#linuxcnc Logs
Jan 10 2021
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:31 AM veegee_: Niagara cutter solid carbide end mills are quite nice
12:37 AM veegee_: really expensive though
12:37 AM veegee_: What do you guys use?
12:37 AM Tom_L: https://www.lakeshorecarbide.com/
12:37 AM Tom_L: http://onlinecarbide.com/
12:37 AM veegee_: Nice, thanks
12:40 AM veegee_: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B003CYKLKU
12:40 AM veegee_: I absolutely love this endmill
01:05 AM veegee_: https://www.amazon.ca/Brown-Sharpe-01889023-Valueline-Indicator/dp/B00IXAL57G
01:05 AM veegee_: lol "black face"
01:05 AM veegee_: damn I'm such a child
01:59 AM Deejay: moin
05:07 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:08 AM XXCoder: hey
05:12 AM Tom_L: morning
05:13 AM XXCoder: hey
05:34 AM radex: hi there! We ( #hackerspace-pl ) have a linuxcnc'd Bridgeport Series 1 MDI, and our machine has a Erickson QC 30 taper spindle
05:34 AM radex: we've finally managed to identify 5 toolholders that came with the machine
05:35 AM radex: they appear to be Erickson DA200 and DA180
05:35 AM radex: do any of y'all have experience with these collet systems?
05:35 AM radex: we're wondering if it's worth buying collets to those, since they're pretty rare and more expensive than cheapo ER collets
05:36 AM radex: but QC toolholders are also pretty rare and expensive so if we can have 5 free toolholders, that would be great
05:58 AM JT-Cave: DA collets aren't the best but at least they are repeatable when changing tools while ER are not
05:58 AM XXCoder: interesting
05:59 AM radex: JT-Cave: can you elaborate, please? :)
06:00 AM JT-Cave: you can have preset tool offsets with QC holders with ER you must set the Z offset each time you load a tool
06:01 AM radex: oh, are they not pass-through?
06:01 AM JT-Cave: pass-through?
06:02 AM radex: i'm just not sure what you mean - why do DA collets not require correcting the Z-offset?
06:03 AM JT-Cave: not DA collets the QC holder
06:03 AM JT-Cave: doesn't matter what collet the QC holder uses
06:05 AM radex: also, am I right in understanding that DA collets get aligned only by the slopes in the tool holder & locknut, not the sides? As far as I can tell, DA collets have straight sides, and my tool holders measure significantly wider than the dimensions of DA collets I can find online
06:05 AM radex: JT-Cave: Ahh, yes, I understand now
06:07 AM JT-Cave: opps I was thinking of R8 collets not ER, ER are much better than DA
06:07 AM JT-Cave: sorry early and multi tasking
06:08 AM JT-Cave: R8, 5C and 16C are not repeatable
06:08 AM * JT-Cave gets back to programming lol
06:16 AM JT-Cave: radex, that is correct about the DA collets using only the angles to align
06:17 AM radex: JT-Cave: thanks!
06:19 AM radex: so, in your mind, are DA collets worth using at all? Or just not as good as ER but good enough for most milling work?
06:19 AM radex: i think that would be enough for us to know what decision to make :)
06:19 AM JT-Cave: they work but are not as good as ER
06:20 AM radex: ok, thanks!
06:21 AM JT-Cave: I have a BP Series 1 with a Kwik Switch 200 spindle
06:21 AM JT-Cave: what is MDI?
06:25 AM radex: MDI as in manual data input… my understanding is it was a simpler, cheaper version of Series 1 CNC
06:25 AM radex: the Heidehein control didn't have a CRT, just 3 lines of numbers I think
06:25 AM radex: and it has both motors and manual axis wheels
06:25 AM JT-Cave: ah, I have an Anilam 1100M conversion kit on mine
06:26 AM JT-Cave: I use the MPG and MDI most of the time on that machine
06:26 AM JT-Cave: are you going to convert it to LinuxCNC?
