#linuxcnc Logs

Jun 27 2021

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:56 AM XXCoder: wow this exists lol https://shop.thevirtualfoundry.com/collections/metal-filaments/products/inconel-718-34-filamet?variant=31578317881427
02:12 AM Deejay: moin
02:58 AM veegee: Ok I have a 5C collet chuck with a plain back
02:58 AM veegee: And I have a D1-4 backplate
02:58 AM veegee: They both have through holes, none threaded
02:58 AM veegee: What is the process of properly drilling mounting holes in the back plate for a collet chuck?
02:58 AM veegee: The through holes in the collet chuck are larger than the supplied screws and obviously there will be play
02:58 AM veegee: Assuming you drill and tap the holes in the backplate perfectly, there will still be enough play in the through holes in the collet chuck such that it will not be concentric
03:10 AM veegee: Also roycroft expansion arbors would have been perfect for my issue of holding a part you recommended to turn between centers
03:10 AM veegee: I didn't know they existed. I wished they did, but didn't know what they were called
04:37 AM mrec_: https://streamable.com/6catuy can someone comment this video? I think the controller of the motor is just configured the wrong way
04:38 AM mrec_: there's nothing I can do with the current controller since it's full with epoxy (and I don't want to scratch it down) however the company is going to ship a second one without epoxy now
04:39 AM mrec_: there's no closed loop from the RPM counter to the controller, but when applying force the motor will slowly speed up
04:39 AM mrec_: and when removing the force it will overshoot
04:40 AM XXCoder: seems pid is iff if respond is that slow
04:40 AM mrec_: not sure how they do that or if a pid is used at all but I think it's not configured good enough
04:42 AM Tom_L: morning
04:44 AM XXCoder: yo
04:59 AM XXCoder: sigh
04:59 AM XXCoder: predicytion increased monday to 111f
04:59 AM XXCoder: what fun
04:59 AM XXCoder: though after that is all 80s f now. was 90s
04:59 AM XXCoder: ugh today will be 101f
05:55 AM mrec_: is there a function available for converting bits to steps/per interval(eg. 20ms)??
05:57 AM mrec_: ok the encoder stuff
06:40 AM XXCoder: interesting! https://hackaday.com/2021/06/27/video-de-shaker-software-measures-linear-rail-quality/
06:41 AM JT-Cave: morning
06:41 AM XXCoder: jt check out the link
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06:49 AM JT-Cave: nope
06:49 AM XXCoder: ok ill get more direct link. a sec
06:49 AM mrec_: does anyone know how to get the encoder work to output a velocity? basically it's not doing anything here.
06:50 AM XXCoder: https://www.kurokesu.com/main/2020/06/29/measure-linear-rail-quality-with-camera-and-excel/
06:50 AM mrec_: loadrt encoder num_chan=1
06:50 AM mrec_: setp encoder.0.counter-mode true
06:50 AM mrec_: setp encoder.0.position-scale 1.0
06:50 AM mrec_: net jog-count-bits encoder.0.phase-A
06:50 AM mrec_: I see encoder.0.phase-A toggling
06:51 AM mrec_: ok possible the enable part is missing
07:39 AM mrec_: that encoder module is a mystical thing it's not doing anything
07:40 AM mrec_: getting the signals and counting some timer up but not the incoming signal
07:41 AM mrec_: is there any documentation available about the encoder module? (anything other than the manpage which only explains the pins but not how to use it)
07:53 AM mrec_: ups forgot to add it to the threads
08:35 AM mrec_: motion.adaptive-feed is nice
09:21 AM rs[m]: mrec_: google for "quadrature encoder"
09:23 AM rs[m]: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/hal/rtcomps.html#_encoder
09:31 AM mrec_: rs[m]: I have it already
11:24 AM JT-Shop: I'm screwed either my standoff's are too short or my screws are too long...
11:26 AM _unreal_: be brave!
11:26 AM _unreal_: got photos?
11:26 AM _unreal_: JT-Shop, https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ejmwQjHGskbBvob9
11:31 AM roycroft: screws can be made shorter
11:32 AM roycroft: standoffs are usually pretty hard to stretch though
11:32 AM JT-Shop: m3x5 screws won't work with a 5x4 standoff...
