Jun 17 2021
12:00 AM CaptHindsight[m]: I roll my fridges outside and just hose down the insides, defrost and sanitize at the same time
12:48 AM CaptHindsight[m]: testing 1 2 3
12:48 AM * XXCoder *buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*
01:13 AM Deejay: moin
01:51 AM Vq: CaptHindsight[m]: Loud and clear
01:52 AM CaptHindsight[m]: heh that was to check from libera to matrix
01:52 AM CaptHindsight[m]: was only loud in here :)
02:25 AM snakedLX is now known as snaked
04:13 AM Tom_L: morning
04:13 AM XXCoder: o/
05:19 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:45 AM Deejay: noon
05:50 AM XXCoder: very late night
06:36 AM Loetmichel: Phew. Just assembled a Hp Laserprinter. half an hour of light work... now i am sweating torrents. Boss is a cheapskate, only room in the company that has A/C is the measurement chamber.
06:49 AM JT-Cave: my servo driver arrived in St. Louis last night... tracking still says expected delivery saturday
06:55 AM JT-Cave: I saw car haulers unloading chevy trucks at the dealer yesterday
07:43 AM CloudEvil: https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07CXJG3VJ Buy or DIY a cooling jacket
07:44 AM CloudEvil: Leetle pump, small battery pack, aquarium tubing, fittings, couple of t-shirts.
07:45 AM JT-Cave: the bitch that filed a paypal claim her package is in AU now
09:34 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +o by platinum.libera.chat
09:39 AM Roguish: all quiet on the western front.............. gonna be toasty today 100+
10:12 AM Loetmichel: CloudEvil: been there done that. But whole body and in a Scifi-costume with some peltiers in the backpack for cooling, not ice
10:13 AM Loetmichel: works well enough
10:13 AM CloudEvil: yeah.
10:13 AM Loetmichel: and one gets used to wear 40kg of tech surprisingly fast.
10:13 AM CloudEvil: Ice has comparable energy storage per kilo to lithium-ion IIRC
10:13 AM CloudEvil: once you go through the peliter and all other things. And is quite a bit cheaper.
10:14 AM CloudEvil: If you have access to local power, then peltier is of course the way to go
10:14 AM Loetmichel: thats why the costume had a modified 3,5cc glow engine genset, to work with the camping gaz cartridge in the backpack.
10:14 AM CloudEvil: at that point, adsorbtion refrigerator may almost be easier
10:15 AM Loetmichel: batteries wer NiCd, it was 30 years ago.
10:15 AM Loetmichel: could operate half an hour on battery then start the engine to recharge the pack.
10:16 AM Loetmichel: engine could also heat up the water to provide warmth in the winter. Didnt need that function often though.
10:46 AM roycroft: a murder hornet was found in snohomish county, washington (just north of seattle)
10:46 AM roycroft: and it's a different type to the ones found in northwest washington and british columbia
10:47 AM CloudEvil: If it's a different type, maybe it's just a 3rd degree manslaughter hornet?
10:50 AM roycroft: different species
10:50 AM roycroft: but still considered as harmful
11:07 AM roycroft: aah, the fuses for my mill/drill are awaiting me at the post office
11:07 AM * roycroft will pick them up at lunch time, and hopefully the machine will work again
11:21 AM norias: CaptHindsight[m]: https://www.merl.com/publications/docs/TR2012-025.pdf
11:22 AM norias: CaptHindsight[m]: I'm starting to think that FreeCAD is probably a bad base for doing the 5 axis stuff you want to do
12:44 PM veegee: Pepto bismol is such a beautiful thing
12:44 PM veegee: Got through the night easy
12:45 PM veegee: the bismuth coats the intestines and reduces the ability of certain bacteria to bind to the walls. No one really knows its mechanism of action, but it works
12:47 PM * roycroft prefers to just not eat rotten food
01:20 PM Roguish: alright. 11am and it's only 92
01:34 PM JT-Shop: YIPPIE it'
01:34 PM JT-Shop: s the weekend
01:36 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +o by ChanServ
01:39 PM jepler: CaptHindsight: OK I've tried again to set up the bridge. This time I got to the step of confirming it with a message on IRC..
