Jun 16 2022
12:35 AM RoboticsNut[m]: Many thanks for everyone's help today, I'm going to leave the shop and head home.
12:44 AM XXCoder: night
01:10 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:28 AM sensille_ is now known as sensille
01:31 AM Tom_L: sinned6915, you don't need the debug or dev versions
01:36 AM Deejay: moin
01:54 AM JoseIgnacioRomer: Im wondering whats a nice (not too expensive) MPG pendant. Are those $50 ebay specials any good?
02:07 AM JoseIgnacioRomer: Some day i would like to make a handwheel with force feedback. I think it would be fun
02:13 AM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293522363378
02:13 AM Tom_L: JoseIgnacioRomer, make your own
02:15 AM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/294853482637
02:15 AM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/man/man1/xhc-hb04.1.html
02:15 AM Tom_L: pendant & driver
03:33 AM travis_farmer853: G'Morning you freaky lot 😉 ☕
04:50 AM Tom_L: morning
05:27 AM JT-Cave: morning
07:26 AM Rhine_Labs: New black marks on the road LOL.. WTF is going on in the neighbor hood I think someone abandoned the rv next to my house also. https://youtu.be/7u7wvCdB1lw
07:27 AM JT-Cave: are the keys in it?
07:31 AM chris_99: Hey, i've just got a general cnc question, is there any advantage of using end stops, if the stepper driver supports detection of the stage hitting the ends?
07:42 AM ZincBoy[CAON]066: It would depend on the system. The first choice would be limit switches as those are going to be more accurate than missed step detection. End stops would typically be better than using the mechanical limits of the drive system for sure. Adding cushions to those end stops can help prevent damage as well.
07:44 AM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Unlike 3d printers, CNC machines usually have enough power/force in the axis that hitting the end of travel will cause damage. Otherwise known as a crash 🙂 I would not use stepper driver end detection in a CNC for limit detection.
07:47 AM chris_99: aha, thanks a lot for the input, good point re . damage, i'd only be driving the stages v. slowly to capture images from a microscope. But for safety then i'll investigate using switches too
07:49 AM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Ah, yes that is a system that could use stepper limit detection. You don't need any force there. One thing to keep in mind though is if you want a repeatable home you will want limit switches.
07:52 AM chris_99: i was originally thinking i could use the 'stall detection' and move the stage all the way left, then all the way right, at startup, and count the steps, would that not work, to then deduce N steps are needed to say move the stage say 1/2 way
07:53 AM chris_99: ( https://www.anfractuosity.com/files/DSC09304.jpg is a little piccy of the XY stage, i'm planning on mounting to some wood)
08:00 AM ZincBoy[CAON]066: That will work but you only need to move all the way one way. You know how many steps there are across the length of the axis and that won't change. You may still want to add stopper blocks as hard limits as there is still quite a bit of mechanical advantage in a ball screw system like that. I am pretty sure that stall detection is not step accurate so as long as you are good with the center being +/- stall detection variance
08:00 AM ZincBoy[CAON]066: then you will be fine. Limit switches are cheap and easy. You really want to use them 🙂
08:05 AM chris_99: will definitely get some then, ta, just to clarify i've already got something like this somewhere - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07STTZGMS/ which has a microswitch and little lever , is that what you mean, or something more sophisticated?
08:26 AM Tom_L: chris_99, i use limits but also have hard stops in case a limit failed, the truck won't slide off the linear rail
08:33 AM Tom_L: wow, usps is on it.. delivered 2 days early
08:33 AM chris_99: oh interesting, i'll google a hard stop, not sure what that is
08:33 AM Tom_L: anything to prevent the truck from physically coming off the rail
08:34 AM Rhine_Labs: Soft limits = lost steps.
08:34 AM Rhine_Labs: use limit switches.
08:35 AM Tom_L: yeah, the hard stop is a last resort
08:35 AM Rhine_Labs: You can use a combo soft limit then a limit switch to prevent crashes.