11:42 AM _unreal_: heheh
11:42 AM _unreal_: ya thats not leaving much thread
11:49 AM synfinatic_ is now known as synfinatic
12:05 PM _unreal_: well I think I'm going to go to the beach
12:48 PM drdoc: good morning, all
12:50 PM drdoc: I have a 7i96 question
12:51 PM drdoc: I have plenty of 5V *or* 12V available for I/O power, which right now is just mechanical limit switches.
12:53 PM drdoc: is there any reason to add 12V circuits for field power?
12:54 PM drdoc: Main PSU is 48V, fwiw
12:54 PM roycroft: i was going to go to the beach today, but every other person in western oregon is at the beach today
12:54 PM drdoc: urgh
12:54 PM roycroft: it might take me most of the day to even get there (normally a 50 minute drive)
12:54 PM drdoc: I can't think of a less pleasant place to be
12:55 PM drdoc: crowded beaches make me homicidal
12:55 PM roycroft: drdoc: 21 degrees on the coast
12:55 PM roycroft: 46 degrees here
12:55 PM drdoc: yup
12:55 PM roycroft: it's almost worth putting up with the crowds
12:55 PM drdoc: but I don't do crowds very well
12:55 PM drdoc: well, ok
12:56 PM roycroft: but instead i'll hang out in my shop and hope the ac provides some relief
12:56 PM drdoc: I avoid crowds at almost all cost
12:56 PM roycroft: today will be hottest day in recorded history in oregon
12:56 PM drdoc: wow
12:56 PM roycroft: yesterday we hit 40 degrees for the first time ever in june
12:56 PM roycroft: we'll blow past that record today
12:57 PM * drdoc eyeballs the political soapbox
12:57 PM * roycroft avoids the political soapbox
12:57 PM * drdoc decides not
12:57 PM drdoc: 45-46 is normal summer peak where I grew up
12:58 PM drdoc: but at 12-15% RH
12:58 PM roycroft: my office is the other room in my house with ac
12:58 PM roycroft: yeah, we'll be at 35% rh today
12:58 PM drdoc: yeah
12:58 PM roycroft: it won't be like east coast nasty
12:58 PM roycroft: but still very unpleasant
12:58 PM drdoc: yes
12:58 PM roycroft: and hardly anyone in this part of the world has ac
12:58 PM roycroft: because it did not make much sense in the past
12:58 PM roycroft: it's been making more and more sense lately though
12:59 PM drdoc: It doesn't get wuite that hot here, but midday RH is usually 50-65%
12:59 PM drdoc: *quite
01:00 PM drdoc: it's my birthday today
01:00 PM roycroft: i'm installing some drawers today, and am just in the office for a bit to make quick cad drawing of the drawer slide layout
01:01 PM roycroft: happy birthday
01:01 PM drdoc: working on the router sounds like a good way to celebrate
01:01 PM * drdoc hopes to get everything squared, plumbed, and torqued down today
01:01 PM drdoc: maybe even run some code....
01:07 PM Tom_L: square and plum sounds like a carpenter. we call it tramming :)
01:21 PM roycroft: it's a router
01:21 PM roycroft: he's going to carpent with it
01:22 PM Tom_L: that's ok then :)
03:10 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:32 PM roycroft: lovely
03:32 PM roycroft: we're having a brownout
03:33 PM roycroft: i started popping circuit breakers when i shouldn't have, and measured the voltage - it's normally between 124vac and 125vac here
03:33 PM roycroft: it's 101vac right now
03:34 PM JT-Shop: OUCH
03:35 PM JT-Shop: opps caps lock was on
03:35 PM roycroft: yeah, i have a choice in the shop right now - lights or ac
03:36 PM roycroft: i'm actually looking for a way to put the ac on a different circuit
03:36 PM roycroft: right now the lights are off and the ac is on
03:36 PM roycroft: because priorities
03:37 PM roycroft: fortunately most of my work this afternoon is hand work, with the exception of a few table saw cuts in sheet goods, which i should be able to do in a brownout
03:38 PM roycroft: but if the voltage drops further i may have to start shutting servers down - they're on a line conditioner and are operating just fine now, but if the voltage continues to drop i'll either trip the breaker they are on or the line conditioner will not be able to compensate
03:39 PM roycroft: we have four more hours until we reach the heat of the day, so i should imagine the brownout will last that long or longer, unless the power utility can find some more power soon
03:40 PM roycroft: and since this heat bubble is over the entire northwet, from british columbia to northern california, and east to montana, i don't think there's any power to spare anywhere
03:41 PM CloudEvil: Personal cooling solutions can be a useful alternative. I've got the bits for a liquid cooling jacket. Not bothered putting it together.
