#linuxcnc Logs

Feb 26 2021

01:21 AM Deejay: moin
01:31 AM CaptHindsight: I much prefer making machines to running them
01:40 AM roycroft: i'd be happy to have you do the cnc conversion on my milling machine
01:40 AM roycroft: you would not even have to pay me for all the joy it would bring you
02:07 AM CaptHindsight: is this a real CNC machine? :)
02:08 AM CaptHindsight: not one of those half wood, drawer slides and pipe hardware CNC's
02:09 AM CaptHindsight: though they may be fun as an art project
06:26 AM JT-Cave: morning
06:44 AM JT-Cave: https://www.lifespacegardens.com/blogs/garden-tutorials/how-to-build-your-own-diy-self-watering-garden
07:08 AM Loetmichel: MAAN, how do i manage to injure myself all the time? just leaned onto a shelf board with my right short rib to test the strenght of the board. ... *knack* ... no breathing hurts... **grmbl**
07:14 AM enleth: Loetmichel: the upside is, you don't have to do anything to treat a false rib fracture. the downside is, you can't do anything to treat it.
07:14 AM enleth: good luck, been there
07:14 AM Loetmichel: enleth: doubt that it is a fracture. probably just popped somthing out of place
07:15 AM Loetmichel: a fracture hurts MORE. Been there done that.
07:15 AM Loetmichel: its just annoying the heck out of me while working.
07:16 AM enleth: ah, some people have slightly more "play" in the cartilage that holds those ribs and they can indeed shift or rock a bit
07:17 AM Loetmichel: <-not getting younger
07:46 AM gloops: ligaments get less stretchy and more brittle as old age creeps in
07:47 AM gloops: i think a broken bone is better in many cases, immobilise the break for a month or 2 youre off again
07:48 AM gloops: torn ligaments - different matter, theyre fluid parts, can be difficult to knit again
07:50 AM gloops: (as i have discovered..)
07:54 AM Loetmichel: gloops: s/2 months/3weeks
07:55 AM Loetmichel: and for the other part: as long as my heart is still pumping and i retain enough blood inside i will probably heal from everything else. which is a blessing and a curse... you get careless ;)
07:58 AM JavaBean: its amazing just how many times you can "find" heavy durable items with your skull, as well
08:03 AM enleth: shins would work better without the automatic outside corner detection feature, too
08:04 AM Tom_L: you have proof of that ehh?
08:38 AM JavaBean: shins??? pinkie toes are better for finding "outside corners"
08:57 AM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-4-Shank-CNC-Spoilboard-Surfacing-Bottom-Carbide-Tipped-Router-Cutter-Bit/124580997380? looked a bargain..but..doesnt feel right
08:59 AM gloops: 1 feedback
09:00 AM gloops: actually now i look the price of those facing cutters has dropped through the floor, they were pretty steep a year ago
09:48 AM sensille: Loetmichel: 1200mm/min is soooo slow!
10:14 AM Loetmichel: sometimes it is.
10:23 AM Tom_L: Loetmichel, it's friday... still got all 10 fingers?
10:24 AM JT-Shop: ROFLMAO
10:29 AM sensille: i had to redo my config. since then, g38.2 doesn't work anymore, "probe already triggered". but the probe works fine with jogging moves
10:30 AM sensille: are those two configured in different places? i use stepconf
10:35 AM JT-Shop: g38.x works for me...
10:40 AM roycroft: it is friday indeed
10:41 AM roycroft: and my hour meters are finally out for delivery
10:41 AM roycroft: the seller has also shipped another set of the
10:41 AM roycroft: m
10:41 AM roycroft: when those arrive i'll offer to return them if the seller sends me a return shipping label, but the seller probably won't bother doing that
10:43 AM jymmmm: morning
10:44 AM Tom_L: hi
10:52 AM Loetmichel: Tom_L: yep. but a bruised rib. :)
11:33 AM Eric__: how do you tell amazon you got a package and a refund?
11:34 AM gloops: why would you tell amazon you got a package and a refund? lol
11:36 AM roycroft: because it's the right thing to do
11:36 AM roycroft: and i contact customer service when i need to do that
11:36 AM Eric__: they certainly don't make it easy
11:37 AM roycroft: sometimes that's the case
11:37 AM roycroft: personally, i give it a go until it becomes a hassle
11:37 AM roycroft: at which point i feel i've done what i should
11:38 AM gloops: cant get through to them if you want to report a missing parcel
11:49 AM roycroft: i never have any trouble contacting amazon customer support
11:49 AM roycroft: i just ring them up and there they are
11:50 AM roycroft: no wait, no hassle
12:07 PM roycroft: now apple, on the other hand, are frustrating beyond reason to deal with
12:07 PM * roycroft is in an indeterminate hold queue again
12:11 PM Eric__: don't they offer the opportunity to be called back?
