#linuxcnc Logs
Aug 05 2021
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:49 AM unterhausen: turns out I have a batch of pieces that look like they are stuck together, but they aren't
01:51 AM randy: morning
02:33 AM Deejay: moin
04:09 AM Tom_L: morning
06:04 AM JT-Cave: morning
06:05 AM XXCoder: heys
07:28 AM perry_j1987: morning
07:54 AM JT-Cave: hay
07:54 AM XXCoder: is for horses
07:59 AM JavaBean: or XXCoder, who makes mattresses with it
08:00 AM XXCoder: shh my screw recipe, revealed
08:00 AM XXCoder: !
08:01 AM XXCoder: did you know that makersused to use all kinds of stuff in matresses, like used rags
08:01 AM XXCoder: so goverment added recipe tag... which was promptly ripped off by sellers
08:01 AM XXCoder: so they added "to be removed only by customer"
08:01 AM XXCoder: something like that anyway
08:05 AM perry_j1987: think i need to get a couple more gc2 batteries
08:07 AM JT-Cave: https://www.exponentialpower.com/media/wysiwyg/SBS-Forklift-Industrial-Battery_1.png
08:13 AM perry_j1987: arnt forklift batts like 1500+
08:14 AM perry_j1987: also dont have a forklift to move forklift batteries into place heh
08:15 AM XXCoder: so forklifers is like a cat, you should have 2 or more?
08:18 AM perry_j1987: chicken and the egg
08:22 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
08:25 AM JT-Cave: I have to rip out all the relay/timer circuits from a copy lathe and replace it with a plc... sounds like fun
08:26 AM JT-Cave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJJESeqhgfY
08:26 AM JT-Cave: an older version of that
08:30 AM perry_j1987: interesting
08:30 AM perry_j1987: why pic
08:57 AM roycroft: today is my last day of work before my vacation
08:57 AM roycroft: my brain is kind on vacation already
08:57 AM roycroft: kind of
08:59 AM perry_j1987: http://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/datasheets/J185HGAC_Trojan_Data_Sheets.pdf found a good deal on these
09:17 AM mrec: does linuxcnc support uart via parallel port?
09:20 AM mrec: well ok nevermind, I'll just implement it in my microcontroller and go via RS485 to another microcontroller in my machine
10:05 AM unterhaus: I would be happy with freecad, except when I tried to mesh my part I only get a part of it
10:06 AM unterhaus: in the original file, it looks like the entire thing, but when I open the stl, it's not
11:03 AM unterhaus: I was happier when it showed me the truncated object as an stl, it shows me the whole thing until I try to print it
12:06 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, do they have timing charts or such for that to make the conversion a bit easier?
12:40 PM unterhaus: XXCoder, have you ever used freecad to 3d print something?
12:49 PM MrHindsight[m]: roycroft: how long will you be away without internet access?
12:51 PM unterhaus: are you having troubles with your nic again, Cap'n?
12:51 PM roycroft: i'll be gone for a week
12:51 PM roycroft: i'll be on-call though, so i'll have to drive to town every day to check emails
12:52 PM roycroft: unterhaus: i can't answer for xxcoder, but i know folks have used freecad for 3d printing, and i've seen discussion that the path workbench is much improved in 0.19
12:53 PM roycroft: for whatever that's worth :)
12:53 PM unterhaus: I was thinking about trying my part in the path workbench
12:53 PM unterhaus: I can't decide if the problem I'm having is one that nobody else has or what
12:54 PM unterhaus: it meshes part of one extrusion and all of one rotation
12:54 PM roycroft: draw a really simple part and run it through the path workbench
12:54 PM roycroft: slowly add complexity until you can reproduce your issue
12:54 PM unterhaus: that's what I was thinking, but for meshing
12:55 PM roycroft: whatever you need to debug :)
12:55 PM roycroft: the technique is the same
12:55 PM roycroft: draw, test, add, repeat, until it breaks
12:55 PM MrHindsight[m]: unterhaus: not that I am aware, not sure which one shows up in IRC
12:56 PM unterhaus: well, you're Mr right now, which might lead some people to think you were dishonorably discharged
12:56 PM unterhaus: your hindsight not being 20/20
12:57 PM MrHindsight[m]: IRC tends to keep the nick from connecting more than once at the same time
12:59 PM MrHindsight[m]: don't make no neverminds to me
01:00 PM roycroft: perhaps mrhindsight wasn't demoted
01:00 PM roycroft: perhaps he considers the rest of us promoted
01:00 PM roycroft: in the navy, captain roycroft would address captain hindsight as mister hindsight
01:00 PM MrHindsight[m]: for your consideration
01:01 PM MrHindsight[m]: pronounced Mee Store
01:01 PM roycroft: but ensign roycroft would address captain hindsight as captain hindsight
01:01 PM MrHindsight[m]: "Hey Mee Store, do you have the time?"