03:42 PM CloudEvil: https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07CXJG3V Though that may not ship to the USA
03:42 PM CloudEvil: ^like that
03:45 PM CloudEvil: Though that obviously doesn't address server issues
03:48 PM roycroft: nor the fact that i'm applying shellac to the drawers today, and even with the ac on, i can hardly brush it out fast enough before it gets sticky
03:48 PM roycroft: and i have thinned it more than usual
03:48 PM roycroft: i don't need cool temperatures, but i need it to be less than the mid 30s
03:48 PM roycroft: that should not be too much to ask :)
03:49 PM CloudEvil: Use BLO l,it should set in about the normal shellac time.
03:51 PM roycroft: the record high for the day was 36
03:51 PM roycroft: it's 39 right now
03:52 PM roycroft: and we're still on track to reach 45 or 46 today
03:52 PM CloudEvil: ...
03:53 PM roycroft: one of the weather stations near me is already reporting 41
03:53 PM CloudEvil: Humidity?
03:53 PM roycroft: degrees
03:53 PM roycroft: humidity is 35%
03:53 PM CloudEvil: ah
03:53 PM roycroft: enough to make matters worse
03:54 PM roycroft: but not like the east coast
03:55 PM roycroft: ok, i've figured out how i can power the shop ac and still keep the lights on
03:55 PM roycroft: time for a little power rerouting
03:57 PM {HD}: where do you people get general tool information? I am trying to find a benchtop tablesaw that isn't a plastic hunk of junk. I want a nice cabinetry grade saw but small.
04:05 PM JT-Shop: try toolnut or infinity or woodpeckers
04:09 PM {HD}: cool. I will start there.
04:11 PM JT-Shop: I have a SawStop cabinet saw but it's not small...
04:11 PM JT-Shop: oh and woodcraft
04:17 PM {HD}: I fear what I want doesn't exist.
04:40 PM JT-Shop: I've seen a mini table saw somewhere in the past, but forget where
04:42 PM _unreal_: prob harbor freight
04:47 PM roycroft: voltage is back up to normal, so maybe they fixed the problem
04:47 PM roycroft: or maybe they're doing rolling brownouts
04:48 PM roycroft: if you want a really small, precise table saw than get a proxxon
04:48 PM roycroft: but there's nothing in between that tiny one and a decent contractor saw
04:48 PM roycroft: none of the bench top ones i've ever seen are any good for more than really rough work
04:49 PM roycroft: i'm not sure you want "cabinetry grade", as a cabinet saw is at least 3hp
04:49 PM roycroft: but i'm assuming you mean you want something fairly precise and reliable
04:50 PM roycroft: there is always this, for small form factor and very precise:
04:51 PM roycroft: https://bridgecitytools.com/products/jmpv2-jointmaker-pro
04:53 PM roycroft: and it's on sale for an amazingly good price right now
04:57 PM JT-Shop: is that a reciprocating saw?
04:57 PM roycroft: the saw doesn't move at all, actually
04:57 PM roycroft: the saw table moves
04:57 PM roycroft: it's a manual table saw, i suppose
04:58 PM JT-Shop: ok so just a pull saw in a precise frame
04:58 PM roycroft: i do not know what {hd}'s application is
04:58 PM roycroft: so i can't say whether that would be a good fit or not, but it may well be
04:58 PM JT-Shop: I could have used that today when I made a mess of the Japanese rake joint
04:59 PM roycroft: i've often considered getting one
04:59 PM roycroft: just because it would be nice to be able to make precise, repeatable cuts without having to make a lot of noise
05:00 PM roycroft: but it's hard to justify the real estate for it, since i have other machines already that can do everything that saw can do
05:00 PM roycroft: the money is easier to justify
05:00 PM roycroft: if i had a big shop i'd buy one in a heartbeat, especially at that sale price
05:01 PM {HD}: that is interesting and I will lookup the proxxon but haven't heard of those.
05:01 PM roycroft: proxxon make very precise, very small tools
05:01 PM roycroft: again, i don't know your application
05:02 PM {HD}: I have a cabinet saw now and it is sweet! but most of my current work is small things if I cut something that is 2' wide its a surprise.
