#linuxcnc Logs

Aug 13 2021

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12:24 AM miss0r2: morning
01:00 AM Deejay: moin
01:20 AM randy: morning
01:23 AM Rhine_Labs: dee and rand
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04:01 AM Tom_L: morning
04:06 AM XXCoder: yo
05:09 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:11 AM XXCoder: yo
05:17 AM miss0r2: JT-Cave: I build us a new kitchen. This is what I managed in two weeks of "vacation" https://imgur.com/a/XMRMr8E
05:18 AM miss0r2: And the last cabinet doors and drawer fronts will be delievered in mid september.. *sigh*
05:21 AM JT-Cave: very nice
05:23 AM miss0r2: so now finaly I have the kitchen table space to own an expresso maker. (I got one for my birthday :D )
05:23 AM miss0r2: this kitchen was a small one, only in the little room I opened up to, so very small
05:26 AM miss0r2: JT-Cave: Would you happen to know a rule of thumb about how much misalignment/wobble of a pulley wheel is "allowed" using v-belts?
05:29 AM JT-Cave: I just try and get them perfect
05:30 AM miss0r2: yeah me too
05:31 AM miss0r2: but I have three pulleys on the 101" land rover. One I had to make a spacer for to allow for a new setup.
05:31 AM miss0r2: It is not aprox 0.15mm further "forward" than the two others.
05:31 AM miss0r2: not=now
05:32 AM miss0r2: Which I would assume would be fine. But it just ate through a brand new belt after 300km to a point where the generator bracket does not allow for more tightening
05:32 AM miss0r2: Is this to be expected with said tolerance? (Theres aprox 350mm between the pulley wheels)
05:35 AM JT-Cave: 0.15mm is not much, for example mowers move the deck up and down several inches and they have v belt drive
05:36 AM miss0r2: what the hell is eating this belt then ?!
05:36 AM * miss0r2 is puzzled :D
05:38 AM JT-Cave: is the belt frayed in some area?
05:44 AM miss0r2: nope
05:44 AM miss0r2: More like its done 10000miles
05:45 AM miss0r2: no particular frayed points. its just worn to a point where it sits too deep in the wheels
05:49 AM JT-Cave: odd
05:50 AM JT-Cave: my drum sander went down in June the replacement part is due to ship next week
06:21 AM JT-Cave: any pitting on the pulleys due to rust?
06:58 AM miss0r2: JT-Cave: Nothing out of the ordinary
06:58 AM miss0r2: a few micro pits. that is it
07:44 AM JavaBean: are they still straight to one another? i had a similar problem with a swamp cooler when the motor wasn't mounted square, the pulleys were at an angle in relation to each other and the setup ate a belt in 2 weeks. when i replaced the belt i noticed and fixed/squared/"made the pulley's straight to each other" and it has been running 2 years since
08:58 AM perry_j1987: morning
10:33 AM Centurion_Dan1 is now known as Centurion_Dan
10:35 AM perry_j1987: quiet this morning
10:48 AM MrHindsight[m]: https://streamable.com/9yu0a4
10:48 AM MrHindsight[m]: Remora over ethernet!
10:49 AM Roguish: what's Remora ???
10:49 AM MrHindsight[m]: LCNC using Rpi and STM32 for stepping, Ethernet between Rpi and STM32 board
10:50 AM MrHindsight[m]: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/18-computer/42276-remora-rpi-software-stepping-using-external-microcontroller-via-spi?start=0
10:53 AM Roguish: ok
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12:12 PM JT-Cave: we just got an inch of rain
12:37 PM Contract_Pilot: We got Smoke..
12:38 PM unterhaus: what is that hardware running remora?
12:39 PM unterhaus: doesn't look like a smoothie
12:55 PM MrHindsight[m]: yup, no smoothie :)
12:55 PM MrHindsight[m]: runs on several STM32 boards
12:57 PM MrHindsight[m]: https://github.com/mhelmarc/Jaqueza-NC
01:16 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:26 PM Tom_L: tgif
01:27 PM unterhaus: that's just lovely, freecad ate my drawing
01:38 PM unterhaus: damage not too bad
01:40 PM JT-Shop: I called the week done about 11am
01:40 PM Tom_L: i called it when i walked in the door and finished lunch
01:57 PM perry_j1987: afternoon
01:57 PM perry_j1987: was going to ride the moped over to the shop but its leaking gas from the bowl drain
01:57 PM perry_j1987: figured the float valve wasnt seating so cleaned that and back together... nope still leaking
01:58 PM perry_j1987: good thing i always shut off the fuel supply after every ride lol
02:38 PM Roguish: JT-Shop, hey send some rain out here.........
