#linuxcnc Logs
Jan 27 2021
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:27 AM Deejay: moin
04:28 AM Tom_L: morning
04:28 AM XXCoder: yo
04:45 AM mrec: is it possible to modify the z touchoff value in axis, eg add 0.1mm after the actual touch off is already done?
04:46 AM mrec: I cut some metal sheet and there's still 0.1mm it seems
04:47 AM mrec: so actually I would like to move G54 z+0.1mm
04:48 AM XXCoder: cant alter position so its 0?
04:48 AM XXCoder: touchoff script maybe?
04:49 AM mrec: well it's already cut, I'd go for a second run but I want to move the g54 origin
05:21 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:21 AM JT-Cave: mrec, yeah
05:23 AM XXCoder: yo
05:30 AM mrec: well I ripped it out and use the rasp to fix it
05:37 AM Tom_L: 25F Hi 30
05:41 AM Loetmichel: hehe, its nice when something like this: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17999&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 turns out to work like this: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=18002&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 ... I LOVE it when a plan works :)
05:42 AM XXCoder: o want to get tpu sometime
06:58 AM JT-Cave: 33°F and supposed to be snowing but I've not looked outside yet
06:59 AM XXCoder: scongrager's snow
06:59 AM XXCoder: its snowing and now snowing till; you see it ;)
07:02 AM JT-Cave: quarter past dawn time to put on my chicken suit and be a chicken tender
07:43 AM Loetmichel: maaan, coworkers... 3kW space heater to dry paint... 230V/10A extensionn cord/drum with a thermal breaker... how long do you think that worked? ... then i told them: "use the half pwoer setting and spool out the drum completely... come back later: drum spooled off alright. still on the 3kW setting... and off again :(
09:16 AM JT-Shop: snowing but a bit warm so only on the deck and roof is it accumulating
09:30 AM perry_j1987: morning
09:32 AM roycroft: we just got a dusting of snow here last night
09:32 AM roycroft: just to the west and north there was a lot more
09:32 AM roycroft: and by "just" mean 10 minutes or so to the west and a half hour to the north
09:43 AM roycroft: our rural school districts, some of which just started reopening this week, are all closed today due to snow
10:05 AM JT-Shop: snowing good enough to accumulate now
10:08 AM roycroft: it's raining again here
10:09 AM roycroft: but september < now < july, so rain is expected
11:21 AM roycroft: one nice thing about painting when it's cold is that the paint levels very nicely, since it takes so long to dry
11:29 AM ziper: do I need backgears if I have vfd?
11:41 AM Rab: ziper, I've heard that backgears produce more torque than using VFD at low speeds without backgears. I suppose the details depend on the specific lathe.
11:43 AM roycroft: if you want to run slowly, i'd say yes
11:44 AM roycroft: if you have a dc motor you'll have full torque at any speed, but with an ac motor and a vfd you'll lose torque at really slow speeds
11:44 AM roycroft: plus, many motors are not rated to run at really low frequencies - if the motor has an internal cooling fan that is driven by the motor shaft you risk overheating the motor at slow speeds
11:45 AM roycroft: and yay - ups just notified me that my bandsaw fence is out for delivery
11:45 AM roycroft: given the snowy weather up north yesterday i wasn't sure if the truck was going to make it down here or not
12:08 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
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01:03 PM unterhaus_: they changed the red cross website to a font I can't see and I almost canceled my appointment
01:03 PM unterhaus_: Probably stupid to give blood right now anyway
01:10 PM * JT-Shop has no blood to spare and runs on low most of the time
01:12 PM unterhaus_: I didn't even notice last time, but I'm not engaging in athletic feats nowadays
01:16 PM JT-Shop: I have a low RBC so no giving any away
01:24 PM unterhaus_: that's a good idea
01:24 PM unterhaus_: but they probably wouldn't take it anyway
01:27 PM unterhaus_: it makes it a lot harder to tie your shoes if a dog is licking your hands
01:28 PM roycroft: there's a blood shortage around here
01:29 PM roycroft: i haven't donated blood in a long time, but i'm thinking about it
01:29 PM roycroft: i don't see how now is any worse time to donate than any other time, as long as the blood bank has proper social distancing measures in place
01:30 PM roycroft: i assume their staff all have n95 masks
01:30 PM roycroft: i'm o negative, which is a universal blood type, so mine is the kind they really want
02:05 PM perry_j1987: hows it going
02:07 PM gregcnc: making part on the lathe yet?
