#linuxcnc Logs

Jun 21 2022

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01:07 AM Deejay: moin
01:12 AM CaptHindsight[m]: Deejay: howdy
01:13 AM Deejay: hey cap
01:19 AM CaptHindsight[m]: Deejay: what time is it there?
01:22 AM roycroft: it's howdy doody time!
01:22 AM XXCoder: heys
01:32 AM XXCoder: I printed the male side of japanese joinery
01:32 AM XXCoder: plan to do other side tomorrow lolo
01:32 AM XXCoder: yep im that bored
01:32 AM CaptHindsight[m]: am on a fresh install of RockyLinux
01:32 AM XXCoder: I need to do a reinstall soon'
01:32 AM * roycroft is going to bed
01:32 AM XXCoder: night roy
01:32 AM CaptHindsight[m]: bed != sleep
01:32 AM XXCoder: well I said night anyway, because in either case hes not returning for a while.
01:32 AM CaptHindsight[m]: what if he has a nighmare?
03:36 AM travis_farmer: G'Morning, is JT alive on here yet?
04:20 AM unterhaus: it's 4:20 am where JT is, if he's up then he's out communing with the chickens
04:21 AM unterhaus: 04:20 for 24hr clock people
04:21 AM travis_farmer: ...true, i forgot about the time it was when i posted...
04:22 AM travis_farmer: i keep forgetting that not everybody wakes up as early as i do ;)
04:41 AM Tom_L: morning
04:52 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:53 AM travis_farmer: hey JT, you said last night about me registering on the forum??? the LinuxCNC forum? i have been a member for a while, as travis036...
04:54 AM JT-Cave: I saw a travis_farmer
04:55 AM travis_farmer: Hmmm, strange, wasn't me...
04:57 AM travis_farmer: as long as they are not trying to impersonate me...
05:02 AM JT-Cave: now I can'f find it lol
05:02 AM travis_farmer: lol
05:03 AM JT-Cave: oh wait here it is
05:03 AM JT-Cave: user name travisfarmer
05:03 AM JT-Cave: registered same date as you so it must have been you
05:04 AM travis_farmer: really... hmmm, maybe i tried, forgot my password, and tried another name, and don't remember...
05:07 AM travis_farmer: pretty sure i have been using travis036 for a while... i am listed as an "Elite Member"
05:10 AM JT-Cave: yep it was 15 minutes prior to travis036
05:10 AM JT-Cave: I guess I need to delete it
05:10 AM JT-Cave: you used an outlook email
05:11 AM travis_farmer: just don't delete travis036 ;)
05:12 AM travis_farmer: yeah, i still have the outlook email, so it must have been me
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07:58 AM JT-Cave: crap something ate my first ripe tomatoes last night
07:59 AM travis_farmer: well, heck... isn't that always the way ;)
08:24 AM serp: sorry.. they were delicious
08:24 AM travis_farmer: lol
10:07 AM roycroft: it's another glorious day here in oregon
10:20 AM travis_farmer: it is already too hot to work outside, here
10:32 AM roycroft: it's not going to get hot here - just perfect
10:32 AM roycroft: i'll be complaining about the heat soon, but that will probably be a couple weeks from now
10:33 AM travis_farmer: outside is not super hot, but hot enough that my workshop (old gutted camper trailer) is heated like an oven...
10:44 AM roycroft: you need a big fan
10:45 AM travis_farmer: yeah, i need to be able to build my new shop... with insulation and eventually A/C
10:46 AM CloudEvil: I hate it when it gets super-hot outside. The jumping is hard.
