#linuxcnc Logs

Aug 30 2022

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:58 AM Deejay: moin
01:11 AM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrLLmwi7-vE cool video on mic calibration
02:05 AM randy: morning
02:44 AM silopolis[m]: <perry_j1987> "there must have been a typo in..." <- Can you report it please?
04:43 AM Tom_L: morning
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05:04 AM JT-Cave: morning
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07:41 AM perry_j1987: silopolis[m] not in linuxcnc in the VFD manual
07:41 AM perry_j1987: morning
08:36 AM pere: nice summary of translation status in linuxcnc, <URL: https://i18n.debian.org/l10n-pkg-status/l/linuxcnc.html >
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09:01 AM silopolis[m]: pere: Very nice indeed!
09:13 AM silopolis[m]: 20 years later Debian keeps surprising me on a regular basis 😍
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09:53 AM roguish[m]: silopolis: watched a few of your freecad path videos yesterday.
10:09 AM perry_j1987: hows it look roguish[m]
10:16 AM roguish[m]: they're good. helful
10:16 AM roguish[m]: helpful
10:23 AM perry_j1987: CaptainHindsight one of those rhino wormdrives caught in the wild lol https://youtu.be/e0sisSjw7FQ?t=23
10:24 AM perry_j1987: roguish[m] just read the wiki it says lathe cam is in development for it too
10:34 AM perry_j1987: ok time ot head over to shop and dig into this new config's synchronous movement issue
10:47 AM CaptHindsight[m]: HOW IS MADE:
10:47 AM CaptHindsight[m]: πŸ‘οΈ
10:47 AM CaptHindsight[m]: He make for good! Yes
11:12 AM perry_j1987: ok https://pastebin.com/raw/gGTEenBP im sitting at the lathe trying to figure out this new generated config to get synchronous movement working so i can thread
11:12 AM perry_j1987: went through it last night and could not see a problem
11:45 AM silopolis[m]: <roguish[m]> "silopolis: watched a few of your..." <- You mean in my playlist?!
11:45 AM silopolis[m]: Very happy they're useful for someone else.
11:56 AM pcw--home: Usual problems with synchronous motion: no spindle-at-speed, encoder scaling wrong (including wrong direction), Index doesn't work
11:57 AM roguish[m]: silopolis: just searched for freecad path.... but did end up subscribing to your channel. where do I put in feature requests for freecad???
12:12 PM silopolis[m]: <roguish[m]> "silopolis: just searched for..." <- Cool ☺️ renews motivation to curate those 10s of subscriptions lol
12:12 PM silopolis[m]: I believe FreeCAD has a forum first policy where you should create a thread there if none already exist and then eventually create an issue on GitHub
12:13 PM perry_j1987: so might just be invert encoder checkbox pcw--home ?
12:15 PM roguish[m]: ok, i'll look into it. I admit I'm spoiled on Solidwork. I would like to save a particular view (direction, distance). and have the mouse screen manipulations be the same as SW (pan, spin, rotate, zoom, etc....) That's it for now......
12:30 PM pcw--home: Not sure what the invert encoder checkbox does but the spindle encoder must count up in the threading direction
12:31 PM pcw--home: ( + 1 count per turn )
12:32 PM pcw--home: if this is backwards you must change the sign of the encoder scale
12:34 PM pcw--home: if this (encoder direction) or index don't work, LinuxCNC will hang at the start of the threading cycle
12:34 PM perry_j1987: ok
12:47 PM silopolis[m]: <roguish[m]> "ok, i'll look into it. I admit..." <- For the mouse behaviour, there's a preference to change it with a handful of choices IIRC
12:48 PM silopolis[m]: For the saved view, wouldn't bet my left one on this but almost sure it's there too...