02:38 PM Roguish: no, wait don't, then more people would come here....
03:52 PM roycroft: hi folks
03:52 PM * roycroft is home, and both happy and sad to be home
03:58 PM CloudEvil: :) :(
04:04 PM roycroft: it's hotter than blazes here
04:04 PM roycroft: and it was so nice and cool on the coast
04:04 PM roycroft: but it was time to leave - it's been hazy, and this morning it was a little smokey
04:05 PM roycroft: plus, campfires are banned in all of southern oregon starting today
04:09 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/wood-working/saw-stop/saw-cabinet-21.jpg
04:10 PM JT-Shop: next drill the holes for the screws
04:10 PM JT-Shop: wb
04:10 PM Tom_L: oooo sexy!
04:11 PM JT-Shop: :)
04:12 PM Tom_L: how did you end up thinning the walnut?
04:15 PM roycroft: nice
04:15 PM roycroft: i see you like my design :)
04:25 PM JT-Shop: yes, I just thinned the ends a bit
04:25 PM JT-Shop: I cut the walnut on the table saw
04:53 PM XXCoder: smokey hellscope season is starting
04:53 PM XXCoder: fun
05:31 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/wood-working/saw-stop/saw-cabinet-22.jpg
05:31 PM JT-Shop: getting close
05:32 PM XXCoder: looking fantasic. even better when its stained or something
05:40 PM roycroft: it's getting smokey here in eugene now
05:40 PM roycroft: but i'd rather have 17 degrees and smokey than 37 degrees and smokey
05:41 PM XXCoder: yep smokey here now
05:41 PM JT-Shop: I think I'll use tried & true varnish oil on the whole thing
05:42 PM roycroft: i just bought another can of that
05:43 PM roycroft: i like the walnut accent strips you put in those drawer pulls
05:43 PM * JT-Shop needs to get the ladder out and remove the tarps over the raised beds... thunderstorms tonight
05:43 PM JT-Shop: thanks
05:43 PM roycroft: that's really gonna pop when you apply the oil
05:43 PM JT-Shop: that's what I'm hoping for
05:44 PM XXCoder: yep
05:44 PM roycroft: did you wipe them down with alcohol yet to get a sneak peek?
05:45 PM XXCoder: probably good idea to rise any fibers to sand down
05:45 PM XXCoder: normally water is better though for that
05:46 PM roycroft: no need to raise the grain unless a water-based finish will be applied
05:46 PM XXCoder: oil dont cause that reaction too? interesting
05:46 PM roycroft: and tried & true varnish oil is not water-based at all
05:46 PM roycroft: no, it's just water that raises the grain
05:47 PM roycroft: but a solvent wipedown does remove the remaining dust, as well as giving a preview of what the finish will look like
05:48 PM roycroft: i like alcohol for that because it's cheap, relative non-toxic for a solvent, and evaporates almost instantly
05:49 PM roycroft: a lot of folks use mineral oil, which is fine, but it takes a lot longer to evaporate
05:51 PM roycroft: btw, denatured alcohol (methylates spirits for you folks on the other side of the pond) is great for removing pencil marks from wood - no trying to erase them or sanding them off
05:52 PM roycroft: methylated, rather
05:54 PM JT-Shop: I'm still finish sanding them...