08:35 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/X_Axis_endplate.jpg
08:35 AM Tom_L: the limits will trip before it gets there
08:37 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/X_Axis_limit1.jpg
08:40 AM travis_farmer853: this is what i use for limit switches.
08:40 AM travis_farmer853: https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/cnc-parts/inductive-proximity-switch
08:40 AM travis_farmer853: all depends on how much you want to spend.
08:40 AM Tom_L: looks like in your case you've already got hard limits
08:40 AM Tom_L: but i would add switches of some sort
08:41 AM Rhine_Labs: Mechanical snap-switch = repeatibility
08:42 AM Rhine_Labs: Good high end prox switches are good also.
08:43 AM Tom_L: may not have room on that little stage for high end switches
08:43 AM chris_99: yeah i was a little confused how to mount some heh
08:43 AM Tom_L: you'll figure it out
08:44 AM Tom_L: if you use a switch similar to mine make sure you mount it going the right way or you could bend the lever
08:44 AM Tom_L: they were cheap but so far quite repeatable
09:35 AM JT-Shop: no more outside work today for me
09:40 AM travis_farmer853: too hot?
09:40 AM JT-Shop: yup
09:40 AM JT-Shop: humid and hot
09:41 AM tcurdt: I want to connect to a YL620 via RS485 .... I saw there is a "hy_vfd" hal driver - but I am not sure how compatible they really are ... I also read about "classicladder" and are a bit puzzled about it ... any wizdom here on this kind of thing?
09:41 AM travis_farmer853: getting warm here too... and i gotta install an outside light for a customer, when they get back from buying it...
09:42 AM JT-Shop: classicladder has a modbus thing but I've never looked at it
09:43 AM tcurdt: I think there is also VFDmod?
09:44 AM JT-Shop: could be... I use gs2 because I have a gs2 vfd, I've never looked at the others
09:44 AM JT-Shop: I'd search the forum
09:44 AM travis_farmer853: i think hy_vfd only works with HY, but i am not sure
09:52 AM tcurdt: this sounds promising https://github.com/xsnoopy/LinuxCNC-Yalang-yl620-VFD-rs485-Modbus-ClassicLadder ... but I still don't have a clue what classicladder even is
09:52 AM tcurdt: a hal driver to talk modbus?
09:52 AM JT-Shop: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/ladder/ladder-intro.html
09:52 AM JT-Shop: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/ladder/classic-ladder.html
09:52 AM JT-Shop: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/ladder/ladder-examples.html
09:52 AM roguish[m]: chris_99: generally 3 levels of safety. 1. software limits. 2. limits switches that disable the drive system. 3. hard stops. Big machines usually have enough power and momentum to blow through all of those.
09:52 AM tcurdt: ah .. so it even comes with linuxcnc ... cool
09:53 AM JT-Shop: yup
09:53 AM chris_99: roguish[m]: heh, that's quite scary a big machine could go through the hardstop
09:55 AM tcurdt: classladder is ... wow
09:55 AM travis_farmer: mine just makes a loud racket when it hits the hard stops
10:00 AM roguish[m]: chris_99: that's what those 3 levels of safety are for. should catch most problems..
10:00 AM chris_99: gotcha, that makes sense
10:02 AM travis_farmer: hard limits are if the limit-switches fail, and limit switches are for pre-homing movement, when the soft limits are not yet active
10:06 AM tcurdt: reading up it seems my options are 1) mb2hall 2) vfdmod 3) classicladder .... it seems like 1+3 come with linuxcnc which feels like a big plus ... classicladder feels a bit over the top
10:06 AM tcurdt: guess I will give mb2hal a try
10:35 AM JT-Shop: step 1 move the ender up from the beer cave to the machine shop... done
10:35 AM JT-Shop: ebike parts just showed up...
