#linuxcnc Logs
Feb 12 2021
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:40 AM miss0r: morning. holy! we had -20,6C last night
12:46 AM XXCoder: its snowing here now
12:46 AM XXCoder: barely below0f
12:46 AM XXCoder: erm 0c
12:49 AM XXCoder: snow predicted till sun some point
12:55 AM roycroft: the forecast for here, as of right now, says rain/snow mixbut there's no precipitation at all
12:55 AM roycroft: ask me again in 10 minutes though :)
01:13 AM miss0r: I was up late last night tinkering with my cnc lathe.
01:13 AM miss0r: For some reason or another I cannot get it to change direction on the steppers
01:14 AM Deejay: moin
01:14 AM miss0r: I put a scope on there last night, and all the inputs and voltages checks out. Something must be off with that step controller. but it is BRAND NEW! :'(
01:15 AM XXCoder: :*
01:15 AM XXCoder: *:(
01:16 AM miss0r: Strange thing is: its a dual axis step controller. i.e. a master board with the two seprate stepper controllers on there. and they are both doing that silly dance.
01:17 AM miss0r: I've compared the direction bit to the step bit, and they both took the same (electrically speaking). the step bit works a treat, the direction does not
01:18 AM miss0r: one-way linear axis makes for sad machining
01:18 AM XXCoder: wires with break?
01:19 AM miss0r: not likely. as the voltages I am measuring are on the back of the PCB where it enters the stepper controller
01:20 AM miss0r: and the ones that run to the steppers are likely okay, as they are running smoothly in the one direction
01:20 AM XXCoder: it uses direction wire right?
01:20 AM miss0r: it has: step, step/, dir, dir/
01:20 AM miss0r: as in; differential input
01:24 AM miss0r: I will just have to hunker down and work my way through it.
01:25 AM XXCoder: indeed
03:21 AM miss0r: Seriously! Nothing I am measuring tells me this should not work
03:21 AM miss0r: Everything looks like I would expect it to!
03:21 AM miss0r: :/
03:24 AM XXCoder: pins configissue?
04:21 AM lag: Does anyone else's Gmoccpy seemingly lock-up when setting touch-off offsets?
04:21 AM lag: It seems to max out one CPU
04:22 AM lag: a) what is it doing that's so CPU intensive and b) why is it not multi-threaded?
04:25 AM Tom_L: morning
05:41 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:44 AM XXCoder: hey heyyyy
05:44 AM XXCoder: snowy time here heh
05:44 AM XXCoder: 1/4 inch I guess? but snow
06:07 AM miss0r: XXCoder: assuming the real world looks like what is on the schematic I have, then no
06:08 AM miss0r: I'v double, triple & quadropel checked.
06:08 AM miss0r: even a few times inbetween that :D
06:08 AM XXCoder: yeah it seemed unlikely
06:08 AM miss0r: I'm starting to think something is wrong with this stepper driver
06:09 AM miss0r: but I *JUST* got it yesterday, direct from EMCO switzerland. Usualy they do good stuff
06:10 AM XXCoder: hmm a flaw possibky
06:17 AM miss0r: bleh. I just called emco HQ. apparently their electrical technician for that machine line is off work for today, and won't be back till monday morning. I WANT ANSWERS DAMNIT! :D
06:18 AM XXCoder: :(
06:18 AM XXCoder: while bored, come over and help me build a shop and cnc router? ;)
06:18 AM XXCoder: kidding
06:19 AM miss0r: But not all bad news today. I just got an email from a very well spoken gentleman, informing me that a recently deceased relative of mine has left me 6.8 million EURO. and all I have to do to get it is engage in a conversation with said gentleman... sounds about right :D
06:19 AM XXCoder: lol
06:20 AM miss0r: XXCoder: You should realy get around to building that shop
06:20 AM miss0r: :]
06:20 AM XXCoder: i suppose but with no job I cant really spend much at all
06:20 AM miss0r: for me, atleast, its the perfect place to hide from the family
06:20 AM miss0r: I did not know you were out of work
06:21 AM miss0r: In which case you just have to do it the time consuming way.