06:27 AM radex: it's been converted a few years ago, but the project was never fully finished… we're fixing some remaining mechanical issues
06:28 AM radex: I _think_ the axis motors have been replaced, and we use Mesa fpga card + io card to interface between the PC and the rest of the machine
06:28 AM JT-Cave: I use QtPyVCP on my BP it's a nice interface and very customizable
06:29 AM JT-Cave: https://github.com/jethornton/mill_touch_v6
06:29 AM radex: i'm not familiar with this, will check out
06:30 AM radex: we have AXIS but not exactly happy with the UI
06:30 AM radex: especially that we have a touch screen, and it woudl be nice to have a touch-optimized UI
06:30 AM JT-Cave: http://www.qtpyvcp.com/
06:31 AM JT-Cave: mine is a touch screen and don't know if you noticed the hole ops built into the gui
09:11 AM _unreal_: Just cut the first part to my laser etcher Z
09:11 AM _unreal_: that I'm building
09:12 AM _unreal_: I like my design I have come up with. kind of looks like a candy cane
09:59 AM perry_j1987: morning
10:11 AM perry_j1987: hows it going
10:11 AM perry_j1987: eveybody got their coffee yet
10:12 AM JT-Cave: long time ago...
10:12 AM JT-Cave: chicken poop all cleaned up...
10:12 AM JT-Cave: fires going in both shops...
10:12 AM JT-Cave: almost time for a nap...
10:14 AM JavaBean: maybe not a good idea to sleep while your shops are burning
10:14 AM perry_j1987: JT-Cave your not suppose to link coffee with time
10:15 AM perry_j1987: its an all day occurrence
10:15 AM JT-Cave: why not?
10:15 AM JT-Cave: not for me
10:16 AM perry_j1987: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Emco-Compact-5-Tool-Turret-Changer-6-position-turret/184562148562?hash=item2af8c2e4d2:g:CccAAOSwWSZfxuII looks like i found a source for a small turret
10:24 AM gregcnc: how much x travel do you have?
10:25 AM perry_j1987: sheet for the lathe says 4in
10:25 AM gregcnc: yeah not much for gang tooling
10:26 AM perry_j1987: luckily its all tiny stuff
10:26 AM perry_j1987: so can keep the tool pack pretty dense
10:30 AM _unreal_: milling the main z carriage now
10:31 AM perry_j1987: for starters im planning to just keep using a qctp and small gang block for drillbits/reamers
10:32 AM _unreal_: qctp? what is that.
10:32 AM _unreal_: I dont have a lathe so not up on lathe lingo
10:34 AM perry_j1987: quick change tool post
10:34 AM _unreal_: interesting. there is a report out that apple is about to put out an update patch. to disable the emergency broadcast service on all apple products. something related to lin wood and italy and massive evidence. and trying to keep lin wood a secreat
10:34 AM _unreal_: AHHH
10:35 AM _unreal_: ok
10:38 AM _unreal_: oh thats weird? dont get why its not doing rapids on certain moves?
10:41 AM perry_j1987: hasnt had its coffee yet? doesnt want to move too fast heh
10:43 AM _unreal_: oh DAMN!!!!! this would make for a great cnc controller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pt0_bI2be4
10:45 AM perry_j1987: 400 bucks
10:45 AM perry_j1987: use the joystick for jogging haha
10:59 AM perry_j1987: cant wait for mail to arrive
10:59 AM perry_j1987: caps and parport bob
10:59 AM perry_j1987: might be able to muster some movement from the new lathe today heh
11:03 AM _unreal_: fuck me I just crashed my bit
11:03 AM _unreal_: .8mm rasp
11:03 AM _unreal_: doing micro work
11:03 AM _unreal_: not sure how I miss judged distance
11:06 AM perry_j1987: what are you makin
11:08 AM _unreal_: I purchased
11:08 AM _unreal_: a laser etcher with christmas money
11:08 AM _unreal_: 25x25"
11:09 AM _unreal_: I could have just put it together but I'm making upgrades
11:09 AM _unreal_: so I'm doing all of the upgrades to it before I put it together
11:09 AM _unreal_: doesnt make a lot of sense to put it together then take it apart to do the upgrades later
11:09 AM _unreal_: I'd rather just put it together with the corrections and fixes
11:09 AM _unreal_: first
11:11 AM _unreal_: so better strap locks
11:12 AM _unreal_: meaning for holding down the timing belt strips
11:14 AM _unreal_: and right now I'm cutting out the main carriage body that the Z stepper hooks to. when I get this cut out. thats a HUGE step
11:14 AM _unreal_: then I have to take the acrylic :S mount off the machine and toss that on my cnc and see if I can mill/drill the few spots that have to be delt with on that
11:15 AM _unreal_: I'm thinking double sided tape for the acrylic
11:15 AM _unreal_: because I have to true it up
11:37 AM _unreal_: jesus I thought I broke a bit... the part was under stress and sprung a tiny bit
11:37 AM _unreal_: must have had a hair holding it
11:37 AM _unreal_: OH thank god
11:38 AM _unreal_: I was like HOW.... HOW could I break a bit I'm cutting 1/5th of a MM depth
11:41 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
11:57 AM _unreal_: omg... make it end. an other pass an other fraction deeper
11:57 AM _unreal_: damn part has a tiny warp in it. so my depth isnt exactly corect
11:58 AM _unreal_: I should be able to just pick this part up
11:58 AM _unreal_: ARG...
