#linuxcnc Logs
Dec 14 2021
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:56 AM solarwind: Aaahh diethyl ether
01:04 AM solarwind: Reminds me of the good old days where we used to knock each other out as kids when the engine starting fluid went on sale every winter
01:04 AM * roycroft was referring to the quintessence, but sure
02:00 AM Deejay: moin
04:01 AM Centurion_Dan1 is now known as Centurion_Dan
04:01 AM lag- is now known as lag
04:09 AM Tom_L: morning
04:10 AM Vq: g'day
05:10 AM JT-Cave: morning
08:42 AM aaroncnc: awesome a power surge just took out 2 of my pc monitors in my house what a way to start my morning.......
09:03 AM t4nk_freenode: as in; they are now and forever broken?
09:14 AM aaroncnc: t4nk_freenode, They wont turn on and they have internal an internal psu. But i have several of the same model so i am going to take a good on apart and swap the PSU if they work i will see if i cant find the broken component in the psu and repair it.
09:16 AM t4nk_freenode: hopefully it will just be the fuses
09:27 AM t4nk_freenode: still it's kind of hefty though
09:49 AM roycroft: it's all frosty outside, but no snow overnight
10:44 AM CloudEvil: aaroncnc: Sometimes not bothering, and just replacing the power supplies with stock ones is easier.
10:44 AM CloudEvil: Oops - that was cropped, and missed you said that
10:44 AM roycroft: the mystery parcel never showed up - it's been rescheduled for wednesday
10:46 AM CloudEvil: My parcels for today have arrived.
10:46 AM CloudEvil: I still have to move them.
10:46 AM CloudEvil: 45*170*3600mm*20
10:48 AM aaroncnc: CloudEvil, yea but if it just blew a few caps or a simple ic the cost to replace is low vs trying to find a entire replacement psu for a 8yr old monitor. If it was just a power brick i would just get a new one.
10:48 AM CloudEvil: By replacement PSU, I mean several stock power-bricks
10:49 AM aaroncnc: i would need one for each logic level then another to drive the backlight at 200V or so
10:49 AM CloudEvil: yes.
10:49 AM CloudEvil: Though partially fixing may also be an option.
10:51 AM aaroncnc: This is why i am only buying monitors that have 12v power input. i just bring a line out from my PC into the monitor and i have 1 less plug and everything is behind a quality PSU. not some junky block that gets to hot.
10:51 AM aaroncnc: but this one is an old monitor so it uses ac input.
11:25 AM unterhausen: I have most of my small parts in organizers, but the organizers aren't organized
11:50 AM roycroft: hardware organizers are my next shop project
12:49 PM * JT-MachineShop finally got the homelink button to work
12:50 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
12:51 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, http://linuxcnc.org/community/
12:52 PM Tom_L: ty
12:53 PM JT-Shop: yw
12:53 PM Tom_L: what's homelink do for you?
12:55 PM Tom_L: is that like x-10?
12:56 PM solarwind: So in the context of aluminum brazing - have to of course clean the oxide layer off
12:56 PM solarwind: But how long does it take for that oxide layer to form in standard atmosphere after it's been cleaned?
12:56 PM Tom_L: imediately
12:56 PM Tom_L: flux
12:57 PM solarwind: Yeah that makes sense.
12:57 PM solarwind: The Blue Demon triple play brazing rods are an aluminum/zinc alloy similar to zamak and they work well
12:57 PM solarwind: Not sure how they work, especially since you have to heat the aluminum up to like 450ºC which speeds up oxidation
12:58 PM solarwind: But I'll get some aluminum flux nonetheless. Flux is love. Flux is life.
12:59 PM solarwind: I think my next project will be a vacuum brazing rig
01:00 PM solarwind: Or even induction brazing in an argon bath
01:04 PM JT-Shop: the buttons on the bottom of the rearview mirror that open gates or garage doors
01:05 PM Tom_L: honda?