05:54 PM JT-Shop: but I'll do the alcohol for sure
05:54 PM JT-Shop: I have 5 gallons of 99% pure
05:54 PM XXCoder: roy nice
06:16 PM roycroft: probably 95% pure
06:16 PM roycroft: it's almost impossible to purify ethanol beyond 95%
06:18 PM roycroft: only the highest grade lab reagents are greater than 95%, and they have to be stored carefully - ethanol is hygroscopic and will absorb water readily if exposed to air
06:18 PM XXCoder: im sure its 99% in bottle as long as its sealed
06:18 PM XXCoder: i wonder if can use it as air dryer
06:19 PM XXCoder: would need to be carefully managed so ipa dont go outside system though lol
06:19 PM XXCoder: and i'd have explosion and fire risk lol so wondering in teorical basis only
06:19 PM roycroft: it's only 99% in the bottle if he paid a heck of a lot of money for the bottle
06:19 PM roycroft: especially since he said he has 5 gallons
06:20 PM XXCoder: odd because my bro has 99% bottle for few bucks
06:20 PM roycroft: there's a reason that everclear and the like are 190 proof, not 200 proof
06:20 PM roycroft: ethanol takes on 5% water from the air almost instantly
06:21 PM roycroft: distillation cannot produce greater than 95% ethanol
06:21 PM XXCoder: if you bubble air though it, would it completely dry air?
06:21 PM roycroft: to get it more pure than that other types of reactions are needed, and while i don't know them offhand, i know they're really expensive
06:22 PM roycroft: other alcohols are not necessarily as hygroscopic as ethanol
06:22 PM XXCoder: ok
06:24 PM roycroft: look up what an azeotrope is
08:42 PM Tom_L: ok, transferred my mill configs to the rpi and updated it to the latest 2.8.2-21 .deb
08:43 PM Tom_L: bench test passed
08:43 PM CloudEvil: :)
08:51 PM Tom_L: it's a backup
09:21 PM roycroft: blah
09:21 PM roycroft: the updated forecast calls for a high of 37 tomorrow
09:21 PM roycroft: and more smoke
09:22 PM roycroft: i was going to start work on my mill tomorrow, but i don't think i want to open the garage door
09:23 PM roycroft: instead, i'll probably turn the ac on early in the morning and try to keep the shop from getting too hot
09:25 PM roycroft: i have to sort and organize my camping gear and stash it in the attic tomorrow
09:25 PM roycroft: it's cluttering up the shop right now
09:25 PM roycroft: so i guess i deal with hot no matter what
09:27 PM XXCoder: or you could make a ac suit
09:27 PM XXCoder: get a painter suit, add hole in back and have hose to ac machine
09:27 PM roycroft: that would make it hard to work
09:28 PM roycroft: i need to crawl around on the ground and stuff while working on the mill
09:30 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2nTHYdGSm4
09:30 PM XXCoder: he used the suit lol though he ended up never actually doing any work at all
09:33 PM roycroft: yeah, that would not work for doing anything except standing around
09:34 PM XXCoder: likely would work for sanding bus like he orginially planned to
09:35 PM roycroft: i have ac in the shop
09:36 PM roycroft: the issue is that to do this work i need to move some machines outside
09:36 PM roycroft: like my band saw, thicknesser, and jointer, at the very least
09:36 PM roycroft: possibly the bench sanders, drum sander, and possibly table saw as well
09:36 PM roycroft: so to do that i need to open the door, and let all the cool air out
09:37 PM Tom_L: solution: bigger shop.