01:02 PM roycroft: it's actually a bit more nuanced as that
01:02 PM roycroft: senior officers address their peers as "mister" as an honorific
01:02 PM unterhaus: they call lower ranking officers mister in the navy?
01:02 PM roycroft: senior officers address subordinate officers as "mister" when dressing them down
01:03 PM MrHindsight[m]: some called me "Sir" yesterday, I looked around and acted puzzled and they got it
01:04 PM unterhaus: wouldn't know, I was always the model officer
01:05 PM roycroft: the very model of a modern major general?
01:05 PM unterhaus: I was trying to think of that song, but I forget which musical it came from
01:05 PM MrHindsight[m]: https://youtu.be/fS2vchiA9tk?t=13 the old running gag
01:06 PM roycroft: the pirates of penzance
01:06 PM roycroft: and technically, it's referred to as an "operatta", not a "musical"
01:06 PM roycroft: operetta, rather
01:07 PM roycroft: the modern musical is derived from operetta, so i'm not sure what the real difference is, besides temporal
01:08 PM unterhaus: does it mean there is no spoken dialog? Haven't seen it since I was a kid
01:08 PM roycroft: there is spoken dialog
01:08 PM MrHindsight[m]: how would you refer to a female officer? As "Mam' or?
01:09 PM unterhaus: I would, unless they were a general in which case you call them "general"
01:09 PM roycroft: usually "sir"
01:09 PM unterhaus: I have seen that and it always seemed ridiculous
01:09 PM MrHindsight[m]: Army vs Navy
01:10 PM unterhaus: is it the army that calls female officers "sir"?
01:10 PM MrHindsight[m]: "you're saluting the rank, not the individual"
01:10 PM unterhaus: would make sense, only so much they can handle
01:12 PM unterhaus: my wife found out that if an enlisted army person calls an officer, they stand at attention at their desk until told to be at ease
01:12 PM MrHindsight[m]: "Army training Sir!"
01:12 PM unterhaus: and she never remembered either
01:12 PM MrHindsight[m]: one of the best lines
01:13 PM unterhaus: she probably asked how she could get them to stop doing that
01:14 PM unterhaus: the insignia of Turkish Captains is the same as an American 2 star. That leads to a lot of hilarity
01:15 PM MrHindsight[m]: a family member was in the navy for 20 years, recently retired...
01:17 PM MrHindsight[m]: has lots of stories about the attention he got from top brass when they arrived at a new base or formal function since he had worked for many closely
01:19 PM MrHindsight[m]: protocol gets forgotten
01:30 PM MrHindsight[m]: USA, 2nd civil war in <20 years? What are the chances?
01:32 PM roycroft: i'm not willing to speculate on that right now
01:32 PM roycroft: the answer should be categorically "that will not happen under any circumstances", but i don't feel i can answer that way at the moment
01:33 PM roycroft: we are at a turning point in our nation's history
01:33 PM roycroft: and i'm not sure which direction we're heading
01:36 PM MrHindsight[m]: put it up for vote for the south to secede
01:36 PM MrHindsight[m]: Canada went through that
01:36 PM roycroft: i'm not sure if that would pass or not
01:37 PM MrHindsight[m]: with Quebec
01:37 PM MrHindsight[m]: maybe just Florida?
