#linuxcnc Logs
Dec 03 2021
#linuxcnc Calendar
02:08 AM Deejay: moin
02:25 AM XXCoder: man clickspring have amazing patreon only series. dial indictor
02:25 AM XXCoder: hes making one.
05:16 AM Loetmichel: harrrumph. now the alternator repair doubled in price. Because the mechanic needs until wednesday to repair it. 346eur for a rental VW polo :(
05:24 AM JT-Cave: morning
08:00 AM CloudEvil: If it's a rental why is it your problem?
08:00 AM CloudEvil: Oh
08:00 AM CloudEvil: nvm
08:22 AM Loetmichel: CloudEvil: i had to get a rental until my car is repaired :)
08:23 AM Loetmichel: ah, you got it yourself
08:23 AM Loetmichel: and the retnal is more expensive than the alternator swap
09:00 AM JT-Shop: it takes a week to change an alternator?
09:00 AM * JT-Shop calls in sick of work today
09:18 AM roycroft: it is friday, at long last
10:04 AM roycroft: and my weird work problem that was making my brain hurt all day yesterday is now fixed
10:04 AM roycroft: sometimes walking away from a problem and sleeping on it really helps
10:11 AM t4nk_freenode: (except when the problem is a fire rgng through your house of course)
10:11 AM t4nk_freenode: rgng = raging
10:12 AM roycroft: that's when you have to walk away and keep walking
10:12 AM t4nk_freenode: hehe
10:12 AM roycroft: or run away
10:38 AM roguish[m]: morning alll...........fixed my goof up of yesterday. found copies of the overwritten files on my VM test machine.....checked 'em out and back to working.......
10:52 AM t4nk_freenode: CaptHindsight[m], ..... https://postimg.cc/tsSPysYd
10:56 AM t4nk_freenode: now I feel like milling a little sd card of my own.... insert it into my ender
10:57 AM t4nk_freenode: save a file over wireless to the sd card... and then just refresh the card and print ;)
10:58 AM CloudEvil: I tried that, but I couldn't find the 5nm end-mills.
10:58 AM t4nk_freenode: lol
10:58 AM t4nk_freenode: I figure a v bit will do it just fine
10:59 AM t4nk_freenode: but that's only figuring, because I've never milled a pcb
11:00 AM JT-Shop: https://www.microseven.com/tv/lv/ZRppVpoFthp/Riverhouse.html
11:00 AM t4nk_freenode: .1mm tip on a 20degrees vbit, plus I get to design the traces too of course
11:17 AM roycroft: that would be a 0.1mm tip :)
12:05 PM t4nk_freenode: I'll walk away from this, sleep on it :b
12:21 PM jdh: Octopi does all that
12:23 PM aaroncnc: i do love octopi, i love that my slicer can just send the file and it will start auto printing it once the uplaod is done.
12:24 PM roycroft: i'm pretty happy with octopi
12:25 PM roycroft: i printed an rpi enclosure that fits under the control panel of my printer, and installed an rpi4 running octopi in there
12:25 PM roycroft: it takes up zero extra real estate, and lets me totally manage the printer remotely
12:25 PM roycroft: i even plugged a webcam into the rpi for remote monitoring
12:25 PM roycroft: when i get my next printer i'll do the same thing with it
12:26 PM aaroncnc: i love the fact that it "can" run on a 5$ rpi zero. Just have to use a usb camera and set it for only 1 fps.
12:26 PM aaroncnc: but i only use the camera to watch the first layer then ignore it for the rest of the print time.
12:27 PM roycroft: i don't monitor print jobs constantly
12:28 PM roycroft: but yes, i usually do watch it to ensure that it's going to stick to the build plate, and then just glance at it occasionally
12:28 PM aaroncnc: if one of my machines needs that much monitoring its time for it to go.
12:29 PM roycroft: i printed an er40 collet tray the other day - it was the biggest print i've made yet, and i wanted it to look nice so i did it in high quality mode (1.3mm layers)
12:29 PM roycroft: it took almsot two days to print
12:29 PM roycroft: there's no way i was going to monitor that the whole time
12:30 PM aaroncnc: TBH i just found some wood and a forstner bit for my collets. at the time wood was cheap and i had lots of scraps.