09:37 PM roycroft: i may be able to move everything outside early in the morning, before it gets hot, do the work on the mill, then move everything back in at the end of the day
09:37 PM roycroft: a bigger shop would be nice
09:38 PM roycroft: i'm really starting to want to move to the coast
09:38 PM roycroft: but that's pretty much impossible
09:38 PM roycroft: even if i were rich, houses are selling within minutes after being listed
09:38 PM roycroft: the real estate market is insane
09:38 PM Tom_L: yup
09:39 PM Tom_L: not a local issue
09:40 PM roycroft: no, not at all
09:41 PM roycroft: it's a pandemic issue
09:41 PM roycroft: as people are working from home full-time, they have a lot more flexibility to live wherever they want
09:41 PM XXCoder: roy yeah housing is nuts in some areas
09:42 PM XXCoder: like where i live at :(
09:42 PM roycroft: pretty much everywhere, xxcoder
09:42 PM roycroft: but moreso in rural areas
09:42 PM roycroft: the other pandemic effect is that people do not want to live close to a lot of other people any more
09:42 PM roycroft: but it's been kind of crazy in washington for a long time
09:43 PM XXCoder: i still remembenr moldy house sold for million in seattle
09:43 PM perry_j1987: evening
09:43 PM roycroft: when i moved down to eugene there were already lots of people communting from wenatchee to seattle every day
09:43 PM perry_j1987: wow wenatchee to seattle commute
09:44 PM perry_j1987: i thought mine was bad from key peninsula to gig harbor or tacoma back in the day
09:46 PM roycroft: it's not only a fairly long drive, snoqualmie pass gets some pretty severe weather in the winter
09:46 PM XXCoder: i hope remote work becomes standard
09:46 PM roycroft: it's the lowest of the major passes in the state, and it has a long snow tunnel, but it still closes down frequently
09:47 PM XXCoder: because covid arent going away anytime soon
09:47 PM roycroft: i think work from home is here to stay
09:47 PM roycroft: even post-pandemic
09:47 PM XXCoder: my bro just got info from his work that it will be hyrid from now on after certain date
09:47 PM XXCoder: meaning half days at work and half at home
09:48 PM roycroft: maybe
09:48 PM roycroft: that might not happen for a while
09:48 PM XXCoder: yeah he works for goverment
09:48 PM roycroft: our governor reinstated the mask mandate effective today
09:48 PM XXCoder: which actually cares more on employees than many companies
09:48 PM roycroft: and it's effective indefinitely
09:48 PM Thorhian: Lol I stepped into a political conversation.
09:48 PM XXCoder: when is virus poltiical?
09:48 PM roycroft: no, we're talking about real estate
09:48 PM Thorhian: XD
09:49 PM XXCoder: and yeah estate
09:49 PM roycroft: but xxcoder is correct - public health should not be political
09:50 PM Thorhian: I mean, I sort of agree, but it does end up political when policy is made.
09:50 PM roycroft: we were discussing the hot housing market, and how people are moving to rural areas
09:50 PM XXCoder: i get sad when i saw one doctor get politicized and say that virus is only spread by vaccined. huh?
09:50 PM Thorhian: XD
09:50 PM XXCoder: so there was magical vaccined people before vaccine existed
09:50 PM roycroft: and that this was precipitated in large part by the pandemic, and people working from home
09:51 PM XXCoder: anyway yeah last couple weeks is bad so far :(
09:51 PM Thorhian: I mean, I've never wanted to live in a big city. I'd rather live in a more rural area rather than densly populated areas.
09:51 PM roycroft: i want to live near a decent size city
09:52 PM roycroft: but not in one
09:52 PM roycroft: i was pondering this during my camping trip
09:52 PM roycroft: i really love that part of the coast, but there's just no facilities to speak of
09:53 PM roycroft: i mean, not only is it a several hour drive one way to get decent materials for making the stuff i make, it's a 2+ hour drive just to get to a decent grocery store
09:53 PM roycroft: there's no cinema
09:53 PM roycroft: no theatre
09:53 PM Thorhian: I don't mind smaller cities, but places like New York, San Fran, LA, and SLC are kind of no-go places for where I want to live or live too near.
09:53 PM roycroft: all that stuff is hours and hours away
09:53 PM Tom_L: things are just blocks away here :)
09:53 PM roycroft: somewhere like lincoln city, on the north coast, would be nice
09:54 PM roycroft: it's a bit larger (but still <10,000 people), and has more facilities, and is just a bit over an hour from portland
09:55 PM roycroft: i would not mind driving to portland once/week for groceries that i cannot get locally, and once or twice/month to get materials
09:55 PM Thorhian: You couldn't pay me to live near Portland.
09:55 PM roycroft: and when i lived in bellingham, vancouver was an hour away, and seattle an hour and a half, and i went to concerts in both cities regularly
09:55 PM roycroft: that's a doable drive
09:55 PM roycroft: 4+ hours is not
09:56 PM roycroft: it turns an evening out into an overnight trip
09:56 PM XXCoder: get any average city roads, scamble it then thats portland road
09:56 PM XXCoder: some areas is good, but many of portland roads have issues
09:56 PM Thorhian: I prefer Idaho. :) I only go to Washington to visit family.