01:37 PM roycroft: the way it's going, it would probably fail, because the secessionsts are all dying of covid-19, leaving the unionists to vote
01:38 PM MrHindsight[m]: was just looking for the news stories on how vaccinations are finally up in La and Al
01:39 PM MrHindsight[m]: proof is in the pudding
01:39 PM unterhaus: I saw they were up in LA, didn't see about Al
01:39 PM roycroft: i hope they go up everywhere, especially in the south
01:40 PM unterhaus: it just seems like people are going from ER to dead so much quicker, but that's probably just anecdata
01:40 PM roycroft: i'm tired of this pandemic, and i'm tired of the anti-vaxers prolonging it
01:40 PM unterhaus: I told someone that yesterday
01:40 PM unterhaus: on FB
01:41 PM roycroft: it will be nice to be away from the news for a week
01:42 PM unterhaus: I missed that she thinks there is a chip in it
01:42 PM MrHindsight[m]: it's way up in holdout states
01:42 PM unterhaus: the needle is so tiny, I bet the chip manufacturers wish they could put a chip through it
01:42 PM roycroft: explain the mechanism on how that would work
01:43 PM roycroft: that's not even the issue, unterhaus
01:43 PM MrHindsight[m]: nah, they do that with the phones they already have
01:43 PM roycroft: for sake of argument, chips are small enough to fit in the needle
01:43 PM roycroft: there are five doses of the vaccine in a vial
01:43 PM roycroft: how does the needle suck out exactly one chip along with 1/5 of the liquid?
01:43 PM MrHindsight[m]: logic does not apply
01:44 PM MrHindsight[m]: only popular opinion to many
01:44 PM unterhaus: I sat at a table with the top engineer of ASML, I would love to ask him if they could do it
01:44 PM MrHindsight[m]: perception is reality
01:46 PM unterhaus: well, her response was that I didn't know what was in the vaxx
01:47 PM unterhaus: you could have a large number of chips
01:47 PM MrHindsight[m]: 21 gauge needle
01:48 PM unterhaus: I have taken a reasonable number of essentially experimental vaccines. Smallpox and polio, for example
01:48 PM unterhaus: polio was even a live vaccine
01:49 PM unterhaus: but if they put the covid vax in a sugar cube, I bet there would be 30% less hesitancy
01:49 PM MrHindsight[m]: I'd love an IV chip that you could read through the skin
01:50 PM MrHindsight[m]: we could track all sorts of things in real time
01:50 PM roycroft: most of the covid-19 vaccines aren't even a virus at all
01:50 PM roycroft: not denatured
01:50 PM unterhaus: when I went to afit, they had pictures of all the chips they implanted in dogs in the hallway
01:51 PM MrHindsight[m]: nothing even close to 21 gauge
01:51 PM MrHindsight[m]: power is a big problem
01:51 PM unterhaus: I think all those chips were about 1cm square
01:52 PM unterhaus: no pictures of the dogs though
01:52 PM MrHindsight[m]: I could make an ID tag that could fit
01:52 PM MrHindsight[m]: reading it through the skin is an issue
01:52 PM MrHindsight[m]: unless it makes it out a sweat gland or similar
01:53 PM unterhaus: shrink ray some batteries and an antenna
01:53 PM pcw_home: You just need to step into the microwave to get enough power to run the chips
01:53 PM unterhaus: it's true that there are people working on injecting chips
01:54 PM MrHindsight[m]: yeah, run the numbers
01:55 PM MrHindsight[m]: yes, me being one
01:55 PM unterhaus: it's never as easy as it looks
01:55 PM MrHindsight[m]: your own DNA is a great ID tag that you already make
01:56 PM unterhaus: I wonder if the DoD ever sequenced that blood sample they took to ID me
01:57 PM MrHindsight[m]: I don't see why they would not
01:57 PM unterhaus: that was when dna sequencing was looking possible, but not not yet doable
01:57 PM MrHindsight[m]: same for all the 23andMe and similar "services"
01:58 PM unterhaus: so I have wondered if it's just in storage
01:59 PM unterhaus: they bled us out onto a piece of cardboard
01:59 PM MrHindsight[m]: do the people who believe that the vaccine has a tracking chip also not believe that their phones track the shit out of them?