10:42 AM JT-Shop: wow the rim and motor look awesome
10:53 AM roycroft: where are you mounting your battery, jt-shop?
10:55 AM JT-Shop: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081SMTPW2
10:56 AM roycroft: aah, that looks like it will work out well
10:57 AM roycroft: if i build an e-bike i'll want to add some fairly big panniers on the rear rack so i can haul groceries and the like
10:57 AM roycroft: i was thinking a mid-frame battery would be good for that, but that luggage rack makes it easy to mount the battery in the rear and still have panniers
11:01 AM JT-Shop: yep, I have a panniers on the way but you need to pay attention to the width of the center
11:01 AM JT-Shop: for that battery/rack it's 6" wide
11:04 AM roycroft: the ones i use on my current bike are two pieces - each hooks on to one side of the rack
11:04 AM roycroft: so width would not matter if i use those
11:05 AM roycroft: as long as they can hook onto the top of the rack, and with the one you got it looks like they would be able to do that
11:13 AM JT-Cave: which one do you have?
11:14 AM JT-Cave: I looked for one like that but failed to find one
11:19 AM roycroft: i've had mine for decades
11:19 AM roycroft: i don't remember the brand offhand, but whatever they are they're probably not available any more
11:29 AM roycroft: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09SM5XQ73
11:29 AM roycroft: that's not what i have but that might work for you
11:30 AM roycroft: the way it attaches at the bottom might be a problem though, with your tall rack
11:30 AM roycroft: mine have adjustable bungies to hold the bottom on
11:36 AM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Look at MB2HAL. That is what I use to control my VFD. Much easier than creating a driver from scratch and I dislike dealing with ladder logic.
11:39 AM JT-Shop: nice the tire is 65psig max
11:39 AM JT-Shop: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08B5PLXBW
11:46 AM roycroft: we have lots of hills here in eugene
11:46 AM roycroft: i'm not sure how well a rear hub drive motor would work with that, unlessit's a really powerful motor
11:47 AM roycroft: if i lost my gearing on the bike it might be hard to climb hills, and i certainly would not be able to pedal my way up the hills
11:48 AM roycroft: i suppose a triple chain ring crank with a really small inner ring might work - i would have three effective pedaling gears that way
11:48 AM roycroft: but i don't think the rear hub motor drive bikes have automatic chain tensioners, as they're not designed for that
11:49 AM * roycroft will have to do much research before seriously considering building an e-bike
11:50 AM tcurdt: ZincBoy[CAON]066 mb2hal looks much simpler than ladder indeed. I am still a bit unclear on how to map the registers though. would you mind sharing your config to have another example to look at?
11:54 AM roycroft: folks here seem to like classic ladder
11:54 AM roycroft: that doesn't mean anything regarding which method is "better" or whatever
11:55 AM roycroft: but you might get better answers to classic ladder questions than with the other methods
12:00 PM sinned6915: +JT-Shop: what is the correct keyserver for installing Preempt-RT kernel?
12:07 PM JT-Shop: hmm that changed a while back should be mention of it in the manual
12:20 PM Tom_L: keyserver.ubuntu.com
12:20 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, the one on your site doesn't work now
12:21 PM Tom_L: you may wanna update that
12:31 PM sinned6915: i was trying .org
12:32 PM sinned6915: i got it
12:32 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/30-cnc-machines/41503-retrofit-of-a-hitachi-seike-vk45-mill?start=10#217758 This is my config and includes the MB2HAL stuff.
12:46 PM tcurdt: thx for the pointer roycroft. thx for the link to the config ZincBoy[CAON]066
01:07 PM JT-Shop: on debian 10 you add the preempt rt kernel in the synaptic package manager
01:08 PM JT-Shop: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keys.openpgp.org --recv-key 3cb9fd148f374fef
01:08 PM JT-Shop: Alternate keyserver: keyserver.ubuntu.com
01:34 PM travis_farmer: well, my Ethernet NIC i needed for my LCNC test computer arrived, but it is 83F in my workshop... so tomorrow morning i will get around to making everything work :)
02:18 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:55 PM sliptonicBradCol: running 2.9 in simulation mode on this desktop. I3 window manager. Everything runs fine except the gmoccapy configs Those give me a error related to glutinit.
