#linuxcnc Logs

Oct 24 2021

12:26 AM solarwind: wow POL = CGA510
12:34 AM solarwind: Silly me searching for a POL to CGA510 adapter for my 100 lb propane tank so I can attach a regulator to it
02:19 AM Deejay: moin
05:08 AM JT-Cave: morning
06:46 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
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07:08 AM JT-Cave: well hell I picked the wrong hard drive to install debian on... all my stuff is gone
07:09 AM XXCoder: ow hope you have backup
07:09 AM JT-Cave: some stuff like github I can get back
07:10 AM XXCoder: :( its reason I put /home on different drive
07:10 AM XXCoder: os may be wiped but kmy files wont be unless I wipe that rather than os drive
07:10 AM XXCoder: backups help
07:10 AM JT-Cave: too late for that now
07:11 AM XXCoder: once had a hard drive die on me, thankfully i had backup then
07:11 AM XXCoder: that sucks
07:15 AM JT-Cave: I thought I was installing it on a third hard drive...
07:16 AM XXCoder: hmm
07:16 AM XXCoder: os is far smaller than total of all your files
07:16 AM XXCoder: you might be able to recover some
07:19 AM JT-Cave: how's that?
07:19 AM XXCoder: well files data bits is still there
07:20 AM XXCoder: with proper tools you can recover many files. thing is you have to ensure it dont get any more files and such as it would write over more files
07:20 AM JT-Cave: which tools would that be?
07:20 AM XXCoder: not sure, my knowledge in that area is very old
07:21 AM XXCoder: https://askubuntu.com/questions/865834/formatted-drive-recovery
07:21 AM XXCoder: seems to be good advice
07:27 AM JT-Cave: everything seems to be gone using testdisk
07:30 AM XXCoder: any luck with other tools?
07:36 AM JT-Cave: time to clean chicken poop
07:36 AM JT-Cave: I keep anything important on the NAS
07:36 AM XXCoder: thats good
07:36 AM JT-Cave: but a lot of programming info was on the hd
07:38 AM XXCoder: like source code?
08:02 AM JT-Cave: and example programs
08:05 AM XXCoder: :(
08:13 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, talk to flyback about data recovery
08:13 AM Tom_L: good morning..
08:14 AM JT-Cave: morning
08:14 AM XXCoder: and keep that drive off and not being used meanwhile
08:14 AM Tom_L: started a post for my rotary axis last night
08:14 AM Tom_L: it's putting out angular data but i can't test it yet
08:16 AM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN9aw9094ag
08:16 AM Tom_L: test file for it
08:16 AM Tom_L: linuxcnc canned cycles don't support rotary so i'll have to figure out a way around that
08:27 AM JT-Cave: you need the rotary to move during a canned cycle?
08:27 AM Tom_L: not during
08:27 AM Tom_L: but prior
08:28 AM JT-Cave: that should not be a problem then
08:28 AM Tom_L: but it would be part of the cycle code
08:28 AM Tom_L: i know i can figure it out
08:28 AM Tom_L: the cut on the video isn't in one plane, it's a helix
08:29 AM Tom_L: i just showed the end
08:30 AM Tom_L: the problem with the cad cam is it's so old. i have to do the code as it's unwrapped then wrap it around the cylinder
08:30 AM JT-Cave: that sounds like fun
08:30 AM Tom_L: so if holes are angular, i need to know distance instead
08:31 AM XXCoder: i wonder if you could do it as "standard xyz" then convert one of axis into rotatary axis
08:31 AM Tom_L: i doubt i use the rotary that much but it's a fun exercise
08:31 AM XXCoder: sometimes once you have a tool you wonder how you lived without it
08:38 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Smartcam/rotary/Rotary_unwrappede.jpg
08:38 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Smartcam/rotary/Rotary_wrapped.jpg
08:39 AM Tom_L: i haven't tried rotary on any other cad cam so i don't know how easy/hard it is with modern software
08:40 AM Tom_L: i doubt the free ones support it
08:40 AM tiwake[m]: like for a 4th axis on a mill?
08:40 AM tiwake[m]: or rotating around on a C axis lathe?
08:41 AM Tom_L: yes
08:41 AM Tom_L: mastercam etc probably do
08:41 AM tiwake[m]: you program it flat, with the Y-axis is going to wrap around the part
08:42 AM Tom_L: on modern software?