02:00 PM roycroft: they believe their phones give them cancer
02:00 PM roycroft: but they still use them
02:00 PM MrHindsight[m]: yes, paper is great for storing DNA
02:02 PM roycroft: we just had us some thunder
02:02 PM MrHindsight[m]: just keep the paper dry
02:03 PM unterhaus: "I don't want the gubment to track me" "sent from my iphone"
02:04 PM MrHindsight[m]: they honor those requests
02:05 PM MrHindsight[m]: since the guberment works for us
02:05 PM unterhaus: I'm a lot less worried about our gubment than some of the clients of that malware from Israel
02:06 PM unterhaus: Of course, our gubment shouldn't do it either
02:06 PM MrHindsight[m]: https://www.nist.gov/publications/state-integrated-camcnc-control-systems-prior-developments-and-path-towards-smarter-cnc
02:07 PM MrHindsight[m]: https://tsapps.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=928733 direct link
02:09 PM unterhaus: freecad keeps talking about breaking my face
02:09 PM unterhaus: not very nice
02:11 PM MrHindsight[m]: Does your face hurt?
02:11 PM MrHindsight[m]: https://www.steptools.com/stds/stepnc/
02:15 PM unterhaus: I saved my mesh as a .obj and it worked
02:16 PM unterhaus: huh, I used a different stl viewer on my old files and it also was the complete model
02:16 PM unterhaus: so there is something wrong with the way that freecad displays stl's maybe
02:17 PM unterhaus: now to see if shapeways likes it
02:18 PM MrHindsight[m]: yes, FreeCAD is still a WIP
02:19 PM MrHindsight[m]: uses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Cascade_Technology
02:20 PM unterhaus: there was one online viewer that had the same problem, that threw me off
02:21 PM unterhaus: shapeways reads the file okay, but $750 in aluminum
02:21 PM unterhaus: steel is only $337
02:22 PM unterhaus: too big to be printed from gold
02:23 PM unterhaus: not sure I can print it myself in plastic
02:30 PM unterhaus: I think it probably will work in plastic, needs a couple of inserts though
02:37 PM Tom_L: what are you making?
02:45 PM MrHindsight[m]: was at Design2Part yesterday
02:45 PM MrHindsight[m]: decent turn out
02:46 PM MrHindsight[m]: discovered that these are no 3d printed molds for die casting yet
02:48 PM MrHindsight[m]: close https://www.additivemanufacturing.media/articles/in-automotive-is-additive-manufacturing-an-answer-for-die-cast-tooling
02:49 PM MrHindsight[m]: https://www.mmsonline.com/articles/is-3d-printed-tooling-a-solution-for-die-casting site loads slow
02:50 PM Tom_L: maybe for you
02:51 PM MrHindsight[m]: i loosened it
02:56 PM unterhaus: I'm making a tool that bolts onto a bicycle wheel truing stand to hold different kinds of wheels
02:57 PM Tom_L: i have a truing stand you can have if you come and get it
02:57 PM unterhaus: I have a design that uses square tubing and a couple of small machined parts
02:58 PM unterhaus: If it was a preciray, I would come get it
02:59 PM Tom_L: i dunno what it is
02:59 PM unterhaus: probably not a PK Lie, I guess
02:59 PM unterhaus: there are a few I would make a road trip to get
03:00 PM unterhaus: none of them in common circulation though
03:00 PM Tom_L: it's fairly old
03:00 PM Tom_L: what makes one better than the next?