06:22 AM XXCoder: i suppose bvuyt not a lot of resources to build a shop with
06:22 AM XXCoder: was laid off at july
06:22 AM miss0r: geez. No jobs to be had?
06:23 AM XXCoder: had no luck for long while before i gave up few weeks ago
06:23 AM miss0r: you can come finish this lathe for me :) I will not pay.. well, food and a place to sleep :]
06:23 AM miss0r: What job description are you looking for?
06:23 AM XXCoder: machinist cnc
06:24 AM miss0r: I guess the market is shit over there at the moment
06:25 AM XXCoder: yeah
06:25 AM XXCoder: it doesnt help that im shit on finding jobs and interviewing
06:25 AM XXCoder: im considering some sorta office job
06:25 AM XXCoder: my back is far worse now than before, and im still dizzy
06:25 AM XXCoder: both not being compitable with cnc work
06:25 AM miss0r: indeed
06:26 AM miss0r: I guess. Whatever puts food on the table then
06:26 AM XXCoder: know any of those bullshit jobs?
06:26 AM miss0r: I've never had a desk job. I've either worked retail, electrician or repairman(current)
06:27 AM miss0r: well.. I do my own accounting, if that counts?:)
06:27 AM XXCoder: lol nah thats nbot bullshit job
06:27 AM XXCoder: you should read book bullshit jobs
06:27 AM miss0r: oh... you are talking marketing ;D
06:28 AM XXCoder: lol
06:28 AM miss0r: thats a bullshit job if I ever saw one :D
06:28 AM XXCoder: read the book
06:28 AM XXCoder: im not teasing, its very interesting read
06:28 AM XXCoder: and from me, who dont read nonfictions 99% of time
06:29 AM miss0r: me neither :)
06:29 AM miss0r: but I am currently "between" books.
06:29 AM miss0r: And am having a hard time finding a good title at the moment.
06:30 AM XXCoder: bullshit jobs.
06:30 AM XXCoder: https://www.amazon.com/Bullshit-Jobs-Theory-David-Graeber/dp/150114331X
06:30 AM XXCoder: wow price is higher now. popular.
06:31 AM miss0r: I guess stuff like that is getting popular with increased unemployment?
06:31 AM XXCoder: dunno, it does list some of reasons jobs exist
06:31 AM XXCoder: 4 major rationale behind em
06:32 AM XXCoder: and lists few jobs in each of those
06:32 AM XXCoder: some is just sad example
06:33 AM miss0r: Sure theres a bunch of those
06:33 AM miss0r: My lathe situation just struck me again. FSCK :D
06:34 AM miss0r: This is the issue with being the most electronically enclined person I know. Theres noone to call when I hit a wall
06:35 AM XXCoder: its lonely on top
06:35 AM XXCoder: thats why i stay imcompement and near bottom
06:35 AM miss0r: lol
06:35 AM miss0r: I just need new friends :D
06:35 AM XXCoder: :)
06:41 AM miss0r: bah. I will go back to the bench and fire the scope back up. I MUST be missing something!
06:41 AM miss0r: cya
06:42 AM XXCoder: have fun
06:42 AM lag: Would someone be kind enough to tell me the best place to go complain about Gmoccapy please?
06:42 AM lag: Does it have it's own site/channel?
06:43 AM XXCoder: no idea
06:45 AM JT-Cave: hmm the gmocccapy section of the forum
06:57 AM lag: Okay, I'll try there - thank you
06:57 AM lag: I'm guessing that CPUs aren't mean to lock-up during manual touch-off?
07:04 AM XXCoder: beauty https://youtu.be/H5bSTvhjWmQ
07:04 AM XXCoder: I want a wood lathe dammit lol
07:06 AM XXCoder: only thing I cringe is how he mixes epoxy..
09:07 AM satiowadahc: Happy Friday! A good cold day is a perfect day to take the plunge from MESA to ethercat right?
09:07 AM miss0r: XXCoder: I just drove to the guy I bought this project from and took with me the original controller. Inside of which is a dual quad channel differential voltage TTL driver.