02:12 PM perry_j1987: yep a few
02:12 PM perry_j1987: dialing things in
02:15 PM perry_j1987: do you think a 2mm endmill could mill apart 3/8 aluminum barstock
02:17 PM gregcnc: sure, but it's probably the slowest way you could think of with a machine tool, maybe a shaper would be slower
02:19 PM perry_j1987: ya
02:21 PM perry_j1987: prob have to stick to cutting them up on the bandsaw
02:27 PM gregcnc: time to get beck to the lathe and finish first ops
02:50 PM roycroft: i would never use a milling machine to rough cut stock
02:50 PM roycroft: that just seems so wrong
02:57 PM perry_j1987: i was envisioning one jig that could cut the parts up and do first op and then flip them to other orientation and dosecond op with same fixture
02:59 PM roycroft: and you'll be wasting a lot of material, and wearing out end mills, and taking a lot more time than if you just set up a stop on the bandsaw, and chop them up there
02:59 PM perry_j1987: aye
03:00 PM gregcnc: depends if the time to saw them is more than the time to mill
03:00 PM gregcnc: and fill fitures
03:00 PM gregcnc: fixtures
03:00 PM perry_j1987: they saw fast
03:00 PM perry_j1987: but then i have to face them all
03:00 PM roycroft: i'm sure my bandsaw would be able to cut that bar stock in 1/2 the time it would take with an end mill
03:01 PM roycroft: and my bandsaw has nowhere near 1/8" of set
03:01 PM roycroft: so i wouldn't be wasting material
03:01 PM CaptHindsight: some sort of ray gun that only cuts a nanometer between sections would waste less material
03:01 PM gregcnc: material is cheap
03:02 PM gregcnc: there are so many ways to tackle making parts
03:03 PM gregcnc: right now I'm chipping 1/4" per part I'm making today. If my lathe had a larger bore, It would only be parting tool thickness
03:04 PM CaptHindsight: would you use a mill to cut flat stock too big for a saw?
03:06 PM roycroft: waste is still waste, no matter the cost
03:07 PM roycroft: and aluminium isn't all that cheap
03:07 PM gregcnc: you are free to run your shop as you please
03:07 PM roycroft: but waste notwithstanding, i could cut that bar stock on my band saw as fast as i could feed it to the saw
03:07 PM roycroft: i'm not telling you how to run your shop
03:08 PM roycroft: perry_j1987 asked for the perspective of other channel members, and i'm offering mine
03:09 PM CaptHindsight: hacksaw blade on a lathe?
03:09 PM gregcnc: If you intend to be a manufacturer, you need to look at how things are made and how others are doing things
03:09 PM roycroft: if you're really good, karate chops would be fun
03:09 PM roycroft: or a well-aimed axe
03:09 PM perry_j1987: ToT's 1" punch heh
03:09 PM gregcnc: you look around enough and you see all sorts of methods
03:10 PM gregcnc: without seeing parts, workholding, machines, etc.etc, it's all just a guess anyhow
03:11 PM roycroft: it appears that gregcnc is not going to allow my opinion to be valid until i alter it to agree with his, so i'll just go do something else now
03:11 PM gregcnc: your opinion is as valid as mine
03:12 PM gregcnc: bandsaw is the fastest least wastefull method for cutting stock
03:12 PM gregcnc: it may not be the fastest most cost effective way to make parts
03:15 PM perry_j1987: so second question then
03:16 PM perry_j1987: if i stick with bandsaw cutting them up.