09:57 PM roycroft: idaho is a beautiful state, but it's way too rural and isolated for me
09:57 PM roycroft: and if i'm honest, i've met very few people from idaho that i'd want to be in the same room with for more than a few seconds
09:57 PM Thorhian: XD
09:57 PM XXCoder: smell?
09:57 PM roycroft: attitudes
09:58 PM XXCoder: heh yeah
09:58 PM Thorhian: Attitude?
09:58 PM roycroft: and as a good example, today i had three vehicles tailgate me and drive very aggressively and almost drove me off the road
09:58 PM roycroft: because i was driving at the posted speed limit
09:58 PM roycroft: all three were big pickups with idaho plates
09:59 PM Tom_L: don't go to Texas then :)
09:59 PM XXCoder: id avoid places where 50% of vehicles is trucks
09:59 PM roycroft: i've been to texas
09:59 PM roycroft: i know what the law is in texas
09:59 PM Thorhian: That's unfortunate. Where I live it isn't too bad. A lot better than Utah or California in my experience *shrug*
09:59 PM roycroft: people are required to drive 20 mph faster than the posted speed limit
09:59 PM XXCoder: much depends on people
09:59 PM roycroft: and the #1 rule is never, ever slow down
10:00 PM roycroft: in the dfw area the frontage roads are right next to the freeway, with no fences or barricades
10:00 PM Tom_L: you could in effect put it in neutral and wait for a push
10:00 PM Tom_L: and still get there on time
10:00 PM roycroft: when there's a traffic jam, people just dash over to the frontage road to avoid having to slow donw
10:00 PM Thorhian: I hate driving anywhere near Salt Lake City. It's a nightmare.
10:00 PM Tom_L: i've been there quite a few times
10:00 PM Tom_L: roycroft, or the ditch
10:00 PM roycroft: and in honesty, i think people are generally worse drivers when out of state
10:01 PM roycroft: either that, or the bad drivers are the ones who travel out of state the most
10:01 PM roycroft: when i lived in washington, seattle drivers used to make me crazy because they were polite to the point of being dangerous
10:02 PM roycroft: like if i were on the freeway, wanting to change lanes, i'd indicate, look for an opening, but then someone in the next lane would see me, smile, slam on the brakes, and wave me over
10:02 PM Tom_L: you get both frames of mind at an exit/entrance and that's trouble
10:02 PM Thorhian: I have had good and bad driver experiences in Seattle. However, there is just too much traffic.
10:02 PM roycroft: but while traffic was thick, people generally behaved decently
10:03 PM roycroft: now, in eugene, it's idaho plates and washington plates that are almost always the jerks
10:03 PM Thorhian: Where is Eugene?
10:03 PM roycroft: the ones speeding and cutting people off
10:03 PM Tom_L: texans behave for the most part they just do it 20-25mph faster
10:03 PM roycroft: they're worse than californians, even
10:03 PM roycroft: western oregon
10:03 PM Thorhian: Ah.
10:03 PM roycroft: texans do tend to behave decently when driving
10:04 PM roycroft: it's nerve-wracking having everyone go so fast
10:04 PM roycroft: but they don't cut people off and the like
10:04 PM roycroft: they tailgate too much, though
10:04 PM Thorhian: Just don't go to SLC or the highways going near it roy.
10:04 PM roycroft: i don't abide tailgating
10:04 PM roycroft: and i don't speed
10:04 PM roycroft: the posted speed limit is fine for me
10:05 PM roycroft: i don't care if you speed
10:05 PM JavaBean: or el paso or the highways near there either
10:05 PM roycroft: just don't do it behind me
10:05 PM roycroft: i always drive in the right lane unless i'm overtaking
10:05 PM roycroft: which, btw, is another problem with idahoans driving here
10:06 PM roycroft: the come up right behind me, like within a meter or two of my car, flip me off, honk their horn, but they don't overtake
10:06 PM roycroft: even when the left lane is clear
10:06 PM Thorhian: Lol, what the heck?
