#linuxcnc Logs

Sep 09 2021

01:23 AM randy: morning
01:40 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:57 AM solarwind: I wish I could do glass fiber reinforced nylon molding at home
01:57 AM solarwind: It's really strong, and I love the texture of it on my power tools
03:46 AM TurBoss: morning
04:09 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:15 AM Tom_L: morning
04:15 AM XXCoder: o/
04:17 AM TurBoss: \o/
04:17 AM TurBoss: o/
04:17 AM TurBoss: what are you guys working on?
04:17 AM XXCoder: not much right now
04:17 AM XXCoder: maybe print something for fun
04:18 AM XXCoder: completely no luck with jobs, probably neet for life
04:22 AM Tom_L: TurBoss, do you have a link showing the ini hooks to qtpyvcp?
04:22 AM Tom_L: ie DISPLAY = or such
04:22 AM TurBoss: yes
04:23 AM Tom_L: somebody was asking about that here
04:25 AM TurBoss: ```INI
04:25 AM TurBoss: [DISPLAY]
04:25 AM TurBoss: DISPLAY = qtpyvcp
04:26 AM TurBoss: https://github.com/kcjengr/qtpyvcp/tree/master/linuxcnc/configs/sim.qtpyvcp
04:26 AM TurBoss: Tom_L: thanks
04:26 AM Tom_L: do you have to name the particular screen?
04:27 AM TurBoss: ```
04:27 AM TurBoss: DISPLAY = qtpyvcp # loads vcp chooser
04:27 AM TurBoss: DISPLAY = qtpyvcp vcpname # loads vcp directly
04:27 AM TurBoss: DISPLAY = vcpname #same as before
04:28 AM TurBoss: ```INI
04:28 AM TurBoss: DISPLAY = qtpyvcp vcp --develop # qss stylesheet live reload
04:29 AM Tom_L: roguish[m]> all the docs say: DISPLAY=qtpyvcp myscreen
04:29 AM Tom_L: he said that didn't work
04:29 AM TurBoss: he should install their VCP with
04:29 AM TurBoss: ```
04:29 AM TurBoss: cd myvcp/
04:29 AM TurBoss: python -m pip install -e .
04:30 AM Tom_L: you might wanna add that to a "beginner" page or something
04:30 AM TurBoss: and add
04:30 AM TurBoss: ```
04:30 AM TurBoss: .local/bin
04:30 AM TurBoss: ```to path
04:34 AM TurBoss: https://www.qtpyvcp.com/install/basic_usage.html
04:34 AM TurBoss: ;)
04:35 AM Tom_L: thanks
04:36 AM TurBoss: welcome
04:37 AM TurBoss: I'm curious if the qtvcp guys have the same problem i have with python3 when i run editvcp AKA designer
04:37 AM TurBoss: i need to run linux cnc before once
04:37 AM TurBoss: to be able to run disgner
04:38 AM Tom_L: huh
04:38 AM Tom_L: i'm not sure about that
04:38 AM TurBoss: i just leave the question here
04:39 AM TurBoss: [EditVCP.Designer][INFO] tool_mmap_user(): file open fail: No such file or directory (editvcp.py:93)
04:39 AM TurBoss: [EditVCP.Designer][INFO] tool_mmap_user(): no mmap file,continuing (editvcp.py:93)
04:39 AM TurBoss: [EditVCP.Designer][INFO] mmap tool data not available, continuing emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc (editvcp.py:93)
04:39 AM TurBoss: once i run linuxcnc this error is gone
04:39 AM TurBoss: like if something gets initialiced
04:39 AM XXCoder: seems like some file is missing and it crrated em?