08:42 AM tiwake[m]: then change all the Y's to C's (for C-axis lathe)
08:42 AM Tom_L: well it's quite similar then
08:42 AM tiwake[m]: or A for the 4th axis in the mill
08:43 AM tiwake[m]: or wait, its a little different in the lathe
08:43 AM tiwake[m]: you gotta double the values if you keep diameter mode on
08:44 AM Tom_L: i doubt my lathe package supports it, it wasn't the good one
08:44 AM Tom_L: but i've only used it 2x
08:44 AM tiwake[m]: and still use Y, but put the lathe in polar coordinate interpolation mode
08:44 AM tiwake[m]: at least for fanuc controllers
08:44 AM tiwake[m]: probably similar for haas, donno about anything else
08:45 AM tiwake[m]: you gotta change the X values to Z values too
08:45 AM Tom_L: i dunno what they use at my kids work but it's probably catia
08:45 AM Tom_L: he runs a big 5 axis
08:46 AM tiwake[m]: you could use f-engrave... or whatever standard X and Y engraving software you like
08:46 AM Tom_L: i had to do that on one of the lathe parts
09:16 AM tiwake[m]: are there any good DC to DC constant current power supplies?
11:09 AM Tom_L: catia has a surface unwrap feature so i might try modeling there and use the unwrap to import to the cad cam
11:09 AM Tom_L: i haven't done much with that feature but i've seen what it does
11:51 AM roguish[m]: well hello. raining like a big dog here...... finally.
11:53 AM roycroft: it's been raining off and on here for days - we'll have heavy rain today, and a massive wind storm
11:54 AM roycroft: 75km/h wind gusts are forecast for here
11:54 AM Tom_L: we had the wind here last night
11:54 AM roguish[m]: it's windy down here too.
11:54 AM roycroft: i guess today is the day i find out how well i rebuilt my gazebo
11:55 AM roycroft: this wind storm is coming in all along the northern coast, up well into british columbia
11:55 AM roycroft: which is rather concerning, because a container ship in the straight of juan da fuca, very near victoria, is on fire
11:56 AM roycroft: and the wind and resultant heavy seas may make for a major disaster there
11:56 AM roguish[m]: I don't pay much heed to the media reports. they sensationalize everything so much. turn a drizzle into a downpour, a breeze into a gale....
11:56 AM roycroft: i go by the metar data
11:56 AM roycroft: that tends to be fairly neutral in tone
11:57 AM roguish[m]: think I saw that about the ship. couple containers blazing.......
11:57 AM roycroft: 10 at the moment
11:57 AM roycroft: and 40 containers overboard
11:58 AM roguish[m]: burning all that cheap chinese plastic shit
11:58 AM roycroft: which need to be retrieved so that other ships can pass through the strait
11:58 AM roycroft: it's actually a lot worse - the ones on fire contain toxic, flammable mining chemicals
11:58 AM roguish[m]: ooh.
11:59 AM roycroft: some of which are spontaneously combustable
11:59 AM roguish[m]: ok, out to the shop to test some rigid tapping.....
12:01 PM roycroft: i want to go work on my mill gears, but we start counting votes in a couple hours, so i have to get ready for that
12:21 PM roycroft: i guess in can get started on making the clamping pads for the smaller gear
12:22 PM roycroft: making the ones yesterday for the other gear felt kind of weird
12:22 PM roycroft: i made a beautiful, perfectly-sized ring that was accurate to a couple tenths
12:22 PM roycroft: and then immediately took it out to the fabrication shop and chopped it up with a cutoff tool
12:23 PM roycroft: but that's what fixturing is all about
12:24 PM Tom_L: i try to use precision cutting tools for that
12:24 PM Tom_L: like a hack saw
12:53 PM satiowadahc[m]: Today in having tools returned. Making a new alignment pin for a pole saw that they somehow snapped?
12:56 PM CloudEvil: 'It's OK, it's not my blood'
12:57 PM Tom_L: on a rotary axis is the feedrate measured in degrees per min or some other method?
01:00 PM satiowadahc[m]: Per second if I recall correctly in Linuxcnc.
01:02 PM Tom_L: G93..95
01:03 PM satiowadahc[m]: ... Was looking at the Ini file, whoops https://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/config/ini_config.html#sub:TRAJ-section
01:04 PM satiowadahc[m]: https://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/g-code.html#gcode:g93-g94-g95,
01:04 PM satiowadahc[m]: Unit per minute
01:05 PM Tom_L: thanks
01:29 PM satiowadahc[m]: With a small pin, 0.3" thick × 0.5" tall. To prevent it from snapping again, would heat treating be a smart idea or is there another way of strengthening it?