03:56 PM * sliptonicBradCol uploaded an image: (35KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/TSlerIjDnJjeOJRDXWuCVCYJ/unknown.png >
03:57 PM Tom_L: sliptonicBradCol, that's a lib that is not included in buster
03:58 PM Tom_L: gtksourceview2 i bet
03:58 PM sliptonicBradCol: This is Mint 20
03:58 PM Tom_L: ok then i've no clue :)
04:00 PM Tom_L: here's jt's notes for 19: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/linuxmint19-emc.html
04:04 PM Tom_L: 99F so far
04:05 PM roycroft: it's a pleasant 19 degrees here
04:05 PM roycroft: somewhat overcast again
04:06 PM Tom_L: i'd be willing to trade
04:06 PM roycroft: it looks like we might get a bit of rain tomorrow and saturday, and then summer arrives
04:06 PM roycroft: at this point i'd be willing to trade as well
04:06 PM XXCoder: $100 a hour of exchange
04:06 PM roycroft: while i don't enjoy extreme heat, the country fair is still a mudpit surrounded by a swamp
04:06 PM roycroft: and the fair starts three weeks from tomorrow
04:07 PM Tom_L: break out the swamp buggies and start mud boggin
04:07 PM roycroft: i need to do booth repair work this weekend
04:07 PM roycroft: fortunately it's not major repairs, and i won't have to haul in a lot of materials
04:08 PM roycroft: because there are no vehicles permitted anywhere near the booths
04:08 PM roycroft: everything has to be carried in by hand
04:10 PM XXCoder: id make a powered cart or something
04:10 PM roycroft: no carts allowed
04:10 PM roycroft: the fair has carts that haul things for people normally
04:10 PM roycroft: personal vehicles are not normally allowed
04:10 PM XXCoder: not even allowed for staff?
04:10 PM roycroft: no, not right now
04:10 PM XXCoder: (on carts)
04:10 PM roycroft: it's literally a mudpit
04:11 PM roycroft: the carts would get stuck and tear the place up
04:11 PM roycroft: the fair site has a river running through the middle of it
04:11 PM roycroft: and the craft and food booths are in a forest
04:11 PM roycroft: right next to the river
04:12 PM roycroft: there are a couple meadows that are fairly dry, as are the main parking lots
04:12 PM roycroft: which are actually hay fields that get mowed right before the fair
04:12 PM XXCoder: interesting
04:12 PM roycroft: usualy it's dry enough by mid-may to start doing some work
04:13 PM roycroft: and main camp opens the first weekend in june, which is when staff start doing their site work
04:13 PM roycroft: this year they're all just hanging out, waiting for things to dry enough to work
04:13 PM roycroft: they are doing some work in the meadows - there are several stages there that need repair
04:14 PM roycroft: but they're not able to do any real work in the craft/food booth areas
04:37 PM * JT-Shop needs to make a few adjustments to the e bike
04:45 PM travis_farmer: how do i get a blue dot beside my name in the channel user list (IRC) ;)
04:50 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:50 PM XXCoder: its voice+, though in this case it also means we are ops
04:50 PM travis_farmer: so... how do i become an op? just curious ;)
04:51 PM roycroft: i don't get a blue dot next to my nick
04:51 PM roycroft: but that may be because i'm in a black terminal window with green text, and my terminal emulator does not support graphics
04:57 PM travis_farmer: guess i will never know...
04:59 PM roycroft: well i'm about to install another four drawers
04:59 PM roycroft: that will completely fill the first fastener cabinet
05:00 PM t4nk_freenode: how ...