01:40 PM jepler_: CaptHindsight[m]: oh maybe it's working
01:41 PM jepler: CaptHindsight: I message I sent via matrix in #LCNC:matrix.org was visible to me in an irssi client on libera, but a message I sent from irssi on libera didn't appear here.
01:42 PM CaptHindsight[m]: oh see your message in both
01:42 PM jepler: The message that didn't appear for me in both places was "oh maybe it's working"
01:44 PM jepler_: testing again
01:44 PM jepler_: okay maybe it's going both ways now. Yay.
01:44 PM CaptHindsight[m]: \0/
01:45 PM CaptHindsight[m]: that was easy :)
01:45 PM jepler: hee hee
01:46 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the Discord admin for #linuxcnc never accepted our bridge invite
01:46 PM CaptHindsight[m]: from Matrix
01:46 PM jepler: oh well
01:47 PM jepler: I use Discord so I added that to my "servers" but I haven't participated there.
01:47 PM CaptHindsight[m]: not sure how to connect Discord if he even was around or cooperative
01:47 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it gets fairly busy at times
01:48 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it has two channels, one for general discussion and another for adavnced
01:48 PM CaptHindsight[m]: people complained about too many conversations overlapping each other
01:52 PM CaptHindsight[m]: rs: "does being connected to LinuxCNC-room in matrix and #linuxcnc.libera via matrix irc bridge count as "double bridging"?" apparently NO, as it is currently working
01:56 PM roycroft: well, bummer
01:56 PM roycroft: i replaced the fuse on my mill/drill, and now instead of getting nothing at all the fault light comes on when i turn it on
01:57 PM roycroft: i guess it's time to dig in deeper
01:57 PM roycroft: which i don't mind, except that means moving the machine, and it's one of two machines in my shop that are not on casters
01:58 PM roycroft: i bought casters for it a few months ago, and have been trying to carve out some time to install them
01:58 PM roycroft: i guess my hand is being forced now
02:03 PM * roycroft thinks he'll be adjusting his vacation plans
02:16 PM veegee: rs[m] what's the [m] for? CaptHindsight has it too
02:16 PM Tom_L: veegee, the matrix bridge
02:16 PM veegee: Something your IRC client does automatically?
02:16 PM Tom_L: no
02:16 PM Tom_L: they're on matrix
02:16 PM veegee: OH
02:16 PM Tom_L: and have joined this thru there
02:17 PM veegee: I just wrote my own IRC relay
02:17 PM Tom_L: if you dl riot and join, you'll see this echo'd there
02:17 PM veegee: so I can be logged in from multiple places without having multiple accounts
02:17 PM veegee: I didn't even know that existed
02:18 PM Tom_L: now you can spam even more
02:18 PM Tom_L: i think it got started when the qtpyvcp developers set their channel up there
02:19 PM CaptHindsight[m]: not every message makes it across to Matrix
02:19 PM Tom_L: why is that?
02:19 PM veegee: but my program works flawlessly :)
02:20 PM veegee: only time I go offline is if I reboot my server
02:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the bridgework is still new, might be bandwidth as well
02:21 PM Tom_L: i was on riot but i couldn't tell if it was working or not
02:22 PM CaptHindsight[m]: more doubtful hypothesis, it has something against Canadians :)
02:24 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so it was Libera all along that does not allow a double bridge
02:26 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Matrix <--> Libera is fine, adding the Matrix <--> Discord bot is not allowed at the same time
02:28 PM perry_j1987: woohoo bitsetter is arriving today day early
02:29 PM JT-Shop: yea the drive is in Cape Girardeau!!! that's 1.5 hours from here
02:30 PM veegee: Time to make a HSS blade for my reciprocating saw
02:30 PM veegee: all the commercially available ones are flexible
02:30 PM veegee: Need something rigid and sharp
02:51 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, maybe tomorow?
