#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 30 2022

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:27 AM Deejay: moin
01:47 AM t4nk_freenode: heh, I applied a bit of the ink on the traces
01:47 AM t4nk_freenode: (moin Deejay )
01:48 AM t4nk_freenode: the sheet was actually torn, and ripped 3 tracks , all of em twice too
01:48 AM t4nk_freenode: but it seems to be conducting now
01:48 AM t4nk_freenode: I'll leave it to dry
01:48 AM t4nk_freenode: you'll never guess: I used some broken v-bits to smear it on :))
01:50 AM t4nk_freenode: it gets dry pretty quick, so you have to be fast
01:51 AM t4nk_freenode: and there's an extremely small amount of the stuff in a syringe
01:51 AM t4nk_freenode: but it seems to work
03:09 AM Loetmichel: CaptHindsight[m]: the fuel is of no matter. Its not like i would drive the F150 cross country every week
03:09 AM Loetmichel: fuel price i mean
03:09 AM Loetmichel: and yes, i am aware that the guzzle the stuff.
05:25 AM Tom_L: morning
06:09 AM JT-Cave: morning
08:02 AM _unreal_: this will be interesting?
08:02 AM _unreal_: just started an ISO download of 5.4gb, my phone said 3min
08:03 AM _unreal_: ..
08:03 AM _unreal_: now is jumped upto 8min
08:03 AM _unreal_: I dont believe in the @#%$@#$@#$@ 5G CRAZY SPEED bs. never seen it
08:04 AM _unreal_: ya this download is going to take 10min
08:12 AM t4nk_freenode: can't you check the download speed?
08:13 AM t4nk_freenode: and how about getting some proper internet @home?
08:13 AM t4nk_freenode: you can't keep on messing like this
08:40 AM CloudEvil: In some places, phone internet is actually the best available.
08:41 AM CloudEvil: Also, how long did it take.
08:46 AM _unreal_: 16min
08:47 AM _unreal_: I have an S21 ultra
08:47 AM _unreal_: and it says 5G-UW right now downloading a windows 10 ISO
08:47 AM _unreal_: from microsoft
09:10 AM _unreal_: finally got the file transfered
09:10 AM _unreal_: and found my DL-DVDR'S
09:11 AM _unreal_: now I have to transfer to the PC so I can burn to the dvd :/
09:11 AM _unreal_: sucks
09:11 AM _unreal_: I lost my win10 disk
09:11 AM _unreal_: I've burned like 10. its amazing how I cant find any of them
09:11 AM XXCoder: make wall framed one
09:11 AM XXCoder: that way its always visible
09:11 AM _unreal_: heh
09:12 AM _unreal_: my issue is I'm crammed in a small room
09:12 AM t4nk_freenode: CloudEvil, not in his case
09:12 AM _unreal_: when my father gets is reversal surgery and gets a JOB... I can finally escape this house.
09:12 AM _unreal_: is=his
09:13 AM t4nk_freenode: what's with the house man... I mean.. you got a house in florida, lol
09:13 AM t4nk_freenode: those pictures you sent
09:13 AM t4nk_freenode: beaches and whatnot
09:13 AM _unreal_: again... I'm in my fathers house, he had stage 4 cancer.
09:13 AM _unreal_: as of this past dec. he beat stage 4 cancer
09:13 AM _unreal_: I've been taking care of him the past 3 years
09:14 AM t4nk_freenode: oh, I thought you meant selling your house
09:14 AM _unreal_: no...
09:14 AM _unreal_: no
09:15 AM t4nk_freenode: well man, in any case, a decent internet connection can't be that expensive at all
09:15 AM t4nk_freenode: why not install some there if you're there that longf
09:15 AM _unreal_: I originally moved here after a divorce. from my POS xwife, moving from maine. My step mother wanted me to move down here very much " FRESH START " only that turned into I moved in and she divorced my father. "bait and switch"
09:15 AM _unreal_: then 5 months later he was diag. with stage 4 cancer
09:16 AM t4nk_freenode: yeah, you told the story before..
09:16 AM _unreal_: dude I'm paying for most of my fathers expensise right now
09:17 AM t4nk_freenode: I thought you said your dad was stinking rich
09:17 AM _unreal_: he is
09:17 AM t4nk_freenode: lol
09:17 AM t4nk_freenode: LET HIM PAY THEN man!!!