01:06 PM JT-Shop: aye
01:06 PM JT-Shop: a lot of cars and trucks have homelink
01:06 PM JT-Shop: https://homelink.com/
01:07 PM Tom_L: never even bothered to look on hers
01:07 PM JT-Shop: https://homelink.com/honda
01:07 PM Tom_L: she did get a self dimming rear mirror though
01:07 PM JT-Shop: me too
01:07 PM JT-Shop: which car does she have
01:08 PM Tom_L: they're nice for road trips
01:08 PM Tom_L: 20 civic
01:08 PM JT-Shop: they don't show civic
01:08 PM Tom_L: i'm sure they would have told us about it
01:09 PM JT-Shop: yup
01:09 PM Tom_L: although the mirror is aftermarket they put on
01:09 PM Tom_L: i seldom drive it so i might go check
01:10 PM Tom_L: only buttons i noticed on it were to turn the dimmer on
01:13 PM Tom_L: i doubt it would work anyway, her side has an older opener
01:42 PM JT-Shop: my opener is pretty old genie
01:46 PM roycroft: jt-shop: are you still happy with your epson label maker?
01:50 PM JT-Shop: aye, used it the other day rewiring the copy lathe
01:50 PM roycroft: i have discovered a major issue with mine
01:51 PM JT-Shop: need to get some more shrink tubing slightly bigger for cables, my kroy supplies are only bigger shrink tubing now
01:51 PM roycroft: it is so easy to use and works so well that i find myself making labels for things i would otherwise not bother labeling
01:52 PM JT-Shop: are you making any peel and stick labels with the epson?
01:52 PM roycroft: not really
01:52 PM roycroft: i got some black on matte silver peel and stick tape
01:52 PM roycroft: i'm using that to print serial numbers and bar codes for some equipment that i'm selling
01:52 PM roycroft: other than that, i'm still using my p-touch labelers
01:53 PM roycroft: i have dozens of tape cartridges for them
01:53 PM roycroft: and until i start using that up it doesn't make sense to me to replicate those supplies for the epson, for the most part
01:54 PM JT-Shop: aye I have plenty of peel and stick cartridges for my two p-touch and the kroy
01:54 PM roycroft: i'm going to have to label a patch panel soon, though, and the epson patch panel wizard will make that way easier than on a p-touch, so i'll use peel and stick for that
02:01 PM * JT-Shop feels like putzing around the rest of the afternoon...
02:31 PM unterhausen: is there an affordable brother printer that will use heat shrink? My dymo printer was $30. I don't expect anything like that, but hopefully not too much more
02:39 PM roycroft: no brother printer can affordably print on shrink tubing
02:40 PM roycroft: shrink tubing is expensive, and all brother printers leave a long waste leader at the beginning of every print
02:40 PM aaroncnc: on some printers you can re roll them with the heatshrink tubing and they work
02:41 PM JT-Shop: well crap they are flying the mold from China instead of putting it on a ship so now we are on the fast track to build the assembly machine
02:41 PM roycroft: one of the primary reasons i purchased the epson is that it has a "rewind" feature, where it backs the label up after cutting, allowing for a lead margin of 2mm
02:41 PM aaroncnc: i should note you must use the heatshrink that is used in other printers. not just any heatshrink.
02:41 PM roycroft: that feature should result in at least a 50% savings in shrink tubing cost
02:42 PM roycroft: the printer costs nothing compared to the cost of consumables
02:42 PM roycroft: if i'm printing on shrink tubing to label a wire, i'll typically be printing 1 or 2 characters
02:43 PM roycroft: with a brother i'd be wasting a good 70% of the tubing doing that
02:43 PM roycroft: with my epson it's virtually nil on waste
02:43 PM aaroncnc: i think we had this conversation before...
02:43 PM roycroft: we have
02:43 PM roycroft: but it hasn't sunk in with everyone, apparently
02:44 PM roycroft: and since i like saving money, i figure others like doing so as well
02:44 PM aaroncnc: im still to cheap to pay the cost for the printer. ill stick with my label printer and clear tape or uv set nail polish.