11:06 AM * roycroft doesn't do too much jumping these days
11:06 AM roycroft: i tend to mosey, rather than jump
11:42 AM roycroft: it looks like it's going to get hot on saturday and sunday
11:42 AM roycroft: i'll hold off on the complaining, though
12:49 PM Tom_L: ok mowing is done just in time for hot to kick into high gear
12:49 PM travis_farmer: you forgot my lawn, though... ;)
12:52 PM roycroft: i need to mow the back yard today after work
12:52 PM travis_farmer: Tom_L will get it for you, he is nice like that ;)
12:55 PM roycroft: the heat of the day here will probably feel like the middle of the night to him, the way things have been back east lately
01:03 PM Tom_L: just 96F right now
01:06 PM roycroft: maybe in a month or so it will get that hot here
01:06 PM roycroft: low 30s this weekend, but probably not any hotter than that for a while
01:06 PM travis_farmer: go ahead and brag... ;)
01:07 PM roycroft: i'm not bragging
01:07 PM roycroft: as wet as things are, we could use a prolonged heat wave
01:07 PM travis_farmer: was just kidding, anyway ;)
01:08 PM roycroft: today's project could turn out to be interesting
01:08 PM roycroft: i have a backup server at a data center
01:08 PM roycroft: i use it to do our system backups
01:08 PM roycroft: my boss hates it because he can't just peruse files there - it's not intended to do that
01:09 PM roycroft: there are other tools for doing snapshots/backups of development systems
01:09 PM travis_farmer: no, of course it isn't, that would screw things up
01:09 PM roycroft: our primary backup server is for me to be able to restore a machine on new hardware if it dies
01:10 PM roycroft: anyway, he's using wasabi (amazon s3 compatible) as a cloud backup service for his website development, but he complains about the cost, even though it's really cheap
01:10 PM roycroft: i have about 15TB of free disk space on the backup server, so i set up an sftp server on it
01:10 PM roycroft: the backup tools we use for the websites can back up to s3 or sftp, or several other cloud systems
01:11 PM roycroft: so i set it up and configured some websites to use it for cloud backups
01:11 PM roycroft: my boss is convinced that it's some proprietary thing that only i can manage and access
01:11 PM travis_farmer: lol
01:11 PM roycroft: i've told him to go to one of the websites, back it up to the cloud, and tell me what he thinks
01:12 PM roycroft: he has it fixed in his mind that this sftp server is somehow part of the main backup software
01:12 PM roycroft: and i can't convince him otherwise
01:12 PM roycroft: anyway, there some drawbacks to using sftp vs s3 storage
01:12 PM roycroft: so today i'm installing some s3 service software on the backup machine
01:13 PM roycroft: that should work out ok, but then i have to convince my boss that he can back up to our server and not wasabi, and that it will work *exactly* like wasabi
01:13 PM roycroft: that's the part that could get interesting
01:13 PM travis_farmer: "well why couldn't it do that before" ;) i can picture him asking
01:14 PM roycroft: s3 is s3 is s3
01:14 PM CloudEvil: But if you put the cloud on your own computer, isn't that cheating?
01:14 PM roycroft: in fact, in the plugin that does the backups, when we configure it, we select "amazon s3"
01:14 PM roycroft: but then use the wasabi hostname
01:15 PM roycroft: why is social engineering so much harder than any other kind of engineering?
01:15 PM travis_farmer: wait... 15TB!!! my backup server sadly only has 3.5TB :(
01:16 PM roycroft: that's 15TB that isn't allocated for the main system backups already
01:16 PM roycroft: it is what was my /scratch partition
01:16 PM roycroft: but keep in mind that i work for an isp
01:16 PM roycroft: we host hundreds of websites and thousands of email accounts
01:17 PM travis_farmer: i host one website (so far...) and my email account...
01:57 PM JT-Shop: no nesco at salvation army but they did have a unique smell
02:29 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 110F at the air intake to the AC's in the shade
02:30 PM CaptHindsight[m]: (condenser coils)
02:40 PM roycroft: that's unfortunate that they did not have the dehydrator
02:40 PM roycroft: but at least you got to experience some eau d'trailer park
02:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: should be hot and sunny enough this week to just setup a glass enclosure and dehydrate outdoors
02:42 PM roycroft: he's looking for something to dry spools of filament consistently and reliably
02:42 PM CaptHindsight[m]: filament greenhouse
02:42 PM roycroft: that might get too hot
02:42 PM roycroft: pla should be dried at 42-45 degrees
02:42 PM travis_farmer: would be puddles of filament ;)
02:42 PM roycroft: a greenhouse can get up to 60 easily
02:42 PM JT-Shop: roycroft, did you take any photos of your hot end when you assembled it?
02:42 PM roycroft: and beyond, potentially
02:42 PM roycroft: no
02:42 PM roycroft: but i can probably answer questions
02:43 PM roycroft: did you disassemble the old one yet?
02:43 PM XXCoder: roycroft: can have pid controlled ceiling glass, opens when get bit too hot lol
02:43 PM travis_farmer: sounds like a personal question JT ;)
02:43 PM roycroft: because if you didn't, don't
02:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: nah small PC exhaust fan and temp sensor
02:43 PM XXCoder: fans too
02:43 PM roycroft: oh, i got a new mount for the hot end as well
02:43 PM roycroft: so what i did may not work for you
02:44 PM JT-Shop: working on disassembling it
02:44 PM XXCoder: your mount broke?
02:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: make beef jerky and dry filament
02:44 PM JT-Shop: down to the extruder nozzle and the guide tube
02:44 PM roycroft: don't yet
02:44 PM roycroft: you need to print some parts first :)
02:44 PM XXCoder: beef jerky scented filament lol
02:44 PM JT-Shop: opps
02:44 PM JT-Shop: what do I need?
02:45 PM roycroft: well maybe
02:45 PM roycroft: give me a minute
02:45 PM JT-Shop: ok
02:45 PM roycroft: i got this when i ordered the hot end:
02:45 PM roycroft: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085WFHJFC/
02:46 PM roycroft: and then i went to the klemco website and downloaded the stl files for the brackets and stuff that i needed
02:46 PM roycroft: sorry, i just remembered that i had purchased a new mounting bracket
02:47 PM roycroft: https://www.klemco.net/printable-accessories/
02:47 PM roycroft: you'll need at least the strain relief
02:47 PM XXCoder: if you had mk3s or mini, would be able to order plastic parts too
02:47 PM XXCoder: painful shipping but yeah
02:47 PM roycroft: and if you got big fans you'll need the fan shrouds
02:48 PM roycroft: i am not sure that the volcano hot end will mount to the stock mounting bracket
02:48 PM JT-Shop: do you use the red part from the stock hot end?
02:48 PM roycroft: but at the very least, hold off on disassembly until you know
02:48 PM roycroft: i completely removed the stock hot end
02:49 PM JT-Shop: well it's apart lol
02:49 PM JT-Shop: ok
02:49 PM roycroft: and that may be the reason i got the other bracket
02:49 PM roycroft: theoretically, i can swap the old hot end back in in a couple minutes
02:49 PM roycroft: i should just need to disconnect the bowden tube and all the electrical connectors, remove the volcano, install the stock one, and hook everything back up
02:50 PM JT-Shop: after it cools down I'll put it back together lol
02:50 PM roycroft: i've not done that, but i did remove the old one as a unit so that i could swap it back in
02:50 PM roycroft: my intent was, and still is, to use the volcano to print all these hardware boxes, and then install the stock one again so i can make higher quality prints
02:50 PM JT-Shop: did you use some push in connectors for the element?
02:50 PM roycroft: i bought connectors that are compatible with the stock unit
02:51 PM roycroft: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071HFPXBD
02:52 PM roycroft: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078WPT5M1
02:52 PM roycroft: i really wanted to be able to swap the hot ends back and forth without any fuss
02:56 PM JT-Shop: I have that I think
02:57 PM XXCoder: roy and with hotend adjustment along z, you wont even need to adjust bed or live z either
02:57 PM roycroft: https://roycroft.us/VolcanoHotEnd.jpeg
02:57 PM roycroft: that's not the neatest wiring job ever done
02:57 PM roycroft: but it's good enough to get me through this project
02:58 PM XXCoder: bit concerned with one hanging in front of fan lol
02:58 PM roycroft: i extended all the wires from the fans, the sensor, and the hot end power back to the base of the unit, where they meet the stock connectors
02:58 PM roycroft: it's farther away from the fan than it looks in the picture
02:58 PM roycroft: oh, and if you did not read this already
02:58 PM roycroft: be VERY careful when you secure the thermal sensor
02:59 PM roycroft: it's easy to overtighten it, and if you do, you crush it and destroy it
02:59 PM JT-Shop: ok thanks
03:00 PM roycroft: like tighten the grub screw until it contacts the sensor, then snug it just a wee bit
03:01 PM roycroft: and now that i think more about it, i think the volcano hot end will mount to the stock bracket
03:01 PM roycroft: i think i got the new one just to be able to swap them easily
03:02 PM roycroft: i had just gotten my epson label printer when i did that mod, so i was able to put nice shrink tube labels on the far end of the wiring harness
03:08 PM JT-Shop: did you rotate the extruder? the inlet is very close to the leadscrew
03:11 PM roycroft: i don't think so
03:11 PM roycroft: i have an ender 5
03:11 PM roycroft: but you can mount the extruder wherever you want
03:12 PM JT-Shop: it just looked close until I put some material between the feed roller and the pinch roller