03:00 PM unterhaus: accuracy, how well it holds the wheel
03:01 PM Tom_L: well it's on the list of things to go here cause i never use it anymore
03:01 PM unterhaus: I have the industry standard Park TS 2.2, and I'm not a big fan
03:02 PM unterhaus: but my adapter fits the TS 2.2
03:04 PM Tom_L: mine is like an A frame iirc
03:05 PM Tom_L: it was given to me
03:10 PM unterhaus: There have been a couple of designs like that, it's the most common alibaba design
03:11 PM unterhaus: I suppose I should go back to seeing how to make the small parts quickly on my lathe
03:11 PM unterhaus: although part of it I can get laser cut
03:12 PM unterhaus: probably was a bad idea to start learning freecad at 9pm
03:15 PM Tom_L: this one is cheap looking compared to yours
03:15 PM Tom_L: minoura is the brand
03:17 PM * JT-Shop built his truing stand
03:17 PM unterhaus: I was going to guess minoura
03:17 PM JT-Shop: I guess I either need to get new plates for the van or quit driving it...
03:17 PM Tom_L: i've had it quite a while and the dust shows it
03:17 PM unterhaus: how many times have they stopped you for no plates?
03:18 PM unterhaus: I'm waiting to be stopped out of state because Pennsylvania stopped sending expiration stickers to save money
03:20 PM Tom_L: unterhaus, you should design one that has roller dial indicators on each side
03:20 PM Tom_L: and front
03:21 PM unterhaus: you can get that for the Park
03:21 PM Tom_L: oh i'm sure you can :)
03:21 PM unterhaus: the PK Lie has really awesome indicators on it. It saves the max/min for each revolution
03:22 PM unterhaus: I'm designing a cnc truing stand
03:22 PM unterhaus: go big or go home
03:23 PM Tom_L: https://www.pklie.de/truing_stand.html
03:23 PM unterhaus: yeah the stand itself doesn't impress me, but I want those indicators
03:24 PM Tom_L: i'm betting it's way overpriced too
03:24 PM unterhaus: It looks good on the bench though
03:24 PM unterhaus: there is an electronic setup that looks really slick https://www.islandix.com/
03:25 PM unterhaus: I saw it on mitutoyo's insta
03:25 PM unterhaus: too much $ for me
03:25 PM Tom_L: only $500
03:31 PM unterhaus: a couple of digimatics will set you back another $400
03:32 PM unterhaus: but including the cables makes it a better deal than I thought
03:42 PM JT-Shop: just got stopped today, a bunch of state police were out on the highway today
03:43 PM Roguish_shop: busted
03:49 PM JT-Shop: I just got a warning...
03:50 PM Tom_L: aren't you the lucky one
03:50 PM JT-Shop: yea, time to get rid of it and just drive rusty until I can find a new truck
03:51 PM Tom_L: still no honda ehh
03:51 PM JT-Shop: can't find one nearby
03:51 PM Roguish_shop: book 'em Dano
03:56 PM JT-Shop: looks like the uplander is worth $3k
04:18 PM unterhaus: can a pc lcnc setup fit on an 8gb disk?
04:19 PM roycroft: i actually got rained on a little bit on my way down to the office today
04:20 PM roycroft: just a light sprinkle, but it was nice
04:22 PM unterhaus: it just thundered right as you posted that
04:22 PM unterhaus: thunderstorm must be in the back yard though, front yard is sunny
04:26 PM unterhaus: should I just give in and get a 250gb ssd
04:29 PM roycroft: for what?