02:54 PM JT-Shop: that's what I'm thinking
02:54 PM Tom_L: afik weekend is here as well
02:56 PM JT-Shop: my weekend started a couple of hours ago
02:56 PM JT-Shop: spoke machine guy has to move a shaft down :)
02:56 PM Tom_L: oh?
02:57 PM Tom_L: something in the way?
02:58 PM JT-Shop: I told them from the git go they would have to move the shaft down
02:58 PM JT-Shop: it's the shaft with the cam that makes the butt end of the handle oval
02:58 PM Tom_L: oh
03:03 PM rs[m]: so it seems matrix bridge is up?
03:03 PM rs[m]: strange
03:05 PM roycroft: how does this bridge work?
03:05 PM roycroft: do all libera users see all matrix users and vice-versa?
03:05 PM roycroft: or is just done on a per-client basis?
03:05 PM Tom_L: yes
03:06 PM Tom_L: join matrix and you'll see that you echo there
03:06 PM rmu: there are 2 possibilities. there is a matrix room LinuxCNC that is bridged into this room
03:08 PM rmu: so as a matrix user you can either join the bridged room or bridge into a irc room
03:08 PM roycroft: yes to which?
03:08 PM rmu: i'm currently connected via irc as this
03:08 PM rs[m]: this is me via matrix linuxcnc room
03:08 PM * roycroft will just have to investigate matrix when he has the time
03:08 PM rs[m]: and this is me via irc bridge into libera
03:09 PM * JT-Shop fires up his g code tool
03:09 PM rmu: split brain
03:09 PM * Tom_L has his on fire already
03:09 PM Tom_L: working on a new setup
03:09 PM roycroft: oh, yeah, i'll need to install weechat-matrix, and i think there some dependency issues on debian 10 with that
03:10 PM rmu: the matrix room is called #LCNC:matrix.org
03:10 PM roycroft: thanks, i'll try to remember
03:10 PM roycroft: i have to install software first, though, and i haven't the time to deal with that right now
03:14 PM rs[m]: I'm running weechat on ubuntu 20.04 with matrix plugin
03:20 PM * JT-Shop ponders the best way to size the long ends of a 0.9375 x 0.125 x 4.25 soft aluminum
03:20 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I wonder if a bridge from Discord to Libera will work to join all three services?
03:22 PM roycroft: one bridge to rule them all
03:23 PM * JT-Shop has no clue what a discord is or does
03:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: JT-Shop: https://discord.gg/n9VKNJKD
03:26 PM JT-Shop: looks like it's for children lol
03:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah, it started out mainly for gamers
03:28 PM CaptHindsight[m]: but it keeps a log, allows voice and video chat, posts oreviews of images and videos posted etc
03:28 PM JT-Shop: I'll stick to plain hexchat, I don't need flying nomes lol
03:28 PM CaptHindsight[m]: * but it keeps a log, allows voice and video chat, posts previews of images and videos posted etc
03:29 PM CaptHindsight[m]: with the right settings Discord looks like a grown up service
03:37 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, got any softjaws?
03:41 PM JT-Shop: yes, why?
03:42 PM Tom_L: how much do you need off that side?
03:43 PM Tom_L: cut a step in the jaws that depth then face the part off flush with the jaws
03:43 PM roycroft: i just use a curses-based client
03:43 PM Tom_L: i use a tin can and string
03:43 PM roycroft: i don't see how a chat protocol needs anything fancier
03:43 PM JT-Shop: I need to shorten the 4.250 down to 4.000
03:44 PM JT-Shop: oh no the 0.125 is ok
03:44 PM Tom_L: so cut the same step then mill the end off
03:44 PM Tom_L: make it so it sticks out the .250 you need off then use and EM to cut it off in Y
03:45 PM Tom_L: flush with the jaws
03:45 PM Tom_L: or just guess and use some tin snips
03:46 PM JT-Shop: when I do that I set a stop on the left side so more than needs to be removed sticks out then mill it off using the dro for proper size
03:46 PM JT-Shop: but can't do that today on the BP lol
03:46 PM Tom_L: disk sander
03:48 PM JT-Shop: yuck
03:49 PM Tom_L: no cnc to use?