02:46 PM roycroft: the cost of the printer vs. the cost of consumables does not change, no matter who you are
02:47 PM roycroft: the value of your time and the value of the professionalism of the results does, however
02:47 PM aaroncnc: you can buy lower quality labels in bulk and the tape or uv clear nail polish make up for the fact they dont like to stick very well.
02:48 PM roycroft: i'll point out that the epson printers will print on peel and stick tape, so they can replicate everything a p-touch printer does
02:48 PM roycroft: one option may be to sell the brother and its supplies and get an epson as a replacement
02:48 PM roycroft: you won't recoup your entire investment in the p-touch labeler, of course, but that may shift the balance sheet enough that it makes sense to get the epson
02:49 PM roycroft: that said, i lived without a shrink tube label printer for decades before i recently got this one
02:49 PM roycroft: and i've labeled thousands of wires/cables in that time
02:50 PM roycroft: i have had a panduit label printer that does wrap-around labels, and have had that for most of the time i've been labeling cable plants/control panels/etc.
02:50 PM roycroft: but i've also done my share of labeling cables with a p-touch printer with a clear shrink tube overlay
02:50 PM roycroft: and that looks fine
02:51 PM roycroft: but it takes about 3x as long as just printing on shrink tubing in the first place
02:58 PM unterhausen: I recall the backup feature, but not that what make and model printer it was
03:01 PM unterhausen: will the $60 labelworks printer work on heatshrink?
03:02 PM unterhausen: okay, it says it will but it doesn't say if it has the roycroft approved backup feature
03:09 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I'm waiting for the LCNC controlled hack-a-day version label printer
03:10 PM CaptHindsight[m]: or even a teensy 4.x controller swap version
03:14 PM roycroft: if you're talking about the one that connects to a pc via usb, i think it has the same features as the portable models
03:14 PM roycroft: if you're not sure and can't sort it out yourself, ring them up
03:15 PM roycroft: they're nice folks to talk to, if you can tolerate that wisconsin dialect
03:20 PM roycroft: if you're looking at the lw-px300, the minimum lead is 10mm, so no
03:20 PM roycroft: it does not have the rewind feature
03:24 PM roycroft: that printer also has a manual cutter, so you won't be able to do half-cuts like the lw-px700
03:24 PM roycroft: which is a very useful feature
03:24 PM roycroft: especially if you can't rewind the label after cutting
03:24 PM * JT-Shop really loves the half cuts!
03:49 PM roycroft: it's an awesome feature
04:03 PM roycroft: it is time for a memory upgrade on my imac
04:03 PM roycroft: solidworks just ran out of memory, and i can't afford to give any more to the vm that runs it as is
04:04 PM roycroft: fortunately i have the memory here on my desk - i've just been avoiding shutting down and installing it
04:04 PM roycroft: the days of avoidance are over, being overcome by the day of necessity
04:47 PM * roycroft is back, chock full of fresh, unused memory
04:47 PM roycroft: were that upgrading my brain's memory were so easy
04:50 PM unterhausen: is the lw-px700 approximately the size of my forearm?
04:51 PM Tom_L: depends how long your arm is
04:52 PM unterhausen: the word "approximately" is supposed to cover that part
04:52 PM Tom_L: 15.5 x 11.5 x 5 inches
04:52 PM Tom_L: google knows everything
04:52 PM Tom_L: just ask
04:53 PM unterhausen: $115 isn't too bad, but how much does the power supply cost? Do I really have to buy the kit for another $100
04:54 PM unterhausen: I like their example label, "cable, do not connect" That's like "swimming pool, do not swim"
04:55 PM Tom_L: that seems rather large for a handheld device
04:57 PM JT-Shop: 11.5x5.5x3.25
04:58 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, that sounds like the box size
05:01 PM roycroft: you can usually find a 20% off coupon
05:01 PM roycroft: i paid <$100 for mine
05:01 PM roycroft: i ordered the bare-bones machine, but they sent me the full package, including power supply, battery, case, wall mount magnets, etc.