04:40 AM TurBoss: yes like a tool table thing
04:40 AM XXCoder: tool table, coords
04:40 AM XXCoder: i think theres other settings too? forgot what'
05:38 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:38 AM XXCoder: o/
05:41 AM TurBoss: Hola
06:01 AM t4nk_freenode: G'day
09:03 AM unterhaus: I wonder what the heaviest machine that's being run from a Pi4 is
09:03 AM unterhaus: I know it's a weird question
09:08 AM Tom_L: i've tested on mine and skunkworks' green machine is
09:08 AM Tom_L: mine is too heavy to lift alone, his is probably heavier
09:09 AM Tom_L: the control would work the same no matter
09:15 AM unterhaus: at some point the stakes are a lot higher though. Green machine crashes and nothing much happens
09:16 AM unterhaus: I suppose if my bridgeport crashes, probably nothing would happen
09:16 AM Tom_L: that's what the big red button is for
09:17 AM unterhaus: at some level of size, the design of the circuit controlled by the big red button is a lot more important
09:17 AM unterhaus: like those machines where the operator rides along with the cutting head
09:18 AM unterhaus: someone asked me to be an expert witness on a crash of a very large giddings machine where the operator died
09:18 AM unterhaus: I demurred
09:20 AM Tom_L: same importance but the cost is different
09:21 AM Tom_L: 2nd shift crashes the machine my kid runs alot more than i have ever crashed mine and it's a multi million dollar gantry
09:25 AM Tom_L: i tend to think most crashes are operator, not control related
09:30 AM unterhaus: true
09:31 AM unterhaus: and the computer is one of the least important parts of the system as long as it can keep up
09:32 AM Tom_L: ALL the crashes he's told me about were operator
09:44 AM Loetmichel: BAH! Military customers... just got a laserprinter back for "warranty repair" . No error description. Checked it: all 4 toners empty. Replaced them: Prints absolutely fine. I HATE them!
09:48 AM unterhaus: you gotta price "warranty" into the original sale
09:48 AM unterhaus: I say this as a former military customer
09:49 AM roycroft: consumables are almost always excluded from warrantees
09:50 AM Loetmichel: unterhaus: they will be billed for it. and as i know my boss probably about 20 times what i get and what the cartridges had cost us.
09:50 AM Loetmichel: still irks me that
09:50 AM Loetmichel: Still irks me that there are soldiers to dumb to call the manufacturer when a problem arises before sending it off for "repair"... i dont even require them to be intelligent enough to read the "materials empty" text on the printers display, but a call would have those two hours wasted about 5 minutes on the phone and another 2 for ordering replacement toner to them directly
09:51 AM unterhaus: surprising they don't have anyone around to handle things like that
10:03 AM roycroft: you folks should go read one of the copier technician forums some time
10:04 AM roycroft: think hard and imagine the stupidest thing a copy/printer user could possibly do or say
10:04 AM roycroft: and you'll see daily stories of people doing/saying things 10x as dumb as you can imagine
10:05 AM Loetmichel: roycroft: i work in this company that makes tempest-safe IT/periperials for 11++ years now. Believe me i know the stupidity.
10:05 AM roycroft: yes, i'm sure you have experience some things that make you want to tear your hair out
10:06 AM Loetmichel: yep. that. A lot of that actually
10:06 AM Loetmichel: sometimes you want to despair at how much stupidity humanity can suffer.
10:14 AM roycroft: it is smokey again today
10:14 AM roycroft: when i ordered that fresh air respirator i should have ordered a hepa filter for it
10:14 AM roycroft: i could putit outside with the hepa filter and breathe smoke-free air through it
10:31 AM roycroft: speaking of tearing hair out
10:31 AM roycroft: email from boss: "i need you to restore a website that you took down a few years ago"
10:32 AM roycroft: me: "there is no archive of that website, sorry"
10:32 AM roycroft: boss: "well i need it restored - you should have archived it when you took it down"
10:33 AM roycroft: so i forwarded him the email exchange from six years ago when he told me to take it down and explicitly told me not to archive it
10:33 AM roycroft: and my telling him it's no big deal to archive it, and that i archive all websites when i take them down
10:33 AM roycroft: and his response reiterating that i am absolutely not to archive it, as it will never be used again
10:34 AM roycroft: unfortunately this is one of the few cases where i was given an order like that and did not disobey the order
10:35 AM roycroft: my boss tends to be impetuous
10:35 AM roycroft: something about that website must have pissed him off when he told me to take it offline
10:38 AM CloudEvil: Yay for logs
10:46 AM roycroft: when one works for an irrational person, covering one's tracks is of paramount importance
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10:52 AM CloudEvil: I assume archive.org did nothign?