03:50 PM JT-Shop: I could use the VMC or wait until tomorrow
03:53 PM Tom_L: wait broke the bridge
03:54 PM Tom_L: this damn model isn't cooperating
03:59 PM JT-Shop: rut row
04:15 PM CaptHindsight[m]: again!
04:16 PM _unreal_: SWEET got my fan
04:16 PM _unreal_: upgrading my cnc's dust collecting
04:25 PM Connor: Having some issues with backlash comp.. Can't tell it's working..
04:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Connor: did it work before or is this a new setup?
04:27 PM Connor: new setup.
04:29 PM roguish[m]: Connor: exaggerate the amount, like to 1/4 inch or so, and watch.......
04:30 PM roguish[m]: it wiill jump at the direction changes
04:30 PM roguish[m]: be careful, it will also be very unstable.
04:31 PM Connor: Changing my testing method. Testing again.
04:33 PM Connor: MAX_ACCELERATION = 15.0
04:33 PM Connor: STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 30
04:37 PM perry_j1987: hows it goin
04:37 PM JT-Shop: yo
04:38 PM JT-Shop: trying to decide if I want to start over sharpening this kitchen knife...
04:38 PM roguish[m]: JT-Shop: hey , what physical switches do you have on your BP controls?
04:39 PM roguish[m]: i'm laying out my controls..........
04:43 PM perry_j1987: i need to find some macros for bitsetters and linuxcnc to look at implementin this thing
04:45 PM Connor: BACKLASH was moved to JOIN vs AXIS. Was looking at older documentation. Doh!
04:45 PM Connor: Stupid google search
04:47 PM JT-Shop: mpg, axis selector, jog increment selector, estop
04:48 PM Tom_L: pause, run if you want
04:48 PM Tom_L: those are on my pendant
04:49 PM Tom_L: tool change
04:49 PM Tom_L: depends how cluttered you want your front pannel :)
04:50 PM JT-Shop: everything else is on the touch screen
04:50 PM JT-Shop: roguish[m], it really depends on your work flow
04:50 PM Tom_L: yeah i didn't know what gui he's using
04:50 PM roguish[m]: ok, so you keep it really simple.
04:50 PM roguish[m]: me too generally
04:51 PM roguish[m]: do you have IY pendant? or a purchased one?
04:51 PM roguish[m]: DIY pendand
04:51 PM Tom_L: mine is diy
04:52 PM JT-Shop: no pendant needed when the touch screen is in your face
04:52 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant/pendant2.jpg
04:52 PM roguish[m]: Tom_L: not sure on the gui yet. either a qtpyvcp or a qtdragon. not sure yet.
04:53 PM roycroft: and that frees your hands up too, as you can use your nose to operate the touch screen
04:54 PM roguish[m]: Tom_L: hey, you have a .biz domain. so do I.
04:55 PM Tom_L: i have to use an alternate port, my isp blocks 80
04:55 PM roguish[m]: Tom_L: you have a lot of wires into that pendant............
04:56 PM Tom_L: several
04:56 PM Tom_L: db25 to the control box
04:56 PM roguish[m]: all pins used?
04:56 PM Tom_L: no
04:57 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/NEW_MILL_SHOP_2.8.1/New_Mill_IO_Pinout.pdf
04:57 PM Tom_L: P3 shows the pendant
04:58 PM Tom_L: looks like most get used somehow
05:00 PM JT-Shop: roguish[m], keep in mind any of the gui's you pick except qtpyvcp you have to take what the programmer thinks he wants in a gui
05:00 PM * Tom_L gives up on this model for today
05:02 PM roguish[m]: hey, don't be a quitter....
05:03 PM roguish[m]: work in progress.............
05:03 PM * roguish[m] uploaded an image: (4748KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/InTqdInqrSmVQtrwdNbtaOcX/20210617_144740.jpg >
05:03 PM Tom_L: i likely won't machine it that way anyway
05:06 PM JT-Shop: roguish[m], what cards are those?
05:06 PM JT-Shop: you have that pretty 50 conductor wire lol
05:07 PM Tom_L: heh i was gonna say...