12:32 PM aaroncnc: I hate long prints. its why one of mine has a 0.6mm nozzle. i care less about looks and more about speed.
12:34 PM roycroft: well as my cnc router will be used, my 3d printer is primarily used for jigs/fixtures/shop items
12:34 PM roycroft: not for products
12:34 PM roycroft: so mostly i don't care about appearance either
12:34 PM roycroft: i'm not sure why, but i wanted the collet tray to look nice
12:35 PM roycroft: anyway, i'm not usually concerned about speed, although when i finally start printing my fastener storage boxes i'll be more concerned about speed, since i'll be printing a couple thousand of them
12:35 PM aaroncnc: If i had a router i think i would use it to make all sorts of trays and things.
12:35 PM roycroft: i plan on buying a second printer before i start that project, and i'll have both going at once
12:35 PM roycroft: i should experiment with a larger nozzle
12:35 PM roycroft: i'm already looking at months of printing to make all the boxes
12:36 PM roycroft: any time i can shave off would be helpful
12:36 PM aaroncnc: you could build a vacuum table and blow mold them.
12:36 PM aaroncnc: well vacuform.
12:37 PM aaroncnc: 3d print the molds then just go to to town.
12:37 PM roycroft: they're not that simple
12:37 PM roycroft: i'd have to redesign them if i were to do that
12:37 PM roycroft: i'm ok with printing over the course of several months
12:38 PM roycroft: i have a plan to transition the fasteners from their current home to the new one over time
12:39 PM aaroncnc: I have had issues with bins and trys being 3d printed. fine for low use but if i used it alot they started to break.
12:40 PM roycroft: i printed some prototypes a year or so ago, and have been using them ever since
12:40 PM roycroft: none have broken
12:42 PM aaroncnc: to be fair it was very cold in my shop over the winter when i broke a few.
12:42 PM roycroft: that may be a contributing factor
12:42 PM roycroft: i don't haul my fastener boxes around very much
12:42 PM aaroncnc: tossed some 2in bolts into a bin and the back broke away.
12:42 PM roycroft: i usually just pull out the fasteners i need and leave them in place
12:42 PM roycroft: but regardless
12:42 PM roycroft: i have a 3d printer, and will have 2 3d printers before long
12:43 PM roycroft: if i do break a box i can just print another
12:44 PM aaroncnc: What printer you going for? something like a cr-10? or maybe a 30 and just have it never stop printing?
12:44 PM roycroft: i have an ender5 right now
12:45 PM roguish[m]: roycroft: what brand? I've been looking at the ender
12:45 PM roycroft: creality
12:45 PM roycroft: i'm thinking about getting a prusa i3 mk3s+ as my next printer
12:45 PM roguish[m]: ender 5 plus >>> big volume
12:46 PM roguish[m]: how's the ender quality?
12:46 PM roycroft: i've been pretty happy with it
12:46 PM roycroft: it was my first 3d printer
12:46 PM roycroft: and i wanted something that was pretty turnkey, which it is
12:46 PM roycroft: it was cheap
12:46 PM roycroft: iirc i paid about $320 for it
12:46 PM roycroft: and has a decent build volume
12:47 PM roycroft: the prusa has a better hot end, and it can run at higher temps, so i can use materials such as nylon with the prusa
12:47 PM roycroft: but it's also more than 2x as expensive
12:47 PM roycroft: i may end up getting another ender 5
12:47 PM roycroft: or the 5 plus
12:48 PM roycroft: but i'd say that an ender5 is an excellent choice for an entry level 3d printer
12:48 PM roycroft: and it can be easily upgraded
12:48 PM aaroncnc: i have looked at those belt printers just waiting on them to get a bit more refined. I like the idea of mounting it to a wall and just printing long object.
