#linuxcnc Logs
Oct 09 2022
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:14 AM * roycroft is back
12:24 AM roycroft: it was a wonderful opening night
12:24 AM roycroft: and perhas as importantly, my headlights now project light ahead of my vehicle, and are no longer essentially giant fireflies
12:24 AM XXCoder: lol nice
12:24 AM XXCoder: if your car headlights bulbs is in least 10 years old, you might want to swap em too
12:24 AM roycroft: my car has drl
12:24 AM XXCoder: my car headlights is still clear but it barely lit at all
12:24 AM roycroft: they do not last 10 years
12:24 AM roycroft: they do not last even one year
12:24 AM XXCoder: geez
12:24 AM roycroft: actually, since the pandemic, they are lasting more than a year
12:24 AM roycroft: but that's because i drive about 1/3 as much as i used to
12:24 AM XXCoder: well when I replaced both mine it was a lot more brighter
12:24 AM * roycroft averages 5000 miles/year now
12:44 AM Deejay: moin
12:50 AM Tom_L: roycroft, done i think
12:50 AM roycroft: thanks, tom_l
12:51 AM roycroft: it's not something i would casually ask
12:51 AM Tom_L: check and see
12:51 AM Tom_L: just got in from a trip and half asleep
12:51 AM roycroft: i don't ever read the logs, and don't know where to find them
12:51 AM roycroft: thanks
12:52 AM roycroft: it's not there - thank you
12:57 AM roycroft: and i'll try not to do that again
03:49 AM mrec: this timer is nice
04:53 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:43 AM JT-Cave: 36°F
06:04 AM Tom_L: morning
06:04 AM Tom_L: 54F
07:37 AM Deejay: hi
08:50 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, master doesn't save spindle settings yet?
08:51 AM Tom_L: ..saves what i input thru the gui but doesn't read them back from the ini on the 7i96s
08:57 AM Tom_L: reads in info on tabs: machine, display, axis, io, sscards but misses spindle
09:07 AM JT-Cave: hmm, it should load the spindle section, does it create the spindle section in the ini file?
09:24 AM Tom_L: yes
09:24 AM Tom_L: but it doesn't read it back in
09:25 AM Tom_L: [SPINDLE_0]
09:26 AM pere: is there a way to control the float number printing in halcmd show pin? it switches between decimal form and scientific form (like 1e-05), which make it very hard to see how the number change when using watch with a short interval.
09:30 AM Tom_L: pere, that would likely require a code change
09:30 AM pere: :(
09:30 AM Tom_L: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27766496/how-do-i-control-the-number-of-decimal-places-printed-in-a-float
09:34 AM Tom_L: https://overiq.com/python-101/numbers-in-python/
09:38 AM Tom_L: you could try http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man1/halcmd.1.html
09:38 AM Tom_L: net with one of "bit", "s32", "u32", or "float"
09:38 AM Tom_L: as a modifier
09:40 AM Tom_L: (found under: newsig which is obsolete now)
09:42 AM JT-Shop: hmm, I know what that is, I forgot to update the loadini.py file for [SPINDLE_0], it was [SPINDLE]
09:43 AM Tom_L: :)
09:44 AM Tom_L: sleepy morning.. got back from KC ~12:30ish
09:58 AM JT-Shop: thursday - saturday was a 5 pounder for me lol, kids left this morning and I'm not hungry
10:02 AM Tom_L: kids wanted to go to the halloween thing at WOF
10:12 AM JT-Shop: 68 Mbps
10:14 AM Tom_L: bet you're lovin that
10:15 AM JT-Shop: will be when the wired adapter arrives... wifi only atm
10:15 AM Tom_L: what do you have on wifi?