03:16 PM perry_j1987: how many slugs could i clamp at once to face off the ends
03:17 PM gregcnc: clamp in what?
03:17 PM perry_j1987: some custom plate of some type
03:17 PM gregcnc: if custom? all of them?
03:17 PM CaptHindsight: what will you face them with?
03:19 PM perry_j1987: right now im just using one at a time in my machinist vise with a 1/4in endmill
03:19 PM gregcnc: depends on volume. how much effort in fixturing is worth the payoff?
03:20 PM perry_j1987: I have a handfull of mitee bites
03:21 PM gregcnc: their website is full of photos for ideas
03:22 PM perry_j1987: aye wondering how many could be clamped safely together
03:22 PM gregcnc: in the vise? 2
03:22 PM perry_j1987: for an op of facing off the ends of them to clean up the bandsaw cuts
03:23 PM gregcnc: and maybe not even that if there is a lot of variation in the clamping dimension
03:23 PM roycroft: if you stack them on top of each other to face them, then 1
03:23 PM roycroft: if you stack them horizontally, then as many as will fit inthe vise jaws
03:25 PM gregcnc: horizontally?
03:25 PM roycroft: as in nesting them so that the stack is in the same plane as the vise jaws travel
03:26 PM roycroft: such that you would be squeezing them together with the vise
03:27 PM roycroft: i leave at as an exercise for the fixture maker to sort out how to line them all up
03:28 PM gregcnc: have you done that in volume?
03:28 PM JT-Shop: my business partner tried that one time... but only once lol
03:28 PM roycroft: not in volume, but i've done it before
03:28 PM roycroft: at the very least, it works better than trying to pile a bunch of them up on some parallels
03:29 PM roycroft: if they're not fixtured well the results could easily be disasterous
03:29 PM roycroft: but that's the case with most methods
03:29 PM JT-Shop: you can stand up a bunch if you have clamps from both X and Y sides and if the end ones are the biggest but it usually not worth the effort
03:29 PM JT-Shop: or risk
03:32 PM gregcnc: I see guys trying more than 2 parts (machine finish) in a vise a lot on instagram. shortly after posts often show carnage or the new fixture for two parts max.....
03:33 PM gregcnc: there are various other methods for handling many parts between a single set of vise jaws, but it gets as complicated as a pallet
03:35 PM roycroft: we're talking about facing the ends of the parts, and i've done a half dozen at a time without any issues
03:35 PM gregcnc: cool
03:36 PM roycroft: my parts were much wider than they were thick, and that helpe a lot, i'm sure
03:36 PM roycroft: helped
03:36 PM gregcnc: and why i say without specifics, it's just a guess
03:36 PM roycroft: i'll agree there
03:36 PM roycroft: even 2 may not be safe, depending on the parts :)
03:37 PM roycroft: sometimes even 1 is not safe without a custom fixture
03:37 PM gregcnc: i learned some from doing. mostly by reading about other's failures
03:38 PM Tom_L: i cut stock on the mill quite frequently
03:39 PM Tom_L: no bandsaw here
03:39 PM gregcnc: I gave up cutting toolholder short on the band saw
03:40 PM gregcnc: after killing a couple blades on holders that were probably 50+HRC in the center
03:40 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga9n4Laub1Q
03:40 PM roycroft: if you don't have a band saw that changes the equation
03:41 PM Tom_L: quicker than any other method i have here
03:41 PM gregcnc: hacksaw is good for arm strength
03:41 PM Tom_L: done that plenty
03:42 PM perry_j1987: oh man dont remind me about hacksaws existence heh
03:42 PM perry_j1987: just almost forgot about those pains heh
03:42 PM perry_j1987: the things i did before i got the bandsaw lol
03:43 PM roycroft: you could always have used a power hacksaw
03:43 PM roycroft: they are cheap
03:43 PM roycroft: i think a can of spinach costs about a dollar
03:44 PM Tom_L: i've got a jig saw but it takes longer than milling
04:02 PM roycroft: if you mask around the bar stock really well leaving just a slit where you want to do the cut you can drip acid on it and etch away a slot to part it
04:03 PM perry_j1987: heh
04:03 PM Tom_L: seems like alot of fuss
04:12 PM perry_j1987: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9xUQWo4vN0 love these videos
04:12 PM Thorhian: Hey roycroft, I got that 6x4 bandsaw :D Working well so far. Rotation pin seems to be good too.
