#linuxcnc Logs

Mar 18 2022

#linuxcnc Calendar

02:08 AM Deejay: moin
05:04 AM Tom_L: morning
05:04 AM Tom_L: 37°F & rain
05:16 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:17 AM olivierbeaupuy[m: Morning
06:20 AM JT-Cave: olivierbeaupuy[m, do you speak French?
06:22 AM olivierbeaupuy[m: JT-Cave: yes i am french
06:22 AM JT-Cave: https://gnipsel.com/mesa/translate/translate.html
06:23 AM JT-Cave: can you see if google translate did a good job on that page?
06:23 AM * JT-Cave wonders if Loetmichel is around
06:31 AM Tom_L: snow
06:33 AM JT-Cave: showers likely here today... third day trying to make an old loader system work again
06:45 AM JT-Cave: found out this morning that the old panel view which was DH+ and the replacement is RS-232 and the PLC communicated differently
06:48 AM olivierbeaupuy[m: > * <@JT-Cave:libera.chat> wonders if Loetmichel is around
06:48 AM olivierbeaupuy[m: Résultats de traduction
06:48 AM olivierbeaupuy[m: ok I can watch but I don't speak English well and I lack technical language
06:48 AM olivierbeaupuy[m: I will do my best 😅
06:48 AM JT-Cave: thanks
06:48 AM olivierbeaupuy[m: s/Résultats//, s/de traduction//
06:49 AM JT-Cave: it's just a few simple instructions that I translated
06:55 AM Loetmichel: JT-Cave: here!
06:55 AM unterhaus: It looks okay to me, but to say my french is intermediate level is a bit of an exaggeration
07:02 AM JT-Cave: thanks
07:02 AM Loetmichel: JT-Cave: seen the query?
07:03 AM JT-Cave: Loetmichel, can you check my translation here https://gnipsel.com/mesa/translate/translate.html
07:05 AM JT-Cave: at one time I could order 3 eggs over easy and tell the waiter to burn my buddies steak to a crisp in French
07:05 AM JT-Cave: and I could tell the deckhand to turn the water off in Portuguese
07:16 AM unterhaus: those are very useful things to know
07:26 AM unterhaus: I wonder if carbonise is worse than calciner when it comes to burning steak?
07:27 AM Loetmichel: well, either is a pity for the wasted meat.
07:27 AM Loetmichel: IMHO
07:27 AM unterhaus: it's my friend's steak, so what do I care? :)
07:28 AM unterhaus: google says calciner means "burned to a crisp"
07:28 AM Loetmichel: unterhaus: because its a waste of meat.
07:28 AM Loetmichel: if the friend refuses to eat it then
07:29 AM unterhaus: You think they would take me seriously?
07:30 AM unterhaus: there was a time when charred food was in fashion, haven't seen it recently though
07:32 AM JT-Cave: I can't eat a well done steak it's horrible
07:33 AM unterhaus: not a fan either. I like mine on the rare side
07:34 AM JT-Cave: I like mine medium rare
07:34 AM unterhaus: that's what I always order, hoping they won't quite get there.
07:35 AM Loetmichel: unterhaus: "show the oxen the fire, clean its snout and ass and bring it to the table" is my preferred state of steak
07:35 AM unterhaus: I thought German steak was always well done and covered in gravy
07:35 AM Loetmichel: thats schnitzel, not steak ;)
07:36 AM Loetmichel: cow vs. pig
07:36 AM Loetmichel: pig HAS to be well done
07:36 AM unterhaus: I never felt like eating steak in Germany anyway.
07:38 AM Loetmichel: <- just had a VERY tasty "paniertes schnitzel" smothered in "jägersoße" and pan fried potatoes with tons of diced bacon as a side.
07:38 AM Loetmichel: ... like every friday lunch at the company.
07:39 AM Loetmichel: (its "tradition" here to order from a certain delivery service on fridays)
07:40 AM unterhaus: There used to be 2 german restaurants here, I think the one closed because the father died and the son wasn't capable of running a restaurant
07:41 AM unterhaus: no French restaurants at all.