05:03 PM * JT-Shop listens to Steve Riley and the Mamou Playboys
05:04 PM roycroft: if you order labels when you order the printer the 20% applies on those as well
05:05 PM unterhausen: roycroft, did you order direct from epson
05:05 PM XXCoder: roycroft: nice
05:05 PM roycroft: yes
05:05 PM roycroft: so did jt
05:05 PM roycroft: and he got the 20% off deal as well, i think
05:05 PM roycroft: they really want you to buy their machine
05:06 PM roycroft: that way you will buy their labels
05:06 PM unterhausen: yeah, that's not too bad. I hate to mislead anyone into thinking I'm professional though
05:06 PM roycroft: well you like professional looking labels, don't you?
05:06 PM roycroft: so you have a professional attitude, at least
05:06 PM unterhausen: I like labels I can read, which eliminates any that I have to write
05:06 PM roycroft: that is 20% of being a professional
05:07 PM roycroft: so the 20% discount is apt
05:07 PM roycroft: i'd have paid list price for the thing, if i'm honest
05:07 PM unterhausen: 20% off, because you're 80% piker sounds about right
05:07 PM roycroft: i think i paid $400 for my panduit wrap-around label printer
05:07 PM roycroft: and the epson is a much better printer
05:08 PM roycroft: it's not good for wrap-around labels for large diameter cables, though
05:08 PM roycroft: but i have at least a lifetime supply of large labels for the panduit
05:09 PM roycroft: and since i hardly use it any more it will probably last the rest of my life
05:09 PM unterhausen: I imagine anything panduit sells it quite expensive
05:09 PM unterhausen: ^is
05:09 PM roycroft: it is, but it's often worth it
05:10 PM unterhausen: the surplus store I used to shop at always had a lot of panduit
05:10 PM * Tom_L goes for a steak dinner... youngest is 21 today
05:10 PM roycroft: when you bill your time out at $100+/hour, you actually save your customers money by purchasing panduit components, as most of them are much more efficient to install than other brands
05:11 PM JT-Shop: awesome
05:12 PM roycroft: if you're making control panels and the like, jt-shop, you should really look at the epson black on matte silver labels - they look really great for tagging gear with id/serial number info
05:13 PM unterhausen: I should have thought about that, but they never seemed to care for me making schematics
05:15 PM JT-Shop: thanks
05:16 PM * roycroft gives solidworks another go, finally being able to increase the mount of memory for the virtual machine
05:46 PM * JT-Shop punches out and wanders inside
06:00 PM bobbytab1es is now known as bobbytables
06:16 PM roycroft: ooh, the mystery parcel has arrived
06:17 PM * roycroft heads out to the mailbox to see what it is
06:19 PM roycroft: well, it seems my spindle mount has returned from holidays in the south of england
06:20 PM roycroft: that's actually the best mystery parcel that i could get right now
06:21 PM roycroft: and the tracking system still shows it in bristol
06:22 PM XXCoder: lol
06:23 PM roycroft: this thing is going to be interesting to mount
06:23 PM roycroft: it's cast, without any machined surfaces at all
06:24 PM roycroft: the only machining was to cut the slot for compressing it, and drilling/tapping the bolt holes
06:24 PM XXCoder: fun
06:24 PM XXCoder: I probably would machine the mating surface
06:24 PM XXCoder: besides that probably not worth a worry?
