#linuxcnc Logs

Feb 10 2021

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:16 AM bjorkintosh: funny. that 'c' was an IBM 704 on which fortran and lisp were first developed!
12:41 AM bjorkintosh: hah! damned comments.
12:41 AM bjorkintosh: Shouldn't they have named it PAT? Programmable Automatic Tools? They aren't really "Automatically Programmed."
12:42 AM CaptHindsight: abyone use Rhino for CAM?
12:43 AM CaptHindsight: I see it on odd projects all the time. Only thought of it for animation
12:45 AM CaptHindsight: https://mecsoft.com/rhinocam/
01:02 AM XXCoder: https://youtu.be/5-3B_o0-cBQ expoxy tools lol
01:04 AM CaptHindsight: oh man, resin is like saying metal
01:04 AM XXCoder: bleh yeah I meant resin lol
01:05 AM CaptHindsight: make a hammer out of brass or aluminum vs steel
01:06 AM CaptHindsight: same with epoxy or "resin" strengths are all over the place, especially with composites
01:06 AM CaptHindsight: my mercury hammer melted :(
01:06 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HotrTN_abl4 Robotic Sand Milling
01:07 AM CaptHindsight: XXCoder: lots of epoxy and wood CNC projects on youtube
01:08 AM XXCoder: yeah as usual :)
01:08 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1qxrG2pHNE Woodturning - The Pencil Globe
01:08 AM CaptHindsight: not CNC but kind of neat
01:11 AM XXCoder: os ot using drum sand?
01:11 AM XXCoder: oh its not. sure looked like it when spinning lol
01:11 AM bjorkintosh: it's a wood turning lathe.
01:12 AM XXCoder: capt why is they setting it on file?
01:12 AM XXCoder: fire
01:12 AM XXCoder: its not captioned
01:13 AM CaptHindsight: http://www.5axismaker.com/software/ free 5-axis CAM for Rhino!?
01:14 AM bjorkintosh: to show it who's boss :-D
01:14 AM XXCoder: rhino has cam??
01:14 AM bjorkintosh: I don't know. maybe the fire's to shrink it down?
01:16 AM CaptHindsight: it might be a ceramic slurry
01:16 AM CaptHindsight: burns out the solvent
01:19 AM CaptHindsight: or water glass
01:19 AM CaptHindsight: the fire would fuse it
01:46 AM Loetmichel: mornin'. BRRRR 12km/7.5miles drive to work with one hand on the door handle... door lock frozen open :(
01:52 AM Loetmichel: -21°C/-6F said the thermometer this morning...
01:56 AM Deejay: moin
01:59 AM XXCoder: Loetmichel: need to warm it up, get water out by ispy, then once it vaprorizes dry again, graphite lubucation
02:05 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: already "repaired" it with a hot air gun
02:05 AM XXCoder: copol, though still need some graphite
02:05 AM CaptHindsight: https://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/29225/50140264-MIT.pdf Automatic 5-axis NC toolpath generation paper
02:05 AM XXCoder: it helps make oit keep woprking
02:07 AM CaptHindsight: https://lib.dr.iastate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5855&context=etd
02:08 AM CaptHindsight: Computing axes of rotation for 4-axis CNC milling machine by calculating global visibility map from slice geometry
02:25 AM CaptHindsight: Tool path generator for computer aided manufacturing https://patents.google.com/patent/US6311100B1/en
02:25 AM CaptHindsight: hah the patent has expired!
04:25 AM Tom_L: morning
04:27 AM XXCoder: hey
05:05 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:06 AM XXCoder: hey
05:07 AM XXCoder: I just watched a video oin snapmaker
05:07 AM XXCoder: it has cnc mode, and it has no e-stop
05:07 AM XXCoder: dumb
05:07 AM XXCoder: apparently it will have it as "addon"
05:13 AM ar: it looks like it's not really good at any of the marketed functions
05:14 AM XXCoder: yeah review lists few issues
05:14 AM XXCoder: its somewhat slow for printing, with slightly larger backlash
05:14 AM XXCoder: laser well it has no enclosure (addon is $600)
05:14 AM XXCoder: cnc its weak but decent enough for wood stuff, and very light alum
05:14 AM XXCoder: no estop tho
05:27 AM Tom_L: more snow
05:56 AM MrSunshine: can G64 be invoced for different parts of the nc program ?