03:19 PM roycroft: i just ran across a picture i took exactly a month ago today of my cabinet project
03:20 PM roycroft: i had just installed the five carcases, and had screwed them together
03:20 PM roycroft: i remember how good i felt to be at that point
03:20 PM roycroft: but now i look at it and there are no drawers, and it looks so empty and unfinished
03:21 PM roycroft: also, the counter top was relatively uncluttered back then
03:22 PM roycroft: i really should not have ever joined the royal society for putting things on top of other things
03:22 PM roycroft: my life has been nothing but a living hell ever since
03:22 PM XXCoder: lol
03:22 PM Tom_L: but you're not brittish
03:23 PM roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFrdqQZ8FFc
03:23 PM Tom_L: the only thing 'royal' i know of here is crown royal
03:23 PM roycroft: in case you did not get the reference
03:23 PM Tom_L: sure didn't
03:23 PM Tom_L: oh ok
03:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Python has pretty much covered every authority worth satirizing
04:00 PM XXCoder: 518r here. not too bad
04:01 PM roguish[m]: 96.3 AND rinsing here............ forecast 100+
04:05 PM JT-Shop: checked the flea store up at the highway and no nesco
04:10 PM Tom_L: only 98 here now
04:12 PM XXCoder: 98c wow thats hot
04:19 PM XXCoder: roycroft: bahhh I went to gst3d to order 3 rolls, and theyre basically completely out lol
04:22 PM travis_farmer: i think this laptop is in need of a good thrashing... i hate that most of my software needs windowz. the "windows explorer" service keeps crashing. sometimes i can recover by restarting the service... this time i had to do a hard-shutdown to bring it back... what a PITA!!! (sorry for the rant)
04:30 PM travis_farmer: ... and apparently i killed the conversation... sorry
04:37 PM roycroft: yes, they are out of most things, xxcoder
04:37 PM roycroft: that's why i ordered some spools from atomic to keep going
04:37 PM roycroft: some colors i don't need 10 of, so i went to order individual spools, but gst3d have virtually nothing in stock that is interesting
04:38 PM roycroft: but until that $2 part arrives i won't be doing any printing anyway
04:42 PM XXCoder: true
04:48 PM JT-Shop: so I need a linux slicer, what's a good one now a days?
04:49 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i used Slic3r
04:49 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Cura is popular
04:50 PM JT-Shop: I think I've use all of them at one time or another
04:50 PM * JT-Shop doesn't care for linux software that uses an appimage
04:51 PM XXCoder: I just use prusaslicer because I use a prusa slicer. heard cura is veru good nowdaysprint speeds being faster etc
04:51 PM XXCoder: *use prusa printer
04:52 PM roycroft: i use ultimaker cura on my mac - i'm pretty sure there's a linux version of that as well
04:52 PM XXCoder: unlike cnc cam, theres no slicer that dont come for linux
04:53 PM XXCoder: funny, that
04:54 PM JT-Shop: I've used slic3r, cura and repetier-host
04:54 PM XXCoder: even old paid slicer had windows macos and linux. (its not worth buying, they are very obselete now)
04:54 PM XXCoder: theres superslicer too
04:55 PM XXCoder: its essentally fork from prusaprinter, but meets more standard printers, and has some more features, but behind prusaslcier in some ways
04:55 PM JT-Shop: cura only offers an Appimage
04:55 PM XXCoder: they dont even offer flatpack?
04:55 PM JT-Shop: what is that?
04:55 PM XXCoder: erm flatpak I meant
04:56 PM JT-Shop: ok what is flatpak
04:56 PM XXCoder: its similiar to linux apt but it includes everything program needs and dont depend on system
04:56 PM andypugh: Today’s milling didn’t really go to plan. https://photos.app.goo.gl/g75rWWbFXz3QQDtG6
04:57 PM XXCoder: cura exists in flatpak
04:57 PM JT-Shop: hmm slic3r is still 1.3.0 after 3 years or more
04:57 PM XXCoder: yeah essentally dead
04:59 PM JT-Shop: andypugh, did you take a ball peen hammer to the controls?
04:59 PM XXCoder: flatpak cura is at 4.x version. 5.x is version they improved a lot on slicing
04:59 PM JT-Shop: and a stack of 123 blocks!
04:59 PM JT-Shop: where is flatpak cura?