04:30 PM roycroft: oh, for linuxcnc
04:30 PM roycroft: i use an ssd for it
04:30 PM roycroft: but if you get one, get an enterprise class ssd
04:30 PM roycroft: those have way more spare sectors, and won't fail after six months
04:31 PM roycroft: consumer ssds are fine for data storage, but not for running an operating system with swap and temp files and the like
04:31 PM roycroft: it's nice having linuxcnc up and running in 10 seconds after power-on
04:39 PM roycroft: but what's going to be really nice is working in the shop today, when the temperature is only 21 degrees
04:39 PM roycroft: i'll be able to work with the door open, and not be sweating just standing there
04:39 PM Tom_L: might need a sweater
04:40 PM roycroft: it's acutally warmer on the coast than it is here right now
04:42 PM roycroft: btw, linux is going to fall over and die in october
04:43 PM roycroft: there's a bug in ntpd that will cause a buffer overflow, and the date will be set back to 2002
04:44 PM roycroft: i don't know all the sordid details yet, but virtually every linux distro uses the buggy ntpd
04:44 PM Tom_L: Y2K all over again
04:44 PM roycroft: i'm sure it will be patched before we go back in time, but i'm not sure everyone will apply the patch in time
04:46 PM seb_kuzm1nsky is now known as seb_kuzminsky
04:53 PM * roycroft does not want to return to the dubya days, and so will be certain to patch
05:00 PM unclouded: I use RAID1 md for linuxcnc, so if one SSD fails then the other should last long enough to get the array back up to redundant
05:00 PM roycroft: if you want to believe that, go right ahead
05:01 PM XXCoder: unterhaus: often
05:01 PM unclouded: have you often had NREs during a resilver?
05:04 PM roycroft: resilvering is very stressful to all members of the array
05:04 PM roycroft: i have seen ssds fail during resilvering
05:04 PM roycroft: small enterprise class ssds are not very expensive
05:05 PM roycroft: there's no reason not to get one if you're putting the os on it
05:07 PM unclouded: I have to admit that I see more devices fail early in the bathtub curve than later, so maybe that I've not seen NREs during resilvers is because the other members are new as well, but from a different vendor
05:09 PM unclouded: why is resilvering so stressful? for RAID1 it shouldn't be any worse than a regular scheduled scrub. do you mean RAID5/6?
05:13 PM roycroft: aah, what a good feeling
05:13 PM roycroft: i just moved my .forward.disabled to .forward
05:13 PM roycroft: meaning people will get my vacation message starting now :)
05:13 PM * roycroft gets to log off in less than 10 seconds
05:46 PM unterhaus: XXCoder, I finally got it to work, but freecad has a problem opening its own exported stl files for some reason
05:46 PM XXCoder: odd
05:47 PM unterhaus: I think the file is pretty clean, no errors anyway
05:47 PM unterhaus: if shapeways thinks they can print it, it's okay because they are really picky
05:48 PM XXCoder: thats good
05:48 PM unterhaus: I was just about to d/l a slicer though
05:55 PM roycroft: popeil's pocket printer program?
05:55 PM roycroft: it slices and dices!
05:56 PM roycroft: what an amazing day it is
05:56 PM roycroft: i just started my vacation
05:56 PM roycroft: it is pay day
05:56 PM roycroft: and i just paid off the final credit card debt that i've been dealing with for years
05:57 PM roycroft: i've a few hundred dollars left on my car loan, which will be paid off in a couple months, but besides that my only bills are the month-to-month ones
05:58 PM roycroft: i just deposited my paycheck, and i'm not going to pay my bills until later tonight, but i had to log in and pay off that credit card the instant i got home from the bank
05:58 PM Tom_L: time to rack up some more debt!
05:58 PM roycroft: NOT
05:58 PM roycroft: i mean, i don't mind if the terms are right and it's something i need
05:59 PM Tom_L: the terms are always right for somebody
05:59 PM roycroft: i have accounts all over the place that are 0% apr for six months or a year, so if i need something now but don't want to pay for it now, i don't mind using one of those accounts
05:59 PM roycroft: i *always* pay them off before the special apr expires
05:59 PM roycroft: that's the only sane way to use them
06:01 PM roycroft: i may get this little lathe i've been thinking about, for example, on a 6 month 0% apr payment plan
06:02 PM roycroft: it's better to have the cash in the bank, earning interest, than to give it away up front
06:02 PM roycroft: at least that's my story
06:05 PM XXCoder: whoa
06:05 PM XXCoder: my phone just upgrded to android 11
06:05 PM * JT-Shop tries to remember the jointer method of making sure your edge glued boards are flat...