10:55 AM unterhaus: I have always done what my boss should want instead of what they said they wanted
10:55 AM unterhaus: Never burned me. I used to work for a person that was so irrational that I thought they had multiple personalities
10:56 AM unterhaus: If you did what they said and it wasn't a good idea, you might be in trouble the next day or even in a couple of hours
10:58 AM roycroft: it was a database-driven site
10:58 AM roycroft: archive.org would not have been able to archive it
10:58 AM roycroft: i almost always archive deleted email accounts/websites even when my boss tells me not to
10:59 AM roycroft: this was one of the few cases where he made a really big deal about not doing so
10:59 AM roycroft: he usually just says "delete website foo.com, and don't archive it"
10:59 AM roycroft: and i archive it and delete it
11:00 AM roycroft: i should point out that virtually no other hosting provider archives any content that is deleted
11:00 AM roycroft: we're rather unique in that
11:01 AM roycroft: you can't go to any major hosting provider and say "hey - we hosted a website with you several years ago, and we need a copy of that site - would you please send us a tarball?
11:01 AM roycroft: "
11:01 AM roycroft: well, you can
11:01 AM roycroft: but most likely they won't even bother responding
11:03 AM roycroft: i tell 100% of our customers, when i provision services for them, that while we perform filesystem backups and can recover from catastrophic hardware failure, the customer is responsible for any archival backup of their data that they wish to have
11:04 AM roycroft: i tell them about making backups before making any major changes to their websites
11:04 AM roycroft: approximately 0% of them do that
11:05 AM roycroft: and i still regularly restore backups of websites
11:05 AM roycroft: the backups i tell them we don't have
11:59 AM unterhaus: This was a website you hosted and then the owner dropped your service? I think the tarball would cost as much as maintaining service would have in that case
12:07 PM CloudEvil: dead storage can be way cheaper
12:18 PM roycroft: the owner of the website is my boss
12:19 PM roycroft: and he explicitly told me not to archive it
12:19 PM roycroft: more emphatically than he usually tells me not to archive things
12:19 PM roycroft: now he wants it back, six years later
12:19 PM unterhaus: okay, then it's not worth as much money :)
12:20 PM roycroft: i keep backups for 2 months
12:20 PM roycroft: i archive most websites/email accounts indefinitely
12:20 PM roycroft: unless i am directly and belligerently ordered not to archive the data, which was the case here
12:21 PM roycroft: so if you ever host a website with us and you drop the hosting service, i make a tarball of your website files and database and put it on our archive server
12:21 PM roycroft: and i leave it there indefinitely
12:21 PM roycroft: if we ever run short on disk on the archive server i'll consider purging some of the really old stuff
12:22 PM roycroft: but the archive server is a nas, and there's a lot of disk onit
12:22 PM roycroft: we've had some government accounts that require retaining the data for a period of years
12:22 PM roycroft: they've asked us to destroy the data after the retention period has expired
12:23 PM roycroft: those are really the only cases where i've purged archived data like that
12:42 PM roycroft: i was looking at some extrusions for my router
12:43 PM roycroft: buying direct from 8020.net they are about $110 each
12:43 PM roycroft: buying on ebay i see prices starting at $180 for the same thing
12:43 PM roycroft: i think i'll not buy on ebay, unless 8020.net charge a whole lot more than they should for shipping
12:46 PM unterhaus: have you looked at misumi?
