May 21 2022
01:54 AM Deejay: moin
05:07 AM Tom_L: morning
05:14 AM travis_farmer853: G'Morning ☕
05:26 AM mrec: I just went through some stainless laser cutting offers, the price span is hugh
05:27 AM mrec: 1mm thick / 1m2 stainless 250 USD$ - 3000 USD$
05:28 AM mrec: I want to cut like 800 parts out of it
05:55 AM JT-Cave: morning
09:40 AM Tom_L: cool front moved in.. 54F & windy currently
10:23 AM roycroft: it will get up to the low 20s here today, reaching the mid 20s by the middle of the week, and lots of sunshine
11:14 AM JT-Cave: almost got the trailer unloaded with $700 worth of hand rails for the deck before the rain started
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12:53 PM * Thorhian7490[m] uploaded an image: (4971KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/YTxyiXeBoIWrbNzHGjPeBrIM/814A518E-0746-4154-AED3-4FE99B13A91C.jpg >
12:53 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Hey guys. I’m using a raspberry pi 4 with a Mesa 7c81 board. I shortened one of these ribbon cables down to decrease resistance between the 7c81 and the pi since the Mesa board is supplying power to the pi. For a while I never got the low voltage warnings when I first did this, but now I consistently get low voltage warnings on my pi all the time now. Here is a picture of it. Anyone got any advice on solving this issue?
12:55 PM Thorhian7490[m]: I have tested it with no usb devices plugged in as well, still get the low voltage warning.
12:59 PM travis_farmer853: what does the 5V bus on the Pi itself read for volts? if it was drawing more current than the cable could supply... it could cause those warnings.
01:00 PM Thorhian7490[m]: I’m not sure how to measure it directly with this ribbon cable attached to it lol.
01:01 PM XXCoder: dont pi itself can read voltage
01:01 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Yeah, hence the warnings. Better just turn it on.
01:03 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Wow, this time it’s not even warning me, even when opening Firefox and my keyboard and stuff plugged in lol.
01:07 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Looks like it had an under voltage moment during boot up but not right now.
01:07 PM XXCoder: not enough amps for heavy use?
01:08 PM XXCoder: try start few gtxgears
01:08 PM XXCoder: it'll impact cpu
01:08 PM XXCoder: also start large HD video of fire
01:09 PM Thorhian7490[m]: It’s running pretty slow. Bet it’s under clocked due to the boot up with low voltage. Okay lol start running those things.
01:12 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Firefox is chugging hard but the gears are nice and smooth lol. Two GLXGears and one slowly running fireplace is not bringing up the low voltage warnings. This is bizarre.
01:13 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Double checked DMesg. No new low voltage notifications either.
01:14 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Weird.
01:29 PM roycroft: i have another box of drawer slides installed
01:29 PM roycroft: i'm well over half done now
01:30 PM roycroft: and i'll be installing another box shortly
01:30 PM xxcoder8265[m]: 🎉
01:31 PM roycroft: i set up the stop stereo this morning before i started work
01:32 PM roycroft: the jobsite radio i've been using lately is fine, but putting the stereo back online is a form of return to normalcy that i needed - this project has been too disruptive for too long
01:47 PM Tom_L: test
02:17 PM * CaptHindsight[m] wonders if Catia 5 is less intuitive than NX, SW or Creo or if once you are used to those it is just different enough to feel awkward
02:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but still far less awkward than FreeCAD
02:24 PM Tom_L: transition from catia to sw is pretty easy
02:25 PM Tom_L: dunno about NX or Creo
02:25 PM Tom_L: catia does alot more than sw though
02:32 PM miss0r: At the moment we have so many mosquitos, ones mind starts to wander to places... Perhaps a controlled gas explotion could fry off their wings ect...