09:07 AM miss0r: With that in hand I can make this work! :)... I just have to reverse engineer the board to figure out how to hook it up.
09:08 AM miss0r: and on that note, I would like to throw a curse at SMD components that hide vias underneath.
09:09 AM miss0r: I should've used mesa components.. this this would've worked right off the bat :]
09:24 AM veegee: https://superslings.ca/products/rigging-hardware/hooks/
09:24 AM veegee: Such a fun site
09:24 AM veegee: I feel like a kid in a candy store
09:24 AM veegee: I just wish the grade 100 stuff weren't so damn expensive
09:40 AM FinboySlick: Nah, just bend a 3/8 rod into a hook and weld a washer at the top for a loop, it'll be fine.... ;)
10:55 AM n283 is now known as norias
12:02 PM roycroft: brb - moving the irc client to a different server
12:44 PM JT-Shop: second covid shot done!
12:45 PM roycroft: congrats
12:45 PM roycroft: i an a couple weeks you'll be almost certain to be immune to symptoms
12:56 PM JT-Shop: thanks
12:57 PM JT-Shop: I didn't even know if we could get out this morning, driveway covered in ice and I only had 1/4 bag of ice melt left...
12:57 PM roycroft: that doesn't sound like fun
01:05 PM JT-Shop: and it looks like I found some firewood
01:05 PM JT-Shop: I salted down the hill part of my driveway so we would not go sliding into the woods...
02:16 PM Tom_itx: not a good time to be in Dallas/FtWorth...
02:16 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
02:28 PM miss0r: tom_itx: What is happending in fort worth?
02:29 PM Tom_L: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2021/02/12/authorities-still-investigating-133-care-pile-up-in-fort-worth-that-killed-6-people/
02:30 PM miss0r: oh shit. Yeah, I read that headline earlier today. Didn't mention location though. I know some people there
02:31 PM Tom_L: we're supposed to get 7-10" over the weekend
02:32 PM miss0r: I wish it were here
02:32 PM Tom_L: i'd be happy to give it to you
02:34 PM miss0r: I'm sure we can work something out with fedEX... :P
02:44 PM unterhaus: Texas and Louisiana supposed to get more freezing rain on monday
04:00 PM andypugh: rene_dev_21: I am a little annoyed. I spent much of this evening working in a test to check that all the referenced fonts exist (ie, grep through the code base for font definitions, then check that they all exist). The idea being to check that “FreeMono” is on all of our releases.
04:01 PM andypugh: I then found that it isn’t _even_ on the base Buster release. So I wasted my time.
04:07 PM JT-Shop: ouch
04:07 PM * JT-Shop just got done stacking a truck load of firewood... time for a break
04:32 PM miss0r: JT-Shop: The lathe is alive !
04:33 PM miss0r: all I needed was two AM26LS31C to generate the differential output needed for it to work proberly
04:35 PM rene_dev_21: andypugh strange
04:35 PM rene_dev_21: ubuntu comes with it, I dont have a debian to check. there must be a usable list somewhere
04:38 PM rene_dev_21: so you are saying the font isnt even used? but then how does changing the font fix the issue?
04:44 PM andypugh: It’s more complicated than that, I think. It looks like Debian can substitude fonts. NotAFont looks exactly the same as FreeMono, and neither is monosspaced.
04:44 PM rene_dev_21: ah. but does it look different to the default axis font?
04:44 PM andypugh: Yes.
04:45 PM rene_dev_21: fc-list | grep -i mono
04:45 PM andypugh: I am also surprised that Ubunto and Arch don’t have Courier. It’s about the most basic font.
04:46 PM andypugh: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q2kysNSQBT/
04:47 PM rene_dev_21: https://pastebin.com/AEDEFYrL
04:47 PM rene_dev_21: LiberationMono sounds good
04:49 PM rene_dev_21: monospace does make sense for a dro
04:58 PM XXCoder: miss0r: way to go
05:17 PM gigasu_shida is now known as gigas_cedar
05:22 PM JT-Cave: miss0r, cool
05:25 PM XXCoder: andypugh: can always use hack font
05:25 PM XXCoder: its very nice monospace. I use it for my irc client and programming or text editors
05:25 PM andypugh: Not present on Debian.