10:15 AM JT-Shop: gotta get a mount for the roof
10:15 AM JT-Shop: my work laptop
10:15 AM Tom_L: most of mine is wired, most of everyone else's is wifi
10:16 AM Tom_L: iirc the rpi4 is the only wifi one i have
10:16 AM JT-Shop: hmm I can use my phone as a hotspot
10:16 AM Tom_L: yup
10:16 AM Tom_L: watch yer data
10:17 AM JT-Shop: it will be on wifi
10:17 AM JT-Shop: I have unlimited data on the phone, but I'll use wifi
10:18 AM JT-Shop: printer is wifi too
10:18 AM Tom_L: yeah i forgot that one..
10:37 AM JT-Shop: that starlink dish moves around a lot... gotta get the extension ladder out and move it to the peak of the roof I think
10:37 AM Tom_L: was that last batch of emails the spindle fix?
10:37 AM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: is the dish fixed. or does it track?
10:40 AM roguish[m]: looked 'em up. thery're fixed.
10:41 AM JT-Shop: it tracks
10:41 AM JT-Shop: Tom_L, yes
10:41 AM roguish[m]: really?
10:41 AM Tom_L: ok building..
10:42 AM JT-Shop: really
10:45 AM JT-Shop: it rotates and pivots, was pointing straight up a while ago, now pointing somewhat north
10:45 AM Tom_L: yay it reads the file now
10:45 AM Tom_L: and loads changes i made from geany
10:46 AM Tom_L: tell the satelite to hold still
10:49 AM JT-Shop: lol
10:50 AM Tom_L: so for now anyway, the main ini is the only file you can edit outside mesact?
10:55 AM JT-Shop: no, you can edit custom.hal, postgui.hal, shutdown.hal and in master you can only change values in the main ini file
10:56 AM Tom_L: but not io.hal or sserial.hal
10:57 AM Tom_L: i don't use the 3 you mentioned on this config
10:57 AM Tom_L: i could add postgui i suppose
10:58 AM Tom_L: not sure what i'd add to shutdown.hal
10:58 AM Tom_L: trigger the robotic broom sweeper
10:59 AM JT-Shop: code you want executed during shutdown
11:00 AM Tom_L: right.. i just can't think of any off hand
11:11 AM Tom_L: pr #33
11:26 AM Tom_L: interesting..
11:27 AM JT-Shop: what's that?
11:27 AM Tom_L: i added spindle as a test but really can't use it on the test pc so i unchecked it in mesact Spindle->Output: none
11:28 AM Tom_L: but it left the spindle and encoder sections in the hal after writing them the first time
11:28 AM Tom_L: i was trying to add a postgui hal to test it and it had some spindle stuff in it
11:29 AM JT-Shop: interesting
11:30 AM Tom_L: so wherever it writes [SPINDLE_0] should be tracked
11:31 AM Tom_L: i still have a few lines i'm finding
11:31 AM Tom_L: oh.. it keeps writing it back in
11:32 AM Tom_L: i removed it from test.hal and rebuild the configs from mesact and it put them back
11:32 AM Tom_L: i bet some of that is in your 'do not touch' section
11:32 AM JT-Shop: what is it putting back?
11:32 AM Tom_L: hang on
11:33 AM JT-Shop: k
11:33 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
11:40 AM Tom_dev: http://paste.debian.net/1256474/ and wherever [SPINDLE_0] is referenced in the hal file
11:40 AM Tom_L: that's with Spindle->Output set to 'None'
11:40 AM Tom_L: once it's written it's just out there forever
11:40 AM Tom_L: i can probably fix it temporarily by deleting the main.hal and let mesact rebuild it fresh
11:40 AM JT-Shop: the main hal is written over, is there anything in the ini file left about spindle?