04:16 PM Tom_L: perry_j1987, wasn't it bell labs that made the first one?
04:16 PM perry_j1987: i believe so
04:16 PM Tom_L: before reading the description under the video :)
04:17 PM perry_j1987: intel and bunch of others spun off from the guys at bell labs back in those days
04:18 PM sync: Tom_L: that's incorrect, but nobody wants to change history :D
04:19 PM Tom_L: seems of late everybody want's to change history
04:19 PM roycroft: that's great, thorhian
04:19 PM roycroft: now add a hydraulic downfeed to it
04:19 PM roycroft: you'll be happy you did
04:19 PM sync: some russian experimenters came up with transistors before them, but nobody translated the paper
04:20 PM sync: and it did not gain much traction in russia either
04:20 PM roycroft: ben franklin probably discovered the transistor first, but called it something different :P
04:49 PM JT-Shop: I should knock off and go work on my workbench but I'm on a designing roll
04:49 PM Tom_L: what are we designing?
04:52 PM JT-Shop: the top cutter spoke lathe magazine
04:52 PM Tom_L: is this one alot different than the first?
04:54 PM JT-Shop: yep it has a top cutter shaft
04:54 PM JT-Shop: looks mean lol
04:55 PM Tom_L: 11K jobs lost due to closing the Keystone pipeline
04:56 PM roycroft: most of them were canadian jobs
04:56 PM Tom_L: Wisconsin
04:56 PM roycroft: the keystone pipeline has been nothing but lies from day one
04:57 PM roycroft: the biggest lie being that it has anything at all to do with energy independence
05:02 PM roycroft: investing in clean energy is what will create sustainable jobs
05:02 PM roycroft: and will keep us from falling farther behind the rest of the world
05:03 PM roycroft: keystone just puts money in the pockets of canadian oil copanies
05:03 PM roycroft: companies
05:03 PM roycroft: and every drop of that oil that does not spill and pollute our country would go straight to the gulf of mexico to be exported
05:08 PM XXCoder: tom flip side is that it would have been lost after its finished anyway
05:08 PM XXCoder: pipeline only needs few people after tis done
05:09 PM roycroft: correct
05:09 PM roycroft: and almost all of those jobs would be canadian jobs
05:10 PM perry_j1987: ugh headache
05:15 PM CaptHindsight: long terms goals vs short term goals, one set of interests vs another
05:16 PM roycroft: my concern is not just about all the pollution and the cost of dealing with that
05:16 PM roycroft: it's that there are many renewable energy sources that are already cheaper than petroleum-based energy
05:16 PM roycroft: and it's other countries who are leading development of thoes technologies
05:17 PM roycroft: every single day we're falling farther behind the rest of the world
05:17 PM CaptHindsight: sure but half the people in the USA don't understand much of anything besides "what will you do for me now?"