05:25 PM XXCoder: its not included in any
05:26 PM XXCoder: its free open source font however
05:26 PM XXCoder: https://sourcefoundry.org/hack/
05:26 PM andypugh: The point is to find a monspace font that is present on Debian Wheezy +, Ubuinto Precise +, Arch…
05:27 PM XXCoder: ah though I hope it can be added though
05:29 PM Tom_L: so they're predicting -10 to -30F over the weekend here
05:30 PM Tom_L: and 7-10"
05:30 PM XXCoder: most of snow went away here. 31f now
05:31 PM XXCoder: " WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 8 inches. Winds gusting as high as 40 mph."
05:32 PM XXCoder: thats almost decade snow height, and we had it 2 years ago. HMM
05:32 PM Tom_L: last time here was in the 80's iirc
05:35 PM XXCoder: climate change sucks
05:36 PM JT-Cave: global warming...
05:36 PM XXCoder: indeed
05:36 PM XXCoder: north pole area being warm is why votexes happen
05:37 PM JT-Cave: I wonder if cavic is having a warm winter
05:37 PM JT-Cave: opps it's kavic
05:38 PM JT-Cave: http://www.kavikrivercamp.com/
05:41 PM JT-Cave: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/731054adcec0282e58a3fd77303822f4
05:42 PM JT-Cave: looks mild for there
05:42 PM XXCoder: interesting
05:42 PM XXCoder: might be something i'd go for if not for plague
05:43 PM JT-Cave: I'd go when things calm down with covid
05:43 PM JT-Cave: hmm 2.2GB of data left for the month
05:43 PM JT-Cave: damn new phone had wifi on and sucked all my data up
05:44 PM XXCoder: maybe satlink could work for you? not sure how much that'd be
05:44 PM JT-Cave: normally I have a few GB left at the end of the month but got a new to me phone...
05:45 PM XXCoder: yeah hm it has unlimited data?
05:45 PM XXCoder: some you can tether to computer
05:46 PM JT-Cave: phone had unlimited data but forgot to check that wifi was off
05:47 PM XXCoder: indeed
05:47 PM JT-Cave: watching pullet TV
05:48 PM XXCoder: im talking about using phone as internet connection for while
05:48 PM XXCoder: i did it once a while
05:48 PM JT-Cave: only a couple of bars out here but possible I suppose
05:49 PM JT-Cave: neighbor has a hot spot thing that gives him internet
05:49 PM XXCoder: yeah some can buy a booster
05:49 PM JT-Cave: I had a wilson booster before they put up the new tower
05:50 PM JT-Cave: they == verizon
05:52 PM XXCoder: hm too bad
06:02 PM JT-Cave: we got our second covid shot today
06:03 PM JT-Cave: much better than the first one
06:03 PM XXCoder: in what way?
06:03 PM JT-Cave: you had to make an appointment in half hour increments and only 150 per half hour
06:03 PM * XXCoder spy programmer talk habits
06:03 PM JT-Cave: in and out in 30 minutes
06:04 PM JT-Cave: first time 2,000 people showed up at the same time you can figure out what happened
06:06 PM XXCoder: chaos
06:06 PM JT-Cave: long wait but the national guard and local police did a good job as well as everyone else working there
06:08 PM JT-Cave: hmm dusk in 10 minutes, I should go read the pullets a bed time story and tuck them in
06:09 PM XXCoder: lol :)
06:09 PM XXCoder: yeah its just settling down and planning better
06:10 PM JT-Cave: maybe I should read them Henny Penny
06:11 PM rs[m]: andypugh: renedev21: monospace should work
06:11 PM rs[m]: (an alias)
06:13 PM rs[m]: renedev21: monospace as font family should work, this alias should be defined
06:13 PM rs[m]: something munches my underscores...