05:07 PM Tom_L: i used to have some but used it up
05:07 PM roguish[m]: 7i80 is main. 7i33 for the drives, 7i37 for io, and 2 7i42 insurance cards.
05:08 PM roguish[m]: spindle vfd in upper left. 3 amc analog drives lower left.
05:08 PM JT-Shop: the chnc has 5i20 with 7i33 and 7i37 but those cards are expensive compared to current
05:08 PM roguish[m]: especially that 5i20
05:08 PM JT-Shop: aye
05:09 PM JT-Shop: 5i24 is a better choice for that system if the 5i20 dies
05:09 PM Tom_L: check all your psu before you plug them _all_ in :)
05:09 PM roguish[m]: like my ground buss bar in the bottom? out of a house panel...lol
05:09 PM JT-Shop: I like to put my ground bar close to everything if possible
05:10 PM roguish[m]: Tom_L: oh yeah. i'm really good at letting the smoke out.
05:10 PM JT-Shop: I forget which card the 5v is reverse of all the rest but usb 5v is not enough to hurt it
05:12 PM roguish[m]: have 3 contactors delivering tomorrow from ebay. one main, one for the dc ps (63v 24A)
05:12 PM roguish[m]: the drives are huge for the machine. 20A cont, 25A peak, each. 80v rating
05:13 PM roguish[m]: and a spare......
05:15 PM Tom_L: lots of fuses or breakers
05:15 PM JT-Shop: I have a spare servo and drive for the BP but both are broken...
05:16 PM roguish[m]: using 24v dc for a couple pneumatic valves, and simple relays.
05:16 PM JT-Shop: I always use breakers
05:16 PM roguish[m]: the 78i42
05:16 PM Tom_L: i was gonna grab a couple of those you had but they were already gone
05:17 PM JT-Shop: what's that?
05:17 PM roguish[m]: 7i42's shield the 7i80 from bad voltage
05:17 PM Tom_L: breakers
05:17 PM Tom_L: i've got fuses right now and they seem to be doing fine
05:18 PM roguish[m]: i've had long discussions with PCW.
05:18 PM roguish[m]: he's really fun and educational to chat with.
05:18 PM roguish[m]: knows his shit.
05:18 PM Tom_L: does that
05:20 PM JT-Shop: I still have a bunch of schneider 1 and 2 amp din rail breakers
05:20 PM JT-Shop: I don't know how he keeps all that in his head
05:20 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure what size i was looking for
05:21 PM Tom_L: same way you know how to automate a spoke machine
05:22 PM JT-Shop: aye I can build a machine in my head but can't tell you what color goes with what
05:24 PM roguish[m]: woe. it's up to 103.5 outside.........
05:24 PM Tom_L: it's a chilly 99F here
05:25 PM roguish[m]: my weather station https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KCAWALNU149
05:25 PM JT-Shop: I think I'll get a jacket it's down to 91f
05:26 PM JT-Shop: roguish[m], is that delixi an overload?
05:26 PM JT-Shop: I used to see similar on german equipment
05:26 PM roguish[m]: yes. came with the machine.
05:27 PM Tom_L: came with a control box?
05:27 PM Tom_L: i had to get one for mine and i wish i'd have gotten a bigger one
05:27 PM roguish[m]: yeah. with the mill as new
05:28 PM Tom_L: but i did get it all in there, it just doesn't look as pretty as your layout
05:28 PM Tom_L: and it runs solid
05:28 PM roguish[m]: not sure if it's really needed. the VFD does a pretty good job of protecting the motor.
05:29 PM roguish[m]: this mill has a factory installed Delta VFD for the spindle. 2hp, single phase input 220.
05:30 PM CaptHindsight[m]: HUMIDITY 16 % will trade
05:30 PM Tom_L: i think this one is rated for 2hp
05:30 PM Tom_L: 110v input
05:31 PM roguish[m]: the controls had some wierd stuff. time delays between the spindle on/off buttons and the VFD.