05:57 AM MrSunshine: say i need high accuracy in some parts but it can be run at lower accuracy at other parts
06:56 AM JT-Cave: finally got that pc to work with debian 10 standard (ie no desktop)
06:57 AM XXCoder: MrSunshine: uhhh not sure but think so?
06:57 AM JT-Cave: you can change G64 all you like
06:58 AM JT-Cave: it's probably a queue buster but other than that yes
07:01 AM XXCoder: its what sets tolence of turning corners right?
07:01 AM XXCoder: I remember using a gcode to tweak "Linuxcnc" gcode to have sharp corners but curved stuff stays clean
07:13 AM MrSunshine: its how much its allowed to deviate from programmed path .. in some cases i want the value high as it doesnt mater and im getting rid of "stops" in the gcode .. like when it goes over tabs on pieces
07:14 AM MrSunshine: before i got a mark due to machine stopping before starting ramp up the triangular tab .. now it just does it in a smooth continious motion =)
07:15 AM MrSunshine: im doing slots in a piece (needs to be high accuracy so using G64 P0.01) but when doing the straight outside edges i can go with a higher tolerance to make it go over the tabs at full velocity
07:17 AM XXCoder: nice
07:23 AM MrSunshine: so adding that in in my fusion 360 with gcode pass throught between the operations to set the G64 mode for that given operation =)
07:25 AM MrSunshine: alltsho i think G64 is persistent when loading other programs so if its not reset after the program the next program that does not set any G64 will have the last programs G64 setting ... had that bite me sometimes
08:37 AM miss0r: JT-Cave: Finally got a tracking number for my new step controller. Apparently alot of stuff was against me getting it on time. First some sort of working strike in belgium. Then the plane had technical issues and had to land in Sweden instead of Denmark. and THEN! THEN! the truck that had to drive the stuff from sweden to the warehouse in Denmark had to wait until tonight to make the trip due to resting/working hours regulations
08:38 AM miss0r: so, I made them halt the package at the warehouse, so I can pick it up tomorrow morning, instead of waiting for it to be driven out Friday.
08:38 AM miss0r: i.e. the extra express fee was NOT worth it :]
08:39 AM miss0r: at this point I am glad we are talking a hobby project, and I don't have a client riding my back on this
08:40 AM JavaBean: kinda makes you feel "bad" for the people that do have clients... that kinda of FUBAR on the part of delivery companies seems to be getting more and more common
08:47 AM miss0r: I have clients :) At the moment I am just stuck home with my arm in a cast. This would've have pissed me off even more had this been a client job.
08:47 AM miss0r: Then I would have to be the bozo standing there telling them why I am unable to fix their equipment in a timely manner
09:44 AM jymmmm: what is that 3d printer software that allows you to send /control jobs over the network?
09:47 AM jymmmm: rememebred, https://octoprint.org/
09:51 AM JT-Cave: miss0r, that's not bad, I shipped a package to Austria Nov 16 2020 and it spent a few weeks in the Bahamas and still has not made it to Austria
09:52 AM sensille: routed via australia?
09:53 AM JT-Cave: never went to australia just the bahamas
09:56 AM roycroft: if you were sent to austria in the middle of winter and had to go to the bahamas first would you be in a hurry to leavve there/
09:56 AM roycroft: ?
09:59 AM roycroft: hmm, now we have a winter storm watch for thursday night/friday morning, but the low is still forecast to be well above freezing, so i'm not sure what to make of that
11:41 AM JT-Shop: using my workbench before I'm done... https://gnipsel.com/images/wood-working/dust-collection/dust-manifold-01.jpg
11:49 AM roycroft: nice
11:50 AM roycroft: i just shot the final clear coat on the lower part of my bandsaw
11:50 AM roycroft: i should be able to start assembly this weekend
11:50 AM JT-Shop: can't wait to see it
11:51 AM JT-Shop: I have an idea how I want to make the blast gates for the dust manifold
11:51 AM roycroft: are you going to make automatic blast gates?
11:51 AM JT-Shop: hmm how would you do that?
11:52 AM roycroft: motorized blast gates with contactors that are powered by the machines
11:53 AM roycroft: since you have a manifold it's probably not a big deal - you can open/close them at a common location
11:53 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, what you makin?