06:17 PM rene_dev_21: rs[m] Im not sure how so specify that form pango
06:18 PM rs[m]: as monospace?
06:18 PM rs[m]: it works in axis
06:19 PM rs[m]: (:1,$s/courier/monospace/)
06:19 PM rs[m]: in theory, this alias should honor whatever the user has selected as system monospace font IIRC
06:29 PM rs[m]: also, man 5 fonts.conf might help
06:29 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, you should use your phone as a wifi hub
06:40 PM rs[m]: renedev21: pango.FontDescription("monospace 20") does not work?
06:57 PM roycroft: the lower half of my bandsaw is assembled, but i've determined that before i can fit the fence properly i have to install the upper half
06:58 PM roycroft: so i'm off to do some media blasting and shooting primer
06:58 PM * roycroft wonders if he'll ever finish this project
07:53 PM memfrob: roycroft, PM?
07:54 PM JavaBean: its been almost an hour since the last time said user twitched, don't know if still around
07:55 PM memfrob: ah ok, just had a question about BSD.
07:56 PM CaptHindsight: I have bar conversations with longer gaps between comments :)
07:56 PM JavaBean: but only you notice the time, the other party may think they "got right back to you"
07:56 PM roycroft: what about bsd?
07:56 PM roycroft: and just ask on channel
07:57 PM memfrob: you said it's "too secure" for some applications?
07:57 PM memfrob: I use it for a firewall right now so that's probably a good thing
07:57 PM roycroft: it's a sad state of affairs, btw, that with my wimpy little media blasting cabinet i was able to remove all the paint from a fairly complex casting and a big stamped shield, clean them up, and shoot primer in less than 45 minutes
07:58 PM roycroft: i said openbsd is too secure for some applications
07:58 PM memfrob: yes openbsd
07:58 PM roycroft: other bsd distros are more sane for real world users
07:58 PM JavaBean: just to point out, sanity is over-rated
07:59 PM roycroft: i used openbsd for many, many years, and i still have a handful of openbsd machines
07:59 PM roycroft: but it got too difficult to get work done with them
07:59 PM memfrob: can you give me an example besides DMA? I'm just curious as to what you mean.
07:59 PM CaptHindsight: roycroft: a few months ago we were talking about why you moved from BSD to Linux
07:59 PM memfrob: linux you can use memmap and do very dangerous things :)
08:00 PM CaptHindsight: memfrob is wondering about your BSD experiences
08:00 PM memfrob: yes.
08:00 PM roycroft: they don't let one do things about send SIGHUP to a daemon to have it reload its config
08:01 PM CaptHindsight: coming from the Linux world BSD looks more promising
08:01 PM CaptHindsight: for some things
08:01 PM roycroft: so if you're running a web server, for example, and you want to add or change a website, you have to completely kill the web daemon and then restart it
08:01 PM roycroft: which is insane
08:02 PM memfrob: like apache?
08:02 PM roycroft: apache or nginx
08:02 PM roycroft: i don't have experience with other webservers, but it's probably the same with others
08:04 PM roycroft: and for the record, i've had to personally endure both the wrath of theo and the wrath of linus, and they are definitely both jerks
08:04 PM roycroft: so there is no cult of personality thing involved in my decision to move from openbsd to debian
08:05 PM roycroft: i'm actually friends with several of the folks from the former bsdi, most of whom are csrg alumni
08:05 PM roycroft: so if anything i'd be more inclined to stick with bsd
08:05 PM roycroft: except debian is more suitable for the work i do
08:07 PM memfrob: So you find it more acceptable to use a web service that's based on systemd, than a more sane init system with a caveat of having to restart the service?
08:09 PM roycroft: i don't care for systemd, but what i do care about is not disconnecting hundreds or thousands of web users just to reload the configuration file
08:09 PM roycroft: especially since we do adds/moves/changes dozens of times per day
08:10 PM memfrob: ah got it!