01:35 PM Tom_L: use good steel and heat treat it?
01:36 PM satiowadahc[m]: Not sure if this is good steel,just what I had laying around. But heat treating would be the way to go?
01:43 PM * satiowadahc[m] uploaded an image: (17KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/lzPcTiibMOroJDNxNsPkuUqD/image.png >
01:43 PM satiowadahc[m]: Seems a small pin to bear the weight of pushing against a tree while cutting it down.
01:45 PM Tom_L: depends on the shear strength of the steel
01:48 PM satiowadahc[m]: It was aluminum before, so just switching to steel might be enough.
01:48 PM CloudEvil: You can't treat much steel that's lying around
01:49 PM CloudEvil: But going from Al->steel will generally always help unless you care about corrosion.
01:50 PM satiowadahc[m]: It sits next to the auto lubricant, so maybe the chain oil coming out will help stop corrosion slightly?
01:57 PM Orki: Good evening, anyone here who is using linuxcnc on ArchLinux and could help me with debugging the install ?
01:59 PM satiowadahc[m]: Possibly, whats your current place in the install?
01:59 PM satiowadahc[m]: Have you seen: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/index.html?
02:01 PM Orki: I sucessfully installed it with yay -S linuxcnc from the AUR, the launcher opens fine and i can select a example config. Also pncconf opens via the terminal, but opening stepconf gives me the following error :
02:01 PM Orki: Traceback (most recent call last):
02:01 PM Orki: File "/usr/bin/stepconf", line 30, in <module>
02:01 PM Orki: import gi
02:01 PM Orki: ImportError: No module named gi
02:02 PM Orki: I have to say that at the moment i am running Arch with the newest kernel and the LTS kernel
02:02 PM Tom_L: why not debian?
02:03 PM Orki: I was about to install the RT kernel but that thing has to be build and for compilation its downloading 6GB ....
02:05 PM Orki: I am just discovering LinuxCnc and want to try out i its something for me....i been using entry beginners cnc software like chilipeppr with arduino shield and want to take a step up
02:05 PM Tom_L: http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/
02:05 PM Tom_L: 32 or 64 bit?
02:07 PM Orki: 64bit EndeavourOS, which is a almost vanilla Arch distro on a acient 13 years old Q6600 and P35-DS3R board with parallel port
02:07 PM Tom_L: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/debian10-rt.html
02:07 PM Tom_L: you may not be able to run preempt on that
02:07 PM Tom_L: it usually works better on newer hardware
02:08 PM Tom_L: older hardware may require older software
02:08 PM Tom_L: i'm running wheezy on my mill but can still run 2.8.2 linuxcnc
02:08 PM Tom_L: usint RTAI instead of preempt-rt
02:11 PM Orki: I could setup a seperate partion for a debian install, but first i wanted to try linuxcnc if it suites me before doing a special setup just for cnc work.
02:11 PM Tom_L: what are your goals for it?
02:15 PM Orki: I am doing beginner level 3d printing and laser work with chilipeppr and GRBL the last years, but i want to step up and dreaming to do a wood working cnc setup for machining guitar bodys
02:15 PM Tom_L: cnc router?
02:15 PM Tom_L: cnc mill?
02:16 PM Tom_L: linuxcnc is alot more robust than GRBL
02:17 PM Orki: From watching youtube videos, a lot of guys with expensive machines are using linuxcnc, so its definetly more robust and on the Pro side.
02:19 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoG_JaILNz3Q-jBZ5MiK1dA/videos
02:19 PM Tom_L: you can see mine ther
02:19 PM Tom_L: hand built, no kit
02:19 PM Orki: Maybe i try to do a OpenBuilds version of a CNC router, but i don´t want to invest hundreds of euros at this time.
02:20 PM Tom_L: you can run off a parallel port but it's slower
02:20 PM Orki: whats the youtube channel name, so i can watch it on my smartphone ?
02:20 PM Tom_L: no idea :)
02:21 PM Orki: I watched videos from a german guy with a big old machine called Igor, i saw that he is also here in the forum :-D
02:23 PM Orki: Any guess on if the stepconf error has soemthing to do with the wrong kernel ?
02:24 PM Tom_L: i doubt it
02:24 PM Tom_L: probably missing a dependency package from arch that debian includes
02:24 PM Orki: Maybe @Joco could chime in, as i saw he did a tutorial for a version 2.9 install on Arch ?