11:42 AM Tom_L: i'll pull them back off the server :)
11:42 AM Tom_L: i don't think i had any spindle selected on those
11:42 AM Tom_L: rather than start all over on the config
11:43 AM JT-Shop: ok
11:43 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/mesact/7i96s_test/
11:44 AM Tom_L: those should not have spindle yet.. i'll check for sure
11:44 AM Tom_L: in case you want to test with them
11:44 AM JT-Shop: [SPINDLE]
11:44 AM JT-Shop: SPINDLE_TYPE = analog
11:44 AM JT-Shop: SPINDLE_PWM_TYPE = 1
11:44 AM JT-Shop: PWM_FREQUENCY = 5000
11:44 AM JT-Shop: MAX_RPM = 5600
11:44 AM JT-Shop: MIN_RPM = 0
11:46 AM Tom_dev: yeah, loading that one in mesact shows spindle as none
11:46 AM Tom_dev: no spindle_0 section in that one
11:47 AM Tom_dev: i didn't check the config that had [SPINDLE_0] to see if it still had reference to 'spindle' in them
11:48 AM Tom_dev: but it probably did
11:49 AM Tom_dev: i'll add a spindle to these new ones and see
11:52 AM Tom_dev: no they're not there however i wonder if signals like:
11:52 AM Tom_dev: net spindle-index-enable <=> pid.4.index-enable
11:52 AM Tom_dev: net spindle-index-enable <=> hm2_7i96s.0.encoder.00.index-enable
11:52 AM Tom_dev: net spindle-index-enable <=> spindle.0.index-enable
11:52 AM Tom_dev: should have the net names follow the spindle since you aparently can have more than one
11:52 AM Tom_dev: <-- dunno the answer
11:54 AM Tom_dev: well, not on the 7i96s but possibly other boards
12:03 PM Tom_L: i _can_ remove any reference to 'spindle' in the ini and hal then reload the config with mesact and Spindle->Output: shows 'None'
12:18 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, is there a place in mesact to add MDI_COMMAND to [HALUI]?
12:18 PM Tom_L: i didn't see one
12:22 PM Tom_L: manually entering them gets erased
12:30 PM perry_j1987: morning guys
12:30 PM perry_j1987: got the mini itx board and hdd mounted in this techno isel cabinet yesterday along with a pico psu
12:31 PM perry_j1987: now all thats left is getting a riser block/subplate designed for this lathe
12:31 PM perry_j1987: for the gang tooling
01:11 PM perry_j1987: wish i had a faceplate for this lathe
01:11 PM perry_j1987: would come in handy for making this
01:34 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, in the options tab...
02:00 PM JT-Shop: I need a good ethernet to wifi adapter for the house
02:01 PM perry_j1987: got an old router?
02:01 PM perry_j1987: throw dd-wrt on it
02:01 PM JT-Shop: hmm, I might have a router but mostly I have switches
02:01 PM perry_j1987: check their supported hardware database with what you have and then there are links to flashing guides
02:02 PM JT-Shop: cool, thanks
02:02 PM perry_j1987: nice way to use what you got sometimes
02:24 PM CaptHindsight[m]: JT-Shop: did you get the Gen2 Starlink?
02:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: rectangular antenna vs round
02:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://youtu.be/FDxPK8aOVCY?t=317
02:26 PM Tom_L: i used an old router in the shop
02:26 PM JT-Shop: CaptHindsight[m], yes
02:26 PM Tom_L: as a wifi extender
02:29 PM CaptHindsight[m]: JT-Shop: I am glad it's working out for you, you had to put up with pretty crappy internet for a while
02:31 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i wish i could get a system without the long wait
02:32 PM JT-Shop: so far, tomorrow the wired adapter will arrive I hope and I can plug in the shops and house
02:37 PM Tom_L: you may be able to configure the router as a repeater if you look at the settings
02:37 PM Tom_L: i did without having to reload any firmware
02:37 PM JT-Shop: gotta find a router first, I assume a switch will not work...
02:38 PM Tom_L: no
02:40 PM Tom_L: i don't see where in options to add MDI_COMMAND s
02:42 PM JT-Shop: did you pull?
02:42 PM JT-Shop: :)
02:42 PM Tom_L: no, been afk
02:42 PM Tom_L: and gonna be afk again but i'll check when i get back
02:43 PM Tom_L: that spindle thing looks like it could be a can of worms
02:43 PM JT-Shop: k
02:43 PM JT-Shop: that's why I only support 1, I only added _0 so it shows up in the configuration tool in axis
02:44 PM Tom_L: yeah
02:44 PM Tom_L: maybe remove mention of it if 'none' is selected
02:50 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: looks like the antenna is powered. probably for initial alignment, and then occasional re-alignment. not for continuous tracking.