12:48 PM roguish[m]: I know there's lots of upgrade thing for the enders
12:48 PM roycroft: i spent a fair amount of time looking at them, and ender5 is what made the most sense to me in the end
12:49 PM roguish[m]: so have I
12:49 PM roycroft: if i were to do it over again tomorrow i'd probably make the same choice
12:49 PM roycroft: even a year and a half later, with newer printers on the market since i got mine
12:49 PM aaroncnc: the best non home made printer i have is my cr-10 clone its been great!. i love the size too.
12:50 PM roguish[m]: that's a good testimonial
12:50 PM roycroft: my plan originally was to buy a turnkey printer to get some experience with 3d printing, then build one from scratch
12:50 PM roycroft: and while that's not a bad plan, imo, i'm focused on other things at the moment
12:51 PM roycroft: so my next printer will probably be another turnkey one, just because i won't have to invest any time designing it and building it
12:51 PM roycroft: entering a credit card number and punching a button only takes a couple minutes
12:51 PM roycroft: and i can focus my cnc energy on designing and building my router
12:52 PM aaroncnc: yea my 400lbs stratsys fm200 that i rebuilt to use modern hotends and controller has not been that great. Its nice that it has a full heated enclosure and all but due to its huge size its not fast. And i almost never need to use it.
12:52 PM aaroncnc: correction fdm2000
12:53 PM roycroft: i bought a small (6w) laser that fits on my ender5
12:53 PM roycroft: i've not really used it yet other than some initial testing
12:53 PM roycroft: but my thought was that when get my second 3d printer, i'd use the ender5 primarily for laser etching, and the new printer for 3d printing
12:53 PM aaroncnc: I did that on a printer and found that it clogged up my linear rails after a few hours of playing with it. Make sure to build something to suck away the smoke and particle matter.
12:54 PM roycroft: i have a quick disconnect mount for the ender5, so i can swap the laser head and the hot end quickly
12:54 PM roycroft: yes, i'll build a vented enclosure before i use the laser
12:55 PM roycroft: i need to both contain any laser reflections so that i don't put anyone's eye out, and keep the room it's in smoke-free
12:55 PM roycroft: and the vented enclosure is also a heat-containing enclosure when the vent fan is turned off, enabling me to print abs
01:07 PM roycroft: one of the nice things about the ender5 is that it has a 4-poster frame, so it is really easy to enclose
03:03 PM CaptHindsight[m]: aaroncnc: why is the Stratysys slow, well besides being FFF?
03:05 PM aaroncnc: the thing is built like a tank about 400lbs and its motion platform uses 19mm rails with a large aluminum base.
03:06 PM CaptHindsight[m]: aaroncnc: does it move the build platform vs move the hot end?
03:10 PM aaroncnc: CaptHindsight[m], https://photos.app.goo.gl/zeRXLuNiUqXnkUG68
03:10 PM aaroncnc: its an old video but shows how large the head is. also the door is shut so thats why its blurry.
03:11 PM aaroncnc: this is the internals. https://photos.app.goo.gl/6MrBBMHezURfvWwv5
03:12 PM aaroncnc: the original hotends were a big problem even made custom parts out of vespal to try and fix but never could get it right.
03:12 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ah and heated build chamber
03:13 PM aaroncnc: here is an image of the original hotends being a pain in the butt https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZioG2JJgpre37dT38
03:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: vespal ?
03:14 PM DaViruz: bra ide!
03:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: brand name ?
03:14 PM aaroncnc: https://www.curbellplastics.com/Research-Solutions/Materials/DuPont-Vespel-Polyimide#:~:text=Extremely%20high%20temperature%20creep%20resistant,materials%20lose%20their%20mechanical%20properties.
03:14 PM aaroncnc: i spelled it wrong.
03:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ah Vespel
03:16 PM aaroncnc: Yea not fun to work with on the lathe it likes to grab and chip out
03:16 PM aaroncnc: and i paid like 80$ for a 1in diameter bar by about 4in long.
03:16 PM aaroncnc: rod not abr
03:18 PM aaroncnc: To be honest i dont use this machine much at all. i kinda want to get rid of it. but then i would need to finish up the last 10%.
03:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: before all the original additive printers patents expired they all offered their own slow half assed printers
03:19 PM aaroncnc: yup and this onw was just before they started adding chips to the filament so they could expire if they were not used by a date or because the chip went bad.
03:20 PM CaptHindsight[m]: they all turn to the inkjet model for the most customer abuse
03:21 PM aaroncnc: Its sad i thought this would be my best printer and it would be awesome but i regret the amount of work i put into it and the results. I like my cr-10 clone with a direct drive better.
03:22 PM CaptHindsight[m]: HP only warranties the printheads in the binderjets for 4L, i found it in one of their docs but they refuse to discuss this with me
03:23 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=389cYQz21b8
03:23 PM aaroncnc: I have a brother thats i was able to buy a chip faker for and i have the ink cartridges outside the printer that i can refill.
03:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it's a $800-ish printhead x3
03:26 PM aaroncnc: i have bought entire cars that run and drive for less than that....
03:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so it's $2400-ish for every 40L of build volume since they dump about 10% binder into the powder by volume
03:28 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I think the big printer has a 20L build volume, so 2 print runs cost $2400 + the binder and the $100/L powders
03:28 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but they refuse to discuss this with me
03:29 PM aaroncnc: not surprised.
03:30 PM CaptHindsight[m]: on top of the printers costing $250-500k
03:30 PM CaptHindsight[m]: depending on build volume
03:33 PM aaroncnc: i will be happy once metal sintering printers come down in price
03:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: binderjet or laser types?
03:34 PM aaroncnc: yes
03:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: do you need fine detail or large volume?
03:36 PM aaroncnc: need is a strong word. i just want to have one. but i am a fan of large things.
03:36 PM roycroft: the answer to that is almost invariably "yes"
03:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: sand casting will be lower cost
03:37 PM aaroncnc: i know but i can want.
03:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: why not build one yourself?
03:39 PM aaroncnc: i think if i start that now i will be unhappy with the results at a cost i am willing to pay.
03:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: LCNC does all
03:43 PM roycroft: it both slices and dices?
03:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 💩 🪠Bond, James Bond
03:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I like Daniel Craig as an actor but doesn't he look more like somebody on a construction crew than a Bond?
03:47 PM roycroft: sean connery was the only real bond
03:47 PM roycroft: all the rest paled in comparison
03:48 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i want a womanizing female Bond next
03:57 PM roycroft: yeah, that would go over about as well as the mad max rehash
03:58 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and cross it over to Die Hard
03:59 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Bond is a plumber that always get caught up in international spy stuff
03:59 PM CaptHindsight[m]: "I was only here to fix the toilet"
04:00 PM roycroft: i haven't seen the mad max redo, btw
04:00 PM roycroft: i haven't intentionally avoided it - i just haven't gotten around to it
04:01 PM roycroft: i do recall the gist of the critical reviews though
04:01 PM roycroft: "it's full of wimmin!"
04:01 PM roycroft: "but was it any good?"
04:01 PM roycroft: "it had wimmin!"
04:01 PM roycroft: "yes, but was it well-acted and well-scripted?"
04:01 PM roycroft: "mad max isn't supposed to be about wimmin!"
04:04 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I vote for all movies and TV series to be cast with no white male actors for the next 10 years
04:05 PM aaroncnc: cant tell if serious...
04:06 PM CaptHindsight[m]: wish we can just get passed all the racism, sexism, religious superstition etc etc
04:06 PM CaptHindsight[m]: such a waste of time
04:07 PM aaroncnc: i want more all female reboots of all hit movies.
04:09 PM roycroft: like rosie?
04:10 PM roycroft: oh, you said reboot, not robot
04:10 PM roycroft: female robots would be fun too
04:57 PM JT-Shop: what a nice day on the river
04:58 PM Tom_L: nice day off the river here too
04:58 PM Tom_L: not gonna get too many more like it this year
04:58 PM JT-Shop: fedex driver wants to buy a slab of red oak... she left me a note on the box
04:59 PM Tom_L: really...
