#linuxcnc Logs

Jun 19 2022

12:24 AM roycroft: i just made a set of chopsticks
12:32 AM roycroft: they are ok, but not great
12:32 AM roycroft: the plane blade was not very sharp, and the honing guide that was supposed to be included is missing
12:32 AM roycroft: i'll have to contact bridge city and get the honing guide sent, and probably hone the plane blade freehand in the meantime
12:32 AM roycroft: once i get the blade nice and sharp it should be a pretty good setup
12:32 AM roycroft: their videos claim a set of chopsticks can be made in 15 minutes, but with a sharp plane blade i think it's more like 3 minutes until it's ready for light sanding and finish
12:32 AM roycroft: the light sanding should take about 10 seconds
12:35 AM XXCoder: thats cool
12:54 AM roycroft: yeah, i think it could be a way to make some easy money with my wood scraps
12:54 AM roycroft: at the very least it will make some nice holiday gifts :)
12:54 AM roycroft: everybody can use a set of nice chopsticks
12:55 AM XXCoder: you can even make fancy wood glueups then cut into chopsticks
12:55 AM XXCoder: multi-wood types etc
12:55 AM roycroft: that's what i'm planning on doing
01:00 AM XXCoder: nice
01:10 AM roycroft: i'll have to glue end grain to end grain to do what i want, but i have a big jug of epoxy, so i can make that work
01:13 AM XXCoder: with some texture for grip sure
01:35 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:18 AM travis_farmer: G'Morning, and i wish a very Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. (i am not one)
03:19 AM XXCoder: thanks for reminder. wished my bro dads day
03:21 AM travis_farmer: i wish IRC had the more complete scroll-back like Discord. i have to check the Discord to see what happened while i was gone
03:22 AM XXCoder: its just how irc works. its very old protocol
03:22 AM travis_farmer: yeah, i know. just bugs me ;)
03:24 AM XXCoder: theres logs anyway for irc
03:24 AM XXCoder: sometimes it dont work well but pretty good for while now
03:24 AM travis_farmer: true...
03:25 AM XXCoder: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2012-01-17.html firsst day
03:25 AM XXCoder: have fun
03:25 AM travis_farmer: oh good lord! i don't need to read back that far, LMAO
03:26 AM XXCoder: lol found me and roy chatting a lot in dec 2016
03:28 AM travis_farmer: lol, like pages in time
03:29 AM XXCoder: found myself in jan 2015
03:29 AM XXCoder: pretty close to when I first joined
03:31 AM travis_farmer: i was way more active on the forum, a while before i found the discord
03:31 AM XXCoder: found early 2014 lol that predates my job that i was laid off 5 years, 2 years ago
03:33 AM XXCoder: "[13:33:09] <XXCoder> curious on what linuxcnc can do"
03:33 AM XXCoder: 3/15/2014 lol
03:33 AM travis_farmer: on the forum i am listed as an "Elite Member", and joined in 2017 ...
03:34 AM travis_farmer: if you only knew then what you know now ;)
03:34 AM XXCoder: well really first thing I said was "heys" but hardly counts lol
03:34 AM travis_farmer: lol
03:34 AM XXCoder: ich was first to say something to me I guess.
03:34 AM XXCoder: hes been dead for what last 3 years something? now
03:35 AM Tom_L: scrollback... travis_farmer increase the buffer in your hexchat client
03:35 AM travis_farmer: hmm, i will check that
03:37 AM travis_farmer: it was set to "off"... i turned it on, and it is set for 10000 lines
03:37 AM XXCoder: mines set to 500
03:37 AM travis_farmer: ... Hmm
03:38 AM XXCoder: man 2014 me is so different. I griped about contour
03:38 AM XXCoder: I later bought quest van, and evenually got ford focus
03:41 AM XXCoder: man
03:41 AM XXCoder: saw some former regulars
03:41 AM XXCoder: I wonder about some of them. hows theyre doing etc
03:42 AM travis_farmer: yeah, i often wonder that when people are regular, and then... not. like if they lost interest, or died...
03:42 AM XXCoder: only one I kow for sure is ich
03:42 AM XXCoder: he was regular, then went out be forest ranger for 3 years
03:42 AM XXCoder: returned, then year or two later died
03:43 AM XXCoder: note he was already quite old, and used to make 200-300 cnc machines a year for schools
03:43 AM travis_farmer: maybe i will put it in my will, that my estate executor must notify all the forums, discords, and now IRC channels, when i have passed...