10:06 PM roycroft: it seems they're trying to force me to speed for some bizarre reason
10:06 PM XXCoder: roy had that on way back to home from calfornia
10:06 PM XXCoder: there was 4 empty lines, being 2 am in morning
10:07 PM XXCoder: im alone except for other car. guy was flashing lights
10:07 PM XXCoder: i slowly slowed down till I was at 50 mph (65 mph freeway) so guy finally went off and sped off
10:07 PM roycroft: i sometimes wave people around, and they just flip me off and continue with their aggressive tailgating
10:07 PM XXCoder: me, I give thumbs up with smile
10:08 PM roycroft: i won't do a brake check when people are that close, but i'll click off the cruise control sometimes
10:08 PM XXCoder: i tried to be nice but that pisses them off
10:08 PM Thorhian: I'm really glad I don't encounter people like this...
10:08 PM roycroft: i usually flash them the peace sign
10:08 PM roycroft: thorian: i think it has to do with being away from home
10:08 PM roycroft: some people, i believe, behave totally differently when they're travelling
10:08 PM XXCoder: roy yeah i dont do brake check. worse i do is slight randomness of speed
10:08 PM XXCoder: makes it impossibkle for them to follow, even if random +- 2 mph
10:09 PM Thorhian: I mean long drives do things to people's minds, but I don't flip people off, while driving or not.
10:09 PM roycroft: any time i slow down at all in any way when i'm being followed too closely i do so while staring in the rear view mirror, and prepared to accelerate if the following vehicle does not adjust its speed
10:09 PM JavaBean: who needs all that effort, xx... just drive a manual
10:09 PM XXCoder: more advanced is inverse, they get close, i slow down, they go futher back, i speed up. similiar speed difference range
10:09 PM XXCoder: third is well just simply slowing down slowly
10:10 PM Thorhian: Well, time for bed. I finally got on libera chat. Just haven't been on IRC ever since Freenode went down the toilet.
10:10 PM roycroft: a while back some guy was following me so closely he almost rear ended me
10:10 PM roycroft: this was on a country road, with a speed limit of 35mph
10:10 PM roycroft: i slowed down a tiny bit
10:10 PM roycroft: he backed off and then sped up again
10:10 PM roycroft: i slowed down a bit more
10:10 PM roycroft: while waving him around me
10:10 PM roycroft: he did not go around me
10:11 PM roycroft: so i slowed almost to a complete stop, over the course of several hundred yards
10:11 PM roycroft: he finally passed me
10:11 PM roycroft: he was screaming and shouting and flipping me off
10:11 PM roycroft: all of which i expected
10:11 PM XXCoder: some people just stress themselves out
10:11 PM Thorhian: I really feel like you have bad luck driving roycroft.
10:11 PM roycroft: but the, after he passed me, he drove at 15mph for several miles
10:11 PM roycroft: flipping me off the whole time
10:12 PM roycroft: i just laughed
10:12 PM roycroft: he was the one in the hurry
10:12 PM roycroft: and decided to teach me a lesson by slowing way down
10:12 PM roycroft: thorian: there's a lot of really aggressive driving around here
10:12 PM XXCoder: yeah theres always a few
10:12 PM JavaBean: when you have "wide open road" all around and someone does that, it is fun to slam into another lane and dig into your breaks and then speed up onto their tailgate and wail your horn back. everytime i have done that they pulled off
10:12 PM roycroft: and the accident rate and fatal accident rate have gone way up since the pandemic started
10:13 PM roycroft: javabean: i try not to do anything that might cause a wreck
10:13 PM roycroft: and i do not try to do anything to antagonize the other driver
10:14 PM roycroft: my *only* interest is being able to drive safely, which means in part not being followed too closely
10:14 PM JavaBean: that is why i said "wide open road"... i only EVER do that when it is just us
10:14 PM roycroft: i'm not vengeful
10:14 PM roycroft: i don't flip the other drivers off
10:14 PM roycroft: i mean yeah, when they get really nasty i flash them the peace sign
10:14 PM roycroft: because what else can i really do?