11:53 AM roycroft: in a production shop it can be a big time saver
11:59 AM JT-Shop: yeah, I saw them but not needed here
11:59 AM JT-Shop: Tom_L, a manifold for my dust collector
12:12 PM Tom_L: and here i thought you were building a boom box :)
12:20 PM roycroft: that's one of the "features" of our closing our data center and virtualizing the server farm
12:20 PM roycroft: i get to bring my boom box, which my ex gave me as a gift in the mid '80s, back home
12:21 PM roycroft: it is huge, and has a cassette player and cd player
12:29 PM mrec: is there a g-code command to pause a program eg. for fixing a part?
12:29 PM mrec: I want to cut some circles, but first I'd like to drill a hole in the center and then screw it down
12:30 PM mrec: one way would possible be to split the program... first the holes for screwing down then the circles
12:31 PM Tom_L: M0
12:31 PM mrec: ah thanks!
12:32 PM Tom_L: i have a section in my cam that puts out an M5 to stop the spindle, an M0 then an M3 to turn the spindle back on
12:33 PM mrec: I did not interface the spindle yet in my machine... that needs some electronic modification
12:34 PM Tom_L: M1 is the same as M0 except it's dependent on a pannel switch
12:35 PM Tom_L: if the switch is off, it gets ignored
12:35 PM Tom_L: or vise versa
12:51 PM mrec: M0 is just perfect
12:51 PM mrec: I'll go to bed now ... I'll probably test it within the next days
02:17 PM JT-Shop: I guess I should try and make that part again... looks right in EMC
02:23 PM JT-Shop: lol new email scam pretending to be the IRS
03:24 PM CaptHindsight: https://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/29225/50140264-MIT.pdf Automatic 5-axis NC toolpath generation, the patent has expired
03:26 PM CaptHindsight: I wonder if any of the CAM tools went this route
04:07 PM _unreal_: back to milling or continuing milling my face control plate for the new laser etcher
04:29 PM bjorkintosh: https://www.bantamtools.com/machines/desktop-cnc-milling-machine
04:29 PM bjorkintosh: that's $4000.00 USD!!!
04:29 PM bjorkintosh: is there something cheaper? I just want a cnc to play with outside of work.
04:30 PM bjorkintosh: I can't take the okuma home with me.
04:30 PM bjorkintosh: ... too heavy. also, won't fit in my kia.
04:32 PM JT-Shop: yea my T&T Varnish Oil has shipped
04:33 PM CaptHindsight: bjorkintosh: there are plenty
04:34 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, it'll be a frozen block
04:34 PM bjorkintosh: I don't really want a 3d printer though.
04:34 PM bjorkintosh: unless that's the best I can have.
04:34 PM JT-Shop: I hope not...
04:37 PM CaptHindsight: bjorkintosh: small ones with tiny motors start around $300
04:37 PM bjorkintosh: oh the harborfreight variety?
04:37 PM bjorkintosh: I've seen those.
04:37 PM CaptHindsight: build quality is generally poor but they move
04:37 PM bjorkintosh: and plastic internals. yeah. I've seen those.
04:38 PM CaptHindsight: https://imgur.com/zsxG2mT all metal 30 x 45 cm was $600
04:38 PM bjorkintosh: ooh. I wonder. perhaps I could sneak in some personal time on the okuma and slowly build my own from scrap!
04:38 PM CaptHindsight: add spindle, drives and controls
04:39 PM FinboySlick: bjorkintosh: If you design it right, you should only have to sneak time on the okuma once or twice.
04:39 PM bjorkintosh: hmm. I see!
04:39 PM CaptHindsight: bjorkintosh: the low cost China sourced ones are all assembled pretty poorly
04:40 PM CaptHindsight: they need to be cleaned and reassembled
04:40 PM bjorkintosh: CaptHindsight, yeah. I've seen those for years and I've been told to avoid them unless all I want to machine is bits of wood.
04:40 PM CaptHindsight: ok for aluminum and thin steel
04:41 PM bjorkintosh: FinboySlick, so any hints on possible design options?
04:41 PM CaptHindsight: next up the list are the Rong Fu or Kaka conversions
04:42 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.rongfu.com/category-milling-drilling-machine.html
04:42 PM bjorkintosh: kaka sounds like ... shit.