04:59 PM andypugh: A bearing in the Z feed (that I had forgotten even exists) has filled with rusty crud and aiezed up.
05:00 PM XXCoder: jt you'll have to install flatpak first
05:00 PM XXCoder: sudo apt install flatpak
05:00 PM XXCoder: then you do this
05:00 PM XXCoder: flatpak install cura
05:00 PM XXCoder: it'll confirm if you want this blah blah follow prompts and its installed
05:00 PM XXCoder: but its older version so meh not worth it i think
05:00 PM XXCoder: https://ultimaker.com/learn/ultimaker-cura-5-0-stable-release
05:01 PM JT-Shop: A new version, finally! Despite the long time since the last versioned release, work on Slic3r has never stopped. Daily automated builds are available on this website, so this release is not entirely new for all people who have been following development.
05:01 PM JT-Shop: Release notes for 1.3.0 (2018-05-10)
05:01 PM XXCoder: 5.0 is appimage only it looks like
05:01 PM JT-Shop: no new version since mid 2018
05:02 PM XXCoder: uninstalled old cura
05:03 PM roycroft: i'm running ultimaker 5.0 now
05:03 PM XXCoder: yeah I plan to try evenually
05:03 PM roycroft: it can co-exist with 4.x
05:03 PM XXCoder: because seems it have vastly, vastly. improved pathing
05:03 PM JT-Shop: looks like I need to reboot for flatpak
05:04 PM roycroft: yes, the slicer engine is almost a total rewrite in 5.0
05:04 PM XXCoder: no reason for me to retain cura 4
05:04 PM roycroft: well i'd keep it until i was pretty sure that all my models sliced in 4.x load fine in 5.x
05:05 PM roycroft: i don't keep old software installed indefinitely, but i do like to have a transition period
05:05 PM roycroft: that said, i haven't encountered any problems at all with 5.0
05:05 PM XXCoder: yeah. though I never started with cura 4.0 so there was no transition
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05:05 PM XXCoder: i still remember horrible cura 1 lol
05:06 PM JT-Shop: john@d10shop:~$ flatpak install cura
05:06 PM JT-Shop: Looking for matches…
05:06 PM JT-Shop: error: No remote refs found similar to ‘cura’
05:06 PM XXCoder: weird. wonder if they use different sources for different oses
05:07 PM XXCoder: im using xfce mint
05:07 PM JT-Shop: dunno
05:08 PM XXCoder: you having to reboot is bit weird
05:08 PM XXCoder: I didnt have to
05:08 PM XXCoder: oh cura found my old mp mini profile
05:09 PM XXCoder: I gave away that machine lol
05:13 PM * JT-Shop gives up on flatpak
05:15 PM XXCoder: roycroft: man I hate how cura handles scrolling
05:19 PM JT-Shop: john@d10shop:~/bin$ ls
05:19 PM JT-Shop: camera Cura.AppImage imap-1.py pass.py wb1.py
05:19 PM JT-Shop: john@d10shop:~/bin$ ./Cura.AppImage
05:19 PM JT-Shop: [2692] Error loading Python lib '/tmp/.mount_Cura.AAZY9e5/libpython3.10.so.1.0': dlopen: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.29' not found (required by /tmp/.mount_Cura.AAZY9e5/libpython3.10.so.1.0)
05:20 PM XXCoder: where did you get the file?
05:20 PM XXCoder: mines from https://objects.githubusercontent.com/github-production-release-asset-2e65be/20884782/82cc6715-3b38-45c8-8275-ecf0badcb2b6?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAIWNJYAX4CSVEH53A%2F20220621%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20220621T220125Z&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=69b6f6c9d412046977fac63cbb9048ea1a7ecc68906251aa383919ca63850e65&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&actor_id=151014&key_id=0&repo_id=20884782&response-content
05:20 PM XXCoder: -disposition=attachment%3B%20filename%3DUltimaker-Cura-5.0.0-linux.AppImage&response-content-type=application%2Foctet-stream
05:20 PM JT-Shop: cura
05:20 PM XXCoder: ugh ugly link
05:20 PM JT-Shop: very
05:21 PM JT-Shop: https://ultimaker.com/software/ultimaker-cura
05:21 PM XXCoder: yeah ok
05:21 PM XXCoder: mine just ran directly just fine
05:21 PM JT-Shop: mine did not run
05:22 PM XXCoder: odd. whats you using as os? (besides linux)
05:22 PM XXCoder: mine is xfce mint for example
05:22 PM JT-Shop: debian 10
05:22 PM XXCoder: distro i should say lol. ok
05:22 PM JT-Shop: debian 10
05:23 PM XXCoder: dunno with debian, dont they tend to be fairly slow and behind on software?