05:02 PM roycroft: proxxon is more like doll house furniture size
05:02 PM roycroft: it may be way too small for you
05:02 PM {HD}: oh yea that may be too small
05:02 PM {HD}: hahah
05:03 PM roycroft: but the bridge city joint maker might work fine
05:03 PM {HD}: I will read about that jointer looks neat
05:03 PM roycroft: it's been around for a very long time, and they've sold heaps of htem
05:03 PM roycroft: full disclosure about them:
05:03 PM roycroft: bridge city used to be based in portland oregon, and made everything in portland
05:04 PM roycroft: about 4 years ago the owner sold the company to an outfit in la who import a lot of machinery
05:04 PM roycroft: the tools are now made in china, but to the same specs as when they were made in portland
05:04 PM roycroft: and the former owner still supervises things, and designs new tools
05:04 PM roycroft: he just doesn't handle day to day operations any more
05:05 PM {HD}: thats a little sad but is the case for like EVERYTHING!
05:05 PM roycroft: no credible person has complained about the quality since manufacturing was moved to china
05:05 PM roycroft: well, the guy who started the company is pretty old now - in his 70s
05:05 PM roycroft: this is a way for his company to live on
05:06 PM roycroft: and as long as quality is not compromised, it's better to live on this way than to just shut down the company
05:06 PM roycroft: imo
05:06 PM roycroft: certainly i'd prefer to see the tools made in america still
05:06 PM roycroft: but i'd rather have them made in china than not made at all
05:07 PM roycroft: so we've now passed the all time high for june, which we set yesterday
05:07 PM {HD}: Yep, That is an interesting tool. I don't know if that is what I am looking for though.
05:07 PM {HD}: I'd like to see on in person
05:07 PM roycroft: what you're looking for may not exist
05:09 PM roycroft: one of the big problems with the bench top table saws is that most of them have a non-standard miter slot, and really crappy miter gauges
05:09 PM roycroft: so you can't upgrade to a good one like an incra
05:09 PM roycroft: another big problem is that they generally have crappy fences, and you can't get third-party fences to fit most of them
05:10 PM roycroft: they also tend to have short arbors, so you can't put a dado stack in one
05:11 PM {HD}: yea, that is all the crap I am trying to avoid.
05:11 PM {HD}: I want NICE and SMALL
05:12 PM roycroft: it would be interesting for someone to make a benchtop table saw with a nice, cast iron table, a decent fence, standard miter slot, and an 8" blade capacity
05:12 PM roycroft: i think there would probably be a decent size niche market for such a product
05:12 PM roycroft: but i haven't seen one
05:13 PM roycroft: i'm not in the market for one, so i really haven't done a bunch of research, but i am pretty familiar with the woodworking machinery world, and i haven't seen one
05:15 PM * roycroft thinks it's time to install some drawers
05:28 PM veegee: What's a good material to make a chuck back plate out of?
05:29 PM veegee: I think cast iron is out of the question for high speed
05:30 PM veegee: I'm guessing C1045, quenched and tempered to low hardness maybe?
05:43 PM tiwake[m]: regular steel is fine?
05:43 PM tiwake[m]: 1045 is fine, 4140 is fine
05:50 PM {HD}: roycroft: wow proxxon IS small
05:58 PM roycroft: like i said, doll house size
05:58 PM roycroft: cast iron is the standard material for back plates
05:58 PM roycroft: ductile cast iron if you want to be fancy
05:59 PM roycroft: steel is acceptable, but definitely substandard
06:00 PM CloudEvil: stress relieving matters
06:00 PM roycroft: and we are now in all new territory
06:00 PM roycroft: it's officially 43 degrees, the hottest temperature ever recorded here
06:00 PM roycroft: and we've records going back to the 1880s
06:01 PM CloudEvil: roycroft: where are you?
06:01 PM roycroft: eugene oregon
06:01 PM XXCoder: 97f here
06:01 PM roycroft: i also just discovered that i am 5 screws short and have to go to the store to get some more to finish installing my drawers
06:01 PM CloudEvil: Ah. I have some oregano. Great product.
06:01 PM roycroft: my plan was to not go outside today, other than to tend to the irrigation system
06:01 PM roycroft: that plan just got shot to hell
06:02 PM XXCoder: 36c basically
06:02 PM roycroft: fortunately, other than my neighbor who is mowing his yard right now (he is certifiably insane), nobody else is outside, so i should not have to deal with mucht traffic
06:02 PM roycroft: wait 'til tomorrow, xxcoder
06:02 PM XXCoder: i know.