05:17 PM roycroft: also, petroleum is a global market
05:18 PM roycroft: there's no such thing as 'domestic oil' from a national security and economic viewpoint
05:18 PM roycroft: and that's not going to change
05:19 PM roycroft: but the thing is
05:19 PM CaptHindsight: half the people just don't care about others or their own futures a decade or two from now
05:19 PM roycroft: we need to devlop new, clean energy in west virginia, not in silicon valley
05:19 PM roycroft: because west virginia is where the jobs are being lost
05:19 PM CaptHindsight: and can't comprehend enough to have a conversation about it
05:20 PM roycroft: we need to build wind and solar power generation plants in wyoming
05:20 PM roycroft: where most of the coal is mined these days
05:21 PM CaptHindsight: don't care and don't believe in science
05:21 PM roycroft: and we need to train those mine workers for the new jobs
05:21 PM roycroft: the ones that pay better, are safer, and more enjoyable
05:22 PM roycroft: nobody is saying just shut down all the coal mines and let the miners figure out what to do next
05:22 PM roycroft: some say that others are saying that
05:22 PM roycroft: but nobody is saying that in reality
05:22 PM roycroft: or thinking that
05:22 PM roycroft: i've always had a poor opinion of hillary clinton as a politician
05:23 PM roycroft: as a policy wonk she's great
05:23 PM roycroft: but she's a lousy politian
05:23 PM roycroft: politician
05:23 PM roycroft: and when she ran for president i groaned
05:23 PM roycroft: then, early in her campaign she went to west virginia
05:23 PM roycroft: and said "you're all going to lose your jobs"
05:23 PM roycroft: she was right
05:24 PM roycroft: but she should not have started with that
05:24 PM CaptHindsight: they don't understand you, can't reason, you don't sound like who they believe
05:24 PM roycroft: she never got to say that it's not her policies that would cause them to lose their jobs
05:24 PM CaptHindsight: you sound wrong so you must be attacked
05:24 PM roycroft: at the time it was natural gas that was the cause
05:24 PM roycroft: but she never got that out
05:24 PM roycroft: she started with "you're going to lose your jobs"
05:25 PM roycroft: and everyone tuned out
05:25 PM roycroft: they never heard her say "but i have a plan to retrain you for better jobs"
05:25 PM CaptHindsight: so what did we learn from this?
05:25 PM roycroft: we learned that i was right all along that she's a lousy politician :)
05:26 PM CaptHindsight: the cons do a much better job of marketing to simpletons
05:26 PM roycroft: well yes
05:26 PM roycroft: but they're not really marketing
05:27 PM roycroft: i mean, they kind of ar
05:27 PM roycroft: e
05:27 PM roycroft: but they're not selling what they will do
05:27 PM roycroft: they're selling how much they agree with what their followers hate
05:27 PM roycroft: but yeah
05:27 PM roycroft: i've always said that republicans are better at politics and democrats are better at governing
05:28 PM roycroft: and i realise that not everyone agrees with me on that :)
05:29 PM roycroft: and truth be told, my belief is probably better expressed by saying that republicans are better at politics and democrats are less bad at governing
05:29 PM CaptHindsight: marketing, control, PSYOP, propaganda
05:30 PM CaptHindsight: you can't reason with people that no longer reason
05:30 PM roycroft: the thing is, if you want to let every idiot in the country vote, then you're going to get a lot of idiotic voting
05:30 PM XXCoder: its why I support schools heavily
05:31 PM CaptHindsight: we make some of the best idiots
05:31 PM XXCoder: smarter the people surrounding me is., the better
05:31 PM roycroft: and i believe in universal suffrage
05:31 PM roycroft: and all the drawbacks associated therewith
05:31 PM roycroft: that's the thing that i really don't get about some of the maga people
05:32 PM roycroft: they basically say "i am voting for him because he's as simple and stupid as me"
05:32 PM roycroft: i should think that everyone would want their president to be smarter than they are
05:32 PM CaptHindsight: nope
05:33 PM CaptHindsight: pick who they want to have a beer with
05:33 PM roycroft: i guess one has to be smart to value being smarter than oneselef
05:33 PM XXCoder: smartness dont matter besides ability to do job
05:33 PM XXCoder: of course smartness makes it easier to do job, but its not ultimate all stat
05:33 PM roycroft: i'm not a big fan of our new president - he was low on my list of folks i'd want to win
05:33 PM XXCoder: me too
05:33 PM roycroft: i'm warming up to him though
05:33 PM roycroft: but anyway
05:34 PM XXCoder: we need instant runoff voting
05:34 PM CaptHindsight: there were voters that voted for the guy who had his name on the checks
05:34 PM CaptHindsight: how simple is that?
05:34 PM roycroft: of all the presidents we've had in my lifetime, he's probably the one i'd most want to have a beer with
05:34 PM XXCoder: you would think president who mocked disabled people would have zero deaf support but nope
05:34 PM XXCoder: theres many deaf supporters.