02:33 PM XXCoder: star wars laser project
02:33 PM XXCoder: aimed to hit where flying noise come from
02:34 PM miss0r: there are a few laser projects that can hit mosquitos
02:34 PM miss0r: but none are 'on the market'
02:34 PM miss0r: I already have a Mosquito Magnet pioneer model. But it just cannot keep up
02:44 PM miss0r: it sucks'em in faster than i can count them, but more are just comming
02:44 PM roycroft: i can say that as a long-time autocad user who had used sw off and on since about 2011, and took one sw class, i found sw very non-intuitive and could not use it effectively for a long time
02:44 PM roycroft: i'm using it almost daily now, and i'm finding that i can do even a lot of 2d drawings faster in sw than in autocad at this point
02:44 PM roycroft: i do think it mostly has to do with what one is used to
02:44 PM roycroft: i'll also say that try as i may, i find freecad singularly non-intuitive, and have an extremely difficult time getting anything done with it
02:44 PM roycroft: that is likely in large part because of the way it's divided into so many workbenches, with different teams working on each one, and a lack of a common user interface amongst all of them
02:49 PM XXCoder: freecad :P
02:49 PM TurBoss: +1
02:49 PM XXCoder: it IS a cad. and pretty good one at that
02:49 PM TurBoss: sketcher is very powerfull
02:49 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Yeah I know. I use it already (freecad).
02:49 PM TurBoss: * freecad sketcher is
02:52 PM Thorhian7490[m]: I’m even slowly working on a 3D adaptive algorithm that I might help bring to FreeCAD at some point. I just really don’t want to deal with VMs or Wine crud for something like fusion360 right now just so I can get decent CAM.
02:55 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah gave up recently and went back and built a win11 box for CAD
02:56 PM CaptHindsight[m]: even tried QEMU+KVM+virt-manager with Linux host but GPU passthough is broken for my RX570
02:56 PM Thorhian7490[m]: I have a pass through VM that works thankfully.
02:56 PM CaptHindsight[m]: which GPU card?
02:57 PM Thorhian7490[m]: On the host I have a Vega 56. I had a spare GTX 1050 laying around so it is dedicated to that VM.
02:57 PM Thorhian7490[m]: I use looking glass so I don’t need a second monitor.
02:58 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ah I have integrated Vega and a spare rx570 with two monitors and the graphics come up all scrambled on the 570
02:59 PM CaptHindsight[m]: will ask the radeon devs one of these days
02:59 PM Thorhian7490[m]: I know there is a project on GitHub specifically for getting fusion running via wine. Haven’t tried it though.
03:00 PM CaptHindsight[m]: winderz is slow
03:00 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so much rebooting
03:01 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Winblows.
03:01 PM CaptHindsight[m]: there is no quick winderz way from machine powered off to quickly do something
03:02 PM XXCoder: thats why I never shut pc down when I used windows lol
03:02 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: I am curious what you consider so much rebooting? I reboot every few months as needed but don't consider that a big issue.
03:02 PM CaptHindsight[m]: you have to hope the PC is still on and running the version you need for the quick job
03:03 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i have a few wins on the same drive but different partitions
03:05 PM CaptHindsight[m]: between updates, license checks etc it feels like it takes forever to actually start using an application IF the machine is off or running a different version of wins
03:06 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Ah, yes if the system is out of date it can take a while to get going again. More or less the same with linux though if you actually keep it up to date.
03:06 PM CaptHindsight[m]: even when fully updated
03:07 PM CaptHindsight[m]: how long is your power on to having an application open ready for a NEW run of something?
03:08 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I have apps that disappear from the task manager as well when running
03:08 PM XXCoder: linux update needs far fewer reboots
03:08 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Why would I ever turn the system off? With hibernate I am able to go from "off" to running an app fast enough that it is not noticeable.