12:46 PM unterhaus: they give discounts sometimes, but the only one I know for sure is for educational users
12:47 PM unterhaus: many nice things about misumi
12:48 PM roycroft: i haven't
12:48 PM roycroft: i'm in the early design stage right now
12:48 PM roycroft: trying to get a rough idea of the design and making a rough budget
01:09 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i can get 8020 from a local electrical disti, no shipping and a 5 minute drive
01:10 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Fastenal also handles 8020
01:12 PM roycroft: yes, but everything from fastenal comes with a big bucket of customer abuse, which the customer cannot reject
01:12 PM roycroft: i'm not nearly ready to buy anything at this point
01:12 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i catch my fastenal off guard
01:13 PM roycroft: and 80/20 have an ebay store where they sell surplus/offcuts and the like
01:13 PM roycroft: i might find something there for a good price when the time to purchase arrives
01:13 PM roycroft: or i may use some completely different brand extrusions
01:13 PM CaptHindsight[m]: they usually offer to come by my place to check my stock of fasteners
01:13 PM roycroft: 80/20 is nice because i have solidworks files for every product they make
01:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: i tell them that i know how to count and still can see when a box or bin is empty
01:14 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but thanks anyway
01:14 PM roycroft: i used to buy all my fasteners from eugene fastener
01:14 PM roycroft: they are local, have been in business forever, and carry us-made fasteners
01:15 PM roycroft: but then the pandemic hit
01:15 PM roycroft: and they closed their store to the general public
01:15 PM roycroft: that's fine
01:15 PM roycroft: i have a business account with them
01:15 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I use a non ferrus blade like this for t-slot https://www.amazon.com/Freud-Thick-Non-Ferrous-Metal-LU89M012/dp/B00004T7AB
01:15 PM roycroft: they informed me that there's now a $500/month minimum for business accounts
01:15 PM roycroft: so now i buy almost all my fasteners from mcmaster
01:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Check the Grainger website for fasteners on close out or overstock
01:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: they are often $1/box
01:17 PM roycroft: a negative rake blade makes cutting non-ferrous metals work a lot better
01:17 PM roycroft: grainger won't sell to me
01:24 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/power-saws/miter/12-in-dual-bevel-sliding-compound-miter-saw-with-laser-guide-system-61969.html got this 10 years ago for <$100, still works great with those non-ferrous blades
01:37 PM roycroft: i usually use my band saw for cutting aluminium
01:38 PM roycroft: for plate i use my table saw
01:39 PM roycroft: and when i cut aluminium on the table saw, i put in some earplugs and then i use earmuffs over them
01:39 PM roycroft: and it's still incredibly loud
01:44 PM JT-Shop: wow the DRO board is in stock and ships out today from TN
01:45 PM roycroft: good news
01:46 PM roycroft: too bad they did not ship it to you two weeks ago
01:47 PM JT-Shop: I wished they would have sent it 3 months ago when it stopped working instead of waiting for the wrong board to arrive from China :(
02:23 PM roycroft: i was using syncthing to try to keep my files synchronized amongst my computers, but i had a lot of quirky issues with it
02:23 PM roycroft: we use nextcloud at work for that kind of stuff, plus for sending out secure links to documents to customers, so i thought i'd try that for my own stuff
02:23 PM roycroft: it seems to work a lot better than syncthing, but it's really really slow on the initial sync
02:24 PM roycroft: it turns out it does an https put to the nextcloud server for every file, and waits until the file is transferred before putting the next one
02:25 PM roycroft: i think it will be fine once the initial sync is done, but that's going to take days at the rate it's going
02:46 PM * JT-Shop takes 5
02:47 PM JT-Shop: I was interested in sync for my pc's but not with a cloud
02:48 PM roycroft: i have a local install of nextcloud
02:49 PM roycroft: it's on a virtual machine, and nfs mounts the data filesystem from my nas
02:50 PM roycroft: the nas replicates to another local nas automatically, and i push critical files from the replication nas to an offsite data storage nightly
02:50 PM roycroft: the stuff i push offsite is encrypted, and the data are already encrypted on the nas
02:50 PM roycroft: so it's a pretty robust and safe setup
02:58 PM roycroft: a year or so ago i moved all my active files to directory hierarchy on my desktop, and set up syncing that on all my workstations
02:58 PM roycroft: it's been an amazing improvement
02:59 PM roycroft: i used to have to run sync software on my machines on a regular basis, and i could olny sync them in pairs
02:59 PM roycroft: i have four workstations that i use, which means i'd have to run the sync software four times to get everything the same
02:59 PM roycroft: now it just happens, in almost real time
03:00 PM roycroft: and with my portable devices, it happens remotely as long as i bring up a vpn tunnel to home
03:00 PM roycroft: i'm expanding that to all my data stores, not just the active projects
03:06 PM JT-Shop: vpp;
03:06 PM JT-Shop: cool
03:08 PM JT-Shop: my buddy that lives in Kenner LA returned home today to power and water, condo next to his the roof caved in!