05:00 PM t4nk_freenode: far are you done ;)
05:00 PM roycroft: and tomorrow i'll install the last four drawers in my other fasterner cabinet, and the drawers will be done
05:00 PM t4nk_freenode: 3 cabinets total?
05:00 PM roycroft: there are five cabinets total
05:00 PM roycroft: two for fasteners, one for abrasives, and two for systainers
05:01 PM roycroft: after the drawers are installed, i have to make the drawer fronts (which are rough milled already) and install them, and install the countertop, and then make the systainer trays
05:01 PM roycroft: i'm hoping to be done by the end of the month, and i'm on schedule to meet that goal
05:01 PM t4nk_freenode: easy does it
05:01 PM roycroft: the drawers are the single biggest part of this project by far, so completing them tomorrow will feel really good
05:03 PM t4nk_freenode: I used to have no patience at all as a kis
05:03 PM t4nk_freenode: kid
05:03 PM t4nk_freenode: I've come a fair way
05:17 PM tcurdt: what is this trying to tell me? (trivkins kinematics) WARNING: INCONSISTENT coordinates specifications:trivkins coordinates=XYYZ [TRAJ]COORDINATES=
05:18 PM travis_farmer: in hexchat, how do i set it to automatically login my chat username:password?
05:18 PM Tom_L: a checkoff on the connect page
05:20 PM Tom_L: i use sasl username & password
05:20 PM Tom_L: edit the libera network page
05:22 PM roguish[m]: ditto what Tom_L just said
05:26 PM travis_farmer: not seeing any way to auto login, maybe i screwed something up...
05:26 PM JT-Shop: right click on the channel
05:27 PM travis_farmer: i auto join, but there is no option to login with my registered name and password
05:28 PM JT-Shop: that's done in the login menu... now where did it go
05:28 PM Tom_L: when you pull up the network list, edit libera and there's a tab to add channels you wish to autojoin
05:29 PM travis_farmer: ok, found it, lets see if it works...
05:30 PM Tom_L: of course it works
05:30 PM travis_farmer: i think it worked...
05:30 PM Tom_L: you also set your username & password there
05:31 PM Tom_L: the 4th name in the list should be your registered name on irc
05:31 PM * JT-Shop wonders what happened to the menu on hexchat
05:32 PM JT-Shop: tcurdt, you have a configuration error
05:32 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, any changes to your config tool?
05:32 PM tcurdt: JT-Shop so much I figured :)
05:33 PM Tom_L: waiting on pcw to lemme know if the board is shot or not
05:33 PM tcurdt: Not using a config anymore
05:33 PM tcurdt: s/config/config tool/
05:37 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, not much, thinking of having a .config_name.conf file for stuff just used by the tool
05:37 PM Tom_L: i saw that, not a bad idea
05:37 PM * JT-Shop wonders if he has a 8mm drill bit
05:38 PM * Tom_L has an 8mm reamer he would loan
05:38 PM JT-Shop: hmm O is a thou bigger... not even worth looking for the sack of metric bits
05:39 PM Tom_L: i recently got a full set of stub drills
05:39 PM Tom_L: will allow me to do more drilling on the mill
05:39 PM JT-Shop: the ebike does 40kpm
05:39 PM JT-Shop: gotta switch it to a more sane measurement
05:39 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: pics please
05:39 PM Tom_L: got it working?