03:08 PM XXCoder: so far I know, only kernel and gpu driver needs reboots
03:08 PM CaptHindsight[m]: they show back up when the app is done acting like it is frozen
03:09 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I installed the latest version of Xilinx Vivado last week
03:10 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 50GB app, takes forever to start and locks up the system when running a simulation
03:10 PM CaptHindsight[m]: well i though ti twas locked up but it was actually running but didn't show up in the task manager
03:11 PM CaptHindsight[m]: s/though/thought/, s/ti/it/
03:11 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it did show back up when it was done running the simulation
03:12 PM CaptHindsight[m]: which is another age old winders issue, WTF is is actually doing sometimes?
03:12 PM CaptHindsight[m]: task manager shows <3% cpu usage for all appsbut the system acts locked up for minutes
03:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: is the a full task manager that actually show EVERYTHING that the kernel is actually up to?
03:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: * task manager shows \<3% cpu usage for all apps but the system acts locked up for minutes
03:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: s/the/there/
03:15 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Lol I use Vivado on Linux. Has worked great so far.
03:16 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: You can cause the same type of things to happen on Linux as well if you have a poorly behaved app or start thrashing swap. Linux and windows have different issues but both have issues. I see them as equivalent tools both with their place.
03:17 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Updating and restarting Linux in my experience is pretty painless, but I am an arch user, so I’m not sure about other distros like Ubuntu and etc.
03:18 PM TurBoss: +1for arch
03:18 PM XXCoder: xfce mint. probably not best but works well for me
03:19 PM Thorhian7490[m]: And yeah, both Operating systems have their issues. However, the FOSS nature of the Linux platform makes it far more desirable as a tool in my opinion. Windows has only gone more and more downhill over time IMO.
03:20 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Thorhian#7490: yeah i was going to install Vivado on Linux again after I finish a new build
03:20 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: I mostly use xfce since I find gnome and kde to be inconsistent and bloated. Especially on low end hardware.
03:20 PM XXCoder: xfce is best
03:20 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Good call.
03:20 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the stupid license issue when migrating
03:20 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Xilinx thinks you are going to steal their free software
03:21 PM Thorhian7490[m]: I use i3, so it’s pretty lean lol.
03:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: isn't XFCE no longer in development? Hasn't XFQT taken over?
03:22 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Xilinx used to tie the license to the MAC address of your NIC. Which was nice because you can change the MAC address on most NICs 🙂
03:22 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ah they say it's still alive but
03:24 PM CaptHindsight[m]: sorry meant LXQT over XFCE
03:25 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Eh, I will just go back to TWM as I am sure that will still be around.
03:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Gnome was nice until they went nuts
03:26 PM CaptHindsight[m]: KDE is ok on faster machines
03:26 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Yes the latest versions of gnome just had me going wft did they change that for? Seemed to be change for changes sake
03:26 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but I don't need shaking windows or other graphic effects when changing apps
03:27 PM colteli[m]: What is your spindle orient setup? I would like to have spindle hold when dialing edge. Have chinese vfd. I am guessing I would need to add an encoder of some sort.
03:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: was some newer is better thinking
03:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and they were thinking they could get into the mobile phone and tablet markets
03:28 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and forgot about desktops
03:28 PM XXCoder: I moved on from ubuntu when they went "apple ui" then "almost phone"
03:28 PM XXCoder: my pc is not a gaint phone thanks
03:28 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Just like microsoft on vista 🙂 WFT were they thinking.
03:28 PM CaptHindsight[m]: exactly
03:28 PM XXCoder: worse when they made me search for programs. my memory isnt that good thanks. I want menu back
03:29 PM XXCoder: so I moved to xfce mint and its beengreat for years
03:29 PM CaptHindsight[m]: what I liked about the old Gnome was the taskbar and how it was easily customized
03:29 PM XXCoder: yeah gnome was ok, till they made stuff locked
03:29 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah it felt like winderz but winderz had the desktop down well
03:30 PM CaptHindsight[m]: all my stuff was right there and I like to get to things without several layers of menus
03:31 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the latest gnome hides just about everything
03:31 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i guess if you are easily distracted that is a plus
03:32 PM XXCoder: lxqt looks interesting but meh ill ust use xfce lol
03:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i have lxqt on debian 11 bullseye, but the network manager is broken when added to the taskbar
03:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it adds a new icon of itself with every reboot
03:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so after 6 or so I delete them but why do I have to fix this?