05:01 PM Tom_L: how did she know you had a bunch? i it out in plain sight?
05:02 PM Tom_L: android is about as bad as ff on updates...
05:16 PM JT-Shop: she put the boxes on top of it
05:17 PM JT-Shop: it's the slabs left from the giant red oak and they are under the carport where they are instructed to leave packages
05:19 PM Tom_L: ahh
05:19 PM JT-Shop: I think my utility knife is laying next to the shop scissors... I can't find it either
05:19 PM Tom_L: next to the box of hose parts
05:20 PM CloudEvil: Behind the tiger.
05:23 PM JT-Shop: nope, found the utility knife and found the box of hose and fittings
05:23 PM JT-Shop: scissors still mia
05:55 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: how about the Honda?
05:56 PM JT-Shop: which one?
06:01 PM roguish[m]: the new one
06:01 PM roguish[m]: Ridgeline?
06:03 PM roguish[m]: oh, that's right, you have a goldwong
06:03 PM roguish[m]: goldwing
06:05 PM JT-Shop: interesting misspelling lol
06:05 PM JT-Shop: and an Insight so 3 hondas in a row
06:05 PM roguish[m]: not intentional.....but funny anyway........
06:06 PM roguish[m]: had an time with my F150 the other day
06:06 PM JT-Shop: we drove the Corvette today, running boards and bedrug showed up for the Ridgeline so tomorrow installing them
06:06 PM roguish[m]: I dropped by an mechanics shop, that i used for my Ford Ranger. nice guy, good mechanic.
06:07 PM roguish[m]: asked him if he could give the F150 (new to me, but a 1998 wi/ 135k) a check in case I want to take it on a long trip
06:07 PM roguish[m]: no problem he says. of course.
06:07 PM roguish[m]: I get in to leave ant the truck won't start.
06:07 PM JT-Shop: dang that's older than Rusty...
06:08 PM roguish[m]: shit.
06:08 PM JT-Shop: I had that problem with rusty last winter in a blizzard while trying to haul firewood
06:08 PM roguish[m]: he takes a bunch of time and checks fuses, relay, fuel pressure (none)
06:08 PM JT-Shop: turned out to be the starter solenoid was worn out
06:09 PM JT-Shop: oh spins but won't run?
06:09 PM roguish[m]: figures it's the fule pump. about $800. it's in the tank of course.\
06:09 PM JT-Shop: yup, I think they all are anymore
06:09 PM roguish[m]: I leave, get home, and think.
06:09 PM JT-Shop: I picked the bed off mine with my gantry crane and changed mine
06:10 PM roguish[m]: there is an inertial fuel safety switch..........in the cab
06:10 PM JT-Shop: really, a fuel cutoff?
06:10 PM roguish[m]: it messed upl once before, but I forgto
06:11 PM roguish[m]: yeah, a simple switch that opens when it gets a physical shock, like an accident. keeeps the pump from pouring gas all over.
06:11 PM JT-Shop: I thought only Dodge needed them to prevent the catching on fire... hardly see any burned up Dodge trucks on the side of the road any more
06:11 PM JT-Shop: something you can reset?
06:12 PM roguish[m]: anyway, went back the next morning. the mechanic had just arrived. came out and i mentioned the swtich. head slap time.
06:12 PM roguish[m]: yeah, checked it. did not look bad. and of course the truck started right up.
06:12 PM roycroft: air cooled volkswagens have that problem, as the fuel is gravity fed to the engine
06:13 PM roguish[m]: dogded a bullet on that one.
06:13 PM roguish[m]: came home and ordered a new inertial fuel safety shutoff switch........... should be here is a few days.
06:14 PM roguish[m]: what a fright
06:14 PM roguish[m]: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NU76RM?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
06:16 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: yeah, it resets, but this is the second time it's 'worked' without any reason...... didn't hit any big bumps or anything.
06:16 PM JT-Shop: aye time to replace that
06:16 PM roguish[m]: cheap insurance
06:16 PM JT-Shop: yup
06:17 PM roguish[m]: on my little mercedes sedan, one of the secondary catalytic converters is crapping out.