06:02 PM roycroft: this is just a warm-up round for you
06:03 PM roycroft: today is the ball game for me
06:03 PM XXCoder: 44c basically
06:03 PM roycroft: i'm going to start the car and turn the ac on and let it blow for a few minutes before i take off
06:03 PM roycroft: it's probably 55 degrees in the car right now
06:04 PM XXCoder: my car can kill you
06:04 PM XXCoder: its black outside, black inside
06:04 PM roycroft: ouch
06:04 PM roycroft: my prius is "champagne"
06:04 PM XXCoder: when i had daily route to work, i used to open all 4 doors after start engine
06:04 PM roycroft: which is essentially grey/silver, with a wee bit of yellow
06:04 PM XXCoder: wait a minute or so
06:04 PM CloudEvil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nORv34CSYv0
06:04 PM roycroft: and the interior is pretty much the same, but a bit more grey
06:05 PM CloudEvil: 'Man locks himself in hot car to prove babies and dogs are cowards'
06:05 PM XXCoder: lol
06:09 PM roycroft: there's a new rule about trolling on this channel, cloudevil :)
06:09 PM Tom_L: ty
06:12 PM CloudEvil: https://twitter.com/TylerG1998/status/1409269653013151756/photo/1 - I do love rocket engines. SpaceX producing ~2 a week now, for ~$1M per, Whereas rocketdyne want $100M and six months per.
06:13 PM Tom_L: spacex likes to blow things up though
06:17 PM roycroft: yeah, but spacex never blowed up a celebrity real good
06:31 PM _unreal_: spacex heheh I read that as virgin. I was like OH WHAT now
06:43 PM roycroft: it looks like we may peak at 43 degrees, which is better than 46
06:49 PM XXCoder: thats better i guess
06:49 PM XXCoder: 44 tomorrow. so much fun
06:49 PM XXCoder: curious why youre using c
06:50 PM XXCoder: isnt you in oregon, usa heh
06:52 PM roycroft: because the us adopted the metric system in the 1870s
06:52 PM roycroft: and then again in the 1970s
06:52 PM roycroft: so i'm just using our offical system of measurement
06:53 PM ChanServ changed topic of #linuxcnc to: LinuxCNC is a linux-based open-source CNC control. | Latest release: 2.8.2 | http://www.linuxcnc.org
06:53 PM roycroft: and because i'm not sure i want to be lumped in with liberia and myanmar
06:54 PM XXCoder: what is liberia
06:54 PM XXCoder: also what is myanmar
06:56 PM XXCoder: yes it is serious question
06:56 PM tiwake[m]: countries
06:56 PM XXCoder: ahh yes. other 2 remaining countries using imperial
06:56 PM roycroft: and liberia is in the process of converting to si units
06:56 PM tiwake[m]: that nobody cares about or talks about
06:57 PM XXCoder: one of em already changed to metric now
06:57 PM roycroft: so soon it will be just the usa and myanmar
06:58 PM roycroft: even myanmar is talking about converting to si units
06:58 PM XXCoder: usa had "converted to si"
06:58 PM XXCoder: by defining inch to be certain length in mm
06:58 PM roycroft: that's what we did in the 1870s
06:58 PM tiwake[m]: well, I don't plan on being like the rest of the world, so will retain USA standard non-communist units of measure
06:59 PM roycroft: in the 1970s we started actively converting to si units
06:59 PM roycroft: until we didn't
06:59 PM * roycroft reminds tiwake that there is a new rule about trolling on this channel
07:01 PM roycroft: i really don't give a rat's arse about any "politics" involved in this
07:01 PM roycroft: virtually the entire rest of the world uses si units
07:01 PM roycroft: it's stupid and wasteful for the united states to continue using its own system
07:01 PM XXCoder: agreed
07:01 PM roycroft: like it or not, we live in a global economy
07:02 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/CODE_OF_CONDUCT/
07:02 PM roycroft: and much of our industry has already converted to si units
07:02 PM roycroft: but have to retain us customary units for people in this country
07:02 PM roycroft: let's free them from the burden of having to use two systems of measurement, and get with the program
07:03 PM roycroft: it would make our nation stronger and our corporations richer
07:03 PM {HD}: 🍿
07:24 PM CloudEvil: US customary units, but make it 25.4000508 mm
07:27 PM andypugh_: Isn’t it exactly 25.4?