05:24 PM JT-Shop: well they make it impossible to download an older version so scr3w them
05:26 PM XXCoder: honestlY I like prusaprinter the best so far
05:26 PM XXCoder: I like how settings work. I always hated how cura just automatically saves everything
05:29 PM JT-Shop: Ubuntu 18.04 is also no longer supported because of the update to Qt6.
05:29 PM JT-Shop: cura 5
05:30 PM XXCoder: https://github.com/supermerill/SuperSlicer/releases
05:30 PM XXCoder: id suggest try that
05:30 PM XXCoder: its like prusaslicer but less specific to prus machines
05:30 PM JT-Shop: found cura 4.13.1
05:31 PM XXCoder: awesome
05:34 PM JT-Shop: it has some issues but it does run
05:37 PM JT-Shop: I forget where all the stl files are...
05:39 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, have you ever tried printing directly from solidworks?
05:42 PM JT-Shop: no
05:42 PM Tom_L: i don't have a printer but i wonder how well that works
05:42 PM JT-Shop: what's that place that has a bunch of stl models
05:43 PM Tom_L: yeah that one
05:43 PM Tom_L: i always think of grabcad but i know what you mean
05:43 PM JT-Shop: I even have an account there lol
05:44 PM Tom_L: thingiverse
05:44 PM Tom_L: or some such thing
05:44 PM Tom_L: https://www.thingiverse.com/
05:44 PM XXCoder: I use printables.com
05:45 PM XXCoder: thingverse I download stuff once a while. you have to modify url to add zip at end to download zip file
05:45 PM Tom_L: i've heard thingiverse isn't that well maintained now
05:45 PM XXCoder: its been broken for years tom
05:45 PM JT-Shop: really?
05:45 PM XXCoder: I cant see my makes for last 3 years
05:45 PM Tom_L: i never use it, i don't have a printer
05:46 PM XXCoder: yeah its lack of maintance is why I now upload to printables.com
05:55 PM roycroft: well the first cabinet is completely done now
05:55 PM JT-Shop: nice
05:55 PM XXCoder: awesome
05:55 PM roycroft: yeah, considering most of the drawers are in the first two
05:56 PM roycroft: i have 17 drawer fronts installed out of 48
05:56 PM roycroft: so over 1/3 done
05:57 PM roycroft: i probably won't get any more installed today though - i have to take the next batch and do final sanding and trimming to length before i can start installing them
05:57 PM roycroft: it would be nice if i could get 2 or 4 done today, just because
05:58 PM roycroft: back when i was doing this for a living i worked out of a much bigger shop, and had nice things like a drawer clamping rack and a gang grill, and dedicated assembly and finishing tables
05:58 PM roycroft: but i don't think i ever had a job with this many drawers back then
05:58 PM JT-Shop: roycroft, I have root access to the forum so maybe this weekend if you have time to coach me on diagnosing sendmail
05:58 PM roycroft: not this coming weekend
05:59 PM roycroft: i'll be doing booth repairs all day saturday, and i have board meetings from 11 to 6 on sunday
05:59 PM roycroft: but i can spend a little time during the week talking with you
05:59 PM JT-Shop: ok thanks
05:59 PM JT-Shop: the ender seems to be actually printing!
05:59 PM roycroft: or if you feel ok about it, you could tell me what's not working right and give me temporary access to the machine
06:00 PM JT-Shop: that would work too as long as I can learn what to do as well
06:00 PM roycroft: i've been switching over to postfix recently, but i still have several mail servers running sendmail
06:00 PM JT-Shop: sendmail does not send mail
06:00 PM roycroft: of course - i would let you know exactly what i find and how i would fix it
06:01 PM JT-Shop: I did a test send in the admin panel and got nothing
06:01 PM roycroft: do you have shell access?
06:01 PM XXCoder: jt awesome. hope print goes well. im printing other half of joint i recreated
06:01 PM JT-Shop: I have root access
06:01 PM JT-Shop: ssh root
06:01 PM roycroft: ok, so you have shell access
06:01 PM JT-Shop: yup
06:01 PM roycroft: i have to run right now
06:01 PM XXCoder: yeah likely you have prompt of #
06:01 PM JT-Shop: finally got that fixed!