05:31 PM _unreal_: hum designing a hose reciver right now in cad
05:32 PM _unreal_: for my new blower
05:32 PM roguish[m]: and the supplied wiring diagram was only an estimate.
05:32 PM Tom_L: i did time delays on my sherline motor relas so i could get reverse
05:32 PM Tom_L: without blowing the relays up
05:32 PM _unreal_: You guys will love my dust collection system when it is done
05:32 PM _unreal_: totally love it. and its really small
05:33 PM _unreal_: sure its not going to be as efficient as a larger setup would be but then again my machine is small and my setup is cramped
05:33 PM _unreal_: time for more PIM's
05:33 PM roguish[m]: and the controls were all 24v AC. hate that.
05:33 PM _unreal_: got to love wisky
05:33 PM _unreal_: my controller is a 24v DC for the blower
05:33 PM _unreal_: :)
05:34 PM _unreal_: has are lovely lady who shows up in freenode/lcnc migraded to libra yet?
05:34 PM _unreal_: or does she even know? I have not seen her
06:17 PM JT-Cave: 24vac that's weird
06:19 PM roguish[m]: I think it' asian.....
06:19 PM roguish[m]: up to 107 now.............still time to creep a bit higher..........
06:20 PM roguish[m]: got the 4 window ac's blowing
06:24 PM JT-Cave: 90°F
06:24 PM JT-Cave: tomorrow 95°F
06:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: same here through the weekend then 70's next week!
06:26 PM roguish[m]: how the humidity? out here it's really low. 28% now.
06:26 PM roguish[m]: dry heat.
06:26 PM Tom_L: 72F
06:26 PM roguish[m]: how's the swamp?
06:26 PM Tom_L: oh wait.. that's not outside... 98F
06:27 PM roycroft: it's going to get up to 37 here on monday
06:27 PM roycroft: and juneteenth is now an official federal holiday
06:27 PM roycroft: the president just signed the bill
06:28 PM roguish[m]: oh, yeah. any idea what that's going to cost the non-government worker in taxes?
06:28 PM CaptHindsight[m]: roycroft: you should be baking most of the summer from what the long term forecasts say
06:29 PM CaptHindsight[m]: it's a free holiday
06:29 PM roguish[m]: free to who?
06:29 PM CaptHindsight[m]: pretty sure the Mexicans are paying for it
06:30 PM roguish[m]: oh that's right, just fire up those printing presses........
06:30 PM hazzy[m]: It's just paper after all.
06:30 PM Tom_L: roguish[m], who? kim jong un? or the us treas?
06:31 PM roguish[m]: https://www.usdebtclock.org/
06:31 PM CaptHindsight[m]: trickle down holiday
06:31 PM roycroft: i'll repeat
06:31 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah been giving it to the wrong people
06:31 PM Tom_L: no need roy
06:31 PM roycroft: if anyone is concerened about the cost, we can just eliminate columbus day
06:32 PM roycroft: then it's a wash
06:32 PM roguish[m]: now don't start on that very slimey slope
06:32 PM roycroft: i need to go out to the shop, so i'll not go any further with it
06:32 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Mexican Trickle Down
06:32 PM roycroft: it's a good holiday for us to have
06:33 PM roycroft: that's my final word on the matter :)
06:33 PM Tom_L: don't see it doing squat for me
06:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: holiday or illness?
06:33 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yes, all holidays should do something for me, myself and I
06:34 PM Tom_L: absolutely
06:34 PM Tom_L: that's why i celebrate them!
06:34 PM CaptHindsight[m]: national candy Day
06:34 PM roguish[m]: beer and bbq day
06:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: What about me day
06:35 PM roguish[m]: you day?
06:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: nothing would change much around here, could be a whole month
06:35 PM CaptHindsight[m]: yeah you
06:36 PM CaptHindsight[m]: all the you's
06:37 PM CaptHindsight[m]: same with petty complaints day, petty tyrants and self important week
07:11 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/44880102/122229068-6e83c100-ce86-11eb-9814-1199550dd265.mp4 ROS LinuxCNC Link can follow the arc's in a program.
07:11 PM CaptHindsight[m]: The opencascade abscissa is used for this implementation.