06:25 PM roycroft: i am going to have to surface parts of it
06:25 PM roycroft: the fun part is going to be making the back of the mount parallel to the spindle bore
06:25 PM roycroft: i'm going to have to ponder for a bit how i'm going to do that
06:26 PM XXCoder: well you can always use spindle
06:26 PM XXCoder: measure spindle top on both sides till equal
06:27 PM roycroft: https://www.ebay.com/itm/313762458529
06:27 PM roycroft: that is what i got
06:27 PM XXCoder: yeah more or less what I pictured
06:28 PM roycroft: i need to both make the back flat and parallel to the bore, and i need to bore some mounting holes in the flanges on the sides
06:28 PM roycroft: and they have to be really accurate
06:28 PM roycroft: maybe
06:28 PM roycroft: maybe they just have to be close
06:28 PM XXCoder: closer the better, or you have perment "nod"
06:28 PM roycroft: i'm still figuring out how i'm going to be able to tram the spindle
06:28 PM XXCoder: side to side is far more fixable than nod
06:29 PM roycroft: i'm thinking i'll mount the spindle mount on a bigger backing plate
06:29 PM roycroft: and mount that plate to the z axis
06:29 PM XXCoder: thats typical yeah
06:29 PM roycroft: with the ability to adjust the backing plate in both x and y
06:29 PM XXCoder: can mount air or coolant hoses to same plate
06:29 PM XXCoder: vacuum too
06:29 PM roycroft: yes
06:30 PM roycroft: and i saw a video the other day of a dust shoe that adjusts independently to the spindle
06:30 PM roycroft: that might be a nice thing to add, and i would need to mount the rails for that on the backing plate as well
06:30 PM XXCoder: best use spindle, put it in holder, then measure sides of spindle so you know spindle wont be "nodded"
06:30 PM roycroft: anyway, now i at least have the thing and can measure it
06:30 PM XXCoder: indeed
06:31 PM roycroft: and i just added memory to my imac, so i can run solidworks with more ram
06:31 PM roycroft: which i'll definitely need to do once i start making an assembly out of the router components
06:32 PM XXCoder: indeed
06:32 PM roycroft: and i do have a dead spindle i can use for now
06:32 PM XXCoder: how much gb ram
06:32 PM roycroft: indicating off the spindle might not be a bad idea
06:32 PM roycroft: my imac has 32GB now
06:33 PM roycroft: i upped the cad virtual machine from 4GB to 8GB
06:33 PM XXCoder: unless you have same size rod, because wider the measure spots is, the more close you can adjust it to
06:33 PM roycroft: and i could probably push it to 12GB if necessary
06:33 PM roycroft: i don't have any 80mm rod
06:33 PM roycroft: but i don't need it to be perfect
06:33 PM roycroft: i just need it to be close
06:34 PM roycroft: to quote jeremy schmidt again, if you can't make it perfect, make it adjustable
06:34 PM roycroft: i know i can't make it perfect
06:34 PM roycroft: so i'll make it close and adjustable
06:34 PM XXCoder: indeed
06:35 PM XXCoder: can always shim it
06:35 PM XXCoder: if close, you wont need much shim
06:35 PM roycroft: front to back i'll use shims at the top or bottom
06:35 PM roycroft: side to side i'm not sure what i'll do yet
06:35 PM roycroft: i have an idea that i think will work well
06:36 PM XXCoder: side to side is pretty easy I think, just use soft hammer
06:36 PM roycroft: a close tolerance hole in the upper left, and a shoulder bolt with zero clearance there as a pivot point
06:36 PM XXCoder: lightly tighten adjust till its nicely 90 degree, tighten it fully, then check again
06:36 PM roycroft: an oversize hole in the lower right, and a cam bolt that i can install there and make tiny adjustments
06:37 PM XXCoder: nice
06:37 PM roycroft: and slightly oversize holes in the upper right and lower left that i can torque down on when i get it adjusted
06:37 PM roycroft: keep the latter two lose
06:37 PM roycroft: the shoulder bolt snug but not tight
06:37 PM roycroft: and then i can tram away and make tiny adjustments by turning the cam
06:37 PM roycroft: then lock it all down when it's dialed in
06:38 PM roycroft: that's what i'm thinking right now
06:38 PM roycroft: hopefully i'll think of something simpler before i build it