07:45 AM Loetmichel: hehe... Note to self: letting the propane torch standing in the stream of the angle grinder sparks makes for funny "fireworks" the next time you use said torch. Looks like a hundred sparklers going off all at once ;)
09:59 AM perry_j1987: morning
10:06 AM enleth: unterhaus: this is why you find a place that serves steak on a chunk of hot granite - order it rare, eat it however you like, the granite is hot enough that you can press a slice against it with the fork and wait a few seconds to get the inside to cook, but not hot enough to actually affect the remaining whole steak
10:07 AM enleth: all they need to get right is carmelizing the outside nicely
10:07 AM enleth: bonus: you can really take your time eating, no need to rush or eat a cold steak
10:09 AM enleth: doing this yourself is easy too, just preheat the granite in the oven
10:10 AM enleth: for added fun, use an old, out-of-spec surface plate
10:11 AM enleth: I'm amazed that this is not widely recognized as the proper way to serve a premium steak everywhere that actually cares about steak
10:12 AM perry_j1987: those poor animals
10:12 AM perry_j1987: those poor surface plates
10:13 AM perry_j1987: lol
10:14 AM enleth: perry_j1987: if I ever get one of those tiny, almost pocked-sized Starrett plates and find out it's way beyond a simple rescraping, I'm turning it into a steak plate
10:14 AM enleth: especially if it still has the brass plaque attached
10:15 AM perry_j1987: you can guarantee no grease, oil, solvents ever soaked into the pores of the granite?
10:19 AM enleth: perry_j1987: no, but I'm quite confident that I can clean out and then burn out enough that I'd feel safe
10:19 AM enleth: I mean, I'm aware of the issue
10:19 AM perry_j1987: aye
10:20 AM perry_j1987: now you need 100 of them and open up a steak house called the machinist
10:20 AM perry_j1987: serve everything on them heh
10:20 AM perry_j1987: calipers turned into forks on the end and stuff haha
10:20 AM perry_j1987: scale peened into a spoon
10:21 AM perry_j1987: dial indicator candle holders
10:23 AM perry_j1987: on noga bases
10:53 AM Loetmichel: perry_j1987: i think you found a nice niece market. that COULD work, especially in citys with enough engineers/engineering students
10:54 AM perry_j1987: serve drinks like screw drivers haha
12:01 PM CloudEvil: enleth: No! Don't use granite.
12:01 PM CloudEvil: Use glass optical flats.
12:01 PM CloudEvil: Guaranteed no oil absorbtion.
12:02 PM CloudEvil: Also, slightly more seriously, granite begins to decompose thermally at moderately low temperatures.
12:28 PM solarwind: So my big clark forklift won't start anymore for some reason. I replaced the fuel lockout, vapourizer, mixer, made sure the throttle body is clean
12:29 PM solarwind: Only thing I can think of is spark plugs. There's definitely a spark. Seems very faint, but it's there, so the plugs are working
12:30 PM solarwind: I keep cranking but it just won't start. It has propane, oil is still good. Can't imagine what could possibly be the reason a relatively simple system like this wouldn't work
12:30 PM solarwind: Only thing I can think of is someone is messing with me and changed the order of all the spark plug wires from the distributor
12:30 PM solarwind: Was working fine before the winter
12:30 PM Tom_L: it would backfire
12:31 PM solarwind: Only reason I replaced the fuel lockout, varpourizer, mixer was because the hoses were getting old and I figured might as well replace the whole fuel system
12:31 PM solarwind: So other than not leaking propane anymore, still not starting
12:32 PM solarwind: There's a small hose coming from the middle of the air intake hose and going to somewhere deep inside and I can't imagine what it's for.
12:32 PM solarwind: It's connected between the air filter and mixer, so it's not measuring manifold absolute pressure or anything like that
12:33 PM solarwind: It's also a thin hose, so air volume can't be very big, so no idea what the purpose of that hose is
12:36 PM solarwind: Maybe it's not cranking fast enough, but I can't imagine that to be an issue. Going to hook it up to 18V and see if that helps. The starter motor barely gets warm even after extended cranking periods so doesn't feel like it's being stressed
12:39 PM solarwind: I took apart the old vaporizer and the diaphragm had 1974-06-24 or something stamped on it. I can't believe it's _that_ old
12:39 PM solarwind: Also unusual to see ISO format datestamps on American equipment
12:40 PM solarwind: But incredible it was working perfectly just before the winter. What could have possibly happened sitting outside for a few months that would make the engine not start!?
12:41 PM solarwind: Not possible to bring this indoors, so I have to do all repair work outside :(
12:44 PM solarwind: This is starting to look like I have to take the cylinder heads off. Ugh what a pain in the ass
12:44 PM solarwind: It's an inline six. Might as well replace it with a brand new Toyota 4Y or something which is surprisingly universally cheap: $2,500
01:33 PM perry_j1987: time for an electric forklift?