07:28 PM CloudEvil: Yes, now, but it wasn't always
07:29 PM andypugh_: Should be 25.399977 :-)
07:41 PM roycroft: and we're still at 43 degrees, so i think that's going to be it
07:42 PM roycroft: it still sets the all-time highest recorded temperature, but it's not quite as bad as forecast
07:42 PM XXCoder: fun
07:42 PM roycroft: also, i have drawers!
07:42 PM roycroft: they are all isntalled
07:42 PM roycroft: i still have to make the pulls and drawer fronts, but they are fully functional now
07:45 PM roycroft: sadly, this is my last day of vacation - i had hoped to get this cabinet finished, at least to this point, on thursday, so i'd have some time to work on the mill/drill
07:46 PM andypugh_: Talkig of cabinets: https://usprotoolboxes.com/product/us-pro-tools-wood-tool-box-chest-cabinet/
07:46 PM andypugh_: Pretty.
07:47 PM XXCoder: nice
07:47 PM andypugh_: I think that a friend with a collection of Edwardian vehicles has bouhgt one.
07:48 PM andypugh_: (1908 Singer, 1914 Bulllnose Morris, 1908 Dennnis, 1914 Dennis, 1926 Thornycroft)
07:49 PM roycroft: that's not a bad looking stack, especially for the price
07:49 PM XXCoder: yeah
07:49 PM XXCoder: and thin drawers is perfect for tools
07:49 PM andypugh_: The price makes me question the quality, but the look is nice.
07:49 PM roycroft: well a gerstner would be 2x that much, just for the top chest
07:50 PM XXCoder: kenndy would be $899 for top chest
07:50 PM XXCoder: metal however
07:52 PM roycroft: https://www.penntoolco.com/2610-go/
08:58 PM XXCoder: roycroft: temp going down now
08:58 PM XXCoder: 93f
09:02 PM XXCoder: man im watching frank howarth video, and hes heavily recycling wood because its still too expensive
09:03 PM roycroft: yeah, it's down to 42 here
09:05 PM XXCoder: hes using metal corrgated board lol
09:05 PM XXCoder: because thats cheaper.
09:13 PM drdoc: Hmmm
09:13 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxhhckcS4xY if curious
09:14 PM drdoc: NNNNNG
09:15 PM drdoc: I need a low-voltage, low-current output pin on this 7i96
09:17 PM drdoc: I can't find anything definite about the isolated IO MOSFETs
09:23 PM drdoc: I guess I could do the bad thing and just measure it....
09:27 PM roycroft: frank howarth can be difficult to watch
09:27 PM roycroft: difficult to listen to, more like
09:27 PM roycroft: he mispronounces words in very odd ways that i've never heard before
09:32 PM Connor: I forgot to mention that I started up a YouTube channel a while back. Just finished up a controller for another YouTuber to convert his DiY wood lathe to CNC.
09:34 PM Connor: http://youtube.com/KnoxMachining is my channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lea7UE6zjXQ is the video of the controller.
09:34 PM Connor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRgRHzdntWo Mark @ Winky's Workshop Part one of the conversion.. You can follow the rest..
10:08 PM _unreal_: fixed my 3d printer
10:08 PM _unreal_: it was just the PSU
10:08 PM _unreal_: back to working and not running into walls
10:08 PM Tom_L: you have lots of psu problems
10:09 PM _unreal_: naa
10:09 PM _unreal_: what other psu issues have I listed?
10:10 PM Tom_L: maybe i'm thinking of somebody else, i dunno
10:11 PM _unreal_: my mpmd monopice mini delta came with a 5amp 12v psu, the machine draws 5a 12v
10:11 PM _unreal_: and can DRAW more
10:11 PM _unreal_: upgraded to a 10 amp
10:11 PM Tom_L: a plugin brick?
10:11 PM _unreal_: yep
10:12 PM _unreal_: I can hear the difference even in the steps of the motors
10:12 PM _unreal_: the old PSU was burning hot after an hour
10:12 PM _unreal_: currently printing an adapter :)
10:12 PM _unreal_: making the adapter for my cyclone
10:13 PM Tom_L: https://www.mini-box.com/AC-DC-power-supplies
10:13 PM Tom_L: if you ever need a good source for them
10:13 PM Tom_L: the bigger ones have fans
10:13 PM _unreal_: I got my off of the devils web site
10:13 PM _unreal_: mine
10:13 PM _unreal_: amazon
10:14 PM Tom_L: the've got a 12v 16A one
10:16 PM _unreal_: ya dont have a need for that currently
11:12 PM _unreal_: t4nk_fn, say that over here why don't ya....