#linuxcnc Logs

Jun 25 2022

01:10 PM XXCoder: "without single voyage" is kinda inaccurate, it stil had to sail to scrapper place
01:18 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:25 PM Tom_L: by definition they are correct
01:38 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, getting closer to the threading job. I just wont do it till I have all of my cad updates done to the main XY plate
01:39 PM _unreal_: bunch of new holes to add to it at this point
01:39 PM _unreal_: not that I want too. but add on's and features
01:39 PM _unreal_: when this design is done I may even put it up as digital plans on my etsy
01:46 PM _unreal_: ok that should be about right. now I have a good adjustment in in the mag relay. and need only to drill a hole and glue in a magnet into the dust shoe axis armature, once that has been built.
01:47 PM _unreal_: and if everything goes as planed I should have all the play Ineed
02:40 PM _unreal_: I think I'm happy with what I have done so far at this point.
03:05 PM _unreal_: I'm trying to decide how I want to create the dust shoe interface attachment system
03:12 PM _unreal_: if I want it to just be a FIXED design with a final magnetic receiver tray. or if I want it to be a bunch of specific designed brush shoe boxes that have there own features
03:13 PM JT-Shop2: hmm the DRO on the thickness planer is off by 0.0005" I guess I can live with that
03:13 PM XXCoder: yeah wood projects tend to be not that sensive
03:14 PM travis_farmer: not generally...
03:15 PM _unreal_: well that just freaked me out. just got an amazon package
03:15 PM _unreal_: GT2 belt
03:15 PM _unreal_: for this project. the label has an error in it. it says 5mm pitch 2mm width.. totally backwards
03:16 PM _unreal_: for a second I was like WWWWTTTTTFFFFF
03:18 PM c101horse8332[m]: i ordered a 3d touchprobe today
03:20 PM travis_farmer: i hope it is better than the one i bought first... it had visible runout when turned slowly...
03:22 PM c101horse8332[m]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004229114357.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.45991802jkQZ1u bought this one
03:23 PM XXCoder: travis_farmer: no centering adjustments?
03:24 PM c101horse8332[m]: dont look like it
03:24 PM c101horse8332[m]: ill see
03:24 PM travis_farmer: nah, the first one turned out to be a 3d printed body
03:24 PM travis_farmer: i was not impressed
03:24 PM XXCoder: if I made one, id model in a way to center it. because its required
03:25 PM travis_farmer: yeah, my second one "says" it is calibrated, but i don't remember if it has centering adjustment
03:25 PM travis_farmer: second one was metal
03:27 PM travis_farmer: i have not tried it yet, as i am still procrastinating on the probe interface circuit
03:29 PM travis_farmer: i have a tool sensor and 3d probe that needs to use the same input. but one is active-high, the other is normally-closed switch... i may just use two Mesa inputs, and use an OR logic in HAL
03:31 PM XXCoder: cool :)
03:54 PM JT-Shop2: one side of the egg box is glued up
03:58 PM _unreal_: egg box?
04:03 PM XXCoder: chicken egg box
04:04 PM _unreal_: hum
04:05 PM JT-Shop2: yep a duck egg would be too big
04:21 PM travis_farmer: velociraptor, or bird-of-prey raptor ;)
04:23 PM XXCoder: honestly less dangerous than kangaroos though
04:23 PM XXCoder: those, they grip your sholders and use powerful legs to desbowel you
04:24 PM travis_farmer: i will stick with the Maine Black Flies... only worry there is if you get anemic from too many bites ;)
04:27 PM _unreal_: travis_farmer, if only you were kidding
04:28 PM travis_farmer: yeah, no kidding. down under, you worry about the dingo's eating your baby. up here in Maine, it is the Black Flies ;)
04:30 PM _unreal_: I've had days in the summer that grilling got fucked up because so many bugs got attracked to the grill and got into the food.
04:31 PM XXCoder: yummy grilled bugs?