03:34 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/30-cnc-machines/41503-retrofit-of-a-hitachi-seike-vk45-mill?start=0 Here is a link to my conversion. The config files are in the thread. It is easiest if you have an encoder on the spindle. On my machine I don't, only an encoder on the motor and there is a two speed gearbox between it and the spindle. Orientation uses some tricks and a position sensor on the spindle itself. Orientation is really
03:34 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: useful for probing as it lets you calibrate the probe.
03:34 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Debian always seems to think that the user should remember that the graphical network managers are broken and just use command line
03:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so just fricken remove them then
03:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: oh yeah we just left those extra buttons on the device since we know they don't work anyway
03:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: you will too
03:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: lazy or?
03:36 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Debian seems to be one of the more user hostile distributions out there. Too much focus on FOOS purity.
03:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: fedora is about as bad
03:37 PM CaptHindsight[m]: installed the latest last week to see if it was just a Debian issue with the gpu passthrough with qemu and kvm
03:37 PM CaptHindsight[m]: same issue
03:37 PM CaptHindsight[m]: debian tends to be several releases behind lots of bug fixes
03:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so my new hardware tends to act better with Sid
03:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and a new kernel
03:39 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i really wish projects like ROS2 would not choose Ubuntu as their main distro
03:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I get the active development but at least choose something Linux that does't just change Linux for the sake of change and then breaking things or coming up with something supposedly better like bullet proof X that aren't any better
03:41 PM XXCoder: isnt there replacement for x?
03:42 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Is there a linux distro that does not do this? The closest I can think of is RedHat with paid support.
03:42 PM CaptHindsight[m]: XXCoder: Wayland
03:43 PM XXCoder: ah yes
03:43 PM XXCoder: dunno how its like. and how program support on it is like
03:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ZincBoy[CA, ON]#0663: yeah it's a nice distro
03:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but if you have the time Gentoo
03:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: what is that new Linux distro everyone is starting to work with, I think it was mentioned for Spacecraft use initially
03:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ROCKY
03:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=rocky
03:45 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: I don't hate myself enough to use Gentoo 🙂 Tried it out and it seems to be for people that like to see the compiler run.
03:46 PM CaptHindsight[m]: hah https://distrowatch.com/images/cpxtu/okkbcseilakrm-lnkfordum.png
03:47 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ZincBoy[CA, ON]#0663: once you build a base Gentoo system, it's not too bad
03:48 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i had someone spend months on doing so
03:48 PM colteli[m]: Wow, nice work! I would have gotten sidetracked with other projects. Lots of good info.
03:48 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Yes, but I want an OS as a tool. I don't need another project/hobby 🙂
03:48 PM CaptHindsight[m]: start with the base image and then it's just a couple of days to customize
03:49 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it gets worse when there needs to be some major change in compilers or libraries
03:59 PM XXCoder: theres always that windows xp source code LOL
03:59 PM XXCoder: add rt kernel and linuxcnc support :P
04:02 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Not gonna lie, besides the initial install process, arch has been one of the most reliable and less fussy distro of Linux I’ve ever used. Best OS investment I’ve made.
04:02 PM XXCoder: arch is precompiled gentoo correct?
04:03 PM Thorhian7490[m]: Lol. Can’t tell if you are joking or not.
04:03 PM XXCoder: basically a fork of gentoo, but you dont compile everything like gentoo
04:03 PM TurBoss: there us aur comunity repos that work like ports,brutal amounts of software there
04:03 PM TurBoss: s/us/is/
04:04 PM Thorhian7490[m]: In a way they are similar since both expect you to install what you want, yes. Arch is precompiled, but they don’t even share the same package manager.
04:04 PM XXCoder: ok
04:04 PM Thorhian7490[m]: The AUR is awesome lol. Made installing Vivado and Mathematica for school really easy.
