#linuxcnc Logs
Nov 16 2021
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:08 AM Rhine_Labs: Still a work in progress.. but getting there.. may have to redo it tried it in UHD 60 but looks blurry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PmWU5LukU4
01:19 AM sadara: pcw-home, is there a pinout for the ENCY adaptor?
01:19 AM sadara: pcw-home, I can't find one online
01:58 AM Deejay: moin
02:08 AM Rhine_Labs: Evening
02:09 AM Rhine_Labs: HD should be showing now..
03:07 AM randy: morning
05:49 AM unterhaus_: sadara manual is here, not sure why it isn't linked anywhere http://freeby.mesanet.com/encyman.pdf
05:49 AM sadara: thanks
06:02 AM JT-Cave: morning
06:47 AM Tom_L: morning
07:22 AM unterhaus: just saw an aliexpress chip removal fan in action. best have your eye protection on
07:23 AM Tom_L: jet blast?
07:24 AM Tom_L: :)
07:29 AM unterhaus: it's like a model airplane fan, one of the folding blade versions
07:29 AM unterhaus: https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000103486807.html
07:31 AM unterhaus: in action https://www.instagram.com/reel/CWVVNGsoYWk/?
08:32 AM perry_j1987: nice
08:32 AM perry_j1987: whew 28 outside right now
08:35 AM wonderer: pointless, why spread all the %&$# all around
08:36 AM wonderer: i might as well add masking tape/bluetape around my bit and do same thing
08:38 AM perry_j1987: wonderer some might want to clear chips without using a huge air compressor to do the job
10:00 AM roycroft: Well the seventh time's a charm, I guess
10:01 AM roycroft: As tjat
10:01 AM roycroft: that is how many attempts it took me to upgrade my iMac before it actually worked
10:11 AM roycroft: The machine runs so much faster now - it was worth the hassle and the day and a half downtime
10:14 AM roycroft: It looks like we might get our first frost tonight
10:38 AM JT-Shop: supposed to be sunny and 72°F today but I'm not seeing any sun
10:51 AM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: thought you were freezing a few days ago?
10:58 AM JT-Shop: we got down to 32°F a few nights
11:00 AM roguish[m]: we're hovering in the 50's and 60's, with lots of very wet fog. so it's chilly.
11:00 AM roguish[m]: but we don't get any of that white shit here...... just a dusting on the top of the local mountain
11:11 AM roycroft: there is probably snow in the foothills this morning
11:11 AM roycroft: it's too cloudy for me to be able to see
11:47 AM FinboySlick: See? All they needed was that meeting in Glasgow and they completely fixed global warming.
11:55 AM roycroft: Except "global warming" is a completely misnomer that has not been used in the scientific community for decades
11:56 AM roycroft: "global climate change" is what is really happening, and if you think it's fixed, go ask the folks in british columbia about taht
11:56 AM roycroft: And ask me in a few days as we are likely going to experience severe flooding
11:58 AM CloudEvil: It's not a complete misnomer. Averaged over the globe and seasons, there is a warming. This is however easy to misunderstand in intentional and not ways.
11:59 AM roycroft: The term is not "misunderstood", it's abused
12:00 PM roycroft: Which is why it cannot be used
12:01 PM roycroft: Regardless of political leanings here, I think this is preaching to the choir - I doubt that any person on this channel denies that the climate is changing, and that the change will have dire effects on human society throughout the planet
12:02 PM roycroft: The differences some may have here are more about the cause and what can be done to lessen the effect
12:02 PM roycroft: Nobody here is going to say that if it snows in the winter that's proof that the climate is not changing
12:02 PM roycroft: Unlike some of our elected officials
12:03 PM roycroft: "Global warming" is a toxic a phrase as "Defund the police"
12:03 PM roycroft: Although the latter was just plain stupid to ever have been coined, while the former was well-intended
12:08 PM JT-Shop: dang fix one issue and it causes another issue... these modifications to the spoke lathe feeder is getting old but I'm almost done I think
01:12 PM MarkusPongratz[m is now known as MaPo[m]
01:32 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, good thing you're a good problem solver
02:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: FinboySlick: did they trace the cause back to something in Glasgow?
02:26 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 🔫 trigger warning
02:30 PM FinboySlick: CaptHindsight[m]: Apparently. And here I was being humorous.
02:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: this channel borders on Science as well as Humor
02:36 PM FinboySlick: I was ironically away getting some steak and shamelessly contributing to it. 20$ for a 500g steak :P I never expected meat to become this opulent a commodity.
02:39 PM CaptHindsight[m]: beef prices have been pretty steady around here
02:41 PM FinboySlick: I'm scrambling to get all the materials to finish my house, things are climbing very quickly in every sector here.
02:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: "never let a crisis go to waste" has effected many prices though around here
02:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: lumber went back down
02:41 PM FinboySlick: Rahm Emanuel, quote, right?
02:41 PM FinboySlick: (or however that's spelled)
02:42 PM FinboySlick: Yeah, I was luckily past the 'lumber' stage of the house when that hit.
02:42 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://freakonomics.com/2009/08/13/quotes-uncovered-who-said-no-crisis-should-go-to-waste/
02:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: good thing we all solved that corruption problem
02:47 PM FinboySlick: Electrical wire wasn't too pleasant.
02:47 PM FinboySlick: Got a decent deal on pex though.
03:15 PM CaptHindsight[m]: roycroft: did you mention trying to use Pycam recently?
03:15 PM roycroft: i haven't had a chance
03:15 PM roycroft: i got it installed last week, finally
03:15 PM roycroft: but since then i've not had an opportunity to work with it
03:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: seb took it under his wing but many don't know of his git for it
03:16 PM roycroft: yes, i chatted with him about it on the -devel channel
03:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i think they said it's going into Debian as a package
03:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ok, so you are aware
03:17 PM roycroft: the problem is that the current release version uses python 2.x
03:17 PM roycroft: and modern debian has python 3.x
03:17 PM roycroft: but the devel version of pycam is based on 3.x
03:17 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah, old unsupported Python
03:17 PM roycroft: so i grabbed it and installed it
03:17 PM roycroft: i'm not sure it needs to be added to debian as a package
03:17 PM roycroft: it just needs to be released :)
03:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I guess it's clean enough to go in
03:18 PM roycroft: and i told seb et all that if i were to make a request of them, it would be that they get someone to port it to mac os, which hasn't been done in a decade, rather than add it to debian
03:18 PM roycroft: because, as i said, it's so easy to install on debian
03:19 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I want to work on 5+axis CAM for Freecad/Path but they are going to refactor
03:19 PM roycroft: apt -y install python3-gi python3-opengl gir1.2-gtk-3.0
03:19 PM roycroft: apt -y install inkscape pstoedit
03:19 PM roycroft: apt -y install node-js-yaml
03:19 PM roycroft: then git clone it and bob's your uncle
03:20 PM roycroft: from what seb indicated, it's been ready to go for a long time, but nobody can be bothered to actually package it up
03:24 PM Tom_L: not sure but what it may have been pushed on to mainstream
03:25 PM Tom_L: i seem to recall something about that
03:26 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://github.com/SebKuzminsky/pycam
03:26 PM Tom_L: <pere> seb_kuzminsky: I suspect the pycam packaging in git is good enough to go into debian.
03:28 PM roycroft: there was discussion about how onerous it is to build and maintain a .deb package
03:29 PM roycroft: i've never built one myself, so i can't say from personal experience
03:29 PM roycroft: but that's what they were discussing
03:38 PM pere: roycroft: try 'debuild' in the git repository to build one. :)
05:22 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, problem solved grab the wife and jump in the Corvette and drive 75 miles to Red Lobster and stop at the Honda dealer for a bit
05:24 PM CaptHindsight[m]: from what i have heard .deb's are 50% tradition, 50% luck, 50% using the package tool
05:26 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QrvP1m7ReI
05:26 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, coming back alone?
05:26 PM Tom_L: who gets to drive the vette home?
05:31 PM JT-Cave: the Ridgeline has not arrived yet...
05:32 PM * JT-Cave builds debs all the time and it's very easy...
05:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: easy for you to say
05:33 PM JT-Cave: easy for me to do as well, it's just one line in a terminal to build a deb
05:34 PM Tom_L: i made one once but didn't take notes
05:34 PM JT-Cave: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
05:35 PM Tom_L: but at least i know who to ask
05:35 PM JT-Cave: https://github.com/jethornton/simple-deb
05:35 PM JT-Cave: https://github.com/jethornton/simple-pyqt5-deb
05:36 PM JT-Cave: second one has a launcher that gets added to the Applications menu
05:36 PM Tom_L: btw, who maintains the html docs?