05:35 PM CaptHindsight: XXCoder: how do children behave?
05:35 PM roycroft: and keep in mind that i'm on my 13th president now
05:35 PM XXCoder: children?
05:35 PM roycroft: actually, i'd probably enjoy a beer with president carter
05:35 PM JT-Shop: chickens are going inside for the night it must be my sign
05:35 PM CaptHindsight: XXCoder: they don't act like adults
05:36 PM CaptHindsight: ID's say over 21 or 18
05:36 PM XXCoder: well yeah but im not getting why youre talking about children?
05:36 PM CaptHindsight: what they are intellectually and even emotionally for many
05:37 PM CaptHindsight: in the bodies of adults, meat suits
05:37 PM XXCoder: ah ok
05:38 PM roycroft: xxcoder: there's some cognative dissonance involved that results in shifting to an alternate reality on things like that
05:38 PM roycroft: they see the bad behavior
05:38 PM roycroft: they see it very clearly
05:39 PM roycroft: but they decide that what they see cannot be real, because it conflicts with what they already "know" about the person
05:39 PM XXCoder: or shift it into "just joking"
05:39 PM roycroft: so they alter what they saw into something else more benign
05:40 PM roycroft: and from that point on they never "saw" what they actually saw
05:41 PM CaptHindsight: well trained
05:41 PM roycroft: i should go see if it's time to shoot paint
05:41 PM roycroft: we've wandered way off topic again, and i'm sure are offending or at least annoying many
05:42 PM CaptHindsight: roycroft: difficult to avoid since they are triggered by so much of reality
05:43 PM XXCoder: there was recent uproar in deaf groups
05:43 PM XXCoder: seems that biden's interpeter was trumper that supported riot
05:43 PM XXCoder: https://time.com/5933592/white-house-sign-language-interpreter/
05:44 PM CaptHindsight: the SNL skit writes itself
05:45 PM CaptHindsight: XXCoder: did people go back and check her translation?
05:45 PM XXCoder: she was professional thankfully
05:45 PM XXCoder: code of ethics is very strong, she violated it by ignoring conflict of interest
05:46 PM CaptHindsight: Let me tell you about ethics!
05:46 PM CaptHindsight: self righteous
05:47 PM CaptHindsight: https://imgur.com/gallery/lNquYtd
05:47 PM XXCoder: yeppers
05:48 PM XXCoder: im 3d printing bernie seated heh
05:48 PM XXCoder: yep model exists
05:48 PM CaptHindsight: hah, lots of fun pics from that
05:48 PM XXCoder: yeah
05:51 PM CaptHindsight: some CNC https://imgur.com/gallery/rCMfHji
05:52 PM XXCoder: saw that
05:52 PM XXCoder: pretty cool
05:52 PM roycroft: well, more poor planning
05:52 PM roycroft: the painting is done for now, but some of the painted parts are on top of my tablesaw, which i need for my next task
05:53 PM roycroft: the problem with having a small shop
05:53 PM roycroft: i would die for a dedicated finishing room
05:53 PM JT-Cave: then how would you use it?