04:05 PM XXCoder: loved Mathematica.
04:05 PM Thorhian7490[m]: But yeah, you could say they are similar. Arch isn’t fork though.
04:09 PM XXCoder: yea thanks
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04:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I'd say Arch is best to "use" if you really want to learn how to fix Linux problems
04:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and update everyday for the most "fixin" fun
04:26 PM * JT-Shop still has not heard a peep from the guy that tried to get around the one per customer limit at measus.com by placing 4 orders in a row
04:30 PM XXCoder: cant just cancel all 4?
04:31 PM JT-Shop: yep, that's no problem just waiting to see if he contacts me or not
04:31 PM XXCoder: yeah
04:32 PM XXCoder: its not like its expiring produce
04:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: JT-Shop: i once had a customer save the link to a product no longer available that and was no longer linked to on the website and try to order it again
04:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: s/and//
04:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: * JT-Shop: i once had a customer save the link to a product no longer available and that was no longer linked to on the website, and try to order it again
04:36 PM JT-Shop: that doesn't surprise me
04:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: some people just want what they want and hope you don't notice
04:36 PM JT-Shop: that guy ordered $700 worth of cards
04:37 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the 1 per customer obviously doesn't apply tothem
04:37 PM travis_farmer853: hey, if the other guy is footing the bill, i will take one of his cards... 😉
04:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah at least get 3 friends to order the others :)
04:38 PM travis_farmer853: lol
04:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I am an honorable scammer above all
04:39 PM roycroft: another box of drawer slides done
04:39 PM roycroft: and i'm on my last cabinet now
04:39 PM JT-Shop: or be upfront and ask is it possible to get those cards... had that been the case I would have shipped all but the duplicate 6i25
04:40 PM roycroft: i also figured out that i miscalculated slightly, and now there will be 2 more drawers total than in the original plan
04:40 PM XXCoder: roy drawers being bit shallower than planned?
04:41 PM roycroft: no, they're still the same size
04:41 PM roycroft: actually, i am making them 2mm shallower, but just to have a bit of additional clearance
04:41 PM roycroft: the positions will remain the same
04:42 PM roycroft: no, what i did was miscalculate the number of drawers in one cabinet
04:43 PM travis_farmer853: JT-Shop: one of these days i will be wanting a spare 7i80HD-16, in case my current only one ever needs quick replacement. any idea when one will be in stock?
04:43 PM roycroft: and in another, i had placed a 256mm drawer where only a 192mm drawer was needed
04:43 PM roycroft: so i filled in the spaces with extra drawers
04:43 PM roycroft: i'll have the drawer slides done in less than an hour, which will be awesome
04:44 PM XXCoder: lol well congats man lol 🎉
04:44 PM roycroft: i also finally figured out that it is more painful to install the slides the lower in the cabinets i go, because of how i have to contort my body to reach in to install them
04:44 PM roycroft: so now i'm installing from the bottom up instead of the top down, so i get the painful part over with early on, before i'm tired
04:45 PM JT-Shop: travis_farmer853, I have 7i80HD-25's in stock I don't expect any 16's anytime soon
04:45 PM JT-Shop: they work the same
04:46 PM travis_farmer853: hmm, a bit more than my budget allows just now. i will keep that in mind though.
04:48 PM travis_farmer853: hmm, not much more though...
04:48 PM JT-Shop: and there are only a few 25's left
04:50 PM roycroft: i'm not trying to convince you to push the button, but i'll point out that in this economy, waiting for something to come back in stock can be an exercise in futility, and that inflation is making pricing rather unpredictable
04:51 PM roycroft: if/when the boards you want are available again, the price may have increased substantially
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04:52 PM * roycroft heads back out to the shop on that note
04:54 PM XXCoder: my silly 10 minute project to make magnetic holder for my vp remote is working out very well
04:54 PM travis_farmer853: JT-Shop: ordered one (yes, just one)
04:55 PM XXCoder: I already fixed the design issues but didnt bother to print it again, unless old one has more problem
04:55 PM XXCoder: travis_farmer853: dont you mean one hundred? ;)
04:55 PM travis_farmer853: LOL
04:55 PM JT-Shop: I will ship that Monday
04:55 PM travis_farmer853: ok, thanks 🙂
04:56 PM * JT-Shop gets out a BFH and tries to dislodge the post from the deck so it can be replicated
05:04 PM XXCoder: quick question
05:04 PM XXCoder: - is ground and + is vcc correct?