05:37 PM Tom_L: wondering how hard it is to default the docs to expanded... seems every time i open them they're collapsed
05:37 PM CaptHindsight[m]: no, i think it is much more complicated :)
05:38 PM * Tom_L gives CaptHindsight[m] an 'complicated' button from staples
05:38 PM JT-Cave: you can make it complicated if you like
05:38 PM CaptHindsight[m]: maybe it was kernels and LCNC
05:38 PM JT-Cave: I build a happy deb and linitan like it so I don't need complicated
05:40 PM JT-Cave: that "should" be as easy as adding to the debian/control Depends: line
05:40 PM JT-Cave: but I've not had to require rt-preempt for any of my projects
05:41 PM JT-Cave: all my projects of late do require python3 (<=3.6)
05:41 PM JT-Cave: well (>=3.6) even
05:43 PM JT-Cave: Tom_L, the Ridgeline showed up on the transit slip on the 10th so I'm guessing early next week
05:43 PM Tom_L: hope so, it's been quite the wait
05:49 PM JT-Cave: later part of March to be exact lol
05:52 PM Tom_L: at least now it will still be a low mileage vehicle :)
05:54 PM JT-Cave: it should be pretty low mileage for sure, production line to rail car, rail car to car transport
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05:54 PM Tom_L: i say 7-10 mi
06:01 PM JT-Cave: I guess they do run it on a dyno for a bit
06:03 PM Tom_L: i might be a bit concerned if it had less than 1 or 2
06:03 PM JT-Cave: that might mean the backed it all the way down the train lol
06:06 PM Tom_L: ferris bueller's day off
06:12 PM JT-Cave: Thursday and Friday will be clear and cold here...
06:14 PM JT-Cave: On Saturday, November 13 at 7:19 a.m. EST, Falcon 9 launched 53 Starlink satellites to orbit
06:14 PM JT-Cave: might be a good sign for my Starlink
06:15 PM Tom_L: high tomorrow 54
06:15 PM Tom_L: 51 thurs
06:17 PM JT-Cave: rain here tomorrow
06:17 PM JT-Cave: time to hit the couch
07:01 PM XXCoder: https://youtu.be/AnQqYW5CZis
07:02 PM XXCoder: pretty cool idea
07:41 PM CaptHindsight[m]: roycroft: https://www.kelownanow.com/watercooler/news/news/Provincial/Vancouver_is_now_completely_cut_off_to_the_rest_of_Canada_by_road/
07:50 PM roycroft: it's pretty nasty up there
07:51 PM roycroft: last summer lytton bc burned almost completely
07:52 PM roycroft: last night the entire town was flooded, so whatever did not burn is now detroyed by the water
07:59 PM d2inventory: XXCoder: "wood" turning, lol
08:22 PM Rhine_Labs: WARNING!!! CAT POST!! https://youtu.be/x9Qi4iqW0Tc
08:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: and the box isn't even open yet!
08:38 PM Rhine_Labs: She is will be in it once the flap opens..
08:44 PM XXCoder: d2 lol
08:45 PM XXCoder: roycroft: yeah canada vancouver is completely cut off now
09:13 PM Tom_L: cut off how?
09:14 PM XXCoder: you cant drive to tha place
09:14 PM Tom_L: why?
09:15 PM XXCoder: mudslides, flooding, etc
09:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 🔫 climate change
09:16 PM XXCoder: it sucks.
09:17 PM CaptHindsight[m]: ☔️
09:18 PM Tom_L: visual effects don't come across that well from matrix
09:18 PM XXCoder: it shows up fine here
09:18 PM XXCoder: though tiny and bit hard to see for me lol
09:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it varies by client
09:18 PM XXCoder: yep. hexchat it works fine
09:19 PM XXCoder: not bad considering last build is 2014
09:19 PM Tom_L: probably just my eyes
09:19 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 💩 found this earlier
09:19 PM CaptHindsight[m]: searching for a mud Emoji
09:20 PM XXCoder: "mud" close enough
09:20 PM XXCoder: 💩
09:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: hahah
09:26 PM CaptHindsight[m]: guilty or proud?
09:44 PM tiwake[m]: yes
11:03 PM roycroft: Well, it looks like the storm is going to stay mostly to the north of here
11:58 PM CaptHindsight[m]: worm gear in the 120mm rotary positioner https://i.imgur.com/ogcWNqm.jpg
11:58 PM CaptHindsight[m]: 90:1 at the worm