07:15 PM Tom_L: is that what you're working on?
07:16 PM XXCoder: "skynet projects" umm
07:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/42008-ros-linuxcnc-link?start=120#212200
07:16 PM CaptHindsight[m]: no, but related
07:27 PM flyback: BMCC
09:13 PM tiwake[m]: beerfactory is just an example... there are lots of others (or host your own - not hard) because matrix.org is a little weirdness
09:43 PM perry_j1987: hows it goin
10:00 PM perry_j1987: thinking about buying one of these 130-150 dollar 5c chucks
10:01 PM tiwake[m]: I just bought some brown&sharp dial calipers
10:01 PM tiwake[m]: holy shit they are nice
10:04 PM CloudEvil: perry_j1987: I bought two for $20 each. Seemingly a misprice.
10:04 PM perry_j1987: nice
10:04 PM perry_j1987: need both of em CloudEvil ? :P
10:04 PM CloudEvil: They are unrusty and roughly the right shape. I have yet to properly measure them.
10:04 PM CloudEvil: Alas yes.
10:09 PM perry_j1987: i got one of these today https://amzn.to/3cRpkV5 im researching how to configure it on my machine now
10:09 PM XXCoder: nice
10:09 PM XXCoder: i LOVE NC
10:09 PM XXCoder: much less risk than NO
10:09 PM XXCoder: just say NO to NO ;)
10:10 PM tiwake[m]: NO? NC?
10:10 PM Tom_L: not quite done but close: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/A12_New/Visejaws.jpg
10:10 PM Tom_L: P1 P2 P3
10:10 PM XXCoder: normally open, normally closed
10:10 PM XXCoder: problem with NO is that if wire breaks, it is going to stay open as your machine crushes button
10:11 PM tiwake[m]: isn't that what limit switches are for?
10:11 PM XXCoder: its for tool probing
10:11 PM Tom_L: also NC
10:11 PM XXCoder: perry's link
10:11 PM tiwake[m]: sure
10:11 PM XXCoder: and yes
10:12 PM XXCoder: never wire limit switches to be NO also
10:12 PM XXCoder: like I said, No to all NO
10:12 PM Tom_L: NO NO!
10:12 PM tiwake[m]: sounds good
10:12 PM XXCoder: so a 4 parter jaw
10:13 PM XXCoder: i guess you would use dummy part on leftmost when starting production
10:13 PM XXCoder: for hold evenness
10:13 PM Tom_L: last time i ran those was on that little crappy sherline vise
10:13 PM tiwake[m]: I was thinking about making a simple machine for work to cut wire
10:14 PM Tom_L: or run P1 P2 and stop and start over
10:14 PM Tom_L: well that wouldn't work either..
10:14 PM tiwake[m]: 3/16" for the thickest, 3/32 for the thinnest
10:17 PM tiwake[m]: MexicoPaysForItDay: what are you up to these days?
10:18 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I try to fit in a half day of sleep when I'm not working
10:19 PM CaptHindsight[m]: finishing up some car projects for family
10:20 PM Tom_L: XXCoder, if i had that keyseat cutter there would only be 2 positions
10:20 PM XXCoder: indeed
10:20 PM CaptHindsight[m]: https://i.imgur.com/IBZWuGe.jpg is near complete, and this is just starting https://i.imgur.com/wzV3l4z.jpg
10:20 PM Tom_L: i did find one that would work
10:21 PM CaptHindsight[m]: tiwake: how about you?
10:21 PM tiwake[m]: last week was working 65 hours excluding commute times and lunch and stuff
10:22 PM tiwake[m]: spare time been trying to fix house plumbing
10:22 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I've been 12 hours on, 12 off most days
10:22 PM tiwake[m]: ground is so close to the house I need to dig out under the house to even get to it
10:22 PM CaptHindsight[m]: just a crawl space under the house?