05:54 PM CaptHindsight: I'm battling with similar only with low temps outside
05:54 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, he would will it to us
05:54 PM roycroft: when i'm reincarnated as a goat, of course :)
05:54 PM roycroft: that's my big problem, actually
05:54 PM CaptHindsight: i can paint inside but it's 7F outside so venting the shop is a problem
05:54 PM roycroft: my fabrication shop is only 5 degrees, and that's with a heater that has been running 24/7 for a few days
05:55 PM roycroft: so i shoot a coat of paint
05:55 PM roycroft: i should be able to recoat in an hour
05:55 PM CaptHindsight: 65F in here
05:55 PM roycroft: instead, i have to wait a day
05:55 PM CaptHindsight: 18C and -14C
05:55 PM Tom_L: doesn't sound very well insulated
05:56 PM JT-Cave: it would be a lot warmer... if you used fahrenheit
05:56 PM roycroft: yeah, but in the summer it's a lot cooler when i use real units :)
05:56 PM JT-Cave: lol
05:58 PM roycroft: i'm just a good, law-abiding citizen who uses our nation's official system of measurements
05:58 PM Tom_L: that number trickery doesn't fool my frozen arse when i wander outside
05:58 PM roycroft: and not some outlaw who uses that old system that we got rod of almost 150 years ago
05:58 PM roycroft: rid
06:08 PM roycroft: cloris leachman has died
06:08 PM CaptHindsight: units is units
06:09 PM CaptHindsight: 94 good run
06:09 PM roycroft: yes
06:09 PM roycroft: but still sad
06:10 PM CaptHindsight: yeah I was just looking at who is left from the Mary Tyler Moore show
06:10 PM CaptHindsight: drove past the house they used for the show recently in Minneapolis
06:11 PM roycroft: ed asner is still around
06:11 PM roycroft: but he's like ancient++ now
06:11 PM CaptHindsight: 91
06:12 PM roycroft: gavin macleod is still alive
06:12 PM roycroft: and betty white of course
06:12 PM CaptHindsight: and Betty White
06:12 PM roycroft: she just turned 99
06:12 PM roycroft: those are the only three
06:13 PM CaptHindsight: time to paint before it gets too cold outside
06:14 PM roycroft: ups have been coming in the late morning/early afternoon lately
06:14 PM roycroft: but of course today, when i'm waiting for them so i can move on with my project, they're late like they used to be
06:15 PM CaptHindsight: does your driver flip his route once or twice a week?
06:15 PM CaptHindsight: front to back, back to front
06:15 PM CaptHindsight: ours is like clockwork, same every day
06:16 PM roycroft: i5 is shut down just north of the california border
06:16 PM roycroft: i thought the nasty weather was all north of here
06:18 PM roycroft: the road doesn't look too bad there
06:18 PM roycroft: maybe it's really icy - that's hard to tell from a road cam
07:06 PM perry_j1987: this cad takes so much longer with a headache ugh
07:15 PM roycroft: have a wee dram
07:15 PM roycroft: it will numb the pain
07:28 PM perry_j1987: dont have any in the house
07:41 PM roycroft: what kind of house doesn't have a bottle of scotch for medicinal purposes?
07:42 PM gregcnc: or mental purposes?
07:43 PM roycroft: mental health falls under medicinal purposes
07:51 PM perry_j1987: ran out
07:51 PM perry_j1987: I havnt been eating much lately and havnt been to stores even longer heh
08:12 PM roycroft: the mail just arrived
08:12 PM roycroft: at 6pm
08:12 PM roycroft: so something has changed already
08:13 PM roycroft: which is interseting because we have the same postmaster general (for now)
08:39 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210127_104237.jpg
08:39 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210127_104237.jpg
08:39 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210127_104628.jpg
08:41 PM Tom_L: having fun?
08:46 PM XXCoder: fancy
08:55 PM gregcnc: Mail here went back to normal weeks ago
08:59 PM gregcnc: is selec any good? I need a break delay timer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R5C7MES
09:00 PM roycroft: this is the first day in months that mail has arrived after 4:45pm
09:12 PM XXCoder: 7 pm no mail
09:12 PM skunkworks: I am always having fun....
09:13 PM skunkworks: dad has the tracking number for the starlink hardware..
09:17 PM gregcnc: that sounds like fun
09:30 PM Isleape1 is now known as Isleape
11:22 PM skunkworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhHDrK6sCRs
11:25 PM XXCoder: i wonder hopw extreme you can get within certain diameter
11:42 PM CaptHindsight: skunkworks: which filament was used?
11:47 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ZELQdgBbU
11:48 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YC-0C8oPUo
11:48 PM CaptHindsight: timing belts will take the flex
11:52 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5GMOBgz6s Cycloid prototype under microscope
11:54 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdRGrTHq4hA