05:04 PM JT-Shop: usually
05:04 PM XXCoder: ok thanks. wanted to confirm
05:04 PM XXCoder: im working on electrics of my project
05:07 PM travis_farmer853: this is probably the most terrifying electronics question i can think of... especialy if it is followed by an "ohh..." 😉
05:08 PM XXCoder: lol
05:08 PM XXCoder: i was sure I was right, but my memory sucks so yeah
05:08 PM travis_farmer853: lol
05:08 PM JT-Shop: I just removed 1 3/4 pounds of screws holding the deck railing caps on
05:10 PM ZincBoy[CAON]066: Always good to check so the smoke doesn't escape 🙂 Plus if you are working with old ECL based systems + is gnd and - is Vee.
05:11 PM travis_farmer853: everything runs on smoke... you let the smoke out, and it stops working... 😉
05:11 PM XXCoder: yup magic smoke
05:12 PM travis_farmer853: i can't afford magic smoke... i just use regular smoke 😉
05:20 PM XXCoder: its working
05:28 PM JT-Shop2: what are you making?
05:28 PM XXCoder: rotating table
05:28 PM XXCoder: it'll have replacable top for various uses
05:29 PM XXCoder: file:///home/rolf/Desktop/DC-5V-12V-6V-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Mini-2-phase-4-wire-4-phase-5-wire.jpg_Q90.jpg_.webp
05:29 PM XXCoder: thats very cheap, and can control small stepper
05:31 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803553672944.html is most expensive part of this
05:31 PM CaptHindsight[m]: XXCoder: please post your root password and IP address for SSH to your link :)
05:31 PM XXCoder: oops a sec
05:31 PM JT-Shop2: File not found
05:31 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2251832820854117.html
05:31 PM XXCoder: forgot I saved file locally and opened in browser
05:32 PM JT-Shop2: that's pretty cost effective
05:32 PM XXCoder: yep. power source is very cheap at 3 usd.
05:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: like those stepper motor testers
05:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: with a speed control knob
05:33 PM XXCoder: https://www.ebay.com/itm/125296005809
05:33 PM XXCoder: simple dc jack with breakout for it
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05:40 PM XXCoder: well
05:40 PM XXCoder: its been rotating for while now
05:40 PM XXCoder: no het issues or anything
05:45 PM Tom_shop is now known as Tom_L
05:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium_telluride
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06:00 PM roycroft: well that's all done
06:00 PM XXCoder: 🎉
06:02 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it's not done until the floor is swept and nap pillows are put away
06:02 PM * JT-Shop2 tries to remember how he cut the dado's in the 4x4 22 years ago
06:03 PM CaptHindsight[m]: template?