06:17 PM Tom_L: when you drive a tank you don't need alot of insurance
06:18 PM roguish[m]: my benz is a 2003 and worth less than the cost of replacing the cat.
06:19 PM roguish[m]: different mechanic. said since it's the secondary (yes, there are 2 per side of the v6) ya can cut it out, clean the guts out, and weld it back in place.
06:20 PM roguish[m]: I asked 'is that legal?' remember i'm in Cal. of course it's not legal.........
06:20 PM JT-Shop: nothing is legal in cali
06:20 PM Tom_L: is anything legal out there besides weed?
06:20 PM roguish[m]: not much.
06:20 PM JT-Shop: oh yea I forgot about weed
06:21 PM JT-Shop: most products say "Not for sale in California" lol
06:21 PM roguish[m]: the government has so much red tape and taxes on weed, that the illegal stuff is still selling way better than the legal
06:22 PM JT-Shop: can't they just go to Oregon and buy all they want?
06:22 PM roguish[m]: Tom_L: have you ever seen ddt fogger trucks spaying ?
06:23 PM Tom_L: as a kid we chased them on our bikes so yeah :)
06:23 PM roguish[m]: shit, you are old, too.
06:23 PM Tom_L: hah
06:23 PM JT-Shop: yup we did too in Metairie La
06:23 PM JT-Shop: the Fog Man!
06:23 PM roguish[m]: I lived on military base in NC.
06:24 PM roguish[m]: we need Covid vaccine fogger trucks..........
06:24 PM Tom_L: jus put on a bunch of free stadium events and have a fly over
06:24 PM JT-Shop: just wait till all the anti-vaxers are dead and take all their stuff
06:25 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: that's comin'
06:25 PM JT-Shop: aye
06:25 PM roguish[m]: hey, got my spindle PID working better. holds +-2 rpm at 2000rpm
06:26 PM Tom_L: not bad
06:26 PM JT-Shop: I want a t-shirt that says "Anti-Vaxer" Can I have your stuff when you die?
06:26 PM JT-Shop: that's damn good
06:26 PM roguish[m]: modbus control on the vfd.
06:26 PM roguish[m]: and fixed my update FU of yesterday.
06:27 PM Tom_L: went pretty easy didn't it?
06:29 PM roguish[m]: well, i found copies of the files that were overwritten, on my test VM system.
06:29 PM roguish[m]: still asking cmorley to help a bit.
06:29 PM roguish[m]: he's cool.
06:30 PM roguish[m]: we've topped out at 54.9 deg here today.........
06:31 PM Tom_L: 58 here
06:31 PM Tom_L: not sure what the high was
06:31 PM roguish[m]: where are you at?
06:31 PM Tom_L: ks
06:31 PM roguish[m]: ok,
06:32 PM roguish[m]: flat land
06:32 PM Tom_L: yeah unlike those guys in Mo, we like to see the tornados coming at us
06:33 PM XXCoder: JT-Shop: lol i read about guy who wanted "vaccined" on paper but not actually vaccined, so he got fake arm and tried that. hes called in for fraud
06:33 PM XXCoder: italy. antivax is everywhere
06:34 PM roguish[m]: I'm for the Austrian and German way. require it across the board. NO exception. no jab, no care.
06:36 PM roguish[m]: arrial spraying like we used to have here for the fruit flys....
06:37 PM roycroft: and that is not the case in germany at all
06:37 PM roycroft: i don't know about austria
06:37 PM roycroft: the current german lockdown restricts non-vaccinated people to emergency travel only - to grocey stores and to health care facilities
06:37 PM roycroft: but nobody in germany is *required* to get a covid-19 vaccine
06:39 PM roycroft: i'm not sure that any country in the world requires every person to be vaccinated
06:39 PM roycroft: and as stong a proponent of the vaccine as i am, i don't think it should be required
06:39 PM roycroft: but if you won't get the jab, you should have to stay home
06:39 PM roycroft: period
06:42 PM * JT-Shop wanders inside for the night... chickens are all tucked in
06:48 PM roycroft: i am about to go make some parts on my mill for the first time since the motor/controller upgrade
06:50 PM Tom_L: that will require some pics
06:51 PM roguish[m]: got two more approaches.............