03:09 PM roycroft: yikes
03:09 PM roycroft: i did not know hurricanes were selective like tornados are
03:10 PM CloudEvil: Construction stabily varies wildly
03:10 PM roycroft: and condos are notorious for being very poorly constructed and maintained
03:11 PM JT-Shop: I'm guessing a tree or three was involved
03:11 PM roycroft: or maybe a airborne alligator
03:12 PM roycroft: that would be more of a torado-driven event though
03:17 PM roycroft: my county has had 249 deaths from covid-19 since the pandemic began
03:17 PM roycroft: 45 of those within the past 30 days
03:17 PM roycroft: every one of those 45 were unvaccinated people
03:17 PM roycroft: if you haven't, get the jab and get it now
03:18 PM * roycroft turned on the radio to that depressing news
03:22 PM unterhaus: i'm just hoping football games don't spread it, because we are just going back to the old norm
03:22 PM roycroft: they will
03:22 PM roycroft: i hate to say that, but it will happen
03:22 PM unterhaus: the game itself doesn't, I think, but the parties and restaurants and carpooling does
03:23 PM roycroft: both oregon state university and the university of oregon require proof of vaccination or a negative test not more than 48 hours old for entry to their respective stadiums
03:23 PM unterhaus: the only example of a game that spread it was in italy, and everybody showed up in busses
03:23 PM roycroft: but it's still going to be a problem
03:24 PM unterhaus: I was really surprised that Va tech requires vaxx, Penn State doesn't, which isn't surprising
03:25 PM unterhaus: I'm avoiding people until monday
04:51 PM JT-Shop: my brother in Reserve LA just got power back
04:53 PM Tom_L: what's it been? more than a week..
04:54 PM Tom_L: longest i can recall being out was ~14 days during an ice storm
04:55 PM JT-Shop: yeah he lost power 8-29
04:55 PM unterhaus: ours was out for a week for an ice storm and it's a good thing we could go to the gym
04:56 PM unterhaus: it gets pretty tiresome quickly
04:58 PM * JT-Shop puts his socks and shoes back on and goes to be a chicken ferry
05:00 PM * Tom_L checks for holes in JT-Shop's shoes after yesterday
05:02 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/ice/12.jpg
05:02 PM Tom_L: quite a while back now but it caused alot of outtages
05:13 PM * JT-Shop threw them out
05:14 PM Tom_L: heh
05:14 PM JT-Shop: they were worn out anyway
05:17 PM Tom_L: so they've got my kid in another department until they can fix his machines. the other day something happened that caused a wire bundle to get severed
05:17 PM JT-Shop: opps
05:17 PM Tom_L: the maintenance dept "fixed" it to power it up with single phase to the spindle motor and blew it up
05:18 PM JT-Shop: night shift?
05:18 PM Tom_L: yep
05:18 PM Tom_L: they've put about 6-800k in them and neither one works yet
05:19 PM Tom_L: they just put a new spindle on one and can't get it to work
05:19 PM Tom_L: (they've got 2 identical gantrys)
05:19 PM JT-Shop: wow
05:19 PM Tom_L: yesterday he was unloading material from trucks
05:20 PM Tom_L: today he was running something else in another dept
05:20 PM Tom_L: biggest problem is they don't hire competent help
05:21 PM Tom_L: he gets alot of shit from them because he's half their age and the youngest employee in the company
05:22 PM Tom_L: but he's the only one allowed to run those on 1st shift
05:23 PM JT-Shop: who made the machines?