12:38 PM roycroft: and at long last, i have been able to change my apple id
12:39 PM roycroft: a process which i started in march of last year
12:39 PM Tom_L: what's the rush?
12:41 PM roycroft: i got an offer of $70k to sell the domain with which my apple id was associated then
12:41 PM roycroft: hopefully, one can understand my desire to get it changed
12:42 PM roycroft: that offer has long expired, and i had a number of other things to change before i could sell the domain anyway, but i decided to make it ready to sell
12:42 PM roycroft: and changing my apple id was the very last thing that i needed to do for that
12:43 PM roycroft: so now i'll monitor the old email address for another month, go through all my correspondence and make absolutely certain i've updated my address with everyone i care about, and then i can sell it
01:34 PM internut: wow, what domain fetches $70k?
01:34 PM internut: if you don't mind my asking
01:35 PM roycroft: a three letter .com domain
01:35 PM roycroft: and i should be able to get much more than that for it
01:36 PM Connor: I own a 4 letter .com and .net pair.
01:36 PM roycroft: those are valuable, but not as much as 3 letter ones
01:36 PM internut: wow
01:36 PM Connor: Yup.
01:36 PM roycroft: and most .net domains are not worth much
01:36 PM Connor: Well, as a pair, it ups the value.
01:36 PM internut: I've got the internut.com domain
01:36 PM internut: :)
01:36 PM roycroft: when i am finally ready to sell, i'm thinking $120k is where i'll be at
01:37 PM internut: I've sold a few
01:37 PM Connor: I sold a .net for $20k years and years ago. Wasn't even a short letter domain either.
01:37 PM internut: never for that kind of money
01:37 PM roycroft: in the meantime i'll focus on finding that passphrase for my bitcoin wallet :)
01:37 PM internut: seriously?
01:37 PM roycroft: i mined almost 2 bitcoins a few years ago
01:37 PM internut: guessing no
01:38 PM roycroft: i'm actually serious
01:38 PM internut: oh, that's worth a bit
01:38 PM roycroft: bitcoin was not worth much at the time
01:38 PM internut: well, build a quantum computer and figure it out
01:38 PM Connor: omg, that domain is available again.
01:38 PM roycroft: it started costing me more for the electricity to operate the miner than the value of the bitcoin
01:38 PM roycroft: so i put that project aside
01:39 PM roycroft: and misplaced the passphrase for the wallet
01:39 PM roycroft: i *know* i printed a hardcopy for safekeeping, and i'm about 99.999% certain that i did not discard/shred/whatever that hardcopy
01:39 PM roycroft: i still have a few boxes of paperwork to scan and shred
01:40 PM roycroft: i'm fairly convinced that the passphrase will be at the very bottom of the last box, no matter what order i process the boxes
01:40 PM Connor: I grantee it'll be in the last place you look!
01:40 PM roycroft: and if i decide to be clever and flip the boxes upside down before processing, it will have been at the top of the last box
01:41 PM roycroft: that it will!
01:41 PM Connor: *guarantee*
01:41 PM roycroft: i'm not too concerned about it at this point
01:41 PM internut: you remind me of something a friend did
01:41 PM roycroft: i started getting interested in finding it last year when bitcoin crossed the $10k threshhold
01:41 PM internut: his wallet got packed in the moving truck
01:41 PM roycroft: if i had found it then i'd have cashed it in then for a bit under $20k
01:41 PM roycroft: now it's worth close to $100k
01:42 PM internut: and he had no ID to go to closing on his new home
01:42 PM Connor: SOme guy I know bought a pizza with bitcoin way way back when.. something like 10 or 20 of them..
01:42 PM roycroft: so the longer it takes me to find, the more it will likely be worth
01:45 PM roycroft: it would be nice to find that passphrase
01:45 PM roycroft: selling the bitcoin won't make me rich
01:45 PM roycroft: but it would make life a little more comfortable
01:45 PM bjorkint0sh: why don't people treat the passphrase like money, and stick it in a safe at ... a bank!
01:46 PM bjorkint0sh: so many stories of passphrases going missing.
01:46 PM roycroft: bjorkint0sh: i have a password manager where i keep all that stuff these days
01:46 PM roycroft: but back when i was doing the mining i did not have that
01:46 PM roycroft: nore a safe deposit box - i was in a waiting queue to get one at the time
01:46 PM bjorkint0sh: sure. but software 'engineering' as it is, is still pretty hope-and-pray ish.