08:10 PM roycroft: i have to think about our product and our customers
08:11 PM roycroft: his theoness grants himself the luxury of not giving a shit about the users
08:11 PM roycroft: i think the work he does is important
08:11 PM roycroft: making an os more secure is certainly laudable
08:12 PM roycroft: but i need to get work done
08:12 PM roycroft: my hope is that the things he fixes will find their way into useful operating systems
08:12 PM roycroft: i see openbsd as more an academic project than a business solution
08:14 PM roycroft: if openbsd works for you i would never discourage you from using it
08:20 PM memfrob: puff, you're in here too??
08:20 PM memfrob: roycroft, yes it works for me because I've been locking down linux systems for too long and see openbsd does a lot of my work for me.
08:21 PM memfrob: building security-focused gentoo systems takes awhile
08:22 PM JavaBean: image and reuse?
08:24 PM memfrob: For the most part but with the big changes gentoo goes through, it can throw you some very interesting curve balls
08:27 PM JavaBean: yes... similar too how win10 is still borking itself on some user's updates
08:30 PM roycroft: i do a lot of the locking down with acls on the switches/routers
08:30 PM roycroft: we don't allow shell accounts on the servers
08:30 PM roycroft: other than staff, of course
08:30 PM roycroft: ssh is blocked from the outside completely - i vpn in when i need to manage a machine
08:31 PM memfrob: no shell accounts?
08:31 PM roycroft: i understand your perspective quite well
08:31 PM roycroft: we're an isp
08:31 PM roycroft: people get websites and email from us
08:32 PM memfrob: how do you have a linux user without a shell account?
08:32 PM XXCoder: I dont run admin login when I used to use windows
08:32 PM XXCoder: no reason to
08:32 PM memfrob: openldap or something?
08:32 PM XXCoder: nowdays I use linux and sudo
08:32 PM roycroft: i said "other than staff"
08:32 PM roycroft: and i also said i do not allow ssh from the outside
08:32 PM roycroft: so you aren't able to knock on my ssh port and try to get in
08:32 PM roycroft: i block the port
08:33 PM memfrob: yes a server without a shell account, not even root?
08:34 PM XXCoder: mem it seems you cant read
08:35 PM memfrob: XXCoder, hey smartass, just because ssh is blocked doesn't mean it's completely shell-less.
08:35 PM roycroft: are you being intentionally obtuse?
08:35 PM memfrob: A return-to-libc attack can get you a "shell"
08:35 PM roycroft: this is bordering on trolling
08:36 PM * roycroft decides he's done with this conversation, and starts thinking about making dinner
08:36 PM memfrob: i'm trying to understand how there's no shell
08:36 PM XXCoder: yep cant read
08:36 PM XXCoder: done also
08:38 PM roycroft: my replacement replacement laptop was supposed to ship today, but fedex claim it's not in their posession :(
08:38 PM XXCoder: odd
08:38 PM roycroft: the vendor can be slow
08:38 PM roycroft: they said they would ship today, but i think they did not
08:39 PM CaptHindsight: oh fuck
08:39 PM roycroft: i've been trying to get my mbp replaced since december
08:39 PM JavaBean: i have had several things go through USPS AND FedEx that never had a twitch on their tracking numbers
08:39 PM JavaBean: still got the stuff tho
08:40 PM CaptHindsight: XXCoder: what the fuck is wrong with you?
08:40 PM roycroft: this is the third machine they've sent me
08:40 PM CaptHindsight: sorry I brought this up
08:40 PM roycroft: both the first two were shipped days later than they promised
08:40 PM roycroft: i'm inclined, based on experience, to blame the vendor and not the shipper this time
08:40 PM XXCoder: CaptHindsight: nothing wrong so far besides ongoing ones so far. why>
08:42 PM JavaBean: my question tho, why do you always hear about people having problems with Mac's more than other systems?? you don't hear people as frequently having trouble getting a Dell as you hear about from Macs
08:42 PM XXCoder: higher price higher expections possibly
08:42 PM XXCoder: plus well mac os from what my experence, admitting outdated, is pretty brittle
08:42 PM JavaBean: well, Mac/Itoy... its just crazy how much louder people are about such troubles
08:42 PM roycroft: i don't hear about people having problems with macs more than any other computers
08:43 PM roycroft: and i certainly don't
08:43 PM memfrob: I shouldn't have even asked. I was curious as to how a system can be shell-less which turns into being unable to read, and because people have a stick up their ass, I can't even have a conversation with you people.