04:31 PM travis_farmer: um, eew. it's edible... but eew
04:37 PM _unreal_: sooooo... one of these controller boards I am taking apart has an interesting thing on it
04:38 PM _unreal_: its a modem on chip
04:38 PM _unreal_: xecom DWEMM00BXE2420G
04:38 PM _unreal_: AND NOT just any modem
04:39 PM _unreal_: https://www.cermetek.com/Catalog/Low-Speed-Modems/DataSheet/XE2420G.pdf
04:39 PM _unreal_: its so cool I am tempted to pull it off of the board
05:05 PM CloudEvil: I think I have a sample of that somewhere, from back when it was cool.
05:06 PM _unreal_: ?
05:06 PM CloudEvil: The modem chip.
05:06 PM _unreal_: I'm just trying to figure out what to do with it if anything
05:13 PM andypugh: I have an error message compiling some C. I have ficed it now, but it has left me with a question:
05:13 PM andypugh: “error: expected ‘:’ or ‘...’ before ‘;’
05:13 PM andypugh: What would “…” do in a switch/case block do?
05:14 PM XXCoder: wonder if thats shorthand for "other" case?
05:14 PM XXCoder: aka not meeting any entries so far
05:15 PM XXCoder: its default: for that so dunno
05:17 PM XXCoder: only other thing I can think of is ... is actually short of something longer
05:17 PM XXCoder: I dont see why they would shorten error message but...
05:53 PM JT-Shop2: well that glue up came out nice... I might even finish the egg box by next week now
05:57 PM Tom_L: how many do you collect a week?
05:58 PM t4nk_freenode: yeah, I think the mem is unstable right now :|
06:16 PM _unreal_: good lord my main xz plate looks like a peg board with all of the new holes
06:16 PM _unreal_: oh well
06:22 PM t4nk_freenode: lol, Tom_L .... I guess I'm trying until I'm frying right now :)
06:22 PM t4nk_freenode: it's now decently overclocked
06:24 PM t4nk_freenode: I sure hope I'll find some stable settings eventually, even close to rated
06:27 PM _unreal_: well My tool path is setup. I need only to mill
06:27 PM _unreal_: err get the gcode file to the cnc machine
06:27 PM _unreal_: after I reload my glass with gin
06:27 PM _unreal_: gin and sprite
06:27 PM t4nk_freenode: somehow the compiling process is stable, @3200MHz even, but I'm seeing a lot of errors in dmesg
06:30 PM _unreal_: then it AINT stable
06:30 PM t4nk_freenode: well, you're the expert ;)
06:31 PM _unreal_: at times
06:31 PM t4nk_freenode: don't be modest
06:31 PM t4nk_freenode: :b
06:32 PM _unreal_: I'm not. you should see me when I am LOL
06:33 PM t4nk_freenode: well, I switched back a bit, upped some more voltages... keeping fingers crossed
06:34 PM t4nk_freenode: if it passes compiling a set of packages I got started... it might work
06:37 PM _unreal_: I stopped doing OC a long time ago
06:38 PM t4nk_freenode: I wonder how many ppl go around thinking they have successfully overclocked their mem, or even running at spec, while in truth it runs like an _unreal_ attempting to program a controller, aka not at all ;)
06:38 PM t4nk_freenode: yeah, my goal isn't overclocking though... just meeting the rated speeds
06:40 PM t4nk_freenode: but really, your system can appear to be running 'just fine'.. and you won't find out unless you're doing some specific stuff
06:41 PM t4nk_freenode: I should clean my cpu cooler asap too
06:42 PM _unreal_: always an option
06:43 PM XXCoder: abom lathe is insane
06:43 PM XXCoder: hes working on rod thats very long
06:49 PM roycroft: for that laundry machine gear?
