes
08:38 PM Tom_L: k
08:39 PM roycroft: and that should work well for me for a long time
08:39 PM roycroft: i don't really *need* the vectric product - either vcarve pro or aspire - as i can do everything that software does in solidworks
08:39 PM Tom_L: i'm still using 30 yr old software :)
08:40 PM roycroft: but vectric cad is designed for cnc routers, and i can work so much faster with it when i have the router than doing the same thing in solidworks
08:41 PM Tom_L: i don't think any of them have exceptional canned routines for pockets etc
08:41 PM roycroft: sw is like autocad in that there are heaps of vertical market third-party add-ons that make it work a lot more efficiently for that market
08:41 PM roycroft: but th cost adds up really really fast
08:41 PM roycroft: vcarve pro is good enough for <$1k for a professional sign shop to do pretty much everything it needs to do
08:41 PM roycroft: and for most woodworking shops
08:42 PM roycroft: when i get my mill converted to cnc i'll model my parts in solidworks and probably use solidcam to generate the gcode for the mill
08:43 PM roycroft: but for the router, i'm almost certainly going to use vcarve pro
08:44 PM xxcodery: lol I was still working on cam issue when I moved so couldnt run router
08:44 PM roycroft: i have the $700 in my cnc router account already, and it's earmarked for the software, so i won't spend it on the router itself
09:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: down to frost again tonight
09:19 PM Tom_L: jack hasn't arrived here yet
09:19 PM Tom_L: 46 for the low it appears
09:20 PM Tom_L: still dry as a desert
09:20 PM Tom_L: the couple drops we did get were just a tease
09:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: had rain the past two days
09:22 PM CaptHindsight[m]: only 40's for highs the next few days
09:23 PM Tom_L: might get some frost tuesday
09:24 PM Tom_L: highs 60s ~ 70s
09:24 PM Tom_L: tomorrow 84
09:27 PM Thorhian[m]: I learned how to use python ctypes recently. It was quite the time.
09:29 PM xxcodery: fun
09:29 PM roycroft: it hasn't gotten remotely close to freezing here
09:30 PM roycroft: and we often get our first frost in october, but not of late
09:31 PM xxcodery: yep
09:31 PM xxcodery: and still no major rain!
09:32 PM roycroft: not even minor rain
09:32 PM roycroft: just the occasional sprinkle
09:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: we had about 2 weeks from 80's high to 30 as a low
09:32 PM Tom_L: Thorhian[m], do you have to be careful you're using dll from the similar release date for compatibility?
09:37 PM CaptHindsight[m]: heh and we still have fruit flies
09:38 PM roycroft: i haven't seen fruit flies at all this year
09:38 PM roycroft: and we usually have heaps of them
09:38 PM roycroft: no crane flies either
09:39 PM roycroft: i'm not sad about missing out on either of those
09:39 PM Tom_L: been too dry for mosquitos here
09:40 PM roycroft: we had plenty of mosquitos
09:40 PM roycroft: but we had the wettest april on record
09:42 PM Thorhian[m]: Well the C++ code I was running is my own, a wrapper to be able to use RenderDoc’s API (it’s a GPU profiling application). I needed a good way of getting a detailed look at how my prototype path planning algorithm is using GPU memory.
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