04:43 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-4-x-18-3-4-hp-mill-drill/g0781 or converted versions of these
04:43 PM bjorkintosh: ooh grizzly.
04:44 PM bjorkintosh: 1075. + another 500 or so in souping it up.
04:45 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.sherline.com/product/8540/
04:47 PM bjorkintosh: not too shabby.
04:51 PM CaptHindsight: https://taigtools.com/product/micro-mill-2019cr/
04:53 PM FinboySlick: bjorkintosh: Depends on how ambitious you are, you could clone yourself a PocketNC if you have acccess to the Okuma ;)
04:53 PM bjorkintosh: pocketNC you say.
04:53 PM FinboySlick: https://pocketnc.com/
04:54 PM bjorkintosh: holy hell! 9k????
04:54 PM CaptHindsight: they are doing well in the dental industry now
04:55 PM CaptHindsight: trimming aligners
04:55 PM FinboySlick: 9k isn't too bad considering the package.
04:55 PM CaptHindsight: with a tie into Autodesk for 5-axis CAM
04:55 PM CaptHindsight: load your teeth and go
04:56 PM CaptHindsight: Autodesk gets something like $1ea for the aligners
04:57 PM FinboySlick: But if you're building yourself, you can probably get it done well under 9k.
04:57 PM CaptHindsight: https://aligner.pocketnc.com/
04:58 PM CaptHindsight: bjorkintosh: how much do you know about bearings and motors? Do you need a kit?
04:59 PM bjorkintosh: CaptHindsight, it'll be a brand new learning experience.
04:59 PM FinboySlick: bjorkintosh: Start with 3 axis to make all your mistakes with then.
04:59 PM FinboySlick: How big is the okuma?
05:00 PM bjorkintosh: FinboySlick, it's an industrial machine.
05:00 PM bjorkintosh: pretty big.
05:00 PM FinboySlick: And how's your CAD?
05:00 PM bjorkintosh: I've done esprit.
05:00 PM bjorkintosh: I know autocad.
05:00 PM bjorkintosh: I can stumble through solidworks.
05:03 PM FinboySlick: You should be able to get something pretty decent designed and simulated in CAD, then figure out which parts you can get done on the okuma. Keep it as simple as possible, no point putting too much work into it at first because it'll just teach you what you want to do better ;)
05:04 PM FinboySlick: It's like girlfriends. You need the bad one first to know what you want.
05:04 PM FinboySlick: ... and more importantly, what you don't want.
05:05 PM bjorkintosh: none of them. that's what.
05:05 PM bjorkintosh: peace and quiet! I love that so much.
05:06 PM FinboySlick: Oh your mill will throw fits at you, then start ignoring what you say, then start doing stuff you never told it to do.
05:07 PM bjorkintosh: oh.
05:07 PM bjorkintosh: sounds more like a teenaged daughter.
05:08 PM FinboySlick: Yeah. Only it's easier to put an E-STOP button on a mill than a teenaged daughter.
05:08 PM FinboySlick: Same for limit switches, come to think of it.
05:12 PM CaptHindsight: home grown or newly purchased teen daughters?
05:12 PM bjorkintosh: hahahah
05:12 PM bjorkintosh: home grown of course.
06:00 PM _unreal_: You guys will like my final laser etcher setup/design
06:06 PM JT-Cave: at least Friday is looking good for getting the second covid shot... tonight and tomorrow not so good
06:07 PM roycroft: i'm still looking at early april for my first one, if i'm lucky
06:07 PM roycroft: and now i have to worry about whether the particular vaccine i'll get will even work or not
06:08 PM JT-Cave: what?
06:09 PM _unreal_: roycroft, your in the wrong state
06:09 PM roycroft: the mrna ones - pfeizer and moderna - have a high efficacy rate for all the current sars-cov-2 strains
06:09 PM _unreal_: visit any replublican state and there distrobution is fast and streamlined
06:10 PM roycroft: but the novavax and astrozenica ones are fairly useless with the uk and south african mutants
06:10 PM roycroft: and the j&j one hasn't been tested well enough against the new mutants for use to know
06:10 PM roycroft: that's bullshit
06:10 PM _unreal_: roycroft, I find THE "MUTANT" STRAINS and the claims hard to believe... considering my background in BIOMED....