05:23 PM Tom_L: they're german machines
05:23 PM Tom_L: zimmerman
05:23 PM JT-Shop: I've heard of them
05:23 PM Tom_L: they sent one guy over for training and he doesn't know shit
05:23 PM Tom_L: 300" x axis
05:24 PM Tom_L: dunno if it's true or not but i was told they're the only 2 in the US
05:24 PM JT-Shop: that's big
05:25 PM Tom_L: all the parts are crane loaded
05:26 PM Tom_L: siemens control
05:27 PM JT-Shop: sounds like a FZ35 with 8,000mm lenght
05:28 PM JT-Shop: https://www.f-zimmermann.com/en/gantry-machines/fz30fz35/
05:28 PM * JT-Shop wanders out to the other shop to work on the giraffe shelves
05:29 PM Tom_L: https://www.f-zimmermann.com/fileadmin/_processed_/4/7/csm_FZP32_Teaser_35c213fbea.jpg
05:30 PM XXCoder: big
05:31 PM XXCoder: Tom_L: sounds like theyre being cheap on hiring so people is refusing to work there :(
05:31 PM XXCoder: it can be death of shop if its too much
05:31 PM Tom_L: i know the bed is 2 pieces that have to be lasered in with each other
05:33 PM Tom_L: they had to do that to one of them here a while back
05:37 PM roycroft: i am finally printing ballot envelopes
05:37 PM roycroft: after more database issues
05:37 PM Tom_L: spreadsheet was the answer... :)
05:38 PM roycroft: no, it was the problem
05:38 PM Tom_L: i know
05:38 PM roycroft: the spreadsheet messed up the database export
05:38 PM roycroft: i fixed the problem with a rather messy looking awk script
05:39 PM Tom_L: i had one i had to use some off the wall delimiter to get it all
05:39 PM roycroft: this was supposed to be pretty straightforward
05:39 PM roycroft: comma delimited, all fields enclosed by quotes
05:39 PM roycroft: but it did not work out that way
05:40 PM Tom_L: things like O'mally etc would throw it off
05:40 PM Tom_L: there were some that used quotes in the field
05:40 PM roycroft: null fields (like middle name), and fields with odd characters such as fractions messed it up
05:41 PM roycroft: i already fixed the apostrophe issue
05:41 PM roycroft: that was one of the first things i had to clean up
05:41 PM roycroft: then there's the issue of the database not accepting entries with null last names
05:41 PM roycroft: but being a hippie fest, there are a lot of people without last names
05:41 PM Tom_L: and since it was going to mysql the "/" had to be fixed
05:41 PM Tom_L: fractions...
05:42 PM roycroft: so they added a ! where there was no last name
05:42 PM roycroft: all this could be avoided
05:42 PM Tom_L: leave it to a hippie to buck the system :)
05:43 PM roycroft: i've already primed them for letting me run the database against the usps validator next year
05:43 PM roycroft: it will cost us about $350, but it will clean up all the addresses
05:44 PM roycroft: anyway, i'm doing a batch of 500 right now
05:44 PM roycroft: i have other things to do today, but i want to get a good start on thhis
05:45 PM roycroft: i need to print about 1000/day
05:45 PM roycroft: my printer docs say i can only stack 10 envelopes at a time in the bypass tray, but i'm up to 25 at a time with no jams
05:46 PM roycroft: that's going to save heaps of time
05:47 PM roycroft: when it runs out of paper it takes about 10 seconds for the printer to drop the feeder down so i can reload, and then another 10 seconds or so before it starts printing again
05:51 PM roycroft: it looks like i can print about 450/hour
05:51 PM roycroft: not as fast as i'd like, but pretty much what i predicted
05:51 PM roycroft: evelopes have to print very slowly
06:00 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/top-shelves-01.jpg
06:04 PM JT-Shop: low tonight 55°F and for you metric fans 12.7778°C
06:04 PM Tom_L: i've got a smaller version in my garage
06:04 PM Tom_L: looks nice
06:04 PM JT-Shop: thanks
06:04 PM Tom_L: you may end up pulling the roof down!