09:17 AM _unreal_: or wast
09:17 AM _unreal_: was
09:17 AM _unreal_: divorce his X wife got half
09:17 AM _unreal_: so I dont know what he has left
09:18 AM _unreal_: if you dont have 5mil in the bank your not going to pull 4-6k a month in interest
09:18 AM t4nk_freenode: I know for a fact that rich people don't like spending money...
09:19 AM t4nk_freenode: bah, I knew some bastards that would circle around the supermarket at closing time to get a cup of yoghurt for 10cts
09:20 AM _unreal_: ?
09:20 AM t4nk_freenode: to save pennies, while they were filthy rich
09:22 AM t4nk_freenode: euh, so I mean.. lol.. maybe he likes you paying his bills :)
09:22 AM _unreal_: he does... too much
09:22 AM enleth: t4nk_freenode: that's funny, the only thing they can't buy more of is time and they choose to waste that
09:23 AM t4nk_freenode: on the other hand... you are his son.. and.. maybe you owe him.. and such, be a good son and so.. (though I don't personally support that notion)
09:23 AM t4nk_freenode: lol enleth, that's true
09:24 AM _unreal_: I hve many siblings I'm the only one in FL
09:24 AM _unreal_: bastards
09:24 AM _unreal_: now the disk is burning
09:24 AM _unreal_: finally
09:25 AM _unreal_: geez I've been trying to put a clean win-install on this new PC since 7am
09:25 AM enleth: t4nk_freenode: that is certainly a good general purpose guideline, but there's a lot of circumstances in which it should not apply
09:26 AM t4nk_freenode: yep, I totally agree, and I will not follow it
09:26 AM _unreal_: what pissis me off is he keeps "changing" things and making it hard for me to run a business. he REALLY does not want me to leave
09:27 AM _unreal_: and the market is not halping me ether
09:27 AM _unreal_: help
09:27 AM _unreal_: god I'm down what almost $15k
09:27 AM t4nk_freenode: time for some coffee then
09:28 AM _unreal_: that is true
09:28 AM _unreal_: need to get my daughter out of bed first
09:29 AM Tom_L: smart man
09:29 AM Tom_L: keepimg you trapped !
09:32 AM _unreal_: if/when the market comes back. there is a HUGE short squeeze coming.... its un-avoidable. I'm in a number of stocks that are going to go crazy.
09:33 AM _unreal_: I could make $75k-300k soon fingers crossed
09:33 AM _unreal_: hell if they legalized weed in the USA I'd be a multi millionair with one of my stocks with in a few months
09:33 AM _unreal_: :/
09:34 AM Tom_L: really all you gotta do for that is win the lottery
09:35 AM t4nk_freenode: hehe, yeah, I plan on doing that myself Tom_L ... way better chances than the stock market
09:37 AM Tom_L: it's the merican way... gives that poor pan handler bastard on the corner a fighting chance
10:57 AM jdh: get-rich-quick is generally a good way to stay poor forever
11:05 AM snaked is now known as snaked_bruh
12:34 PM unterhausen: there is one guy that has been trying to sell a Sheldon r-series gearbox for $900
12:34 PM unterhausen: Wonder what I could sell mine for and actually find a buyer
12:36 PM unterhausen: I wish I hadn't looked at sold listings, someone sold a bucket with a pile of parts in the bottom
12:37 PM unterhausen: didn't check to see if the bucket was included
12:50 PM Bleepshop: unterhausen: Need a bucket? I could probably empty one and sell it to you... Or I could leave it full and get rid of a bucket of random crap... LOL
01:13 PM _unreal_: sweet just got my last chips to repair the opto end stop sensor board
01:43 PM Loetmichel: _unreal_: well, as long as they are still in one piece... the last chips i accidentally overvolted were just a heatsink tab and three/five legs afterwards.
01:43 PM _unreal_: and with that its done this adapter should be back to working
01:43 PM _unreal_: heh
01:43 PM _unreal_: ya the ve7it servo controller system I built I shorted one of the motor outputs to grd
01:43 PM Loetmichel: ... quite loud rapid extraction of the magic smoke, too ;)
01:44 PM _unreal_: I never got smoke, I just got WTF errors
01:46 PM Loetmichel: last time i killed some TB6560 chips they had big craters afterwards
01:47 PM _unreal_: hum...
01:54 PM _unreal_: so i'm doumb founded I thought this computer had wifi?
01:55 PM _unreal_: unless its disabled in the bios?