05:39 PM Tom_L: cool
05:40 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:42 PM * travis_farmer has just found how to do the 'me' command ;)
05:42 PM roycroft: if you switch it to mph it will go slower :)
05:43 PM roycroft: so the bottom drawer did not fit, as i expected may be the case
05:43 PM roycroft: but now it does
05:43 PM roguish[m]: roycroft: big mallet
05:43 PM roycroft: no
05:43 PM roguish[m]: crowbar
05:43 PM roycroft: a couple minutes with a very sharp hand plane
05:43 PM roguish[m]: chainsaw
05:44 PM travis_farmer: "chainsaw" LMAO
05:44 PM roguish[m]: check this https://venturebeat.com/2022/06/15/ubuntu-core-22-brings-real-time-linux-options-to-iot/
05:44 PM roycroft: there are some who would be able to make the adjustment with a chainsaw and make it look good
05:44 PM roycroft: i am definitely not one of those people
05:44 PM roguish[m]: just funnin ya
05:45 PM roycroft: i can cut a tree down and make it fall where i intend it to fall
05:45 PM roycroft: but i cannot trim 1mm off a board neatly with a chainsaw
05:45 PM roycroft: and i don't envy them that can
05:45 PM roycroft: i wonder why they bother, instead of reaching for a more appropriate tool :)
05:48 PM roycroft: hmm, east 13th (the part of the fair site where my booth lives) is now open to gators and golf carts
05:48 PM roycroft: but no large vehicles
05:48 PM roycroft: the crew did a lot of work on it today
05:48 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/vehicles/e-bike/
05:49 PM roycroft: i was just there two days ago and there were huge mud pits that were well over ankle high on the entire path, as far as i could go
05:49 PM JT-Shop: roguish[m], https://gnipsel.com/images/vehicles/e-bike/
05:50 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: so the motor is in the rear hub?
05:50 PM roguish[m]: is the rear hub.
05:50 PM roycroft: interesting - i did not know you would be able to keep the derailleur and sprockets on the rear wheel
05:50 PM roycroft: that's nice
05:51 PM roycroft: i'm not sure about that bag you have hanging in the mid-frame though
05:51 PM roycroft: when i see "voilamart" i can only read it as "voldemort"
05:52 PM JT-Shop: the controller is in the bag and it's pretty tight, going to move the mass of wires to the battery box where there is more room
05:53 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: do you host your own domain? or is it out on a server somewhere?
05:53 PM JT-Shop: you can get front wheel hubs as well
05:53 PM JT-Shop: Dream Host
05:53 PM roguish[m]: ok
05:53 PM JT-Shop: I don't have the band width
05:54 PM JT-Shop: to do squat lol... waits on star link
05:54 PM roycroft: i have several vps to host my stuff, now that we've shut down the data center at my work
05:54 PM roycroft: for $9/month i can get a vps and host a dozen websites on it
05:54 PM roycroft: i think my mail server costs $7/month
05:55 PM roguish[m]: well, rural areas are all supposed to be getting highspeed ..........at least that what the gov't says.........maybe next century
05:57 PM JT-Shop: the fiber is in the ground for many years but it's not connected to anything lol
05:57 PM JT-Shop: obama plan not fully thought out
05:57 PM roguish[m]: definitely 'dark web'
05:59 PM roycroft: the part that was not thought out was the part where carriers agree in writing to provide service, the goverment gives them stuff, and then private carriers change their minds and say "sorry, thanks for the stuff, but we're not going to provide the services we promised"
05:59 PM roycroft: which is exactly what happens time and time again
06:00 PM roycroft: and the "stuff" is not just money - it's money, property (including title to government-installed fiber), exclusive rights of way, exclusive franchises
06:01 PM roycroft: and the infuriating thing is that the telcos have been doing this for decades, yet the government keeps trusting them to fulfill their end of the deal
06:03 PM roguish[m]: roycroft: how do you really feel???
06:03 PM JT-Shop: taco night!
06:04 PM roguish[m]: the only thing scarier than having the gov't not run the internet, is having the gov't run it.
06:04 PM JT-Shop: taking our friends to a restaurant in East Prairie tomorrow for listing the Spyder on fb market place
06:04 PM tcurdt: when I have "net spindle-at-speed classicladder.0.out-01 <= pyvcp.at-speed" where does "pyvcp.at-speed" come from? ... what's pyvcp?