06:49 PM XXCoder: axle for it
06:50 PM roycroft: if that's the one you're taking about, it's a small shaft for him
06:50 PM roycroft: look at some of his videos from a few years ago
06:50 PM XXCoder: hes safely working on it
06:50 PM XXCoder: thats what matters
06:50 PM roycroft: that's because he's a properly trained machinist
06:50 PM roycroft: trained by his father and his grandfather
06:51 PM XXCoder: seen supposely trained machinist do dumb stuff but yeah
06:51 PM * roycroft just got back from the fair
06:51 PM XXCoder: how was fair
06:51 PM roycroft: i think our booth is almost read for inspection
06:51 PM roycroft: the actually fair is not until next month
06:51 PM XXCoder: ok
06:51 PM roycroft: i'm just doing booth repairs at the moment
06:52 PM roycroft: https://roycroft.us/Booth44-Pre-Fair.jpeg
06:52 PM roycroft: that's our booth in a typical year pre-fair
06:53 PM roycroft: this year the vegetation is more a jungle, since we haven't had a fair in almost 3 years
06:53 PM roycroft: https://roycroft.us/Booth44.jpeg
06:53 PM roycroft: and that's our booth during the fair
06:55 PM XXCoder: nice
06:55 PM XXCoder: wish I can visit lol
06:57 PM roycroft: there were a lot of people there today, but not like i expected
06:58 PM roycroft: we may have a lot fewer booths open this year than anticipated
06:58 PM roycroft: we thought about 30% would pass on this year
06:58 PM roycroft: it may be closer to 50%, the way things look
06:58 PM XXCoder: middle of oregon right?
06:59 PM roycroft: the middle of western oregon
06:59 PM roycroft: it's due west of eugene - in veneta
06:59 PM XXCoder: ok
07:00 PM XXCoder: 4 hours apparently
07:00 PM roycroft: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oregon+Country+Fair/@44.0516397,-123.3730253,1103m/data=!3m1!1e3
07:01 PM XXCoder: thanks
07:01 PM roycroft: this would actually be a good year to go, as it won't be as crowded as usual
07:02 PM roycroft: anyway, i have to unload the car and try to get some drawer fronts done today
07:02 PM XXCoder: yeah, though I do have other concerns, like driving safety
07:05 PM XXCoder: still dizzy after all
07:09 PM XXCoder: starts in month, how long does it last?
07:13 PM roycroft: july 8, 9, and 10
07:13 PM roycroft: it's always the second weekend in july, friday through sunday
07:14 PM XXCoder: ok. was thinking maybe my sis would enjoy it
07:14 PM XXCoder: but shes out for month
07:18 PM _unreal_: ugh... just finished ripping all the relays out of this device I got from work
07:18 PM _unreal_: anyone looking for any super high power mechanical relays?
07:19 PM _unreal_: 50amp 110-500v rated
07:19 PM _unreal_: as always if anyone is looking for any thing. ASK I may have it. and looking to get $ rid of it
07:21 PM XXCoder: roycroft: well ill wait few days to see if I can do it or not. it sucks that my ability to have a trip varies across time
07:22 PM XXCoder: im been here at house for way too long. I barely even go to stores lol
07:29 PM _unreal_: so I'm assuming no one is interested
07:30 PM roycroft: xxcoder: i decided to check out my printer before working on my drawer fronts
07:30 PM roycroft: the problem is not the printer - it's the filament
07:30 PM roycroft: i dismantled the hot end and nothing was clogged
07:30 PM XXCoder: interesting. whats happening with fila?
07:30 PM roycroft: i installed a new nozzle, and it jammed right away
07:31 PM roycroft: then i cut off all the filament that hd gone through the extruder, to work with some fresh stuff
07:31 PM roycroft: i could feel the bumps with my fingers as i passed it through my hand
07:31 PM roycroft: i'll go measure it later, but the problem is definitely the filament
07:31 PM XXCoder: yeah bumps isnt good
07:32 PM roycroft: i'm almost at the end of this spool, so perhaps i'll go mount a new one and see what happens
07:32 PM roycroft: this was what i was afraid of with using cheap filament
07:32 PM roycroft: but the test spools that i bought worked fine
07:33 PM roycroft: so i figured i'd be ok
07:33 PM XXCoder: yeah gst3d they usually do good job
07:33 PM roycroft: i'll need to contact them after i take some measurements
07:33 PM roycroft: i have no idea what their customer service is like
07:33 PM roycroft: so i'm not going to judge them yet
07:34 PM roycroft: i'll document the problem, present it to them, and see what they do about it
07:34 PM XXCoder: i wonder if yours was end of run, or start
07:34 PM XXCoder: but yeah not good
07:43 PM roycroft: i have nine other spools of their stuff in stock
07:43 PM roycroft: when i get into the more i'll have a better idea of the consistency of their product
07:43 PM XXCoder: we have bunch more, and ran out of few rolls
07:43 PM roycroft: i've already printed two spools of their filament without issue
07:43 PM XXCoder: well hope they handle it well
07:43 PM XXCoder: im surpised because it was recommanded by someone who used probably 50 of em to empty
07:43 PM XXCoder: he runs print factory
07:46 PM XXCoder: seems presale is full, cannot order
07:56 PM TurBoss: hello
07:58 PM XXCoder: yo
07:59 PM TurBoss: o/
07:59 PM XXCoder: whats up
07:59 PM TurBoss: not much
08:01 PM XXCoder: same
08:21 PM _unreal_: GOOD LORD... ok so I have seven of these c25dnb350a
08:21 PM _unreal_: if anyone is interested I'll sell them. other wise I'll post them on one of the action places
08:31 PM t4nk_freenode: $$$$!!!