02:00 PM unreal: ok I have house internet back
02:01 PM _unreal_ is now known as Guest5999
02:02 PM unreal is now known as _unreal_
03:05 PM Bleepshop: Has anybody in here built a LED/laser based tool length/diameter setter?
03:08 PM Bleepshop: Something on the order of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKY_xnPWfo
03:28 PM Tom_L: looks expensive
03:44 PM roycroft: my experiments with japanning are not going well
03:45 PM roycroft: i was hoping that at least one of the formulae would at least be close to working, but it appears they're all not doing well
03:45 PM roycroft: the two with just gilsonite are watery and grainy, which is bad
03:45 PM roycroft: and the two with 1/2 gilsonite and 1/2 copal resin are thick and lumpy, which is also bad
03:46 PM roycroft: i may have to toss them all and go for round 2
03:47 PM roycroft: the good news is that there seems to be no difference between pure gum spirits from the art supply store ($17.99 for 8 oz) vs. turpentine from the home improvement store ($8.99/quart)
03:57 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: Hit Archive.org and look for the 1913 edition of "The Boy Mechanic" I'm pretty sure there's a working recipe in htere. Or at least it worked with what I could get in 1978-79. LOL
03:58 PM CloudEvil: :)
04:00 PM Bleepshop: That book is also good if you want to commit suicide by structural failure [DIY hang glider], get cancer via a DIY X-ray setup or simply scratch build a new spark coil for your Model-A. LMAO
04:03 PM roycroft: i've found many recipes
04:03 PM roycroft: most of which contradict the others
04:03 PM roycroft: i anticipated having to conduct a few rounds of experiments before i found something that works
04:03 PM Loetmichel: Bleepshop: coward. whats life without a bit of risk? (re: glider=
04:03 PM roycroft: i was hoping, though, that round 1 would not be a complete fail, which it appears it may be
04:04 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: The recipe I'm thinking of works well on brass as long as you use some acetone or CFC to clean the parts first.
04:05 PM roycroft: part of the problem is that, while gilsonite is the same as it's always been, what is sold today as turpentine and boiled linseed oil are different to what they used to be
04:05 PM roycroft: copal resin is not necessarily the same either - there are several varieties of copal resin
04:06 PM _unreal_: some very good news. I just found the DATA cable for my digital cam corder finally
04:06 PM roycroft: i'm looking for traditional japanning
04:06 PM _unreal_: been looking for that for ever
04:06 PM roycroft: such as used to be used on planes and hammer heads and small piece of machinery
04:06 PM roycroft: and very simliar to what was used on model a fords
04:07 PM roycroft: once i find a good recipe it should work on brass as well as cast iron and steel
04:07 PM roycroft: i'll check out what "the boy mechanic" has to say about it
04:07 PM roycroft: i think that resin will be necessary to get sufficient hardness
04:08 PM roycroft: some sources say that if the linseed oil is added before the gilsonite and resin are fully dissolved it will clump up as i experienced, so i may try not adding the oil at first
04:09 PM CloudEvil: Are you using linseed oil, or 'boiled' linxeed oil
04:09 PM roycroft: i may also try the next batch on stir plates, but i only have two working stir plates right now, so that means only 2 formulae at a time, not four
04:09 PM roycroft: i'm using 'boiled'
04:09 PM CloudEvil: Comestible linseed oil has not changed.
04:09 PM roycroft: which is what is called for
04:09 PM roycroft: but again, that has changed
04:09 PM roycroft: it used to actually be boiled
04:09 PM roycroft: now it has heavy metal dryers in it
04:09 PM Bleepshop: Loetmichel: Take a look at page 4 and tell me that's just a 'bit' of risk. https://archive.org/details/theboymechanicvolume1700thingsforunknown/page/n3/mode/2up?q=glider
04:10 PM roycroft: and that is a big part of the problem when trying to reproduce traditional finishes
04:10 PM roycroft: tradtional ingredients are often no longer available
04:10 PM CloudEvil: At least with BLO, you can probably find the process and go from linseed oil
04:10 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: Take a hot pate and linseed oil and boil it for a few hours to reduce it.
04:10 PM Loetmichel: Bleepshop: looks doable
04:11 PM Loetmichel: i dont see the problem?
04:11 PM roycroft: um, yeah
04:11 PM roycroft: shall i do it in your kitchen?