06:05 PM JT-Shop: I did a similar thing in my partners shop but used all thread cause he had a bunch
06:06 PM Tom_L: is that the wood shop?
06:07 PM XXCoder: nice job
06:08 PM JT-Shop: wood, fabrication, maintenance, storage... you name it lol
06:08 PM XXCoder: its everythingshop
06:08 PM JT-Shop: yup
06:08 PM Tom_L: your most recent building
06:08 PM JT-Shop: aye
06:08 PM Tom_L: other than coups
06:08 PM Tom_L: coops?
06:08 PM JT-Shop: and everything is on wheels or can be moved with a pallet jack
06:08 PM JT-Shop: no coops
06:09 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Coup d'état
06:09 PM Tom_L: errr palace
06:10 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah, it's near fall like weather here at night
06:10 PM CaptHindsight[m]: low 50's
06:10 PM Tom_L: it was nice here today
06:10 PM Tom_L: mild
06:11 PM Tom_L: 95 tomorrow
06:11 PM JT-Shop: not bad here either but a warm spell coming from Tom
06:11 PM Tom_L: 98 sat
06:12 PM Tom_L: we were gonna stay longer but threats of another hurricane building in the gulf sent us home a couple days early
06:12 PM Tom_L: don't like driving in lots of rain
06:12 PM JT-Shop: me neither
06:14 PM JT-Shop: especially on a bike
06:16 PM roycroft: what is this "rain" of which you speak?
06:17 PM * roycroft has a distant memory of people using that word, but that was in the before times
06:17 PM XXCoder: roy my car is now smuged with dust and ashes. may be traces of that "rain" thing they keep talking about
06:17 PM XXCoder: looks like water spray pattern all over, from overhead
06:18 PM roycroft: i'm right at the end of my first run of envelopes, and the printer is really slowing down
06:18 PM roycroft: i think batches of 500 is what i need to do - more than that in a single go might be too much for the printer
06:19 PM roycroft: done for now
06:19 PM roycroft: another batch or two after dinner, and i'll be off to a good start
06:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: small ponds and streams around here are all dried up this summer
06:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: rains for a few minutes every other week or so, haven't seen this type of drought around here ever
06:58 PM solarwind: Aahhhhh dressing wire brush wheels on the surface of cheap old bench grinder wheels is so satisfying
06:59 PM solarwind: All the bristles line up perfectly and develop a nice sharp edge that is very effective yet doesn't snag on anything
07:00 PM solarwind: 5/8-11 angle grinder accessories are so annoying. They never sit true to the axis of the spindle, especially the large type 11 cup wheels
07:01 PM solarwind: 7/8" arbor never gives me a problem and works well with the flanges
09:00 PM CaptHindsight[m]: solarwind: happy to hear that you are so easily pleased
09:07 PM solarwind: CaptHindsight[m] a good quality tool is all I need
09:08 PM solarwind: A well lubricated, smooth running machine with low vibration
09:08 PM solarwind: That's why I spend the $400 on the Metabo WEPBA angle grinders with the autobalancer bearing
09:12 PM mrec_: hmm, candle cnc works with grbl, does anyone know about linuxcncrsh?
09:13 PM mrec_: I wonder if candle cnc could be bridged to linuxcnc with linuxcncrsh
09:15 PM roycroft: awesome
09:15 PM roycroft: i just got nagios set up to monitor my printer and send me an email when i need to feed it more envelopes
09:15 PM roycroft: now i don't have to sit in the printer room all night babysitting the job
09:24 PM snakedGT is now known as snaked
10:35 PM TurBoss: awsome
10:39 PM JavaBean- is now known as JavaBean
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