#linuxcnc Logs

Apr 04 2022

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01:47 AM Deejay: moin
03:08 AM randy: morning
04:44 AM Tom_L: morning
05:43 AM JT-Cave: morning
09:33 AM Loetmichel_: hmm, question for the native speakers here. I just went to the sheet metal seller and got some metal. when back i said to my coworker to mark the invoice with "Ausgelegt: [my name]" (meaning i paid the metal from my private account and will get it back from our boss later... the coworker being romanian asked if there is a word for that in english. Is there?
09:35 AM roycroft: we call the process expense reimbursement, and commonly refer to an individual item procured that way as an 'expense'
09:35 AM randy: i would translate it with "laid out" :) but i think this is wrong english :p
09:35 AM roycroft: we sometimes misuse the term as a verb as in "i'll expense it"
09:36 AM roycroft: i have always had to submit an expense reimbursement form along with the receipt in order to be reimbursed
09:37 AM randy: i think "expense" means the value itself, or? in german "die ausgabe"
09:37 AM enleth: actually, there's a roughly synonymous English term "outlay" that matches the German word perfectly
09:37 AM roycroft: i've never worked anywhere that had a procedure to just write my name on the receipt and submit it, and don't know if there is a word that is normally used for that
09:37 AM enleth: but it wouldn't be normally used in this specific situation
09:38 AM roycroft: as it's an unusual way to submit the request
09:38 AM Loetmichel_: roycroft: small company here, i dont think we even HAVE a form for that
09:38 AM Loetmichel_: usually writing "ausgelegt" and a name on the reciept is enough to get reimbursed here
09:38 AM randy: we are a small company, we have a fill blown business process for this :p (typical germans)
09:38 AM roycroft: it's a standard accounting practice
09:39 AM roycroft: i have my own form that i use for clients who do not have their own form
09:39 AM randy: online form + pdf scan from the receipt + acknowglede from the manager + correct "kostenstellennummer"
09:39 AM roycroft: this kind of reimbursement is often done for clients as well as employers
09:39 AM randy: and a second employee from HR is crosschecking of the reimpursment is valid
09:39 AM roycroft: i use it for clients under two circumstances, normally:
09:40 AM Loetmichel_: roycroft: good thing i call my boss (and his CFO wife) by first name then.
09:40 AM roycroft: 1. the client is a non-profit and i want to pass the cost through to them directly, without any markup (running it through my accounting system requires a markup as there is cost involved in invoicing)
09:40 AM Loetmichel_: usually a "Can you get jenny to reimburse me on that reciept?" jell across the fabrication hall when boss walks by is enough to get the money back :)
09:41 AM roycroft: 2. the primary billable work is my services, the tangible goods are incidental to that, and i want to be reimbursed for the out of pocket expenses prior to billing for the actual work
09:43 AM roycroft: if i were just writing on the receipt/invoice itself i would probably write "reimbursable expense: roycroft", or something similar
09:45 AM Loetmichel_: roycroft: yep, sounds good. thanks
09:49 AM roycroft: it is rainy here today, and there's a chance of thunderstorms
10:00 AM roycroft: there's a high surf and sneaker wave advisory today
10:00 AM roycroft: the storm coming in must be pretty intense
10:21 AM roycroft: and today's presenter just pronounced aufderheide "off deer hide"
02:45 PM MrSunshine: hmm so got my computer down to 2500 in jitter .. very steady .... have my linuxcnc set at 11500 in jitter (from old computer), but when i start linuxcnc there is a realtime spike that it complains on ?
03:23 PM unterhaus_: MrSunshine, I always thought the startup real time fault was possibly due to the way it starts up, but you can't tell if there are further events because it stops checking
03:24 PM MrSunshine: yeah, thats what i feel also .. and stuck on vesa driver for low jitte r.. might be due to nvidia card i read on the web? cant get propertiery drivers for nvidia card working either :P
03:24 PM MrSunshine: using noveaau or whatever the name is i have jitter up to 50k .. :/
03:24 PM roycroft: folks who use mesa cards never need worry about jitter :)
03:24 PM unterhaus_: are you using software stepping?