02:51 PM JT-Shop2: the antenna has spin and tilt motors and defrost, it's moved a few times since I first powered it up
02:55 PM Tom_L: ok i don't quite get this
02:55 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
02:55 PM Tom_dev: The Filter extension must start with a period like .py
02:55 PM Tom_dev: The Filter extension requires the format .extension, description
02:55 PM Tom_dev: For Example: .py, my python filter
02:57 PM JT-Shop2: what don't you understand?
02:58 PM Tom_L: got that entering a hal_command
02:58 PM Tom_L: i think anyway
02:58 PM JT-Shop2: must have entered a filter
02:59 PM Tom_L: trying again..
02:59 PM JT-Shop2: k
03:01 PM Tom_dev: get that when i load that config now
03:01 PM Tom_dev: unmodified
03:02 PM Tom_dev: what tab should i be looking under for that?
03:03 PM JT-Shop2: you should only see that when checkconfig.py runs just before building the files
03:03 PM Tom_dev: i get that when i load the ini
03:04 PM Tom_dev: then 'check config'
03:04 PM Tom_dev: which i've never seen before
03:08 PM Tom_dev: ok, pulled the backups off the server again to try and i get that on those when i check config
03:08 PM JT-Shop2: I'll check in a bit
03:08 PM Tom_dev: never got that prior
03:08 PM Tom_dev: np, just confused me
03:09 PM Tom_dev: anyway, i gotta finish shopping or i won't be eating much this week
03:12 PM JT-Shop: I'm not getting that error, when you get a chance post the ini file
03:13 PM Tom_L: the whole set it up there
03:13 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/mesact/7i96s_test/
03:14 PM Tom_L: i just pulled those and got the error
03:14 PM XXCoder: roycroft: man it barely rained in night
03:15 PM XXCoder: here we'd normally already be getting in least 10 rain days by now from aug but so far.. 3 very minor and short rains
03:19 PM CaptHindsight[m]: JT-Shop: are the new Mesa FPGA cards available yet and testing well? I saw some comments on the forums about issues with the new boards.
03:20 PM CaptHindsight[m]: just minor problems with assembly for the Efinix FPGA versions
03:23 PM Tom_L: there were some filter caps on the bottom of one that were misplaced a bit
03:23 PM JT-Cave: Tom_L, that ini loads fine here with the latest master
03:23 PM Tom_L: i'll check when i get back, got several things going atm here
03:24 PM Tom_L: hard to focus
03:24 PM JT-Cave: k
03:24 PM JT-Cave: CaptHindsight[m], next board IIRC is the 7i92
03:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: JT-Cave: can we expect to get several in the next month yet or is end of the year more realistic?
03:26 PM JT-Cave: have to ask pcw-home that question
03:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Peter mention hundreds will be in the queue soon
03:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ah ok
03:40 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, built from source and still getting that message
03:40 PM Tom_L: i'll check more when i get back
03:41 PM JT-Shop2: k
04:20 PM rdtsc: Hi, yesterday I said I could not do a 'git clone git://github.com/linuxcnc/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev'. Today it still doesn't work, but this does: 'git clone https://github.com/linuxcnc/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev'
04:23 PM JT-Shop: git: only works if your listed as a part of the project and your ssh key has been added to the project
04:23 PM JT-Shop: https:~ works for everyone
04:25 PM rdtsc: It would have been really helpful if it would have said that, rather then "connection timed out."
04:27 PM JT-Shop: connection timed out means just that
04:28 PM JT-Shop: the connection timed out
04:28 PM JT-Shop: if you had connected it would have said something about not authorized
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04:32 PM roycroft: do you have a bridge for sale as well?