12:08 PM _unreal_: no one around sigh
12:11 PM JavaBean: there are people around, but we are just sitting back with popcorn
12:12 PM _unreal_: oh... I see so I'm this hours entertainment LOL
12:12 PM _unreal_: speaking of
12:13 PM _unreal_: I may post my upgrades for the laser etcher to thing vers
12:14 PM JavaBean: cool, always nice to see the upgrades for things posted to thingie
12:18 PM _unreal_: ya people typically going GAGA for my work
12:54 PM unterhaus_: andypugh I sent you a stmbl question via email
02:01 PM miss0r: I just completely overbuild a new exhaust ventilator mount for the bathroom
02:01 PM miss0r: The windows had a ø200mm cutout for one of those ye'oldie "natural ventilation" open close ones.
02:02 PM miss0r: My son and I turned down a nice disk of acrylic, to have a shoulder that fit snug into the hole, and left a nice surface for the glue. and mounted a new ventilator in it. It eded up looking like crap and my lathe is a mess 1/10 would not recommend.
02:34 PM jdh]: turning acrylic can be a stringy mess
02:37 PM miss0r: oh it was :) The part turned out nice. But once it was glued to the glass, it didn't look nice anymore ;-/
03:20 PM JT-Shop: bubbles?
03:32 PM miss0r: JT-Cave: Nah. My mistake of using a white compound. Coubled with this windows being an old timey one with a "physical" opaque pattern on the inside. To defuse any view you could have inside. It just.. well sucked
03:32 PM miss0r: Anyway. I'm off for tonight. See ya
04:26 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, ever use a jacobs chuck on your mill?
04:50 PM JT-Cave: on the BP knee mill yes
04:54 PM JT-Cave: don't use it much
04:58 PM Tom_L: sometime could i get you to check the runout with a dowel pin?
04:58 PM Tom_L: curious if it's my setup or the chuck
04:59 PM Tom_L: both the mt adapter and the one i made aren't that good
05:01 PM JT-Cave: could be the adapter, the chuck jaws... or more I'm not remembering now lol
05:01 PM JT-Cave: I'll go stir the chili con carni and check it
05:06 PM Tom_L: no rush
05:07 PM Tom_L: i'm getting ~.010 runout which isn't good but can probably use drills with it
05:08 PM Tom_L: tried 2 chucks on 3 adapters and that's the best i could get even with sherline original stuff
05:08 PM JT-Shop: it's about 0.005" TIR
05:09 PM JT-Shop: but it
05:09 PM JT-Shop: s a cheap chuck not a jackobs
05:09 PM _unreal_: well my z adapter is turning out rather nice
05:11 PM _unreal_: making my end stops right now
05:11 PM Tom_L: i didn't expect it to be like a collet etc
05:12 PM _unreal_: next task. pull apart the x/z head that is just sitting on the frame of the new laser etcher so I can setup and mill in the adjustments I need
05:12 PM _unreal_: well thats one end stop milled
05:12 PM _unreal_: :)
05:12 PM _unreal_: amazing how fast micro parts are
05:13 PM _unreal_: what is interesting is I hve a little bit of slop in my machine making tiny circles
05:13 PM _unreal_: but I dont know where the play is OR if its the micro stepping?
05:14 PM _unreal_: My home machine is direct drive nema 24 and nema 32
05:14 PM _unreal_: with 16x micro stepping
05:14 PM Tom_L: backlash will show up at the quadrant intersections
05:15 PM _unreal_: I think its in my Y axis OR my y bearings are wearing?
05:16 PM _unreal_: I have an upgrade I've never done to my machine
05:16 PM Tom_L: never seen your setup or what you do with it so it's hard to tell
05:16 PM _unreal_: I've never installed the support wire
05:16 PM _unreal_: you know one of those cross wires to keep both left/right sides even
05:16 PM _unreal_: running on pullys
05:46 PM JT-Cave: tomorrow will be a busy day...