12:52 PM silopolis[m]: roguish: https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Mouse_navigation
12:52 PM silopolis[m]: https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Manual:Navigating_in_the_3D_view
12:56 PM perry_j1987: hmm it just keeps hanging when it goes to start threading
12:56 PM perry_j1987: spindle rpm is showing correctly in the gauge
12:57 PM silopolis[m]: roguish: https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?t=19068
12:57 PM silopolis[m]: https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Draft_WorkingPlaneProxy
12:58 PM perry_j1987: if i do hal meter hm2_7i96.0.encoder.00.count and i spin the spindle by hand in the forward position the counted numbers go up
12:59 PM perry_j1987: hm2_7i96.0.encoder.00.input-index just shows false
12:59 PM perry_j1987: when i spin the spindle
01:00 PM perry_j1987: pcw--home the count appears to not be +1 per turn but per tick of the encoder inputs not index?
01:02 PM pcw--home: The _position_ should go up by 1 per forward turn
01:04 PM pcw--home: not the count (the count should increase by encoder PPR x4 per turn)
01:04 PM perry_j1987: ok ya i see that appears to be traveling in negative number for position
01:06 PM pcw--home: so you either need to swap the A/B wiring or change the sign of the encoder scale
01:07 PM perry_j1987: the => or <= stuff?
01:07 PM pcw--home: no (the => and <= do nothing)
01:11 PM perry_j1987: ok looks liek its going in positive direction now
01:12 PM perry_j1987: lets test
01:15 PM perry_j1987: hey it works! heh
01:15 PM perry_j1987: ty for putting up with my n00bness now and then lol
01:44 PM pcw--home: np
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02:56 PM XXCoder: roycroft: hows the counter?
03:21 PM perry_j1987: hmm
03:29 PM Rab: perry_j1987, I ordered one of those Rino rotary stage things from eBay and tested it out last night. It seems to be good quality. Now I need to find a little chuck to mate to it.
03:45 PM perry_j1987: SO anoying fusion 360 wont let me do neg stock to leave axial if i have none for radial
03:48 PM perry_j1987: doing this groove and its coming out .16 too small width wise
03:48 PM perry_j1987: i have not been able to ever chase down what causes that
04:12 PM firephoto__ is now known as firephoto_
04:39 PM CaptHindsight[m]: silopolis: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/45811-promecor-lathe-retrofit-with-tkxhmi
04:40 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.youtube.com/user/QBoxChat/videos
04:50 PM JT-Shop: wow AD plc's are mostly out of stock
05:14 PM JT-Shop: looks like I get to test out the P1K plc that used ardweany
05:17 PM LukePighetti[m]: @Admin @Moderator I'm going to direct everyone from the LinuxCNC discord I created to this one, and delete that one in about 30 days
05:19 PM travis_farmer[m]: i had wondered who created the original... πŸ€”
05:20 PM JT-Shop: oh my I'd have to program the P1K in C!
05:24 PM CaptainHindsight: Luke Pighetti (@_discord_122099004447260672:jauriarts.org) we tried to contact you without any luck a few times
05:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: XXCoder: any ideas on a merge?
06:08 PM Tom_itx: JT-Shop, good for the soul..
06:09 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
06:09 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, avr c?