06:39 PM roycroft: i'd rather avoid tapping it into tram with a hammer - that can be too fiddly
06:39 PM XXCoder: yeah
06:41 PM roycroft: before i do anything i should see if a spindle actually fits in this thing
06:41 PM XXCoder: smart move
06:43 PM roycroft: if i'm lucky it won't quite fit
06:43 PM roycroft: because then i could bore it out to fit, and the bore would be parallel to the back
06:43 PM XXCoder: if it doesnt, you might be able to "ream" it out by 80mm pip[e with abrastives
06:44 PM roycroft: hmm
06:44 PM roycroft: it does fit, but i have to open it up quite a bit to slide it in
06:45 PM roycroft: i think i have plenty of room to align bore it
06:45 PM roycroft: i have a boring head for my mill
06:45 PM roycroft: i can flatten the back, reference off of that in the mill vise, and bore it out parallel to the back
06:46 PM roycroft: the gap when the spindle is clamped down is at least 60 thousandths
06:46 PM roycroft: so there's plenty of room to do a little boring
06:47 PM roycroft: it's more like 0.100"
06:47 PM XXCoder: not bad
06:48 PM roycroft: yeah, that makes machining a lot easier
06:48 PM roycroft: i don't have to try to make the back side parallel to the bore
06:48 PM roycroft: which would be hard
06:48 PM roycroft: but making the bore parallel to the back side will be easy
06:48 PM XXCoder: yeah carefulk not too big
06:49 PM XXCoder: ideally it still is tiny bit too small for spindle
06:49 PM XXCoder: hold better I think
06:49 PM roycroft: i'm sure i can get the back parallel to the current bore within 0.010" or less
06:49 PM roycroft: and that's what i'll do first - make the back as parallel to the spindle as possible
06:50 PM roycroft: then i should only have to open the bore by a few thousandths
06:50 PM roycroft: certainly way less than 0.100"
07:24 PM Tom_L: indicate off the slot
07:24 PM Tom_L: then guess on the rest :)
07:24 PM Tom_L: bottom edge of the slot
07:25 PM XXCoder: probably use washers or something to hold gap rigid while boring
07:25 PM XXCoder: (with bolts)
07:34 PM Tom_L: they didn't machine it then tumble or blast it did they?
08:23 PM roycroft: actually, i can hold it quite while boring
08:24 PM roycroft: there are three bolt holes for adjusting the opening
08:24 PM roycroft: the outer two are through holes at the top and threaded into the base, for tightening it down
08:24 PM XXCoder: interesting
08:24 PM roycroft: the center one just goes through the top, and is threaded
08:24 PM roycroft: so that bolt spreads it open
08:25 PM roycroft: i can use the adjusters to set it to any size i want for boring
08:25 PM roycroft: and it will be very rigid
08:25 PM Tom_L: better to use shims so it's even top to bottom
08:25 PM roycroft: especially considering i'm just going to take a couple light passes
08:25 PM Tom_L: and not thin at the adjuster screw
08:25 PM roycroft: yes, that would be good
08:26 PM roycroft: i do want to keep it as even as possible
08:26 PM roycroft: i'm not too worried about the spindle slipping though - there's plenty of surface area to clamp down on
08:27 PM Tom_L: i could have done better on my mill but it was #1 after all
08:27 PM roycroft: as with all things from china, this bracket i consider a kit :)
08:27 PM Tom_L: and i'm not planning to do another one
08:28 PM roycroft: i'm just glad the bloody thing finally arrived
08:30 PM roycroft: and my new spindle is sitting at sfo right now
08:30 PM roycroft: i'm not in any hurry to get that though
08:30 PM roycroft: but it's nice to know it's made it across the pacific
08:59 PM firephot- is now known as firephoto_
09:47 PM Guest35 is now known as guyoucaiwang
10:19 PM roycroft: hmm, the forecast has just been updated
10:19 PM roycroft: the low tonight is 1 degree, and the chance of snow nil for the valley floor
10:19 PM roycroft: just a lot of rain, which is our lot this time of year
10:19 PM Tom_L: close to 70F here tomorrow with a high wind advisory
10:20 PM Tom_L: 10% chance of rain
10:20 PM roycroft: our high tomorrow should be 6
10:20 PM roycroft: with 15mm of rain
10:20 PM Tom_L: someone indicated 60mph gusts
10:20 PM roycroft: i'm dreaming of a wet christmas, just like the ones we always have ...