05:55 PM Juzzy: Hey guys, curious where I can find how to setup my A axis as a Y mirror. The Wizard sets it up in degrees, and I've tried mimicking the Y axis in the .ini without success. I don't know how to make them work together, and A doesn't seem to be moving at the same speed as Y.
05:56 PM JT-Cave: what's a Wizard?
05:56 PM JT-Cave: ABC are all rotary axes
05:57 PM Juzzy: If I use the little Stepconf wizard, XYZA - A is in degrees where all other are in linear
05:58 PM Juzzy: if I try to copy Y to a new A, I cant figure out where I tell linuxcnc to mirror Y, if I tried to use it like it is it would bind up and break something.
05:59 PM XXCoder: you mean, use 2 same time for same axis?
05:59 PM XXCoder: you setup 2 joints and set it as y axis. cant be done by config I think
05:59 PM Juzzy: ya, it's to move a gantry/x over plywood, so I have 2 axes to drive Y
06:00 PM JT-Cave: UVW are linear axes that run parallel to XYZ
06:00 PM Juzzy: axis*
06:00 PM XXCoder: yeah you dont use seperate axises for 2, you use 2 joints and use one axis Y
06:00 PM Juzzy: ahhhhhh
06:00 PM JT-Cave: stepconf may not have that dunno
06:00 PM JT-Cave: Juzzy, is this a gantry?
06:00 PM Juzzy: Y moved the gantry, x is the actual gantry
06:00 PM Juzzy: moves*
06:01 PM Juzzy: so if I swap A over to V, it will know its a mirror of Y?
06:01 PM JT-Cave: that doesn't make sense
06:01 PM XXCoder: Juzzy: read up what I menioned, joints.
06:02 PM JT-Cave: if you have two joints (steppers) then you don't want V
06:02 PM Juzzy: XXCoder, k
06:02 PM JT-Cave: yeah joints
06:02 PM JT-Cave: stepconf may not be able to handle that
06:02 PM JT-Cave: is this a parallel port setup?
06:02 PM XXCoder: jt nah it cant. its one joint per axis. its only for basic machine
06:02 PM Juzzy: yea, poor man's cnc
06:03 PM XXCoder: while 2 steppers on one axis seem basic, its not configurable by stepconf
06:03 PM Juzzy: i'm trying to build something for halfsheets of plywood
06:03 PM XXCoder: nice :)
06:03 PM JT-Cave: try my 7i96 configuration tool and change the pins to match a parallel port
06:03 PM JT-Cave: https://jethornton.github.io/7i96/install.html
06:04 PM JT-Cave: I should finish my parallel port configuration tool
06:05 PM JT-Cave: but tomorrow will be a very busy day
06:06 PM JT-Cave: Juzzy, assuming you're using LinuxCNC 2.8???
06:06 PM Juzzy: k, thanks, I'll do some reading on joints
06:06 PM Juzzy: yea i'm just using a bob, not Mesa/ess/etc
06:07 PM Juzzy: a super basic one at that. a C10
06:07 PM Juzzy: made by cnc4pc
06:07 PM JT-Cave: you can still use my configuration tool just change the pin names
06:07 PM Juzzy: ah ok
06:07 PM JT-Cave: yeah I have a C10
06:07 PM XXCoder: i also use bob system, though smaller machine so one stepper per axis heh
06:08 PM JT-Cave: if you run your stepconf config and use my tool you can get a file with all the pin names
06:08 PM Juzzy: yea i've watched probably 6 YT vids, build one based on 2 different videos heh, but nont use linuxcnc, and the stuff on lcnc dont cover mirrored motors.
06:09 PM Juzzy: I'm to the part where I have to do final assembly and now stuck
06:09 PM JT-Cave: just create your config with my tool, run the stepconf config and get all the pin names
06:09 PM Juzzy: aight
06:09 PM JT-Cave: putube usually sucks
06:10 PM Juzzy: well I had a small chinese one, I ran rpi pycnc or whatever it was called. super easy
06:10 PM Juzzy: just not enough uhmph
06:10 PM * JT-Cave goes to stir (sample) the chili con carne
06:10 PM Juzzy: would love to see pics of you guy's builds tho
06:11 PM Juzzy: I went with sbr20 rails for x and z, I think my motors may be a tad small, 570oz n34's
06:12 PM Juzzy: and it's all 15m bults for now, will swap with pinion i think later. I just need something working to get some exp
06:12 PM Juzzy: belts*
06:12 PM JT-Cave: gnipsel.com
06:12 PM JT-Cave: cnc page
06:13 PM Juzzy: nice dude
06:13 PM JT-Cave: thanks
06:13 PM JT-Cave: plasma table is belt drive
06:14 PM Juzzy: ya makes sense, no pressure
06:14 PM Juzzy: i'm hoping this is good enough for starting.