06:03 PM JT-Shop2: roycroft: looking good
06:04 PM JT-Shop2: I prob used my skill saw back then
06:04 PM roycroft: https://roycroft.us/New_Cabinets/07_Assembled_Cabinets.jpeg
06:04 PM roycroft: there
06:04 PM XXCoder: nice
06:05 PM JT-Shop2: just looked
06:05 PM CaptHindsight[m]: looks like a cabinet of some sort
06:05 PM roycroft: it's progress
06:05 PM JT-Shop2: keeping that page open for updates
06:05 PM JT-Shop2: lot's of progress
06:05 PM roycroft: my knees are really sore
06:05 PM * JT-Shop2 has 160' of deck railing to replace after replacing this 4x4
06:06 PM roycroft: even with the stall mats, kneeling down to install those drawer slides caused a lot of pain
06:06 PM roycroft: anyway
06:06 PM JT-Shop2: I go to great pains to pad my knees if I have kneel much
06:06 PM roycroft: i thought the stall mats would be enough
06:06 PM roycroft: and a few years ago they would have been
06:06 PM roycroft: but not now, as i learned
06:07 PM JT-Shop2: I prob used a speed square with the skill saw but I think I'll use my William NG sled with the dado blade
06:07 PM roycroft: i have to figure out why my lawn mower doesn't want to run, and get it going, then cut the grass
06:07 PM roycroft: hopefully i can get that done today, so tomorrow i can start making drawers
06:08 PM roycroft: all the hard work on that project is done now, though
06:08 PM roycroft: building/installing the carcases, and installing the drawer slides, was pretty hard work
06:08 PM roycroft: drawers will be a breeze in comparison, even though they will take a lot longer
06:09 PM JT-Shop2: electric mower?
06:10 PM * JT-Shop2 decides he's done for the day
06:10 PM roycroft: the grass is almost knee-high in part of my yard now
06:10 PM roycroft: no electric mower would deal with that
06:10 PM roycroft: i have a lawnboy gasoline mower that's about 15 years old
06:11 PM JT-Shop2: you would need those super tall wheels for that
06:11 PM XXCoder: goats
06:11 PM JT-Shop2: sheep
06:11 PM roycroft: i can set the wheels pretty high
06:11 PM roycroft: i had to take the blade off the other day to sharpen it, and it wouldn't start when i reinstalled the blade
06:11 PM XXCoder: watching video on how to calculate planet gear ratio
06:12 PM roycroft: more than likely i just flooded it by tipping it on its side to service the blade
06:12 PM JT-Shop2: https://static1.hotcarsimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/rims3.jpg?q=50&fit=contain&w=750&h=375&dpr=1.5
06:12 PM XXCoder: I use electric mower and its great
06:12 PM roycroft: i expect it will likely start up right away when i go out to mow
06:12 PM Tom_L: i sharpen my blade at least every other cutting and usually ever one
06:12 PM XXCoder: weaker than gas, but ez
06:12 PM roycroft: i sharpen mine a few times/year
06:12 PM JT-Shop2: my mower has carbide tipped blades
06:12 PM roycroft: about once every 4-6 weeks
06:12 PM Tom_L: but you take excellent care of your wood tools
06:12 PM Tom_L: wtf
06:13 PM XXCoder: I sharpen mower once in never
06:13 PM roycroft: i take appropriate care of my tools :)
06:13 PM XXCoder: honestly really need to actually sharpen lol
06:13 PM XXCoder: would file work fine on sharping, or grinder?
06:13 PM Tom_L: i have 3-4 blades so if i don't feel like sharpening, i just swap it out and get to the sharpening later
06:13 PM roycroft: a file works ok
06:14 PM Tom_L: file works great if you do it regular
06:14 PM roycroft: i've found that my belt grinder is excellent for sharpening the mower blade
06:14 PM JT-Shop2: a cheap balancer is good to use
06:14 PM roycroft: i don't bother with a balancer any more
06:14 PM roycroft: i used to use it all the time
06:14 PM XXCoder: never is kind of a lie, I did sharpen one years ago, using dermel. used nail on wall as balance
06:14 PM JT-Shop2: I assume if I ever have to sharpen mine a green wheel would be needed
06:14 PM roycroft: but when i sharpen on my belt grinder, i take an equal number of even strokes on each side
06:15 PM XXCoder: but I cant really remember when that was. it was well over 10 years ago.