04:32 PM xxcoder[m]: spammer on matrix
04:35 PM JT[m]1: Thanks Capt
04:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: no problem
04:36 PM Loetmichel: [23:30] <roycroft> do you have a bridge for sale as well? <- or maybe some biiiig copper figure with a torch in hand for scrap value?
05:02 PM JT[m]1: Hmm, I have a router in the basement...
05:23 PM * JT[m]1 uploaded an image: (348KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/KiDOmHthonIlPUFCwxaXGekN/20221009_172145_5731315788297283288.jpg >
05:24 PM XXCoder: fully enclosured?
05:26 PM JT[m]1: Still needs a roof
05:26 PM * JT[m]1 uploaded an image: (317KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/GAoShpwodzrFnMpOeYIAnGsy/20221009_172454_3574915980702279219.jpg >
05:26 PM JT[m]1: Ran out of screws and steam
05:26 PM XXCoder: lol ok
05:26 PM XXCoder: well cats enjoying it it seems
05:27 PM XXCoder: is it indoors only cat?
05:27 PM JT[m]1: Yep
05:28 PM XXCoder: well its cool
05:29 PM JT[m]1: Thanks
05:31 PM JT[m]1: Time to call it a day here
05:38 PM mrec: yesterday I tested the steady rest which came with the mini lathe... absolutely useless as it is
05:38 PM mrec: anyway it can be modified and I have some ideas already
05:39 PM mrec: the center of the steady rest doesn't even match the center of the stock
05:40 PM mrec: and the brass which is supposed to support the stock wears out quickly
05:40 PM mrec: so I think about installing some steel plate with a hole and bearings around it on the steady rest
06:46 PM roycroft: well i had fun this afternoon
06:46 PM XXCoder: nice
06:47 PM roycroft: i was recovering some wood from an old shop fixture to use in a jig i'm going to build
06:47 PM roycroft: it was some nice, cvg fir
06:47 PM roycroft: and i got to use my 15" circular saw, which i hardly ever get a chance to use
06:48 PM roycroft: that's 380mm for you folks who use normal units
06:49 PM XXCoder: roy you getting any rain?
06:50 PM roycroft: i'm sorry
06:50 PM roycroft: i don't know what that word means
06:50 PM XXCoder: lol
06:50 PM roycroft: my momma raised me to be a good boy, and i never learned those four letter words
06:51 PM roycroft: the long term forecast has a 30% chance of precipitation on the 21st
06:51 PM roycroft: but 0% or effectively 0% until then
06:51 PM XXCoder: interesting. well finally saw a fog here but very little rain.
06:52 PM XXCoder: 3 times tiny amount of rain at dusk
06:52 PM roycroft: this fixture i cut up today had been sitting outside
06:52 PM XXCoder: since aug
06:52 PM roycroft: i needed to get it broken down before the rain came
06:52 PM roycroft: yeah, about the same here
06:52 PM roycroft: and we are getting morning fog
06:52 PM roycroft: but we have not gotten down to the dew point once since last spring
06:53 PM roycroft: just fog in the air
06:53 PM roycroft: i was out at the fair site today winterizing our booth
06:53 PM XXCoder: been waiting for rain to finally clear out air here
06:53 PM roycroft: the grass was getting really long in the meadows, but it was still bone dry, even though they irrigate regularly
06:53 PM XXCoder: each time it drizzles my car get really diry
06:53 PM roycroft: the smoke came back today
06:54 PM roycroft: but it's not too bad
06:54 PM XXCoder: yeah saw some here too. coughed a little.
06:54 PM roycroft: we'll have an orange or red sunset though
06:55 PM XXCoder: yeah saw orange moon couple days ago
06:55 PM roycroft: we had 3.29mm total precipitation in september
06:55 PM roycroft: tonight is the full moon
06:56 PM roycroft: it was almost full last night, and the sky was clear
06:56 PM roycroft: tonight it will probably not be so clear
07:06 PM XXCoder: yeah looks like all week ist various amounts of clouds