08:40 PM XXCoder: pretty expensive allright
09:28 PM XXCoder: roycroft: whats event name again or is it Oregon Country Fair
10:24 PM _unreal_: those relays are 110v coil power.
10:24 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop2, on the joints, if it is an Angular axis a provision for WRAPPED_ROTARY should be available
10:24 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, ^^
10:32 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, on the Spindle tab, if Analog is selected and max rpm is set, PID Settings are greyed out but Max Output in the PID Settings must match Max rpm
10:33 PM Tom_L: no way to set that
10:46 PM skunkwor1s: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HfYAphNgC23ydoK88
10:46 PM skunkwor1s is now known as skunkworks
10:47 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, a runtime error occurs if DEADBAND is left empty. i think DEADBAND is optional
10:47 PM Tom_L: skunkworks, what's new?
10:47 PM skunkworks: vice - birthday present..
10:48 PM Tom_L: i thought it looked a little shinier than the rest
10:48 PM skunkworks: right!?
10:48 PM Tom_L: that won't last :)
10:48 PM Tom_L: what brand?
10:49 PM skunkworks: uh - I would have to ask. Some company dad has ordered other stuff from
10:49 PM Tom_L: ahh
10:49 PM Tom_L: you could have said kurt and i would have believed ya
10:49 PM Tom_L: aren't they blue as well?
10:49 PM skunkworks: lol - no. dad has a kurt of the sameish size.. I am afraid to use it.
10:50 PM skunkworks: I think they are.
10:53 PM skunkworks: Have to figure out how and where I am going to mount it on the table
10:54 PM Tom_L: that can be an issue on a small mill/table
10:54 PM XXCoder: certainly looks kurt-like
10:54 PM XXCoder: not kind I ever used but yeah
10:55 PM XXCoder: us slots near fixed jaws for bolting down?
10:55 PM skunkworks: jogging the mill around - if forgot how big the travel is.. It should be pretty forgiving where I mount it
10:56 PM skunkworks: 10X7.4X11.7
10:56 PM XXCoder: pretty many options. I saw ones at center, sometimes at a end of table
10:56 PM XXCoder: moved inward enough for clearance of most tools
10:56 PM skunkworks: I would not be adverse to drilling some holes if needed
10:57 PM skunkworks: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rt3fNZhQs3VwpxZq6
10:57 PM XXCoder: dont know how that jaws design is, but can you add bolt holes?
10:58 PM XXCoder: looking closelt, seems it depends on clamps alone?
10:59 PM skunkworks: there are some slotted areas - we have done it to other vises to aid in mounting..
10:59 PM XXCoder: interesting
10:59 PM skunkworks: XXCoder: yes - I would agree - toe clamps
11:00 PM XXCoder: slots in sides allow for stronget clamps
11:01 PM XXCoder: doh. yes toe clamps lol
11:01 PM XXCoder: ok lemme think a sec
11:01 PM XXCoder: I was thinking mitee clamps lol
11:01 PM skunkworks: you had me wondering if I was using the right words..
11:02 PM XXCoder: though you might be able to design a custom clamop for lower profile?