06:10 PM JT-Cave: we got the pfizer one
06:10 PM roycroft: the problem is that we aren't getting enough of them
06:11 PM _unreal_: viruses do NOT mutate to be worse.....
06:11 PM roycroft: your background is in wingnut conspiracy theorism, and your understanding of this pandemic is to be ignored by any sentient being
06:11 PM _unreal_: does not happen in nature.
06:12 PM JT-Cave: is T&T Varnish Oil freeze stable?
06:12 PM _unreal_: a virus wants its host to be mobile
06:12 PM roycroft: yes, jt-cave
06:12 PM JT-Cave: mine is shipping now and it's freezing
06:12 PM JT-Cave: whey
06:12 PM roycroft: the new mutants are more transmissable
06:12 PM roycroft: but nto more lethal
06:12 PM roycroft: not
06:12 PM JT-Cave: whew
06:12 PM XXCoder: roy is someone else talking?
06:12 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, :)
06:12 PM roycroft: and a virus would naturally select for that
06:12 PM XXCoder: im pretty sure youre not talking with jt about virus
06:13 PM JT-Cave: i think it's time for some chicken soup... not my chickens for sure
06:13 PM roycroft: the florida nutcase is opining again, xxcoder
06:13 PM _unreal_: I'm having rum N coke
06:13 PM XXCoder: unreal?
06:13 PM roycroft: i should put him back on /ignore, but he's been fairly well-behaved lately
06:13 PM roycroft: yes
06:13 PM _unreal_: infact just finished
06:13 PM XXCoder: yeah unreal is... unreal. i just ignore forever
06:14 PM _unreal_: haaa
06:14 PM _unreal_: so I'm very pleased with my design for the laser etcher ctrl panel
06:14 PM _unreal_: I may post it to thing virse
06:14 PM _unreal_: vurse
06:14 PM _unreal_: verse
06:14 PM roycroft: the south african mutant in particular is a real problem
06:14 PM CaptHindsight: had my fill as well
06:15 PM _unreal_: CaptHindsight, ?
06:16 PM _unreal_: fill of what?
06:16 PM roycroft: there is one base in the south african mutant that has switched right where the novavax vaccine would attach, making it unable to attach
06:16 PM roycroft: the efficacy of novavax with that strain is effectively zero
06:16 PM _unreal_: oh ya I made $16k on monday in the stock market
06:17 PM roycroft: and astrazenica is maybe 50%
06:17 PM _unreal_: any of you guys play the market?
06:17 PM XXCoder: :( that sucks
06:17 PM roycroft: and because of the nature of those vaccines it's likely to be several montha before they can modify the vaccine
06:17 PM XXCoder: its damned rna virus.
06:17 PM roycroft: the mrna ones fortunately attach at different points, so are not nearly as affected
06:17 PM _unreal_: ALLL viruses are RNA based
06:18 PM _unreal_: lol
06:18 PM roycroft: and an mrna vaccine can be retooled in weeks, not months
06:18 PM _unreal_: oh MRNA pissed me off I lost money on MRNA stock ticker
06:18 PM roycroft: if you got pfeizer or moderna you're in good shape, jt
06:18 PM _unreal_: lost like 2k I think? I forget
06:19 PM roycroft: and right now that's all that we are getting, but by the time i'm able to get mine, some of the new ones may be out
06:19 PM _unreal_: 7min left till my face plate is done
06:19 PM _unreal_: so I build/installed a new Y lead screw nut
06:19 PM roycroft: fortunately i live in a city that has cold storage capability, so the chances are that i'll get one of the mran ones when it's my time
06:19 PM _unreal_: what a difference
06:19 PM roycroft: as the others that don't require super cold storage will be deployed in more rural areas
06:20 PM _unreal_: roycroft, where I live ITS WARM storage LOL
06:20 PM roycroft: but our real problem currently is supply
06:20 PM roycroft: not deployment
06:21 PM roycroft: we're jabbing people as fast as we can get doses
06:21 PM _unreal_: suply and demand NEVER balance
06:21 PM _unreal_: except when it comes to CHEAP chines dog shit
06:21 PM roycroft: especially when the person who was in charge didn't give a shit about anyone or anything but himself
06:21 PM _unreal_: rails and etc.................................