03:25 PM MrSunshine: roycroft, well try and get your hands on the mesa cards atm ...
03:25 PM MrSunshine: atleast in europe i cant find any where its not out of stock
03:25 PM MrSunshine: unterhaus_, yes planing on buying mesa card but cant get hold of one =)
03:26 PM roycroft: that's the problem, yes
03:26 PM unterhaus_: I guess it's too hard to get one from mesa? They still have a few 7i92, which can be used with a parport breakout board
03:32 PM MrSunshine: hmm aparently eurosurplus.com had 7i92M in stock .. i guess its an alternetive tho i didnt like to use the existing bob .. i guess it doesnt mater much as i do not have to rebuild the whoile cabinett to use it then :P
03:51 PM unterhaus_: I think that's a big advantage if you have an existing parport machine
03:53 PM MrSunshine: yeah, true that .. and i guess its expandable with another bob if i want .. or some other mesa card later if i need more io =)
03:53 PM MrSunshine: just have to check how i pay this stuff as they only have bank transfer as payment alternetive :P
04:00 PM roycroft: i got so lucky last fall
04:00 PM roycroft: i needed a 7i96 and mesa were out of them, as was jt
04:01 PM roycroft: but jt "found" one a couple days later and was able to send it to me
04:01 PM XXCoder: wow I just bought new so advanced measuring tape https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749283134893457459/960518085666807848/wmcn5rrg67r81.png
04:01 PM roycroft: and i don't think he's had any since
04:02 PM roycroft: i'm not sure how useful that is, xxcoder
04:02 PM roycroft: if it were a binary tape, perhaps
04:02 PM XXCoder: lol
04:02 PM roycroft: you could just cover up the "yes" with a '1' and it would be binary
04:03 PM roycroft: assuming the scale were large enough
04:04 PM XXCoder: but it turns to "yes" when its large as you want it to be!
04:05 PM roycroft: so it's scalable
04:05 PM roycroft: and unit-independent
04:06 PM roycroft: so we don't have to have those silly american customary vs. si arguments any more
04:06 PM XXCoder: would be amazing for some raw blocks measuring lol
04:06 PM roycroft: except the si standard for yes would probably be "oui"
04:07 PM XXCoder: and no being nein
04:07 PM MrSunshine_: gah this stupid laptop ... batteries goes like butter
04:07 PM MrSunshine_: all of the sudden stops charging the battery and i have to do a "reset" of it ...
04:08 PM MrSunshine_ is now known as MrSunshine
04:08 PM XXCoder: so you spread batteries like butter? ;)
04:08 PM MrSunshine: something like that
04:08 PM MrSunshine: first battery swelled up so i couldnt use the mousepad anymore .. bought a new and havent worked good since :P
04:09 PM roycroft: but the question is: do you pronounce "battery" with two sylables or three?
04:09 PM XXCoder: I dont use syllabities so cant answer
04:09 PM roycroft: in canadian it's pronounced "bat-tree"
04:10 PM roycroft: because they are a very silly people
04:35 PM XXCoder: lol ok
04:43 PM Tom_L: is si pronounced sigh or see?
04:44 PM roycroft: in spanish, it's prounced like see
04:45 PM roycroft: but when describing the system of measurement, it's pronounced "ess eye"
04:45 PM roycroft: in english
05:10 PM t4nk_freenode: in spanish it would be 'esse ee'
05:15 PM roycroft: depending on the context
05:15 PM t4nk_freenode: we're talking about the international system of elements, no*
05:15 PM t4nk_freenode: * pronounced NO
05:16 PM t4nk_freenode: I bought a center punch today btw
05:17 PM t4nk_freenode: but, si*, I'm having great difficulties determining the holes still
05:17 PM t4nk_freenode: *pronounced: sigh
05:18 PM roycroft: we talk about many things
05:19 PM t4nk_freenode: no, You do :)))
05:19 PM t4nk_freenode: 'como una cascada'
05:25 PM Tom_L: t4nk_freenode, one of these? https://generaltools.com/automatic-center-punch
05:27 PM t4nk_freenode: yeah, I saw one of those, would be real handy, but I got one I have to hammer myself ;)
05:27 PM Tom_L: i've got both but use that one all the time
05:28 PM t4nk_freenode: my biggest problem is that I am not sure about where I'm putting the holes
05:28 PM Tom_L: just random holes?