02:24 PM Orki: https://www.forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/43928-linuxcnc-2-9-on-arch-linux
02:25 PM Tom_L: i'm not familiar with arch
02:26 PM Orki: When compiling the package, one get asked if the make dependencies should be removed afterwards, which i did confirmed with yes, remove
02:27 PM Orki: So it could be that on of those packages should be left for linuxcnc
02:27 PM Orki: I install it again, this time leaving the make dependencies...lets see if it makes any difference
02:27 PM satiowadahc[m]: `sudo apt install python3-gi python3-gi-cairo` Might help your last error you posted
02:28 PM satiowadahc[m]: or the arch equivilant
02:28 PM satiowadahc[m]: * Try to not to use pip3 for python3 installs, makes a mess with LCNC
02:30 PM satiowadahc[m]: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/b6552e9c7bfdde650cd65901930f23d085d09112/debian/control.top.in#L6
02:30 PM satiowadahc[m]: Some Required Dependencies can be found here... It'd be nice if this list could be broken out of code somehow.
02:31 PM roguish[m]: Orki: if you just want to try out Linuxcnc, it's way, way easier to use one of the iso's already created....
02:33 PM Orki: I forgot to tell that i also tried to install that fancy UI, what is called ? QtPyVPCSomething....and in that installation process there was a big chunk of python3 packages as dependencies involved
02:34 PM roguish[m]: stick to the mainstream. the axis gui is fine and will get you experience....
02:34 PM Orki: Can the Iso also be booted as a live system, or does it have to be installed ?
02:35 PM roguish[m]: QtPyVcp is in development and is not necessarily for the noobie......
02:35 PM roguish[m]: should be able to run as a live system. though maybe only in sim mode. RTFM
02:36 PM satiowadahc[m]: * Not to confused with QtVCP which is part of mainstream and not terrible for new users
02:36 PM roguish[m]: Read The Free Manual....
02:36 PM roguish[m]: QtVCP is also new and really still in development
02:37 PM roguish[m]: keep is all simple to start.
02:38 PM Orki: QtPyVcp is the framework for making beautiful Uis, thats what attracted me so much, as the standard UI is pretty....hmm....
02:39 PM Orki: I think i will try the ISO as a live system just to check a dummy configuraion.
02:39 PM roguish[m]: that's all well and good, but take baby steps..... it's much easier, and far less frustrating.
02:39 PM roguish[m]: there ya go.....
02:41 PM roguish[m]: Orki: check this out. i did this 12 years ago. replaced the controls on a shop made vertical lathe.....
02:41 PM roguish[m]: https://youtu.be/KT_cAiyks5U
02:42 PM satiowadahc[m]: Huh Jan 2019, I started using LCNC nearly as soon as QtVCP was usable.
02:43 PM satiowadahc[m]: I'll agree with your point its new.
02:43 PM Orki: Its not that the Arch install is completely broken, it installed fine....the Configuration window is opening, it stores the config in the folder...just that missing module is missing to go further
02:43 PM Orki: watching the video....
02:44 PM roguish[m]: that was a stock linuxcnc. maybe, like 1.8
02:44 PM roguish[m]: a while back
02:46 PM Orki: In the video thats more like live sculpting, looks awesome...whats the material, polyst......?
02:47 PM roguish[m]: it's a foam. for mold plugs for architectural fiberglass.
02:47 PM roguish[m]: 1/2" cutter about 12" long. very crude machine, but made lots of $$$$
02:52 PM Tom_L: Orki, you can run a latency test with the live iso
02:52 PM roguish[m]: almost 3.5 inches of rain since midnight. gonna be nothing but whining about it on the news this evening.
02:52 PM Orki: Haha....you guys have big work spaces, work shops to make hands dirty and machines doing chips. I have to scale up, and find a dedicated room for that kind of work. But again, i a just starting leaving the bedroom beginner level
02:53 PM roguish[m]: easiest way. baby steps..... little by little.
02:53 PM roguish[m]: goes for the $$$ too.
02:54 PM Tom_L: i built mine on a budget
02:54 PM roguish[m]: also really important is to figure out your goals first. avoid side tracks, and unnecessary expenses.
02:55 PM Tom_L: but got good electronics
02:55 PM Orki: Are there times here on the irc channel when most of the conversations are going ? I am new to IRC and its a pretty archaic chat system, i am used to Telegram, Matrix or other platforms
02:55 PM Tom_L: you may ask and have to wait sometimes
02:56 PM Tom_L: some of us have jobs
02:56 PM Tom_L: and lives
02:56 PM satiowadahc[m]: There is a bridge to the IRC, EG Im currently on matrix
02:56 PM Orki: I guess when starting, its easier to build a machine just for wood carving as it doesnt have to be so robust in termes of material, when doing metal work
02:56 PM roguish[m]: ya really never know. most of us have day jobs too. and it spans at least a dozen time zones. from at least Itally, to Australia
02:56 PM Tom_L: build it once or build it twice...