01:39 PM CloudEvil: Electric forklift?
01:39 PM CloudEvil: It'll never catch on.
02:02 PM roycroft: what's really needed is a nucular forklift
02:02 PM roycroft: powered by mr fusion
02:03 PM roycroft: 'cuz when it needs juice, you can just drink a six-pack of coors lite and stuff the empty cans down the mr fusion to fuel it
02:03 PM roycroft: what could possibly go wrong with that?
02:04 PM XXCoder: mr fusion yeah nothing. just use floor sweepings once a while
02:05 PM solarwind: Silly me, the hose is the PCV system
02:05 PM solarwind: still no idea why it won't start, it's such an old school system
02:06 PM roycroft: it boggles the mind that folks are still using flux capacitors
02:07 PM roycroft: 1. fuel
02:07 PM roycroft: 2. air
02:07 PM roycroft: 3. spark
02:07 PM roycroft: which of those is missing?
02:08 PM solarwind: That's the thing, I checked all three
02:09 PM solarwind: But timing and all that are also important, so I have to make sure the spark plugs are hooked up to the right points on the distributor
02:09 PM solarwind: If it turns out the spark plug wires are all out of order, I know who is messing with me haha
02:10 PM roycroft: i remember setting up a vw engine once with the spark plug wires connected off by one
02:10 PM roycroft: it took me about 10 minutes to figure out what was wrong
02:10 PM roycroft: then it fired right up
02:11 PM roycroft: you've checked for spark at the plugs themselves?
02:30 PM solarwind: Yup, pulled each spark plug out and checked for a spark
02:31 PM solarwind: lots of rust in the sealing washer and all that, engine is probably from the 70s. Could definitely use a thorough clean up
02:32 PM Tom_L: stuff some ether down it's throat and see if it blows up
02:33 PM solarwind: That's how I used to start it before
02:33 PM solarwind: a bit of engine starting fluid in the cold and it did the trick.
02:33 PM solarwind: It's probably something really simple or stupid. Going to verify the firing order and timing
02:33 PM solarwind: at least the weather is getting a lot better
02:34 PM Tom_L: if nobody messed with it why would that be off?
02:34 PM solarwind: that's the thing, I can't rule out someone playing a joke on me
02:34 PM solarwind: low chance, but not impossible
02:34 PM Tom_L: swapped the propane tank for co2
02:35 PM solarwind: No that's definitely propane. Can smell it and I always keep that indoors anyway
02:36 PM Tom_L: condensation on the plugs causin them to short across
02:36 PM Tom_L: heat them with a torch to dry them out
02:36 PM Tom_L: condensation in the dist cap
02:37 PM Tom_L: you can see arc lines on it...
02:38 PM Tom_L: somebody took the rotor out of the distributor
02:39 PM solarwind: LOL the distributor definitely works, I can see the spark at the spark plug for each plug
02:39 PM solarwind: But I will dry out the spark plugs and clean them
02:39 PM Tom_L: you said weak spark.. weak spark under pressure = no spark
02:40 PM solarwind: oh
02:40 PM solarwind: that might be the case then, I'll give it a shot
02:40 PM solarwind: condensation makes sense this time of year
02:40 PM Tom_L: you said you smell fuel
02:41 PM Tom_L: the canadian air i suppose could still cause combustion...
02:41 PM Tom_L: all you need now is a god match
02:41 PM Tom_L: good
02:41 PM solarwind: there are fog warnings, the air is super saturated
02:41 PM solarwind: so condensation is guaranteed
02:41 PM Tom_L: problem solved.
02:42 PM Tom_L: next time park it inside
02:42 PM solarwind: Can't, no ramp
02:42 PM solarwind: That'll be a project for this year though
02:43 PM Tom_L: build a lift... get it.. a forklift :)
02:43 PM solarwind: That's the purpose of this one, to lift other things in an out including other forklifts
02:43 PM solarwind: But this is the biggest and heaviest one, so nothing can lift this one
02:43 PM solarwind: Makes oil changes and such a lot more of a nuisance
02:44 PM solarwind: It's an old but otherwise perfectly functional Clark C500-15 with 15,000 lb rated capacity
04:06 PM perry_j1987: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcsZRLWoHZM
05:18 PM JT-Shop: hmm my router doesn't have enough power for the lock miter sr bit
05:19 PM Tom_L: set it up on the mill :)
05:21 PM Tom_L: probably not enough rpm
05:22 PM Tom_L: side note: i know you use lakeshore carbide but i did a comparison on this last batch of parts using similar cutters from online carbide
05:22 PM Tom_L: i have a few of both
05:22 PM Tom_L: the lakeshore have a finer finish but online cut as well and are cheaper
05:22 PM Tom_L: similar geometry
05:23 PM Tom_L: same coatings
05:39 PM JT-Shop: turds at Infinity Tools keep trying to tell my the lock miter bit is not adjusted properly and watch this video... bullshit the pins are too fat to fit the groves period.