03:43 AM XXCoder: digital will is more and more a thing
03:44 AM XXCoder: also way to pass down admin, or founder for irc
03:44 AM travis_farmer: Hmmm, and how does one setup a digital will, i wonder...
03:44 AM XXCoder: dunno
03:45 AM travis_farmer: hey, google... ;) (checking...)
03:46 AM XXCoder: still saddened that someone just wiped ich videos. all of em
03:46 AM travis_farmer: off of youtube?
03:46 AM XXCoder: it was too hard for me to understand, but I know it helped a lot of people
03:47 AM XXCoder: I suppose it was slowly getting obsolete now but yeah
03:48 AM travis_farmer: it's like a website of Arduino knowledge i found... i asked the guy if i could mirror it for him, but he declined. he is getting old, and the content is amazing though
03:48 AM XXCoder: download em all
03:48 AM XXCoder: dont mirror but yeah
03:49 AM travis_farmer: true. would be a lot of work, but possible...
03:53 AM XXCoder: theres auto downloader but yeah quite a bit of disk space if large sire
03:53 AM XXCoder: site
03:53 AM travis_farmer: i have a few TB on my webserver, i doubt it is that much data...
03:54 AM XXCoder: nice
03:54 AM XXCoder: my webserver has 0 byte
03:55 AM travis_farmer: ??? what, you don't have one? i thought everybody had one ;)
03:55 AM XXCoder: lol nah
03:58 AM travis_farmer: mine has some sort of RAID drive configuration, so it is fairly stable, as long as the hardware doesn't fail too soon. just protects the data
04:00 AM travis_farmer: i think it is called the ZFS file system...
05:40 AM JT-Cave: morning
07:32 AM JT-Cave: Tom_L, Read PD and Read HMID work on my 7i80HD-16 on 10.10.10.10
07:37 AM Tom_L: i'll grab it in a bit
07:37 AM Tom_L: happy father's day
07:44 AM Tom_L: yay! works now
07:45 AM Tom_L: verify works also
07:45 AM Tom_L: with my custom .bit file
07:48 AM Tom_L: packet time 16.4% Threshold 70%
07:56 AM Tom_L: threshold doesn't seem to change from 1000000ns up to 2000000ns. packet time changes
07:56 AM Tom_L: stays at 70%
07:57 AM JT-Cave: wow that's a good packet time
07:58 AM JT-Cave: I used Peter's formula, but I might have screwed it up I'll have to revisit it
07:58 AM travis_farmer: hmm, i had a 12-ish% packet time, but still had the error on my computer i abandoned...
07:59 AM JT-Cave: one thing about verify if you press the button right after reload it fails because the board has not initialized yet
07:59 AM JT-Cave: what error?
07:59 AM Tom_L: @ 1000000ns it's 16.2%
07:59 AM travis_farmer: that error i was strugeling with
08:00 AM travis_farmer: hm2/hm2_7i80.0: error finishing read! iter=9
08:00 AM Tom_L: yeah i had a batch file to load those bit files and had to have a delay between them
08:00 AM travis_farmer: anyway, family is headed down to the coast for the day
08:01 AM Tom_L: only a 16hr drive for me :)
08:01 AM * JT-Cave is heading out to clean chicken poop
08:01 AM Tom_L: niece is visiting so back to that a while
08:01 AM JT-Cave: i get that same error on this motherboard, it's a motherboard issue
08:02 AM Tom_L: my bios has been acting funny
08:02 AM pcw--home: Intel Ethernet chip?
08:03 AM Tom_L: jt or me?
08:04 AM pcw--home: If you are using a Intel Ethernet chip for the real time connection, you must disable IRQ coalescing
08:04 AM pcw--home: (either)
08:05 AM Tom_L: mine is some generic pcie card
08:06 AM pcw--home: Otherwise the Ethernet RX will hang in the ISR waiting for the next packet...
08:08 AM JT-Cave: both of my ethernet controllers on this pc are realtek
08:08 AM pcw--home: so getting terrible Ethernet latency
08:26 AM JT-Cave: yeah, I need to swap motherboards on this pc
08:27 AM JT-Cave: is this calculation correct? threshold = (cpuSpeed * 0.7) / cpuSpeed
08:32 AM Tom_L: that _looks_ like it would come out to 70% every time
08:33 AM Tom_L: but i'm no mathematician
08:34 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
08:49 AM Tom_L: is there a utility to interrogate the hardware like ethernet etc?