06:15 PM roycroft: i found that it always stayed balanced, so i don't bother with the balancer now
06:15 PM roycroft: i should probably use it once in a while ust to be sure
06:15 PM Tom_L: it just looks nicer with a sharp blade. it actually cuts instead of whacks
06:15 PM XXCoder: roy honestly nail on wall is close enough
06:15 PM roycroft: yeah, well i have a balancer
06:15 PM * JT-Shop2 goes to sit with Woody III she is recovering from surgery
06:15 PM roycroft: it's a cheap plastic cone thing
06:15 PM roycroft: i probably paid $2 for it
06:16 PM roycroft: and i've had it forever
06:16 PM XXCoder: aka 3d printable. easy enough
06:16 PM XXCoder: would cost me essentally zero
06:16 PM JT-Shop2: super simple a cone on a stick
06:16 PM roycroft: i think i'm recovered enough from the kneeling to go check on the mower
06:16 PM roycroft: i would like to know whether it's going to just work or whether i need to do some maintenance
06:17 PM roycroft: hopefully i'll have some pics of drawers installed in the new cabinets before too long
06:17 PM * roycroft heads out to the mower shed
06:18 PM Tom_L: better than being taken to the wood shed...
06:28 PM roycroft: well, i was right
06:28 PM XXCoder: flooded eh
06:28 PM roycroft: it started on the first pull, so it must have flooded
06:29 PM roycroft: now i can go make the neighbors less annoyed with me :)
06:30 PM Tom_L: what a guy...
07:03 PM _unreal_: holy helll my hands are killing me.
07:04 PM _unreal_: just finished the major part of breaking down these sat's.
07:04 PM _unreal_: ve7it, got a bunch of sat's as of late
07:07 PM t4nk_freenode: demolition man
07:07 PM _unreal_: no kidding
07:08 PM _unreal_: and OMG.. june is likely to be the biggest short squeeze ever.
07:08 PM t4nk_freenode: get yer rake ready then ;)
07:08 PM _unreal_: if your in the stock market and your suddenly going up like a rocket FOLLOW IT CLOSE
07:09 PM _unreal_: I'm sure as hell not going to be scare to take profit.
07:09 PM t4nk_freenode: you can have my share, help yourself buddy
07:12 PM CloudEvil: The most amusing bit of the twitter ads that are frequent on my feed are the legally mandated '85% of retail investors lose money'
07:12 PM t4nk_freenode: hehe
07:13 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
07:13 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
07:13 PM _unreal_: the only people who loose sell
07:13 PM _unreal_: regardless OMG. I got so many nice parts from these sats
07:14 PM _unreal_: also got some interesting new BLDC motors that have internal breaks
07:16 PM _unreal_: I also got a new BLDC motor controller that is a tri motor conroller
07:16 PM _unreal_: I need to take apart the main controller a bit. have yet to get to that part.
07:16 PM _unreal_: I need to figure out what the wire feed is?
07:17 PM _unreal_: not sure to the motor controller which wires are power which wires are control and how does it control it..
07:18 PM t4nk_freenode: doorbell, _unreal_, the owners of the sats asking why you took them and if they can get them back asap :b
07:20 PM _unreal_: hardly they left them behind
08:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I imagine that they will be moving to phased array tech soon with Musk-Sat services
08:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: no more motors
08:20 PM _unreal_: could be
08:20 PM _unreal_: I'm drowning in BLDC motors at the moment
08:21 PM * roycroft is just drowning in chores
08:23 PM _unreal_: haaa haaa
08:23 PM _unreal_: when I get to it, I'm hoping this new tri motor controller is easy to control
08:23 PM _unreal_: would be amazing if it was just step/dir input
08:24 PM _unreal_: I doubt it though
08:24 PM roycroft: i think i need to find a teenager who is willing to do some weeding for money
08:25 PM _unreal_: two of the motors I believe only have a break in them and one has an encoder. meaning the other two only fuction as "DC" MOTORS by fine control based off of the 3 axis gyro
08:25 PM _unreal_: roycroft, I'm sure most teens will work for weed
08:36 PM XXCoder: weeding for weeds
08:52 PM roycroft: metaweed
10:53 PM acer is now known as _unreal_