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08:54 PM pbender22[m] is now known as pbender228461[m]
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09:38 PM roycroft: i picked up a new machine today from the guy who sold me the 8" vise the other day
09:38 PM roycroft: it's a nice rbi hawk 26" scroll saw
09:39 PM roycroft: made in missouri, usa
09:39 PM roycroft: now made in bushton, kansas, as the company went bankrupt and was purchased by a new owner
09:39 PM XXCoder: ahh looks nice
09:40 PM roycroft: i've been wanting a good scroll saw for years - i've been dealing with a crappy harbor-freight class one
09:40 PM roycroft: and holding out for a good deal on a high quality one
09:40 PM roycroft: i don't have room for it in my shop
09:41 PM roycroft: but nevertheless, it's in my shop
09:41 PM XXCoder: old one should make room for it
09:41 PM roycroft: the old one lived inside a cabinet
09:41 PM roycroft: this one is a floor-standing model, and a lot bigger than the old one
09:42 PM roycroft: i'll find a way to squeeze it in decently
09:42 PM XXCoder: :)
09:42 PM roycroft: and it will definitely need some wheels, if not a completely new base
09:43 PM roycroft: it's a fairly recent one, with the loc-line blower tube, and it came with a food pedal
09:43 PM roycroft: i picked it up for $200
09:44 PM roycroft: the current model goes for $1500
09:45 PM Bleepshop|2 is now known as Bleepshop
09:46 PM roycroft: i should probably go cut something with it
09:47 PM roycroft: it's been sitting in my shop for about 3 hours now and i have made no sawdust at all with it
09:47 PM XXCoder: new tools is famously hungry for wood
10:03 PM roycroft: well, to quote doug marcaida, "it will cut"
10:04 PM roycroft: it was a little slow going in 1-1/2" thick ash with a no. 7 blade
10:04 PM XXCoder: lol loved that guy and show
10:04 PM roycroft: but it made the cut, and it made it smoothly and vertically, with no deflection and no burning
10:05 PM roycroft: i purposely gave it a difficult test
10:06 PM roycroft: there's a little more vibration that i would ideally like, but nowhere near the vibration of the cheap one i've been using
10:06 PM roycroft: and i've done nothing to dial it in yet
10:06 PM XXCoder: didnt know there was something to dial in with
10:07 PM roycroft: it will be disassembled, cleaned up, pivot points polished, etc.
10:08 PM roycroft: the one annoyance so far is that the upper blade holder and the lower blade holder have different size screws to hold the blade
10:08 PM roycroft: so i need two hex wrenches to change the blade
10:08 PM XXCoder: weird. wonder why
10:09 PM roycroft: but i think i'll replace the upper socket head cap screw with a knob
10:09 PM XXCoder: knob with set screw?
10:09 PM roycroft: so i'll just need one wrench to change the blade
10:09 PM XXCoder: so its lockable
10:09 PM roycroft: and zero wrenches to release the top of the blade so i can do an inside cut
10:10 PM roycroft: s/wrench/key/
10:10 PM roycroft: and the loc-line is cracked, so i'll have to replace that
10:10 PM roycroft: it's also missing a segment, so it won't go all the way down to the table
10:11 PM XXCoder: any reason to not have both ones lockable knob setting?
10:11 PM roycroft: i'm not sure there's enough clearance below
10:11 PM roycroft: i'll look into it
10:11 PM XXCoder: hmm ok
10:11 PM roycroft: but i use good quality blades
10:12 PM roycroft: as long as i don't abuse the machine while cutting, i should not need to change blades often
10:12 PM XXCoder: yeah
10:12 PM roycroft: but if i'm working on something that requires a lot of inside cuts, i'll be releasing the top of the blade constantly
10:12 PM XXCoder: mtmwood had shown interesting tool, automated belt saw resharper
10:13 PM XXCoder: mtmwood have been quiet for quite a while, wonder if guy is ok
10:15 PM roycroft: maybe he moved
10:15 PM roycroft: everyone seems to be moving this year
10:15 PM XXCoder: seems to be trend
10:15 PM XXCoder: if I had yt channel thats main focus, id probably be moving now lol
10:20 PM XXCoder: hah had a laugh https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946648141908832336/1014373878795096164/unknown.png
10:25 PM roycroft: https://stores.bushtonhawkstore.com/lower-ultra-blade-holders/
10:25 PM roycroft: it looks like they do have a lower blade holder with a knob now
10:25 PM XXCoder: interesting
10:26 PM roycroft: so i can probably fit one to mine
10:39 PM XXCoder: probably
10:39 PM XXCoder: dont forget you got printer, you can print good sized knobs and such
10:39 PM roycroft: well i'm not going to buy those blade holders
10:40 PM roycroft: first of all, they're on back order
10:40 PM roycroft: second, they olny difference between them and what is knobs vs. socke head cap screws
10:46 PM XXCoder: cool