08:49 AM Tom_L: well nevermind.. it says realtek when it connects
08:50 AM Tom_L: so both the MB and card are realtek
09:37 AM _unreal_: ok, the nut for the CNC z is now done.
09:37 AM _unreal_: I do still need to mill the mounting holes in the nut but that wont take but a few min when I get to it
10:39 AM _unreal_: well I was going to make spacer blocks out of HDPE for my z BUT the more I think about it. I should make them from aluminum. AND add a second set of machine screws to secure them to the main z frame. then I can do an other facing pass to level all of them
10:40 AM _unreal_: if it does as I expect it too. it should then be happy level and I can screw it into place and not get binding AND I have my backside clearance I'm missing.
10:59 AM * roycroft is going to start fitting drawer fronts today
11:00 AM roycroft: my cad workstation display is due to arrive back on monday, so i'll be able to get back to working on my router design next week
11:37 AM JT-Shop: roycroft, do you know how to check if sendmail is working?
11:50 AM roycroft: i usually tail /var/log/mail.log
11:51 AM roycroft: you can telnet to the submission port
11:51 AM roycroft: telnet mail.host 587 or telnet mail.host 465
11:51 AM roycroft: that just confirms that it's listening on the port and accepting connections
11:52 AM roycroft: i'm not sure what you need to determine exactly
11:53 AM roycroft: there is no rain in the forecast for the first time in many months
12:08 PM JT-Cave: just trying to figure out why sendmail is not working on the forum, I should have root access later today
12:10 PM JT-Cave: bbl
12:11 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
12:23 PM roycroft: you can use the openssh client to test remotely if sendmail is using tls
12:24 PM roycroft: openssl client, rather
12:24 PM roycroft: openssl s_client -connect mail.host:587 -starttls smtp
12:35 PM roycroft: i have still not found my drawer pull drilling jig
12:36 PM roycroft: if i open the new one and use it and then find the other one, i'll take one of them and epoxy the drill guide bushins in place for my standard hole spacing and mark it as such
12:36 PM roycroft: that will be my justification for buying two of them, and hopefully not a reminder that i misplaced the first one
12:36 PM * roycroft can be very good at rationalizing
12:55 PM perry_j1987: hows it going today guys
12:55 PM perry_j1987: anyone want to school me on peck drilling
12:56 PM perry_j1987: i want to see if i can speed up this teadious op heh
12:57 PM Tom_L: like a woodpecker...
12:59 PM perry_j1987: got it peck drilling 1mm pecks, 0.5 reduction, 0.75 min pecking depth right now and it feels rediculous lol
01:01 PM Tom_L: what drill diameter?
01:01 PM Tom_L: you can probably do 1 to 1.5x drill diameter depth
01:01 PM perry_j1987: 3.8
01:02 PM Tom_L: does the peck retract all the way or stay down?
01:02 PM Tom_L: there are 2 different ones iirc
01:02 PM perry_j1987: i have it full retract right now
01:02 PM perry_j1987: its going deep about 40mm
01:02 PM Tom_L: a little slower but cleanout is probably better
01:02 PM perry_j1987: maybe i could split up the op and do the keep down pecking for first portion of the hole
01:03 PM perry_j1987: and then do a second op at full retraction that could optimize speeds a bit too
01:03 PM Tom_L: i'd just let it retract
01:03 PM Tom_L: but it's up to you
01:03 PM perry_j1987: i wish i had enclosure and a jet of coolant to clear chips
01:04 PM Tom_L: G73 is chip break G83 is peck
01:04 PM Tom_L: you will want coolant
01:04 PM Tom_L: how many holes?
01:05 PM Tom_L: oh this is that square tube stuff
01:05 PM perry_j1987: i have a squirt bottle right now
01:05 PM Tom_L: you want quick, drill thru the first wall then rapid to the next depth with another drill cycle
01:06 PM perry_j1987: got a 5 gallon bucket of green cut cutting fluid concentrate that im mixing up in an old windex bottle lol
01:06 PM Tom_L: i got a cheap mister
01:06 PM perry_j1987: i do
01:16 PM perry_j1987: i have a flood coolant setup i made too
01:16 PM perry_j1987: but messy without enclosure
01:16 PM Tom_L: if you do that make sure your z return is above the top of the material
01:16 PM Tom_L: on the deeper hole