06:51 PM roguish[m]: in the water supplies like flourodation
06:51 PM roguish[m]: and in mild like vitamin D
06:52 PM roguish[m]: milk
06:52 PM Centurion_Dan1 is now known as Centurion_Dan
07:04 PM roycroft: distilled water and pure grain alcohol are the only safe beverages to drink
07:04 PM roycroft: it's all about purity of essence
07:05 PM roycroft: i need to adjust the ramp-up and ramp-down of my spindle
07:05 PM roycroft: and i definitely need to make that support bracket for the motor mount plate
07:05 PM roycroft: but i can get this current job done
07:09 PM roguish[m]: speaking of booze. it's rum and tonic time.
07:09 PM XXCoder: roycroft: distilled water means you will evenually be short calcium and such
07:13 PM roguish[m]: ok, supper time. ttfn
07:52 PM flyback: https://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G24175
07:54 PM XXCoder: 300f geez
07:54 PM XXCoder: *3000
08:50 PM _unreal_: ve7it, you live?
08:55 PM _unreal_: not very lively in here
09:05 PM t4nk_freenode: waiting for the great stm32 show ;)
09:06 PM t4nk_freenode: good moaning btw
09:07 PM roycroft: that's better than being indoctrinated and brainwashed through fluoridation, xxcoder
09:08 PM _unreal_: stm32 show?
09:08 PM roycroft: ve must not have a mine shaft gap!
09:09 PM _unreal_: indoctrinated and brainwashed through fluoridation? funny you seem to follow the majority of my suggestions AFTER I mention them.
09:10 PM roycroft: i actually don't
09:10 PM roycroft: but is completely irrelevant
09:10 PM roycroft: you need to go back and look at the cinema that was produced in 1964 :)
09:10 PM roycroft: especially black comedies
09:11 PM roycroft: i do generally listen to what you say, _unreal_
09:11 PM roycroft: but i do not blindly follow your sage advise
09:11 PM _unreal_: roycroft, I'm talking to t4nk_freenode
09:12 PM roycroft: i listen to what everyone says
09:12 PM _unreal_: more directly
09:12 PM t4nk_freenode: ?
09:12 PM roycroft: oh, well that was not apparent, as i'm the one who made the statement about indictrination and brainwashing
09:12 PM _unreal_: true
09:12 PM _unreal_: and true
09:12 PM t4nk_freenode: yeah... it's not really making sense
09:12 PM roycroft: it seemed you were directly addressing me
09:13 PM t4nk_freenode: it does.
09:13 PM roycroft: anyway
09:13 PM roycroft: happy friday
09:13 PM roycroft: i did not finish my parts
09:13 PM _unreal_: ?
09:13 PM roycroft: but i got about 7/10 of an hour of spindle time
09:14 PM roycroft: and tomorrow i'll do some fine tuning of the vfd, and my mill will be even happier
09:14 PM roycroft: it already runs better than it ever has since i bought it brand new
09:14 PM roycroft: i started making my first parts today after i did the motor and controller upgrade on my mill, _unreal_
09:14 PM _unreal_: pictures?
09:15 PM roycroft: i did not take any today
09:16 PM roycroft: https://roycroft.us/Mill-Motor-Mount
09:16 PM roycroft: those are a couple pics from while i was installing the motor
09:17 PM Tom_L: made a brace for it yet?