06:05 PM XXCoder: and it has live captions
06:06 PM JT-Shop: what are live captions?
06:07 PM Tom_L: mine is on 11 as well
06:07 PM roycroft: jt-shop: if you mean you want them to glue up planar, you joint the two matching edges at the same time
06:08 PM roycroft: lay the boards on a table, with the edges you want to glue together touching, then flip other edges of the boards up
06:08 PM JT-Shop: do you put both faces together?
06:08 PM roycroft: and run both through the jointer together
06:08 PM roycroft: that way, if the fence is not perfectly square to the bed, the angles will complement each other
06:09 PM roycroft: the two edges to be jointed are the inner edges
06:09 PM roycroft: butt them together, and pick up the outer edges
06:09 PM JT-Shop: that's what I was looking for thanks
06:09 PM roycroft: so yes, face to face
06:09 PM roycroft: or back to back
06:09 PM roycroft: however you want to look at it :)
06:09 PM Tom_L: side to side
06:09 PM XXCoder: JT-Shop: what it does is show captions when it hears spoken stuff, not sure if it includes videos etc being played on phone
06:09 PM JT-Shop: I don't really have much short pieces for the bottom drawer face
06:10 PM JT-Shop: XXCoder, pretty cool
06:10 PM roycroft: but the better plan is to make the fence square to the bed :)
06:10 PM JT-Shop: I'm pretty sure the fence is perpendicular to the bed... I'm an anal machinist
06:10 PM XXCoder: yeah need to test it though
06:10 PM * roycroft is ready to start cutting kumiko pieces, but realises his plans are for 2.5" squares and his prototype has 2.25" squares
06:11 PM roycroft: jt-shop: i make sure of that too
06:11 PM roycroft: and unless it's really unwieldy to do so, i like jointing the two edges together anyway, just to make sure
06:12 PM roycroft: if you start with zero error, and use an error-compensating process, there's a good chance you'll end up with zero error
06:13 PM JT-Shop: yep, that's the plan, the rest of the drawer fronts I have minimal waste material for them
06:16 PM roycroft: the one thing i don't like about my new jointer is that when i move the fence it goes out of square
06:16 PM roycroft: as in sliding it back and forth across the bed
06:16 PM roycroft: my old one was like that, but not as bad
06:16 PM roycroft: i got used to squaring it up every time i moved it, but i was hoping that 20 years later, grizzly had figured out how to make a fende that holds square
06:17 PM roycroft: it's not endemic to grizzly though - it seems most jointers have that problem
06:17 PM roycroft: and i'd have had to pay at least twice as much to get one that holds square
06:19 PM JT-Shop: I never move the fence on the jointer
06:21 PM JT-Shop: looks like it's only a $5 penalty for not renewing my tags on time for the van
06:24 PM roycroft: that's the other thing
06:24 PM roycroft: i move it more with the new one than the old one
06:24 PM roycroft: i find that i like to leave it set back about 6", which is the right width for face jointing most of the boards i use
06:25 PM roycroft: but i have that extra 2" now, and i sometimes joint wider boards, so i move it back for them
06:26 PM roycroft: and if you do a lot of edge jointing it's good to move the fence in a little bit at a time so you wear the knives/inserts more evenly than if you always run the edges in the same place
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08:40 PM XXCoder: COOL video! https://youtu.be/JkXDi0oETd4
08:40 PM XXCoder: making of big fountain
08:40 PM XXCoder: cnc waterjet, then welding. im at welding
08:48 PM _unreal_: I'm at pink flamingo
08:49 PM _unreal_: oh wait that was an AIR BNB add
09:22 PM _unreal_: sigh
11:15 PM _unreal_: THAT SHIT IS COOL AS HELLLLLLL VERY WELL BUILT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XAuT7R7NLI