02:56 PM Orki: ah cool, whats the matrix channel/room name ?
02:56 PM Tom_L: linuxcnc
02:57 PM satiowadahc[m]: https://riot.im/app/#/room/#LCNC:matrix.org
02:57 PM Tom_L: it is also usually logged here
02:58 PM Orki: Are you still having those extreme covid restriction in australia ? So i guess you cant do much more as spending time in your workshop with your machines :-D
02:59 PM Orki: I will also register in the forum now, as you guys are pretty helpful and quickly responding. Thanks for that !!
03:01 PM StephanBeer[m]: Hello from matrix
03:01 PM StephanBeer[m]: So i can write with myself....
03:02 PM Orki: Hello Stephan, its me, the you
03:20 PM skunkworks: lol - the Cincinati lathe has a swith that changes resolvers. One set for imperial and a set for metric.
03:21 PM skunkworks: the english is geared for .2" per rev of the resovler. The metric one is geared for 2mm per rev of the resolver.
03:22 PM skunkworks: has a 50:127 gear increaser..
03:22 PM skunkworks: spring loaded - zero backlash gear train.
03:22 PM skunkworks: it is funny - in 73 it was cheaper to do it in hardware.
03:32 PM satiowadahc[m]: Now as my boss says "Just fix it in software"
03:51 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
03:51 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiw9Ta9xZGE
03:51 PM CaptHindsight[m]: noisy spindle
03:55 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Orki: there was some non official support for LCNC on ArchLinux ~10 years ago
03:55 PM tiwake[m]: whew... got to power on my little CNC tabletop mill thing
03:55 PM tiwake[m]: its a piece of shit though
03:55 PM tiwake[m]: lol
03:56 PM tiwake[m]: better than most of the cheaper pieces of shit I guess
03:56 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Orki: you'll get more help here if you just use the official LCNC ISO
03:56 PM tiwake[m]: I'd like to convert it to linuxCNC still... not sure what the best way would be
03:57 PM CaptHindsight[m]: tiwake: which boards are you using now?
03:57 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I'm just skimming the backlog
03:58 PM CaptHindsight[m]: an Rpi + SKR V2 is about the same price as a used PC and LPT port + BOB
03:59 PM tiwake[m]: CaptHindsight: its one of these https://reprap.org/wiki/Ultimaker%27s_v1.5.7_PCB
03:59 PM tiwake[m]: it looks like its a modified version of an older cura software
03:59 PM tiwake[m]: with only a few G commands built in
04:00 PM CaptHindsight[m]: you could reuse the stepper drivers and plug them into a SKR V2
04:01 PM tiwake[m]: at least it has ballscrews and linear bearings
04:01 PM tiwake[m]: https://www.casunsteppermotor.com/product/%E3%80%9057shd4407-28h%E3%80%91nema-23-bipolar-1-8deg-1-2nm-170oz-in-57x57x54mm-4-wires-stepper-motor-for-xyz-axis-cnc/
04:01 PM tiwake[m]: thats what it has for the Z-axis, and -23H for the X and Y
04:03 PM tiwake[m]: bbl in a few hours
04:03 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://remora-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
04:03 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but use an STM32 board vs the LPC17xx
04:04 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://github.com/scottalford75/Remora/releases/tag/1.0.0_rc
04:04 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the code is still wet
04:11 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:55 PM flyback: JT-Cave, talk to me
04:55 PM flyback: also don't use that drive you accidentely over wrote
04:55 PM flyback: cause you will over write further
05:01 PM flyback: a good program but isnt free although will recover files < 256KB
05:01 PM flyback: is r-studio
05:02 PM flyback: don't instal it on the drive you lost data on
05:03 PM flyback: im buying a licence for the full version myself
05:03 PM flyback: im just debating paying $20 more for the linux vs windows version
05:04 PM flyback: but it found filesystem listings in garbled dumps of old floppy disks
05:04 PM flyback: enough to show me what the disk was
05:04 PM flyback: using the demo
05:04 PM flyback: r-stupid owns your "canuck"
05:04 PM * flyback slaps rue_*.*
05:05 PM flyback: r-studio
05:07 PM flyback: only thing I wouldn't recommend it for is damaged media, use ddrescue. etc to extract the damaged media bits to something else then run r-studio on that
05:09 PM flyback: it smoked the shit out of testdisk which failed a lot on me
05:10 PM flyback: it will let you preview even video files etc in the demo version
05:10 PM flyback: just not copy anything bigger than 256KB
05:11 PM flyback: and yes it does linux filessystems
05:44 PM flyback: I gotta take a nap, not feeling well
05:45 PM flyback: back on later if you have questions
06:40 PM JT-Cave: flyback, thanks
08:35 PM XXCoder: yay
08:35 PM XXCoder: managed to do a hour work on yard before rains come back
08:43 PM snakedGT is now known as snaked
09:02 PM roycroft: the vote count went really well today and we got done early, so i was able to get my other timing gear bored
09:03 PM roycroft: it's been really blustery here, though
09:03 PM XXCoder: nice
09:03 PM roycroft: i've not done any outside chores for while, and probably won't for at least a couple weeks
09:05 PM XXCoder: it was nearly impossible
09:05 PM XXCoder: rains
09:05 PM XXCoder: but I got lucky and it was briefly sunny so I worked on blackberry for a hour or so.