08:43 PM roycroft: the machine that failed that i'm replacing is a 7 year old laptop
08:43 PM JavaBean: no no, talking about the repairs/shipping troubles
08:43 PM roycroft: that's pretty long for a laptop to las
08:43 PM roycroft: oh, this is not from apple
08:43 PM JavaBean: i know
08:43 PM roycroft: it's from an outfit who refurbish/resell used macs
08:44 PM XXCoder: methods_: roy clearly said shell is for admin only. hence it has shell. just not for most users
08:44 PM XXCoder: oh left. whatever
08:44 PM XXCoder: sorry methods
08:44 PM roycroft: i said it twice
08:45 PM roycroft: that's why i dropped out of the conversation :)
08:45 PM roycroft: but i'll be making dinner presently anyway
08:45 PM CaptHindsight: don't hurt yourself
08:45 PM roycroft: as soon as i finish what i'm working on
08:46 PM roycroft: we have a winter storm advisory again
08:46 PM XXCoder: same for here
08:46 PM XXCoder: 2 to 8 inch
08:46 PM roycroft: but again it looks like the snowy/icy weather will be 10 minutes north of here
08:47 PM XXCoder: snow powder falling now. i guess around half inch so far here
08:47 PM roycroft: and we'll probably be high and dry
08:47 PM JavaBean: same here. but the warning varies between 1-2 inch a few miles west of here, to 8-10 inch a few miles west/northwest of here
08:47 PM roycroft: it's only 2 degrees, though, which is pretty cool for shortly after sundown
08:48 PM XXCoder: CaptHindsight: who was that to? :)
08:48 PM JavaBean: s/"west/northwest"/"east/north/east"
08:50 PM roycroft: i don't care if it snows or not
08:50 PM roycroft: i just don't want it to get cold
08:50 PM roycroft: cold means it takes longer for paint to dry
08:50 PM JavaBean: far west texas, monday morning will start at about 9f
08:50 PM JavaBean: atleast, that is the forecast
08:51 PM roycroft: ok, work done
08:51 PM roycroft: time to make dinner
08:51 PM roycroft: peace out
08:51 PM XXCoder: later have fun
09:00 PM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/
09:03 PM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: why bother sniffing RF when you have backdoor through BIOS/firmware
09:06 PM XXCoder: hm yeah I remember reading about it years ago
09:06 PM XXCoder: still ongoing?
09:07 PM JavaBean: seems like it
09:13 PM roycroft: well, it has started raining
09:13 PM roycroft: that could turn into frozen rain/snow very easily
09:15 PM JavaBean: ew, you are looking at slush overnight??? that's not a good thing
09:17 PM XXCoder: yeah
09:17 PM XXCoder: here its powder snow
09:17 PM XXCoder: snow ski people is so jelious I bet lol
09:18 PM JavaBean: ha, they have issued a warning for me... 3-6 inches overnight caturday through monday morning
09:30 PM roycroft: i'm hoping i can shoot primer on the other side of my parts tonight
09:32 PM * JavaBean proposes a toast... To Hoping!
09:33 PM * roycroft hopes that the toast is helpful
09:34 PM XXCoder: "caturday" https://youtu.be/YetHfvv7jFE
10:09 PM roycroft: and i was able to paint, but barely
10:09 PM XXCoder: nice
10:10 PM roycroft: yeah, i'm shooting color tomorrow, though, and that takes a lot longer to dry than primer, so i may not be able to shoot both sides tomorrow
10:10 PM roycroft: but as long as i make progress every day the job will get done eventually
10:12 PM XXCoder: i always planned to print something then paint black 2.0 then 3.0 on it
10:12 PM XXCoder: but im still not sure what would be awesome statue for this/
10:12 PM XXCoder: maybe bowser