06:14 PM JT-Cave: and fast travel for thin material
06:15 PM JT-Cave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knf3cPrZPrk
06:15 PM JT-Cave: 12 years ago in my basement
06:15 PM JT-Cave: the plasma is alive
06:16 PM JT-Cave: damn that's a crappy video lol
06:16 PM Juzzy: ya, didnt have 4k back then for $100 heh
06:16 PM roycroft: well fun
06:16 PM Juzzy: well thanks again, and XXC
06:17 PM roycroft: i'm doing a glueup right now
06:17 PM roycroft: the hysteresis band on my vacuum pump seems to be about 1/2psi now
06:17 PM roycroft: it's usually 4psi
06:17 PM JT-Cave: roycroft, got my table top glued up today... hope to find time to fit the mini wagon wheel vise tomorrow evening
06:17 PM roycroft: the panels are glued up already
06:17 PM roycroft: i can't stop now
06:18 PM roycroft: i'm still having the issue with the compressor popping the breaker, even though i've done a lot of work to try to eliminate that
06:18 PM JT-Cave: vacuum laminating?
06:18 PM roycroft: with the hysteresis band so narrow, the pump is cycling almost constantly
06:18 PM roycroft: yes
06:18 PM roycroft: and so, of course, is the compressor
06:18 PM roycroft: add to all of this that it's 13 degrees out
06:18 PM roycroft: too cool for the glue to set up quickly on its own
06:19 PM JT-Cave: 0.5psig is pretty small
06:19 PM roycroft: to warm to justify turning the heater on
06:19 PM roycroft: yes, it is
06:19 PM JT-Cave: 13C?
06:19 PM roycroft: 4psi is normal for this pressure switch
06:19 PM roycroft: yes
06:19 PM roycroft: it's a venturi vacuum pump
06:19 PM JT-Cave: pretty warm compared to here it's 0°C
06:20 PM roycroft: roycroft.us/Vacuum_Pump.jpeg
06:20 PM JT-Cave: I used to vacuum form RC sailplane wings
06:20 PM roycroft: yes, but not warm enough for the glue to dry quickly
06:21 PM JT-Cave: ahh using a vacuum generator not an actual vacuum pump
06:21 PM roycroft: i'm going to have to babysit this for at least a couple hours
06:21 PM roycroft: yes
06:21 PM roycroft: as i said, venturi vacuum pump
06:21 PM roycroft: it normally works brilliantly
06:22 PM roycroft: roycroft.us/Vacuum_Bag.jpeg
06:22 PM JT-Cave: an old compressor from a frige will work
06:22 PM roycroft: that's not today's glue-up
06:22 PM roycroft: but that's my setup
06:22 PM roycroft: i need a smaller bag - that one is rather unwieldy for small jobs
06:23 PM roycroft: but those bags are really expensive - that one was almost $400
06:23 PM JT-Cave: wow
06:23 PM roycroft: it's 20 mil vinyl
06:23 PM _unreal_: almost got my @#$%@#$@ acrylic cut
06:23 PM JT-Cave: with cross hatch pattern inside?
06:23 PM roycroft: no
06:23 PM _unreal_: damn I wish I had a ni LASER :(
06:23 PM roycroft: that netting i got separately
06:23 PM _unreal_: this shit keeps melting on me so easy
06:23 PM JT-Cave: ah ok
06:24 PM roycroft: i got a big roll of it, which is nice, because i've been able to cut some smaller pieces
06:24 PM roycroft: of course, i get a second bag that's half the size of that one it will only cost about 1/2 as much
06:25 PM JT-Cave: what are you making
06:25 PM roycroft: it's on my list to get, but i have a number of other things that would warrant spending $200+ on before another bag
06:25 PM roycroft: a new stand for my band saw
06:25 PM JT-Cave: cool
06:25 PM roycroft: you might recall a few months ago i was going to buy a new band saw
06:25 PM roycroft: i decided in the end not to do that
06:25 PM JT-Cave: yep
06:25 PM roycroft: but to build a new stand
06:25 PM roycroft: it will be 3" shorter than the old one, and the saw aill fit under my garage door
06:26 PM JT-Cave: nice
06:26 PM roycroft: plus, i'm upgrading the motor, and building storage inside the stand for some spare parts and for cutting bands
06:26 PM roycroft: this is part of my push to get everything i need for a machine to live with the machine
06:27 PM JT-Cave: well time for me to wander upstairs and turn off the chili con carne so it can cool down a bit
06:27 PM roycroft: i a tired of walking to the next room to get a bandsaw blad
06:27 PM roycroft: and having to go over to a tool box to get adjustment tools
06:27 PM roycroft: everything will live with the machine now
06:27 PM roycroft: when is your bench going to be done?