04:12 PM Loetmichel: its a bit unfair though, i am a model plane builder/pilot. I KNOW how to work with cloth and light woods ;)
04:13 PM Bleepshop: Loetmichel: 1978, East Texas, flat as an ironing board, nothing available for straight-grained structural materials than bambo or 6061-T6 at megabucks. I was a terror with a bamboo and rice paper Chinese fighting kite though. LOL
04:14 PM Tom_L: my friend's dad rebuilt stearman
04:14 PM Tom_L: wood/cloth wings etc
04:14 PM roycroft: bamboo and rice paper?
04:14 PM roycroft: did you print all those "extra" ballots for arizona last election?
04:16 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: No, I've been busy printing "Tired of voting for the lesser of two evils? Cthulu in 2022" bumper stickers.
04:17 PM roycroft: that must be quite the job
04:17 PM roycroft: demand would be extremely high, i should imagine
04:18 PM Loetmichel: hehe, recently read a scifi story about one of the old gods returning and getting shoed into a "world presidency" against his will
04:18 PM roycroft: dr johnny fever has left the building :(
04:18 PM Loetmichel: laughed my ass off
04:19 PM Loetmichel: @ Bleepshop
04:19 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: I plastered UNM with posters of the same slogan in 1992, several of the local FBI office had a good giggle about them after clocking out.
04:20 PM hazzy[m]: Bleepshop: lol
04:23 PM roycroft: i have always said that the great paradox of our presidency is that anyone who would be a good president is too smart to accept the job
04:24 PM Loetmichel: roycroft: thats generally true for democracys
04:31 PM Bleepshop: Politics and septic tanks have a lot in common. There's the visible turds and then there's the lurkers. LOL
04:34 PM Loetmichel: Bleepshop: kinda true
04:34 PM Loetmichel: i would say the density of both is higher in politics though
04:37 PM roguish[m]: most politicians are attorneys, because that's the only thing they can sink down to.....
04:38 PM Bleepshop: Pop Quiz: What do you throw a drowning lawyer?
04:38 PM Bleepshop: Answer: A toater with enough extension cord. ;D
04:39 PM roguish[m]: a lump of coal.............
04:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: What do you call 1,000 lawyers chained to a giant rock at the bottom of the ocean? (old joke)
04:41 PM Bleepshop: Nope, although I would have also accepted 'A running M-804 460v/15KW genset.'
04:41 PM Bleepshop: CaptHindsight[m]: A good start! LOL
04:45 PM roguish[m]: capt_hindsight[m]: well, what ???
04:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ^^
05:10 PM roycroft: there is nothing in the 1913 edition of "the boy mechanic" on japanning
05:11 PM roycroft: there are some other interesting articles, though, some of much might not make it into an edition today
05:11 PM roycroft: such as how to build a home forge
05:11 PM roycroft: or an article on the effects of radium on coloring objects
05:12 PM roycroft: or the advice to be sure to remove all lard oil from a lathe bed at the end of the day to protect the lathe
05:16 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: A lot of the 'old' terms for processes are blocked as politicly incorrect. Try Page 81.
05:18 PM Bleepshop: Blacking and japaning were instant returns of 0 results. Coating found it after a 15 sec search.
05:18 PM roycroft: page 81 is an article on making a brass bookmark
05:20 PM roycroft: there are several old books on japanning, but unfortunately that term was used for any glossy lacquer-like finish, including for wood and ceramics
05:21 PM roycroft: the process for metals that used gilsonite (an asphalt product) and heat treatment is what i need specifically
05:21 PM roycroft: but i've gathered a number of articles about it
05:21 PM roycroft: it's a matter of my testing on my own now
05:22 PM roycroft: everything i've found so far i've found on the internet
05:22 PM roycroft: and all of it is as reliable as the internet
05:23 PM roycroft: i can easily understand why politicians like the internet so much
05:24 PM roycroft: it's a place where everything you read can be completely trusted, and when you read two things that contradict each other, you can believe both of them
05:24 PM roycroft: as well, everything you read on the internet can be completely debunked
05:25 PM roycroft: the only way to be sure is to test and reasearch for one's self
05:26 PM roycroft: and that's way too much work, and not nearly as much fun as making something up and then looking on the internet for validation of what you believe
05:27 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: Oh crap! Sorry man. That was the green for a Kodak folding camera restoration.