06:22 PM JT-Cave: I'm surprised that Butler county got the first mass vaccine, we are middle of the population level
06:22 PM roycroft: and pushd out doses based in politics, not need
06:22 PM roycroft: i think it's great that you were able to get it so early, jt-cave
06:22 PM roycroft: thank your lucky stars
06:22 PM roycroft: but still be safe
06:22 PM JT-Cave: yeah, I jumped on it and took the wife too
06:23 PM * JT-Cave is taking no chances at all
06:23 PM roycroft: the vaccine, when effective, will keep you from getting sick, but it won't prevent you from spreading it
06:23 PM _unreal_: this faceplate is going to be sexy when it finishes cutting out
06:23 PM JT-Cave: didn't know that
06:23 PM _unreal_: with luck my holes are all the righrt sizes for the switches and everything else
06:23 PM roycroft: yeah, so you still have to mask up
06:23 PM roycroft: for the same reasons you do now
06:23 PM roycroft: until we reach herd immunity
06:23 PM JT-Cave: that might be a while it seems
06:24 PM roycroft: end of the year if we're lucky
06:24 PM roycroft: it's amazing what a change of government does for the mood of the country though
06:24 PM roycroft: when the previous president left office, 30% of americans siad the would get vaccinated
06:24 PM roycroft: now, only a couple weeks later, 50% say they will
06:25 PM roycroft: the daily lies and bullshit are over, and medical professionals are able to speak freely now
06:25 PM XXCoder: jt or never
06:25 PM roycroft: it's making a big difference
06:25 PM CaptHindsight: taking bets on Covid-23 and Covid-28
06:25 PM XXCoder: its mrna virus
06:26 PM roycroft: we need 75%
06:26 PM roycroft: but we will probably get there
06:26 PM CaptHindsight: the rest of the world maybe in another year or two
06:26 PM CaptHindsight: after
06:26 PM roycroft: maybe
06:27 PM roycroft: i think that when people have to show proof of vaccination to travel or get into restaurants/sports arenas/etc. a lot more people will be willing to get the vaccine
06:27 PM CaptHindsight: people in Asia wore masks since the first Sars or was it bird flu
06:28 PM _unreal_: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717411349541683212/809216108867354655/16130025328296950795950289970871.jpg
06:28 PM _unreal_: what cha think?
06:28 PM roycroft: it's time to go make the drawer for my bandsaw stand fit
06:29 PM JT-Cave: https://semo.craigslist.org/grd/d/poplar-bluff-ranks-of-firewood/7271223812.html
06:29 PM * JT-Cave wonders what a rank of slab wood is...
06:30 PM JT-Cave: https://semo.craigslist.org/grd/d/poplar-bluff-firewood/7263127258.html
06:30 PM JT-Cave: seasoned looks like it's been sitting for a few years lol
06:32 PM Tom_L: A rank, when referring to a quantity of wood, is defined as a well-stowed and arranged stack of wood measuring 4 feet tall, 4 feet deep and 8 feet wide. The wood logs are aligned in a parallel formation that encompasses precisely 128 cubic feet of space.
06:35 PM XXCoder: https://youtu.be/Ao7dnX8vfrc cool!
06:35 PM XXCoder: its handdrill, but it rotates right way both ways
06:35 PM _unreal_: DAMN IT
06:35 PM _unreal_: I hate it when I start a mil cycle up and forget what bit its designed for
06:36 PM _unreal_: I need to start editing my nc files with a HEADER showing required tooling bits
07:15 PM roycroft: drawer fits nicely now :)
07:16 PM roycroft: jt-cave: back when i was buying firewood off cl, "seasoned" usually meant "punky"
07:18 PM roycroft: i also had a guy come to deliver a "cord" of hardwood who showed up in an oldsmobile with the trunk half full of cottonwood and pine sticks
07:18 PM roycroft: he was not pleased when i sent him on his way
08:13 PM FinboySlick: _unreal_: It's spelled lazors ;)
08:51 PM bjorkintosh: funny thing. I haven't found anything open-sourcey like cimcoedit.
08:52 PM bjorkintosh: I just installed windows specifically to run autocad and cimco
09:24 PM CaptHindsight: bjorkintosh: http://www.scorchworks.com/index.html some open tools for G-code magic
09:24 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.scorchworks.com/Gcoderipper/gcoderipper.html