09:17 PM roycroft: no
09:17 PM roycroft: and that needs to be done soon
09:17 PM Tom_L: i kinda figured you'd need one
09:18 PM roycroft: i'm not going to machine any steel until i brace it
09:18 PM roycroft: but the parts i was working on today were aluminium
09:18 PM t4nk_freenode: that's a big motor
09:18 PM roycroft: and i can take it easy, and avoid the harmonics that cause it to vibrate
09:19 PM roycroft: 2hp
09:19 PM roycroft: the stock motor was 3/4hp
09:19 PM roycroft: i did not really need a 2hp motor, but that's what i had in stock
09:20 PM roycroft: so i decided to use that instead of buying a new motor
09:20 PM roycroft: since it is belt drive and not gear drive, i am not too concerned about that big of a motor
09:20 PM roycroft: and i did order spare belts, which i hope not to have to use for quite a while
09:21 PM t4nk_freenode: in any case... it's quite a different cookie from my 500W chinese spindle
09:21 PM Tom_L: cheaper to get spares when you order than to have to get one later
09:22 PM Tom_L: basically free shipping
09:22 PM _unreal_: t4nk_freenode, have you tried to mill aluminum at all?
09:22 PM t4nk_freenode: yes _unreal_
09:22 PM _unreal_: and?
09:22 PM t4nk_freenode: doable
09:23 PM t4nk_freenode: however... I'm not going to put my machine through unnecessary stress for a while
09:24 PM _unreal_: ya my smaller machine is really designed for a greater stress load
09:24 PM roycroft: as well, there's no downtime when one fails
09:24 PM _unreal_: though you do have a more powerful spindle then I do
09:24 PM _unreal_: what is your spindle RPM
09:25 PM _unreal_: mine is 15k rpm 300watt
09:26 PM Tom_L: 5.5k @ 1.2kw
09:26 PM Tom_L: chews aluminum pretty good
09:26 PM Tom_L: steel not bad
09:26 PM _unreal_: My big spindle on the machine that is not finished yet is a 24k rpm 1.5kw
09:27 PM _unreal_: its never seen action ye though :(
09:27 PM _unreal_: minus one part to get that cnc machine going
09:30 PM t4nk_freenode: they are 12k rpm
09:39 PM roycroft: mine?
09:39 PM roycroft: about 3000rpm at the moment
09:39 PM roycroft: but i can adjust that
09:40 PM roycroft: with the old motor i had a maximum spindle speed of around 2500rpm
09:41 PM * roycroft just popped a pizza in the oven
09:42 PM t4nk_freenode: I'll be poopin' one into the bowl in a bit ;)
09:42 PM * Tom_L slides an empty plate roycroft's way
09:42 PM roycroft: i'll warn you
09:42 PM roycroft: tonight's pie has anchovies
09:42 PM roycroft: some don't care for that
09:46 PM t4nk_freenode: every few years, I come back from the supermarket with a jar of 'rolled up sour herrings'
09:46 PM t4nk_freenode: only to discover I don't like them after all
09:48 PM Tom_L: meh, i'll pass :)
09:49 PM roycroft: tonight is caramelized onions, anchovies, roasted red peppers, and mushrooms, with a red sauce
09:49 PM roycroft: and just mozzarella cheese tonight
09:50 PM XXCoder: roy highly questionable. it helps harden teeth. and thats it
09:50 PM roycroft: i have been making my sauce from scratch for a while, and add no salt to it, so that when i use anchovies there's not a huge sodium hit
09:54 PM roycroft: xxcoder: clickspring is making a dial indicator
09:54 PM roycroft: there will be three videos on it
09:54 PM Tom_L: that was mentioned by him earlier
09:55 PM roycroft: the first one is available for patrons now, so it should be available for the general public soon
09:55 PM roycroft: oh, i did not see that
09:55 PM Tom_L: i think it was him
09:56 PM XXCoder: yeah watched it. awesome. sorta ispired to make 3d printable version
09:57 PM XXCoder: not for usage in shop but for fun
09:58 PM XXCoder: I probably would make cylinder a square, more printable.
09:58 PM XXCoder: gears just print flat and done
09:58 PM roycroft: i haven't had a chance to watch it yet
09:58 PM roycroft: i've been pretty busy this week
10:00 PM XXCoder: no worries
10:00 PM roycroft: it looks like it will be an interesting project, as most of his are
10:01 PM XXCoder: if you find clickspring videos not interesting, youre tired of life
10:01 PM XXCoder: na kidding, but yeah very good video
10:11 PM _unreal_: ve7it, sup