06:04 PM JT-Shop: guess I'll make this part over tomorrow
06:05 PM JT-Shop: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/gui/pyvcp.html
06:05 PM roguish[m]: tcurdt: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/22-pyvcp
06:06 PM roguish[m]: not taco night here, but is definitely a rum and tonic on the deck evening.
06:06 PM JT-Shop: that would put my lights out quick lol
06:06 PM roguish[m]: cool 73 here now
06:07 PM roguish[m]: I make them pretty lite.
06:07 PM JT-Shop: a few glasses of cab and I done for any more... all I have to do is look at a bottle of cognac and I fall asleep lol
06:07 PM tcurdt: JT-Shop roguish[m] so I'd need a "loadusr pyvcp" for those pins to exist
06:08 PM JT-Shop: and I do love some nice Remy Martin on a cold night
06:08 PM JT-Shop: tcurdt, you have make the pins as well
06:08 PM roguish[m]: Remi and coke, now that's a good brothers drink.
06:09 PM JT-Shop: I'm straight up
06:09 PM JT-Shop: never tried it with any mixer
06:10 PM roguish[m]: neat it should be.
06:10 PM roguish[m]: less you're in the hood.
06:11 PM tcurdt: seems like that part is missing from https://github.com/xsnoopy/LinuxCNC-Yalang-yl620-VFD-rs485-Modbus-ClassicLadder ... the vfd.xml seems to be the pyvcp xml file
06:11 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: ever had Grappa?
06:11 PM JT-Shop: I have bottle of V.S.O.P I've never tapped
06:11 PM JT-Shop: roguish[m],
06:11 PM JT-Shop: no
06:13 PM roguish[m]: it's an Italian grape liquore. made from the old wine pressings. bad grappa is like gasoline, good grappa is a really fine brandy like liquore.
06:13 PM JT-Shop: interesting
06:13 PM roguish[m]: but most bad, cheap liquore is like gasoline.
06:14 PM roguish[m]: you've probably tasted gasoline, right? sucked a bit too hard on the siphon tube.
06:14 PM JT-Shop: ouch, reminds me of grape boones farm from decades ago
06:15 PM JT-Shop: yup I've siphoned a few times but pretty careful lol
06:15 PM roguish[m]: clear tubes work best, but old garden hose is more common.
06:16 PM roguish[m]: go get those tacos.............
06:17 PM JT-Shop: the worst I've tasted was a bottle of teacher scotch in Kinshasa Zaire airport
06:17 PM JT-Shop: now known as the congo as it should be
06:18 PM XXCoder: someone shoot me
06:18 PM JT-Shop: bang
06:18 PM XXCoder: thanks
06:18 PM * XXCoder dies
06:19 PM JT-Shop: it was a scary time working in Zaire with Mobutu as the dictator
06:20 PM JT-Shop: Mobutu was an evil sob
06:20 PM XXCoder: doing yard work while very weak and dizzy sucks
06:20 PM * JT-Shop wanders inside
06:21 PM roguish[m]: goodnight Johnboy
06:21 PM JT-Shop: I have trouble with stairs a bit if carrying something
06:21 PM JT-Shop: lol my grandma called me Johnny
06:21 PM JT-Shop: no one else did
06:21 PM JT-Shop: goodnight Gracie
06:25 PM tcurdt: POSTGUI_HALFILE was the trick
06:25 PM XXCoder: lol when I needed to bring boxes in, I noped out of carrying it down stairs
06:25 PM XXCoder: while my sense of balance was restored, visual not tracking means im at high risk of falling
06:36 PM Tom_L: wow.. cool breeze just blew thru, now it's 98F
06:48 PM roycroft: it's still 17 and overcast here
06:48 PM roycroft: if you could send some of your heat my way i'd apprciate it
06:48 PM XXCoder: 17f wow thats cold
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11:01 PM roycroft: all of my drawers are glued up now
11:02 PM roycroft: and i'm actually a bit ahead of schedule - i was able to mill the drawer fronts to final dimensions tonight