05:48 PM roycroft: i got my lock miter bits from grizzly of all places (i usually avoid them for cutters), and they both work brilliantly
05:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: customer service seems to be exponentially worse now vs pre-pandemic almost everywhere
06:19 PM roycroft: i've nere purchased from infinity tools, but they do have some interesting cutters that nobody else seems to carry
06:20 PM roycroft: i'm inclined not to purchase from them at this point, though, based on jt's experience
06:20 PM roycroft: i'd recommend jt contact them again and give them another opportunity to address the issue
06:20 PM JT-Shop: I have a lot of infinity cutters and they are all great except that one lock miter cutter
06:21 PM JT-Shop: I opened a ticket the other day and keep replying to it and they keep responding
06:21 PM roycroft: ask to escalate
06:29 PM JT-Shop: so a ringmaster only cuts straight sided rings so I want to up the anti and make an arc master that will cut arced rings
06:30 PM JT-Shop: I sent a photo of the lock miter jr and lock miter sr showing them that the jr is not cut correctly but the sr works perfectly and it has nothing to do with adjustments
06:31 PM XXCoder: hope that makes them understand
06:33 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/wood-working/lock-miter-03.jpg
06:33 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/wood-working/lock-miter-04.jpg
06:34 PM XXCoder: yeah that dont look right
06:34 PM XXCoder: the toughue is bit too fat
06:34 PM XXCoder: or groove too thin
06:34 PM JT-Shop: yup
06:35 PM JT-Shop: the top one is the sr and fits perfectly
06:35 PM Tom_L: you just need a smaller one?
06:35 PM Tom_L: or why not use the sr?
06:36 PM JT-Shop: the Bosch 2.25hp can run the jr but the sr is too big
06:36 PM JT-Shop: need a 3.5hp router for it
06:52 PM roycroft: the small one, at least most brands, claims to be able to handle 3/4" stock, but really works best at 3/8"-5/8"
06:53 PM roycroft: the larger one is good from about 1/2" to 1"
06:53 PM JT-Shop: yep, I kinda figured that out, the small one is marginal with 3/4" stock and right on the edge
06:53 PM roycroft: my router table spindle is 2.2kw, and that's what i use for the larger one
06:54 PM roycroft: at about 10,000rpm
06:54 PM roycroft: that thing is pretty big
06:54 PM roycroft: and has a lot of mass
06:57 PM roycroft: i've had a good, productive day today
06:58 PM JT-Shop: which router do you have?
06:58 PM roycroft: i've been working in my fabrication shop - i wanted to tidy it up so that i could finish refurbishing my small kiln
06:58 PM roycroft: in the router table an 80mm huanyang water cooled spindle
06:58 PM JT-Shop: I beat my head against the loader at Revere again today for the 3rd day
06:59 PM roycroft: for hand routers, i have a porter-cable trim router, a couple porter cable 690 (1-1/2hp), a porter cable 7518 (3.5hp vari-speed), and a milwaukee 18v fuel small router
06:59 PM JT-Shop: Briggs dug through their PLC stuff and came up with a SLC 5/05 which may fix the loader for now
07:00 PM roycroft: i would not mind getting some festool routers, if i ever see them on the refurb site and if i have some spare cash
07:00 PM roycroft: but i'm pretty happy with what i have
07:01 PM JT-Shop: I've seen some bad reviews on the PC 7518 for the speed control
07:01 PM roycroft: i have two 690s because when i use my dovetail jig, i like having one set up for the dovetail cutter and another set up for the straight cutter, and the 7518 is too big
07:01 PM roycroft: the speed control works fine on it
07:01 PM roycroft: but that model has been discontinued for a few years now
07:01 PM JT-Shop: must be luck of the draw
07:02 PM roycroft: so it doesn't matter if you don't already have one
07:02 PM roycroft: i got mine in the early '80s
07:02 PM roycroft: perhaps they made them better back then
07:02 PM roycroft: it was my router table router for years and years, until i built the new table about 6 years ago with the 80mm spindle
07:03 PM roycroft: i was very happy to have it back for easy use as a hand-held router
07:03 PM roycroft: one complaint folks have about it is that they try to use an external speed control, and that does not work on the 7518
07:03 PM roycroft: they blame it on the router
07:04 PM roycroft: but it's the same problem with any router that has a built-in speed control
07:04 PM roycroft: you use the built-in one, or you buy a single speed router and add the external speed controller
07:04 PM JT-Shop: time to call it a day...