09:24 PM roycroft: it was dark and windy and rainy all day here
09:25 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
09:27 PM Tom_L: since canned cycles don't support rotary axis, i wonder if i put a G00 A xxx.xx move ahead of the G8x line if i need to repeat all the canned cycle parameters each time or just the changes
09:28 PM Tom_L: since i haven't issued a G80 canned cycle cancel
09:30 PM Tom_L: ok the G00 will cancel canned cycles
09:31 PM Tom_L: The use of G80 in line N200 is optional because the G0 on the next line will turn off the G81 cycle.
09:32 PM tiwake[m]: wait what?
09:32 PM tiwake[m]: you can totally do that
09:32 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/gcode/g-code.html#gcode:g80
09:32 PM tiwake[m]: at least with fanuc
09:32 PM Tom_L: not according to that
09:32 PM Tom_L: that's why i asked :)
09:33 PM Tom_L: i wondered if they stayed active until G80 cancelled them
09:33 PM tiwake[m]: I do a lot of 4th axis stuff in the mill... including G83/G80
09:33 PM Tom_L: see, to use canned cycles on a rotary, i have to move the head before issuing the canned cycle
09:33 PM Tom_L: because they don't support the A B C words
09:34 PM tiwake[m]: it does not move with A? so its not a 4th axis?
09:34 PM Tom_L: i think they should but i can work around it
09:34 PM Tom_L: canned cycles don't support A B C axis
09:35 PM Tom_L: XYZ WXY yes
09:35 PM satiowadahc[m]: Huh canned cycles are just commands straight to the interpreter.
09:35 PM satiowadahc[m]: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_cycles.cc
09:35 PM Tom_L: i'll test it more once the axis is wired
09:35 PM tiwake[m]: yeah, I've G83 with a bunch of A moves before inside
09:35 PM Tom_L: with linuxcnc?
09:35 PM Tom_L: no
09:35 PM Tom_L: fanuc
09:36 PM Tom_L: or some other control
09:36 PM tiwake[m]: oh right, fanuc
09:36 PM tiwake[m]: still seems like it should
09:36 PM Tom_L: it should
09:36 PM Tom_L: but it may not have ever come up yet
09:37 PM tiwake[m]: easy to test anyway
09:37 PM tiwake[m]: I'm going to sleep
09:37 PM Tom_L: sure, i'm just trying to get my post as close as i can before i get it wired up
09:39 PM Tom_L: also have to specify G98 G99 each time as those are also cancelled
09:41 PM satiowadahc[m]: Have you considered remap?
09:42 PM Tom_L: meh, this is ok
09:42 PM Tom_L: would be more work than this
09:43 PM satiowadahc[m]: Pretty quick to write a subroutine and just call it. But that's the programmer in me talking
09:43 PM Tom_L: i'm done :)
09:47 PM satiowadahc[m]: Fair enough.
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10:30 PM skunkworks: english to metric conversion...
10:30 PM skunkworks: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Y94sVb1ZKKfX6gex5
10:31 PM skunkworks: english resolver in the middle. Metric on the left. tach generator on the right.
10:36 PM Tom_L: how about that!
10:36 PM Tom_L: it worked
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11:32 PM skunkworks: Lol - thanks Tom_L !
11:33 PM skunkworks: Time has been a bit blury lately.. I was windering when I figured out the ratios - it was this morning..