05:28 PM roycroft: it's ok
05:28 PM roycroft: i hadn't thumbed through that book in a long time
05:29 PM roycroft: it was fun reading a few of the articles
05:29 PM roycroft: and i did not have any expectation of finding anything really useful anyway
05:30 PM roycroft: i think i'll do an experiment with the resin, and not adding the oil until after the resin and gilsonite are fully dissolved
05:30 PM _unreal_: so I'm working on moving stuff around in this room
05:30 PM roycroft: some reports are that the resin reacts with the oil to cause the clumping
05:30 PM _unreal_: so I can bring that machine I was buidling before home
05:30 PM Bleepshop: The only one I can remember from the Kodak retores was lamp black mixed with shellac and Everclear. Went through an airbrush like nothing and gave a deep black.
05:30 PM roycroft: yeah, that's not going to do it
05:31 PM roycroft: what i'm trying to do needs the gilsonite
05:31 PM roycroft: it's a somewhat thick coating
05:31 PM roycroft: it actually goes on thin, but several coats are built up, then it's baked
05:31 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: What? You dont want to spend a day watching a kerosene lamp burn to collect the lamp black off the shade? LOL
05:32 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: Slacker! LMAO
05:32 PM roycroft: and almost every report says that gilsonite alone does not get hard enough
05:32 PM roycroft: the effort involved is irrelevant
05:32 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: You
05:32 PM roycroft: lamp black will not give the proper result
05:33 PM roycroft: i do think i want to use a stir plate for the next round as well
05:33 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: You want to put a black coat on machine parts?
05:33 PM roycroft: yes
05:33 PM roycroft: but i want it to be authentic japanning
05:33 PM roycroft: not some random black coating
05:33 PM Bleepshop: Check out gun blueing/blacking recipes as well.
05:33 PM roycroft: no
05:33 PM roycroft: i have been blueing for years
05:33 PM roycroft: and i'll continue to do that for some parts
05:34 PM roycroft: but that's not even remotely what i want for this
05:35 PM roycroft: even the formulae without resin had a thick lump of gilsonite on the bottom of the jars and a very thin liquid above
05:35 PM roycroft: it was not clumpy, though, and i could stir it in
05:35 PM Bleepshop: roycroft: are you heating them?
05:35 PM roycroft: no
05:35 PM roycroft: and that may be something i shall try
05:35 PM roycroft: but my stir plates are not heated
05:35 PM roycroft: so i'd have to get heated stir plates for that
05:36 PM * JT-Shop wonders how he will cut a 22.5 miter on a 1/8" x 1 1/8 strip of black walnut
05:36 PM roycroft: folks say that heating the resin while trying to dissolve it just makes it clump worse
05:36 PM Bleepshop: I'd try heat and stir. A lot of the old books assumed that you had learned some procedures as givens.
05:36 PM roycroft: jt-shop: make a jig for it or glue it to something bigger
05:36 PM roycroft: you can use the making tape and superglue trick
05:36 PM JT-Shop: ok, processing
05:37 PM roycroft: put masking tape on the part and on the holder
05:37 PM roycroft: superglue the masking tape pieces together
05:37 PM roycroft: cut
05:37 PM roycroft: peel the part off the making tape
05:37 PM JT-Shop: I need to make 8 parts 2 9/16" long
05:38 PM JT-Shop: I have double stick carpet tape
05:38 PM roycroft: you could try that too
05:38 PM Bleepshop: JT-Shop: Make one part 32" long and chop shorter ones off of it.
05:39 PM roycroft: i just realised that i have not power tested my vfd and spindle since they arrived in december
05:39 PM roycroft: i think i'll go do that now, so if either are dead, i can get it replaced under warranty
05:39 PM JT-Shop: Bleepshop, I'm using up tiny bits of black walnut that I have
05:40 PM JT-Shop: actually I need to make 16 parts the same because both of my sisters want a JT bowl lol
05:41 PM JT-Shop: I'm thinking some kind of jig so all the parts are the exact same lenght
05:42 PM JT-Shop: length even
05:44 PM Bleepshop: JT-Shop: Fine. Be a masochist and do it the hard way. ;D
05:57 PM roycroft: i think "the hard way" would be the standard suggestion from this channel - "just build a cnc router and cut the parts out on that"
06:15 PM JT-Cave: I don't think a router is the answer to this problem... control and precise seems to come to my mind
06:16 PM JT-Cave: I did get the long edges parallel on the drum sander so that's a start
06:16 PM Tom_L: you can't jig it and sand the angle?