11:02 PM skunkworks: sure - we have done that too
11:02 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/Final/Vise_parts/table_slot1.jpg
11:02 PM Tom_L: i had to make my own slot
11:02 PM skunkworks: I was planning on making a fixture plate for the table - would help in mounting optoins
11:02 PM XXCoder: sorry, todays pretty bad for me. heavy dizzyness and headache
11:03 PM skunkworks: Tom_L: cool! that is what you do when you create the whole machine..
11:03 PM Tom_L: skunkworks, my bud does everything off a fixture plate
11:03 PM XXCoder: so skunk your vase has a slot connector in bottom? one that helps you align jaws faster?
11:03 PM Tom_L: with tapped & reamed holes every other one
11:03 PM skunkworks: yes - both directions.
11:04 PM XXCoder: ok
11:04 PM XXCoder: I used standard ones all time at last job. the had slots also never used em
11:04 PM skunkworks: Tom_L: I have been spoiled with the tombstone and angle plate on the k&t
11:04 PM skunkworks: so easy to mount random things
11:05 PM skunkworks: I have to make some special alignment keys - the t-slots are narrower than the vise
11:06 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/Final/chip_guards/Chip_guard1.jpg
11:06 PM Tom_L: you need a handle like mine now too
11:06 PM skunkworks: Neat - kinda like a speed handle
11:06 PM Tom_L: i don't think i've ever used the one that came with it
11:07 PM skunkworks: too big? http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/wrenchscale.JPG
11:07 PM Tom_L: wtf!
11:08 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/wrench.JPG
11:08 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: I use a 1/2" ratchet and extension as a vise handle. Works well when the table extends past the end of the vice.
11:09 PM skunkworks: we have used this on some chucks...
11:09 PM skunkworks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234559207654?hash=item369cd178e6:g:qrcAAOSwHudihp~6&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4KqbPFmiDfkbWm0OH8AYFsHAd0%2FGFSO188asiaknLc6Fh3%2BTZNYqC9NaZLuK7HPNdOGoWty8%2FNbsfZxPZnlSpXCSP6rR7jb0eNjH%2BcrdZMbr1LeMD8J1TtAn2z1PLdxLXMoQoA026pfP2PXFGOrRcE0GGrbcabU4V3uN1f0WcIlnfBVFSRoDUG%2FmU1qj84lnCzv6yfWvSnTPBjR6fd9vt5sjzF6Pk4czADZLtsPTAn5TQyQVIakWl6JYr7l8fXpGSbULTc5r28R%2Bnvz6I5zH5kDoIjYlOjEPEWHuIr
11:10 PM skunkworks: rEaycW%7Ctkp%3ABFBM3qmZ47Ng
11:10 PM skunkworks: ew
11:10 PM roycroft: s/\?hash.*// , please :)
11:10 PM skunkworks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234559207654
11:10 PM roycroft: thank you
11:11 PM XXCoder: link worked anyway lol hash had some tracking stuff
11:11 PM XXCoder: well with it cut off its bit invalid anyway
11:11 PM skunkworks: my bad
11:11 PM XXCoder: roy what event is it again?
11:11 PM roycroft: no
11:11 PM roycroft: ebay's bad
11:11 PM roycroft: what event?
11:11 PM XXCoder: yeah. skunk your link worked anyway
11:12 PM XXCoder: Oregon Country Fair
11:12 PM roycroft: what about it?
11:12 PM roycroft: i have one of those, skunkworks
11:12 PM XXCoder: roy so its the event name? we wasnt sure what exactly kind of event it was
11:13 PM roycroft: yes, it's the oregon country fair
11:13 PM roycroft: that is the name of the event
11:13 PM roycroft: it's a big party put on by hippies for hippies
11:13 PM XXCoder: oh lol thought it was site the rents lots
11:13 PM XXCoder: ie event center rental
11:14 PM XXCoder: ok so i was correct. thanks :) my bro probably will be more interested
11:14 PM roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hguNpxN3Zo8
11:21 PM Tom_L: ok i got a working config from JT-Cave's tool. it's actually very good
11:22 PM Tom_L: a few settings i wasn't using on my original configs so i wasn't used to them
11:22 PM XXCoder: nice
11:22 PM Tom_L: some settings a noob won't know how to set
11:24 PM Tom_L: but for someone that has never used a config tool, this was quite helpful to get a basic config