10:14 PM roycroft: and they're already as pissed off as they can possibly be, so i can't be making matters worse
10:15 PM roycroft: and thorian: part of my "bad luck" may be that i don't speed
10:15 PM JavaBean: if you raise their bloodpressure(anger levels) too high, they could heartattack or strokke
10:16 PM XXCoder: i used to see one truck on way home, and each time I see it, i say oh shit someones drunk and out again
10:16 PM roycroft: i don't try to block people and prevent them from speeding
10:16 PM roycroft: i just drive in the right lane at the posted speed limit
10:16 PM XXCoder: because each damn time i see that truck, driver is drunk and driving all over. its at 2 am
10:16 PM XXCoder: its not very often (5 times over 2 years) but yeah
10:17 PM JavaBean: it is often enough that you recognize it, as such it is ineed "TOO OFTEN"
10:17 PM XXCoder: one of em he was driving on wrong way and almost had accient when he suddenly pulled over to right one
10:17 PM XXCoder: (not with me, but someone else)
10:17 PM roycroft: when i first moved to eugene i lived on a country road north of the city
10:18 PM XXCoder: other time it drive all over 2 lines, then ran red light
10:18 PM XXCoder: 2 am its not too dangerous but yeah
10:18 PM roycroft: i lived there for three years, and i had power outages at least a couple dozen times for the same reason - the power poles were on the northbound side of the road, and on friday/saturday night the kids from junction city (to the north) would be driving home from partying in eugene, and crash into a power pole
10:19 PM roycroft: it was a pretty serious problem
10:20 PM XXCoder: :(
10:22 PM JavaBean: used to live in a "small town(2500-ish population)" we had someone who had their license revoked, so drove a riding mower/"lawn tractor" to work... saw it "pulled over" a few times, supposedly he is why they changed the laws on "drunk driving" in that area
10:23 PM XXCoder: jeez
10:23 PM roycroft: btw, news just came in that the chinook winds casino, which is in lincoln city, is closing for 2 weeks due to the spread of covid-19 in lincoln county
10:24 PM roycroft: javabean: across the river from here in springfield someone was busted a few years ago for driving a riding mower drunk with a suspended license and causing a wreck
10:25 PM JavaBean: were the blades running?
10:25 PM roycroft: and when i lived in bellingham a friend of mine got a dui for riding his bicycle erradically on a city street while drunk
10:26 PM JavaBean: the change that i was told about, was that they made it "anything with a motor" for a dui
10:27 PM roycroft: well there's always public intoxication
10:27 PM roycroft: which does not require operating any kind of vehicle
10:28 PM roycroft: but in washington, a bicycle is considered a vehicle if it's being operated on a street
10:28 PM roycroft: so if my friend were riding on the sidewalk, he may have been charged with public intoxication instead of dui
10:29 PM JavaBean: i know it USED to be a problem there, but the cops stopped camping the bar everynight when someone pointed out that the off-duty officers coming out were usually the most sloshed
10:30 PM roycroft: and they were never the ones busted, right?
10:30 PM JavaBean: exactly
10:32 PM JavaBean: small town, small police force... everyone knows who all of the officers in the area are... yeah, they stopped literally sitting out infront of the bar when it got pointed out
10:38 PM XXCoder: one of reasons ill never live at small town
10:39 PM JavaBean: just makes it harder for you to notice such things
10:40 PM JavaBean: as a side note, the number of dui arrests plummeted after that. but it was probably just a coincidence
10:49 PM roycroft: they should have gone up
10:49 PM roycroft: the off-duty cops should have been busted
10:50 PM XXCoder: yep nobody above law
10:52 PM roycroft: nanci griffith died
11:09 PM roycroft: it's amazing - when it's nice and cool out, like when i was on the coast, i could sit down with my laptop in the evening and get lots of work done
11:09 PM roycroft: now, when i'm back home, and it's so hot, i sit here with the same laptop and cannot focus
11:50 PM perry_j1987: running out of WD-40 around here
11:50 PM perry_j1987: need to pick some more up
11:54 PM roycroft: it's a lot cheaper to buy it by the gallon and fill a spray bottle
11:57 PM perry_j1987: thats not a bad idea
11:58 PM roycroft: harbor freight used to carry gallon jugs of it
11:58 PM perry_j1987: they bottle it not to far from where i am
11:58 PM roycroft: i don't know fi they still do
11:58 PM perry_j1987: how much
11:58 PM roycroft: but check the price - harbor freight aren't always the cheapest on name brand stuff
11:59 PM roycroft: yeah, home depot are cheaper