10:23 PM tiwake[m]: I'm doing a trench :P
10:23 PM tiwake[m]: cause I don't like crawling
10:23 PM tiwake[m]: might turn it into a basement, iunno
10:23 PM tiwake[m]: need to level the house too
10:24 PM CaptHindsight[m]: so just minor repairs :)
10:24 PM CaptHindsight[m]: the first car started out as a weekend paint job
10:25 PM tiwake[m]: need to level the house before I replace the counter tops and windows
10:25 PM Tom_L: tiwake[m], just drive a cat under it: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/house/1.jpg
10:25 PM CaptHindsight[m]: became a complete tear down and rebuild
10:25 PM tiwake[m]: lul
10:26 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/house/9.jpg
10:26 PM tiwake[m]: I also need to replace all the plumbing... its 1950's vintage steel pipe that is rusting really bad internally
10:26 PM Tom_L: i did plumbing, hvac, sewer, wiring pretty much all of it
10:27 PM tiwake[m]: yeah
10:27 PM Tom_L: i was young and stupid
10:27 PM tiwake[m]: foundation and plumbing comes first though
10:27 PM CaptHindsight[m]: my last house was built ~1880, sold it before I finished tearing it all out
10:27 PM tiwake[m]: MexicoPaysForItDay: wasn't that about when you were born though?
10:28 PM CaptHindsight[m]: no, I go back to 1863
10:28 PM tiwake[m]: lul
10:36 PM Bleepshop: tiwake[m]: If it's just dirt without too many big rocks a Shop-vac is a simple way to move lots of dirt without having to haul it out up through an access hatch bucket at a time.
10:38 PM * Bleepshop moved 1000+ kg for a 90' access tunnel for a plumbing repair with a $100 Rigid.
10:39 PM CaptHindsight[m]: jepler: Question to admins: any ideas how to get a 3-way bridge from Matrix - Discord - Libera ?
10:39 PM CaptHindsight[m]: Answer from admins:
10:39 PM CaptHindsight[m]: "Usually neither Libera, FN, OFTC allows double bridging; but depending on member count etc. and after some verification, matrix.org staff might set an exception for your room, email email@example.com for more on that."
10:39 PM CloudEvil: Bleepshop: pressure washer can also work to break up some soils.
10:40 PM Bleepshop: 2" foam core ABS drain pipe for extenders and 2" threaded adapters with the threads mostly filed off to get to the vac hose and back.
10:42 PM Bleepshop: CloudEvil: Year, but that leaves a soggy mess if you're lucky or around here quicksand. LOL
10:42 PM CloudEvil: Indeed.
10:44 PM Bleepshop: I've actually got a pair of catch barrels for the vac now so it'd be even easier. Scale under the barrel and a helper watching the scale, swapping/dumping barrels when they hit a set weight.
10:47 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I considered lowering the basement floor of a 1,000 sq ft basement (92 sq m)
10:48 PM CaptHindsight[m]: while living above it
10:49 PM CaptHindsight[m]: unfortunately the sewer line was placed directly under from back to front and out to the street
10:49 PM CaptHindsight[m]: would have only gained a foot (.3m) without also lowering the sewer line
10:49 PM CloudEvil: Make it a feature. Nice bench.
10:50 PM CaptHindsight[m]: I didn't want to live without a sewer line for a few months
10:51 PM CaptHindsight[m]: if it was transparent it could have been a nice feature
10:52 PM Bleepshop: CaptHindsight[m]: I can see it now... A webcam pointed at it and Taco Tuesday... ;D
10:53 PM CaptHindsight[m]: "so kids, this why we have a sewer line vs a pit under the house"
10:54 PM Bleepshop: CaptHindsight[m]: So you can flush twice since it's a long way to the Capitol ? xD
10:58 PM CaptHindsight[m]: we don't have fat burning spray foam here do we? https://i.imgur.com/BdJAScA.jpg (late night Chinese infomercial)
10:59 PM CaptHindsight[m]: wish i had the complete video, they place a slab of bacon on a scale and show the weight before and after
11:15 PM Bleepshop: CaptHindsight[m]: It's better than the ones that Google translate can't decide if the product is an aphrodisiac or a floor wax... But it's guaranteed not to leave a waxy yellow buildup either way... ;D