06:27 PM JT-Cave: I can relate to that, I spend a lot of time walking from the big shop to the machine shop
06:28 PM JT-Cave: I don't have any time tables any more... this is just a mobile bench with a rack for clamps and a place to sand objects
06:28 PM roycroft: so it will be done when it's done :)
06:28 PM JT-Cave: more of a learning tool
06:29 PM JT-Cave: yep
06:29 PM roycroft: i've not been in the shop all that much lately, because of the network move and because it's winter
06:29 PM JT-Cave: customers ask how long will it take.. till I'm done.
06:29 PM roycroft: but i need to get some projects done, so i'm starting to spend some time there, at least on the not so cold days
06:30 PM JT-Cave: time for me to wander upstairs
06:30 PM roycroft: it cost me about $700 last winter to heat the shop as much as i did
06:30 PM roycroft: i'm trying to not spend that money this year
06:30 PM roycroft: see you
06:32 PM _unreal_: well I have it cutting
06:32 PM _unreal_: :S god I hate acrylic
06:35 PM _unreal_: I found it
06:35 PM _unreal_: I found my SLOP
06:35 PM _unreal_: My Y nut is wearing out
06:36 PM _unreal_: wow that thing got a LOT of run time
06:36 PM _unreal_: and FUCK I dont want to deal with replaceing that one
06:36 PM _unreal_: that one will suck
06:43 PM XXCoder: roycroft: solar power heating?
06:43 PM XXCoder: or maybe youre lucky and live near a stream?
06:44 PM roycroft: our power is really cheap
06:44 PM XXCoder: and its still 700? dang
06:44 PM roycroft: but the garage shop is very expensive to heat
06:44 PM roycroft: it's not insulated, and not sealed up well at all
06:44 PM XXCoder: is it possible to isulate? even thin foam thin isulation would help
06:44 PM XXCoder: thin types is around 1 usd per sheet
06:45 PM roycroft: all the walls are covered with particle board
06:45 PM roycroft: it would be a tremendous undertaking to remove all that, install insulation, and reinstall it
06:45 PM roycroft: plus, there's no ceiling
06:46 PM roycroft: just rafters going up to the roof
06:46 PM roycroft: it's not worth it
06:47 PM XXCoder: sounds like could do some cheap upgrades
06:47 PM XXCoder: but guess not heh
06:47 PM roycroft: i was doing a lot of work out there last winter, including a lot of finishing
06:47 PM roycroft: i had it heated 24/7 for a good part of the winter
06:47 PM roycroft: this year i'm working in the shop on the warmish days, for the most part
06:48 PM roycroft: and i only use the heater if i really need to work there and it's really cold, or if i'm applying finish and need it to be room temperature
06:48 PM roycroft: 10 degrees is fine for me to work in, other than glue-ups take a lot longer
06:48 PM roycroft: and i can't apply finish at that temperature
06:49 PM roycroft: i placed an order with mcmaster today, too, that includes a bunch of parts for my cnc controller, so i'll be able to make more progress on that in a few days
10:28 PM Juzzy: roycroft: your breaker only pop when the tank is under pressure and your compressor kicks on?
10:33 PM Juzzy: is your unloader valve working properly? Do you hear the exhaust blow once you cut it off?
10:34 PM Juzzy: after 10-15 yrs, just replace all those. and your regulator, the manifold will be leaking by then, check with soapy water
10:46 PM roycroft: yes, and i have replaced the unloader multiple times
10:46 PM roycroft: and it does exhaust when the pump shuts off
10:50 PM skunkworks: not what I heard... I heard it doesn't exhaust...
10:50 PM roycroft: you would not have heard that from me
10:51 PM roycroft: and i am the only one here who could possibly know
11:59 PM Juzzy: roycroft: how far from the breaker is it?