07:04 PM roycroft: i have a special board meeting this evening
07:04 PM roycroft: i need to start dinner soon, so i can eat before the meeting
07:05 PM * roycroft heads off to heat up the oven and pull the pizza dough out of the fridge
07:12 PM Loetmichel: well, depends
07:13 PM Loetmichel: speed "controllers" for routers are often only "power" controllers in reality
07:13 PM Loetmichel: no RPM feedback
07:27 PM roycroft: you're up awfully late tonight
07:27 PM roycroft: friday night party?
07:28 PM roycroft: or did the wife kick you out of bed? :)
07:30 PM Loetmichel: nah, never went there until now.
07:30 PM Loetmichel: but i will be there soon
07:30 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: how are you?
07:32 PM Loetmichel: <- is always well
07:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: how is the invasion threat level there?
07:32 PM Loetmichel: in germany?
07:32 PM Loetmichel: inexistent.
07:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: low but keeping an eye out?
07:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yes
07:32 PM roycroft: it depends on what invasion you're talking about :)
07:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ah ok, was wondering what the avg person there was thinking
07:33 PM Loetmichel: he probably means putin going nuts
07:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah
07:33 PM Loetmichel: that would be a joke.
07:33 PM roycroft: germany is not the worry
07:33 PM roycroft: but poland may be a concern
07:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i thought that you guys were >90% solar
07:33 PM roycroft: and if poland invaded, article 5 is invoked
07:33 PM Loetmichel: russia is already struggling to not walk backwars with the ukraine. opening a second front would break their back
07:34 PM roycroft: there have already been russian drones that have drifted across the polish border
07:34 PM roycroft: nato are wisely chalking those up as "accidents"
07:35 PM Loetmichel: roycroft: SHOULD he be insane to do that the same thing will happen that happened at the end of WW2.
07:35 PM roycroft: i don't think putin wants article 5 invoked
07:35 PM Loetmichel: piss off enough countries and you CANT win.
07:35 PM roycroft: loetmichel: there are credible arguments that he IS insane
07:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: also didn't realize how much natural gas you still import
07:35 PM roycroft: it's the same concern we had about our former president
07:35 PM Loetmichel: CaptHindsight[m]: yeah, may get a little cold next winter. so what?
07:36 PM roycroft: not that he would be able to start and conduct a war that the american people do not want
07:36 PM roycroft: but that he might do something really insane
07:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: not crazy, just typical for a Russian/Soviet dictator
07:37 PM Loetmichel: roycroft: i doubt many of the warheads will actually still work. not to mention the rockets they are mounted on
07:37 PM roycroft: i don't think even stalin would bomb ukrainian hospitals and school children
07:37 PM roycroft: loetmichel: the missles are irrelevant
07:37 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: heh, what i figured but 1% of 5,000 is still too mnay
07:37 PM roycroft: the warheads could be detonated manually
07:38 PM roycroft: a dirty "tactical" bomb is possible even if your arsenal has gone to hell
07:38 PM Loetmichel: CaptHindsight[m]: from here it looks like he actually lost any resemblance of contact to reality.
07:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: unless all the warheads were already sold to pay for yachts
07:39 PM roycroft: a widely circulated theory is that he has contracted an uncurable disease
07:39 PM Loetmichel: not improbable ;)
07:39 PM Loetmichel: the yacht thing
07:39 PM roycroft: and wants to have a go at restoring the russian empire before he dies, no matter what the cost
07:39 PM Loetmichel: roycroft: thats what i meant with "lost any contact".
07:39 PM roycroft: yes
07:39 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Scholz is keeping himself busy
07:40 PM roycroft: he's wanted to restore the empire all his life
07:40 PM roycroft: he was never a good soviet
07:40 PM Loetmichel: the russian military isnt even able to blitz the ukraine, not even considering "rebuilding" anything.
07:40 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: I'm not too familiar with his history (Scholz)
07:40 PM roycroft: scholz is a technocrat's technocrat
07:40 PM Loetmichel: neither am I, CaptHindsight[m]
07:41 PM roycroft: his theme song is "domo arigoto, mr robato" :)
07:41 PM roycroft: arigato
07:41 PM Loetmichel: i had to ask my boss who succeeded merkel lately.
07:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: hah
07:41 PM Loetmichel: i am not really a "political" guy
07:42 PM roycroft: he's an attorney, specialising in employment law and labor law
07:42 PM roycroft: he's not a foreign policy expert by any means
07:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: have to look into the drama behind the Nord Stream pipeline deal
07:43 PM roycroft: just a good, pro-labor spd party member
07:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i was actually surprised that they made that deal
07:43 PM Loetmichel: CaptHindsight[m]: well, imaigne trump doing some shady deals now. its like that
07:44 PM Loetmichel: Schröder (ex-Chacellor) is now a board member of gazprom
07:44 PM Loetmichel: honi suit mal pense...
07:45 PM roycroft: i have a hard time imagining anyone being bundeskanzler who is anyting like our former president
07:45 PM roycroft: some may have engaged in some shady deals
07:45 PM roycroft: but none were so utterly moronic as our guy
07:46 PM Loetmichel: granted. was the first similarily idiotic guy that came to mind, sorry
07:46 PM Loetmichel: although more pronounced
07:47 PM Loetmichel: btw: i dont have any worries about the natural gas thing.
07:47 PM Loetmichel: but have you seen the fuel prices in germany lately?
07:47 PM CaptHindsight[m]: watching the Russian news is like watching the idiots that surround me
07:48 PM Loetmichel: <- just filled his car wit 60 liter E10 for 2.319 eur per liter :(
07:48 PM Loetmichel: and diesel is even more
07:48 PM roycroft: i fueled my vehicle a few days ago
07:48 PM roycroft: it was good timing
07:49 PM roycroft: gasoline was $4.59/gallon
07:49 PM roycroft: it went up to $4.95 the next day
07:49 PM roycroft: and now it's slowly creeping back down
07:49 PM Loetmichel: trucking companies are already complaining that that will break their financial neck soon.
07:49 PM roycroft: i should not have to refuel for another 3 weeks or so
07:49 PM Loetmichel: a gallon is how many liters again? 3,6 or something?
07:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: $4/gal, 0.95/eur/L yesterday
07:50 PM Loetmichel: lucky you ;)
07:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.vcalc.com/wiki/KurtHeckman/Euro+per+Liter+from+US+Dollar+per+Gallon
07:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.vcalc.com/wiki/pro/US+Dollar+per+Gallon+from+Euro+per+Liter
07:50 PM hazzy[m]: I paid almost $7/gallon on the west coast this week. Absolutely crazy
07:51 PM Loetmichel: hazzy[m]: still cheaper than in germany :)
07:51 PM CaptHindsight[m]: avg around here is just under $5/gal (midwest)
07:51 PM Loetmichel: <- is regretting driving a BMW lately
07:52 PM Loetmichel: especially since my sister is in rehab for her stroke and i drive ~500++km every weekend to visit her
07:52 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I get about 13mpg in my Land Cruiser (5km/L)
07:53 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but rarely ever breaks down
07:53 PM Loetmichel: the BMW does about 23mpg
07:53 PM Loetmichel: still expensive.
07:53 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah
07:54 PM Loetmichel: not to mention the liter engine oil every two weeks :)
07:54 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: expecting a full recovery?
07:55 PM Loetmichel: hopefully yes
07:55 PM Loetmichel: she is getting better already, speech is already back to "understandable"
07:56 PM CaptHindsight[m]: hazzy: how are things for you? Can you get replacement parts for machines?
07:56 PM Loetmichel: just the trigger for the stroke is still healing (leg surgery for clogged veins and dead muscle tissue removal)
07:58 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Loetmichel: good thing that your hospitals aren't clogged with Covid patients
07:59 PM Loetmichel: still tiresome to do the "double vaccinated PLUS 24h test" routine every weekend
08:03 PM roycroft: we'll probably see another spike her soon
08:03 PM roycroft: here
08:03 PM roycroft: hopefully a small one
08:03 PM roycroft: i wish masking had not become so political
08:04 PM roycroft: the sensible thing is to wear masks when there are spikes
08:04 PM roycroft: and not wear them when there's not
08:06 PM roycroft: but politics does not accomodate sensible behavior
08:09 PM hazzy[m]: CaptHindsight: things are good! Yes. We have stopped providing delivery dates or estimates for machines or parts.
08:11 PM XXCoder: 5 more hours of printing and done lol
08:11 PM XXCoder: man that thing is very complex