06:02 PM JT-Shop: ok
06:02 PM roycroft: tomorrow morning i'll create a document with a username and password and send you a link to it
06:02 PM roycroft: you can add me as a user, and give me sudo access
06:02 PM JT-Shop: ok
06:02 PM roycroft: and then i'll see if i can figure out what's going on with mail
06:02 PM JT-Shop: wow I can watch the printer from here
06:03 PM JT-Shop: ok thanks a bunch, it's been broken for a while
06:03 PM XXCoder: and while printer is right in front of me, I cant see it lol (computer montiors on way)
06:03 PM XXCoder: its a lie, I can see filament loop top lol
06:03 PM JT-Shop: I have a camera mounted on the ender
06:03 PM roycroft: yesterday was pay day, but the banks were closed, so i have to get there now to deposit my checks
06:03 PM XXCoder: same
06:04 PM JT-Shop: tomorrow is payday for me but it's direct deposit from the eagle
06:05 PM JT-Shop: and the ender seems to be making a good part...
06:06 PM XXCoder: no "payday" till 3rd for me
06:06 PM roycroft: and i think i'll go to lowes and return that jig
06:09 PM JT-Shop: just printed a 10x10x10 box and it came out 10.11x10.06x9.87
06:09 PM JT-Shop: a tad short on z but a good part
06:10 PM JT-Shop: I'm a happy guy now
06:10 PM JT-Shop: time to retire for the night
06:10 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Now print a 20x20x20 and see if it is 20.11x20.06x19.87 🙂
06:47 PM CaptHindsight[m]: inch or mm?
06:49 PM roycroft: i would assume mm, given that it's a small ender printer
06:49 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ok
06:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.creality.com/products/ender-3-3d-printer
06:50 PM XXCoder: 20 inch would be insane
06:50 PM XXCoder: and 20 would be cm not mm :D
06:51 PM XXCoder: 20mm printer would be.., interesting challenge to make lol
06:51 PM DigitalReaper: I don't think i've ever heard of someone using inches for describing a 3D print. metric is the defacto standard in the 3D printing world
06:51 PM DigitalReaper: (as it should be :P)
06:52 PM CaptHindsight[m]: specs say +- 0.1mm accuracy
06:52 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I use inch and mm
06:52 PM CaptHindsight[m]: whatever the customer uses
06:52 PM DigitalReaper: creality isn't big on following specs, if they were they'd think twice about shoving 18A through a 5A connector like they do on a CR-10
06:54 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.creality.com/products/creality-cr-10-smart-pro-3d-printer
06:54 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 18A for what on that?
06:55 PM DigitalReaper: wrong CR-10
06:55 PM CaptHindsight[m]: at 2V or similar?
06:56 PM DigitalReaper: it doesn't appear to be listed on their site anymore, it's the one with the external control box
06:56 PM CaptHindsight[m]: what drew 18A?
06:56 PM DigitalReaper: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creality-Original-Filament-Upgraded-High-Precisio/dp/B07K5B6J4C/
06:56 PM DigitalReaper: the bed. 12V 18A 220W through a GX16-4 connector
06:58 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 3 motors at peak plus heater on full seems like an over estimate
06:58 PM DigitalReaper: 220w is just the bed and 100% power on the bed only gets you to ~80c
07:09 PM Tom_L: pcw--home, got a shipper notice thanks.... what did you find?
08:14 PM XXCoder: damn
08:14 PM XXCoder: I made stupid error with Sumiyoshi-double-tendon
08:28 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, ??????????? Huh??????????????
08:30 PM XXCoder: whoa thats bit of a overkill on question marks
08:30 PM _unreal_: Sumiyoshi-double-tendon???????????
08:31 PM XXCoder: yeah its japanese joinery what about it?
08:31 PM _unreal_: NEVER heard of
08:31 PM XXCoder: yeah everyone has stuff they never heard of :)
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09:04 PM xxcoder8265[m]: looks easy right? its not lol
09:26 PM XXCoder: lofts lofts lofts
09:26 PM XXCoder: so many lofts
11:10 PM XXCoder: finally did it
11:11 PM XXCoder: did it by making cutout then slowly moving male part into, moving it up and forward and ensureing it makes it all way to full insert without conflict
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