01:47 PM roycroft: i have one now, but the passphrase had already gone missing by then
01:47 PM bjorkint0sh: that's sad.
01:47 PM roycroft: actually, i'm fine with my password manager setup
01:47 PM roycroft: i have the app installed on all my devices
01:47 PM bjorkint0sh: me too. but if it's important enough, I don't trust the goons from silicon valley to keep an eye on it for me.
01:47 PM roycroft: i use my own webdav server to sync the vaults
01:48 PM roycroft: that webdav server is replicated in real time in-house, and backs up nightly to another server that own offsite
01:48 PM roycroft: i don't trust them either
01:48 PM roycroft: that's why they don't have my data
01:48 PM roycroft: the webdav server and its replication server are freenas devices, btw, which use zfs
01:49 PM roycroft: so there's next to zero chance of data corruption
01:49 PM bjorkint0sh: Of course.
01:49 PM roycroft: zfs is copy before write
01:49 PM roycroft: and its journal is very robust
01:49 PM roycroft: the storage configuration on the machines is raid 10
01:50 PM roycroft: the password manager software keeps a local copy of everything, and syncs that to the in-house cloud server on a regular basis
01:51 PM bjorkint0sh: absolutely. I bet it's unhackable too!
01:51 PM roycroft: so i have a half dozen local copies of all the data, plus the redundant onsite cloud vaults, plus the daily offsite backup of that
01:51 PM roycroft: nothing is unhackable
01:51 PM roycroft: but it would be quite difficult to hack my vaults
02:03 PM Connor: Heya, just to throw this out.. I started a Youtube channel last year.. not much on it as of yet, and it's manual machining and a shop tour.. but, I could use a few more subs to get me over a 100.
02:03 PM Connor: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkkS3mS6396xbrUITYvFwyg
02:11 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNO1N71PjaE Blow up Mini Gas Engine with Oxygen Acetylene
02:12 PM CaptHindsight: top comment "When a guy with 9 fingers says he's going to blow something up, you stop what you're doing and watch."
02:13 PM internut: wow that's a little gas engine?
02:15 PM internut: I subscribed
02:15 PM Connor: Thanks.
02:16 PM internut: that's a $300 engine
02:19 PM CaptHindsight: we had tiny 2-cycle nitromethane powered engines for planes as kids
02:19 PM internut: Yeah, I flew nitro planes and nitro helis
02:32 PM Tom_L: i did boats
03:28 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:39 PM roycroft: i need a spring steel strap for constraining wood strips when i steam bend them
03:40 PM Tom_L: most are plastic anymore
03:40 PM roycroft: the material options where i'm looking are: 1050, 1065, 1070, 1080, 1095, and 5160
03:41 PM Tom_L: uline has straps
03:41 PM roycroft: which is the most rust-resistant
03:41 PM roycroft: ?
03:41 PM Tom_L: the office supply place
03:41 PM Tom_L: like shipping straps?
03:41 PM andypugh: Why not use stainless?
03:41 PM Tom_L: harder to find
03:42 PM unterhaus_: I'm thinking about putting contactors in to control the power to my servo amps
03:42 PM roycroft: when i searched for spring steel that's what i found
03:42 PM unterhaus_: so they don't all turn on at the same time
03:42 PM roycroft: stainless would be ideal
03:43 PM roycroft: oh, i did just find some, for 10x the cost of the types above
03:43 PM roycroft: i can't really oil the straps, and i have to keep them rust-free
03:44 PM roycroft: oil or rust would spoil the parts i'm bending
03:49 PM roycroft: our governor just announce that i'll be eligible for the vaccine on 29 march
03:49 PM roycroft: that's farther out than i'd like, but since we're getting into groups with more people than the early groups, it's understandable
03:50 PM roycroft: and this is the first time i've gotten a definite date for eligiblity, other than the one she announced prematurely during the previous administration when she was lied to about availability
03:51 PM roycroft: so i guess i have to hold on for another month at least
03:54 PM roycroft: so these strips i need to bend will be really thin and narrow - 2mm/3mm by 12mm, but i need for the straps not to stretch
03:54 PM roycroft: plastic would certainly be strong enough, but i'm afraid it would stretch, which would defeat the purpose of using straps
03:55 PM roycroft: and the bends will be fairly tight, so thick straps would not work
03:56 PM roycroft: i might have to pony up for the pricey stainless ones
04:44 PM enleth: roycroft: the plastic ones are glass reinforced, you sure they're not stable enough?