06:17 PM JT-Cave: and I'm using some black walnut from a piece with a big knot in the center
06:17 PM JT-Cave: hmm, that's a thought
06:17 PM Tom_L: seems pretty easy on a small piece
06:17 PM JT-Cave: I was thinking a jig with my osborne miter guage to cut them
06:17 PM Tom_L: might save a finger too
06:18 PM * JT-Cave need all of them
06:18 PM JT-Cave: looking like my chicken door python is bullet proof now so time to put it to the test
06:19 PM JT-Cave: wow 48 hours above freezing starting tomorrow
06:20 PM JT-Cave: I have a 9" sander but no miter gauge for it...
06:20 PM Tom_L: yeah i heard something about that
06:21 PM Tom_L: be inventive :)
06:21 PM JT-Cave: then the crap hits the fan for wintry mix lol
06:21 PM JT-Cave: I always am inventive
06:21 PM Tom_L: yeah i heard something about 3"
06:21 PM JT-Cave: I don't think we will get much just enough to mess up your day
06:25 PM JT-Cave: time to call it a day see you in the morning
06:26 PM Tom_L: yup
07:58 PM roycroft: well my spindle goes round and round
07:59 PM roycroft: and i saw not even a tiny hint of blue smoke - i'm confident that it was completely contained
07:59 PM XXCoder: yay
08:01 PM roycroft: yes, it is always good when no blue smoke can be detected
08:01 PM enleth: roycroft: have you seen this? https://youtu.be/SBqgpdBNrt8
08:02 PM enleth: roycroft: the guy did some legitimate research and testing to be authentic
08:02 PM enleth: he mentioned where he got the weird ingredients, too
08:03 PM roycroft: yes, i've seen that one
08:03 PM roycroft: thanks, though
08:03 PM XXCoder: I like that channel
08:03 PM roycroft: i find it less irritating than most :)
08:05 PM roycroft: and i realize that powder coating has completely supplanted japanning, and in many ways is a superior finish to japanning
08:05 PM roycroft: but it doesn't have the same look as japanning
08:05 PM XXCoder: yeah. though japanning is pretty interesting
08:06 PM roycroft: i have proper gilsoninte
08:06 PM roycroft: which i understand is only produced in one place in the usa now - a mine in northestern utah, near the colorado border
08:09 PM XXCoder: roycroft: one of reasons I love his channel is he dont turn suff into glossy useless stuff
08:09 PM roycroft: yes, he is fairly sensible
08:09 PM enleth: if it weren't so time consuming and labor-intensive to use, japanning would probably still see some use, the finished coating can be extremely tough
08:10 PM enleth: still, for high end restoration, it's the way to go
08:11 PM XXCoder: yeah. dont replace japanning with paint or powder coat
08:11 PM XXCoder: (if restoring a tool)
08:11 PM roycroft: i want to restore some old hand planes, and that is the impetus for the japanning project
08:12 PM roycroft: but it's a finish that i really like, and would like to use on other parts
08:12 PM roycroft: not necessarily old ones
08:12 PM roycroft: btw, i did not make a mess when i mixed up mine
08:12 PM roycroft: nor did i taste the gilsonite
08:12 PM roycroft: perhaps that's why mine has not worked out so far
08:31 PM _unreal_: fricken burr
08:33 PM XXCoder: roy you'll learn no problem lol
08:37 PM roycroft: yeah, i'll figure it out
08:37 PM roycroft: it may take a few iterations, but i'll get it
08:38 PM roycroft: of course, getting the right formula and mixing procedure is just the first part
08:38 PM roycroft: once i get that sorted i have to figure out the baking schedule
11:39 PM Bleepshop: Has anybody thought of using a fixed focus camera and a servo with a line laser mounted on the Z to automagicly configure tool height/diameter/profile?
11:40 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah
11:42 PM Bleepshop: CaptHindsight[m]: Did it work? LOL
11:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://i.imgur.com/IC9g4M6.jpg
11:43 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://i.imgur.com/IFdlrj3.jpg
11:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://i.imgur.com/QU0ka4r.jpg
11:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://i.imgur.com/ljz9qCf.jpg
11:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: find edges, corners, measure gaps, diameters etc etc
11:48 PM Bleepshop: That shows finding the part. What about the tool? I'm looking at something like this only using a camera instead of a simple photodetector. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKY_xnPWfo
11:52 PM Bleepshop: I'm holding a Creative VF-0250 and it's a tiny freaking USB webcam and I've got some others that are 6MM x 6MM x 4MM with a part # I'd need to find my loupe to read.
11:52 PM CaptHindsight[m]: same stuff
11:54 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it's easy enough to use openCV for the measurements and then feedback measurments to LCNC for tools, offsets, home etc etc