10:21 PM Tom_L: it's a crap shoot here
10:21 PM Tom_L: no tellin what we'll get
10:21 PM roycroft: i cannot remember the last time we had a white christmas
10:21 PM roycroft: when i lived in chicago it was almost every year
10:22 PM roycroft: i'm trying to remember if we've ever had one since i moved to eugene, and i can't think of one
10:22 PM roycroft: and i've been here for close to 30 years now
10:22 PM roycroft: when i lived in northwest washington we had a white christmas every few years
10:23 PM Tom_L: 14 school districts have closed due to the high wind tomorrow
10:24 PM Tom_L: 50-70mph gusts sustained 20-50mph depending where you are
10:24 PM Tom_L: trees, power lines etc expected to be downed
10:26 PM roycroft: several roads to the coast have been closed due to mudslides over the past few days
10:26 PM roycroft: us 101 (the coast highway) was closed for a while just north of here
10:28 PM Tom_L: seems mudslides & sinkholes are a problem on the left coast
10:32 PM roycroft: yes
10:32 PM roycroft: we overlogged
10:32 PM roycroft: and overcarbonated
10:32 PM XXCoder: anyone know whats happening at vancouver, bc?
10:32 PM XXCoder: last i heard is cut off, for possible yea ror two
10:34 PM roycroft: it's not any more
10:34 PM roycroft: highway 1 is mostly open now
10:34 PM roycroft: but there are continuing problems with the roads there
10:36 PM roycroft: if you're interested you can probably pick up cbc-1 in tacoma
10:36 PM roycroft: am 690
10:37 PM roycroft: i can get it ota here sometimes
10:37 PM roycroft: i usually listen to it on my internet radio, though
10:37 PM XXCoder: yeah listening isnt thing I can do, being deaf ;)
10:37 PM roycroft: oh, right
10:37 PM roycroft: sorry
10:37 PM XXCoder: np
10:38 PM roycroft: i wake up to the cbc every morning
10:38 PM roycroft: so i'm pretty aware of what's going on up there
10:38 PM roycroft: i listen to it for a half hour when my alarm first goes off, then i switch to an npr station
10:39 PM roycroft: i like getting a multinational perpective of the affairs of the planet
10:41 PM Tom_L: i just assume it's in a sad state and go about my day
10:42 PM roycroft: it often is, but there are also almost always some encouraging nuggets, if one spends the time to seek them out
11:00 PM roycroft: always look on the bright side of life
11:24 PM Bleepshop: XXCoder: Bone conduction units do you any good?
11:24 PM XXCoder: not really
11:24 PM XXCoder: in least I dont think so
11:24 PM XXCoder: my hearing centers in brain never really grew
11:25 PM Bleepshop: I have the same issue with the 'give-a-shit' centers for religion, politics and football. LOL
11:26 PM XXCoder: ok lol
11:28 PM Bleepshop: XXCoder: Reason I asked is I've been playing with these and thought it might be helpfull. https://www.daytonaudio.com/category/180/exciters
11:30 PM XXCoder: lol ok
11:30 PM Bleepshop: This has got to be one of the most professionally bodged together CNC rebuilds in history. I found the perfect plastic tank for my water cooling... TADA! LOL http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/image/spin_prod_101674401
11:34 PM Bleepshop: Set of bulkhead fittings in the non-moving part of the lid for the tubing and a set of these inside the tank for Go/No-Go/OOPS! sensors. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZG4Y34/
11:34 PM XXCoder: meowcoolant
11:36 PM Bleepshop: Well the meow does need to cool it. She's been stuck to my ass like Granny on the Sunday coupons and demanding to inspect every new piece as I install it. xD
11:49 PM Bleepshop: For anybody looking at the Spindle/VFD/Mount/5M tubing kit. The 5M of 8mm tubing was enough to do a one way run on my 48"x48" table. I ended up buying another 5M for the return line. And while you've got the drag chain open add a chunk of 6mm for air cooling the bit. ;D
11:50 PM XXCoder: lol
11:50 PM XXCoder: yeah sometimes something unexpected pops up
11:52 PM Bleepshop: Had I done it loose as a direct loop it would have probably been enough, but I wanted it all in the drag chain and out of the way.