05:28 PM Tom_L: don't you mark them?
05:29 PM Tom_L: then punch the cross hairs
05:29 PM roycroft: i have an optical center punch that is really nice
05:29 PM roycroft: i can line my punches up to within a couple thousandths with it
05:29 PM * Tom_L thinks roycroft has an over abundance of tools
05:30 PM roycroft: you may be correct
05:30 PM roycroft: however, i am getting pretty good at getting rid of the ones i don't use
05:30 PM t4nk_freenode: Tom_L, https://postimg.cc/dkLRvjjD
05:31 PM t4nk_freenode: this is what I made out of sheer desperation
05:31 PM t4nk_freenode: to slide over a piece of square tube
05:32 PM t4nk_freenode: I can't see any other way of marking the holes smack center of the tube
05:32 PM XXCoder: t4nk_freenode: plenty of tools on 3d model sites like printables
05:32 PM roycroft: http://www.veritastools.com/Products/Page.aspx?p=96
05:33 PM Tom_L: i'd forget and smack the glass
05:33 PM XXCoder: https://www.printables.com/model/88586-center-finder
05:34 PM XXCoder: example
05:34 PM t4nk_freenode: XXCoder, I came across a 'center finder' on thingiverse
05:34 PM XXCoder: you could easult make your own
05:34 PM t4nk_freenode: heh... ;)
05:35 PM t4nk_freenode: yeah, that would probably work for the center line
05:37 PM roycroft: it works really well, tom_l
05:38 PM roycroft: i got that way before i even got my milling machine, and did some fairly precise drilling with it, my surface plate, and a drill press
05:38 PM Tom_L: HF sell em?
05:40 PM Tom_L: seriously though... it looks like a good idea
05:44 PM _unreal_: holy hell we have house ionternet back again
05:45 PM _unreal_: the phone company guys are outside re-connecting houses right now
05:45 PM _unreal_: FINALLY
05:47 PM _unreal_: and great now my computer is having a freak out becuase it has internet again....
05:49 PM roycroft: lots of pr0n to catch up on
05:50 PM roycroft: i hope you're going to be compensated handsomly for your prolonged outage
05:51 PM _unreal_: ya its called the stopped charging
05:51 PM * _unreal_ rolles eyes
05:52 PM _unreal_: yep this windows pc is now freaking out for updates
05:52 PM _unreal_: sigh
06:04 PM acer is now known as _unreal_
07:03 PM t4nk_freenode: hehe, yeah, I'd smack the glass too ;)
07:12 PM t4nk_freenode: I'll grow a pair of ..ehhh... 'rocket launchers' tomorrow, and mark the holes by hand
07:12 PM t4nk_freenode: printed a small center finder now too
07:14 PM Tom_L: sounds real accurate
07:15 PM t4nk_freenode: cut it out man, your undermining my brittle esteem :(
07:16 PM * Tom_L shatters it like a piece of tempered glass
07:16 PM t4nk_freenode: lol, like a center punch eye piece
07:16 PM Tom_L: that one was only fifty bucks
07:16 PM Tom_L: not that bad for what it does
07:35 PM t4nk_freenode: https://postimg.cc/ygBSfqLm see, this is what I'm experimenting with
07:37 PM t4nk_freenode: I don't think I see what you mean exactly
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07:48 PM Tom_L: <________>
07:48 PM Tom_L: flip that over and that's what i meant
07:48 PM XXCoder: ?
07:49 PM Tom_L: https://postimg.cc/ygBSfqLm
07:49 PM Tom_L: for those that missed out
07:49 PM XXCoder: making cnc the hard way?
07:50 PM Tom_L: not me
07:50 PM t4nk_freenode: me.
07:50 PM XXCoder: cool :)
07:52 PM t4nk_freenode: you see some fix it with an edge up, and then have two bearings with a spacer inbetween to ride the edge
07:53 PM t4nk_freenode: but my gut feeling says that is not as is should be
07:58 PM Rab_ is now known as Rab
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