04:51 PM CaptHindsight: today's bot summary: injury, parcels, data, straps, immunizations
05:41 PM roycroft: no, i'm not sure, and i did not know they're glass reinforced
05:41 PM roycroft: if i find some that are, they would likely be fine
05:42 PM roycroft: and that would be much better than getting metal ones
05:56 PM roycroft: i have hour meters
05:56 PM roycroft: i can work on my project again
05:59 PM JT-Cave: damn expensive Yuasa AGM battery died after 14 months
06:02 PM * JT-Cave wonders why anyone would want an hour meter for a bandsaw
06:04 PM Tom_L: seems like a short life
06:08 PM JT-Cave: yeah should last 5 years
06:09 PM JT-Cave: they have Lithium Ion batteries for the GL1800 now
06:11 PM Tom_L: maybe tomorrow i'll find out if that brass part i did fits
06:11 PM Tom_L: finally arrived in canada
06:13 PM JT-Cave: AFAIK that shipment to Austria is still bouncing around in the US... shipped in November... must have been hijacked by the Trump administration
06:14 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure i'd ship there again
06:15 PM JT-Cave: yea Austria via the Bahama's is nuts
06:15 PM Tom_L: they wanted $40 for tracking on that one and without it i was able to follow it's every move anyway (i already knew that)
06:15 PM Tom_L: they're just jacking ppl that are ignorant
06:16 PM JT-Cave: I don't ship to Brazil anymore because the guy was a dick head when his package got stalled
06:16 PM Tom_L: i had one is saigon that started complaining the 2nd day
06:16 PM JT-Cave: canada seems to be no problem lately
06:16 PM Tom_L: ended up eating that one
06:31 PM Tom_L: i thought 10 days was a respectable time to canada considering the last thing i sent to him took 4 weeks
06:31 PM Tom_L: their customs is screwy
06:32 PM JT-Cave: got the VMC all set up to make a part with 7 tools but the control puked on the 10,000 line g code file
06:32 PM JT-Cave: looks like it can handle < 10k lines
06:32 PM Tom_L: really?
06:32 PM JT-Cave: I've had packages to cunuk land go to the wrong city
06:32 PM Tom_L: that's the non coverted one right?
06:32 PM JT-Cave: hey it's a 386
06:33 PM JT-Cave: yea dx 32 control
06:33 PM Tom_L: ever try to dnc it?
06:33 PM JT-Cave: can't convert it unless I replace the spindle motor and drive
06:33 PM Tom_L: we had a couple we _had_ to DNC
06:34 PM JT-Cave: I just split up the g code
06:34 PM Tom_L: that works too
06:35 PM JT-Cave: dunno of the Discovery 308 can do DNC
06:35 PM JT-Cave: I try to not piss it off as it still works lol
06:38 PM Tom_L: realterm works for that pretty good
06:38 PM Tom_L: you can slow it down if need be
06:38 PM Tom_L: his run at 4800 baud and i still have to put delays between transmission
06:40 PM Tom_L: have you ever wired up a serial cable on it?
06:40 PM JT-Cave: damn that's slow... I remember playing Doom with my buddy over the phone on a 256k modem or something like that
06:40 PM JT-Cave: no
06:40 PM Tom_L: they're gettin pretty old now but he bought them new
06:40 PM JT-Cave: maybe it was a 9600 baud modem...
06:41 PM roycroft: the first computer i ever used was a remote timeshare pdp-6
06:41 PM roycroft: i accessed it via a teletype terminal with a 300 baud acoustic coupler modem
06:41 PM roycroft: 9600 baud is blazingly fast compared to that
06:42 PM JT-Cave: my first computer was and 8086
06:42 PM Tom_L: i had my 8086 up until the basement flooded
06:42 PM roycroft: even 2400 baud seemed really fast when i first connected with it
06:42 PM roycroft: this was pre-pc
06:42 PM roycroft: early '70s
06:43 PM roycroft: i started with that, learning to program in basic
06:43 PM roycroft: then i moved on to cobol, then fortran, using an ibm 360 mainframe at a classmate's fathers place of work
06:43 PM JT-Cave: everyone has settled in on the roost so I'm taking the hint and going upstairs for some chow
06:45 PM roycroft: i'd fill out coding sheets, my classmate would take them home, his father would take them to work the next day and have them cardpunched, then the program would run, sometimes the following day, the father would take the printout home and give to my classmate, who would bring it back to school the next day
06:45 PM roycroft: that experience taught me to fill out the coding sheets carefully and accurately
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