#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 01 2021

01:31 AM Deejay: moin
01:37 AM Deejay: happy new year
02:30 AM XXCoder: happy new year pst
02:32 AM roycroft: happy new year to you
02:35 AM roycroft: it's past my bed time, but my cat is freaked out about all the fireworks going off so i have to stay up and hang out with her for a bit
02:36 AM * roycroft likes pretty overhead fireworks displays, but never understood firecrackers
02:38 AM XXCoder: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558398870388867073/794480881489543169/image0.png
05:04 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:04 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:38 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:38 AM XXCoder: hey
05:47 AM Tom_L: morning
05:48 AM XXCoder: hey
05:52 AM JT-Cave: https://gnipsel.com/images/wood-working/delta-planer/delta-rebuild-15.jpg
05:52 AM JT-Cave: https://gnipsel.com/images/wood-working/delta-planer/delta-rebuild-16.jpg
05:52 AM JT-Cave: https://gnipsel.com/images/wood-working/delta-planer/delta-rebuild-17.jpg
05:53 AM XXCoder: damn that looks good.
05:53 AM XXCoder: will last few years in least
05:53 AM JT-Cave: I hope so
06:10 AM Tom_L: looks ready to go
06:12 AM Tom_L: 29F Hi 39 & snow
06:13 AM Tom_L: 2-3" so far
06:13 AM XXCoder: raining here. it rains when its not raining here.
06:13 AM JT-Cave: ran a bit of hickory through last night and it's sweet and much quieter than before
06:13 AM JT-Cave: rain here too
06:14 AM XXCoder: send em here if you dont like rain. its not like we would notice rain in rain
06:15 AM Tom_L: Boeing is starting to hand over new 737 max to airlines
06:15 AM XXCoder: yeah thats why i hope i will be rehired soon
06:16 AM Tom_L: 15 so far
06:16 AM Tom_L: 8 to American
06:16 AM Tom_L: 7
06:17 AM Tom_L: United 5 & SW 3
06:20 AM Tom_L: hope it keeps up, we build the tubes here
06:22 AM XXCoder: cool :)
06:23 AM Tom_L: https://www.kake.com/story/43116978/boeing-737-max-news-thats-even-more-important-to-wichita-than-the-ungrounding
06:39 AM _unreal_: hum
06:39 AM _unreal_: clear blue skys and about 77f out side
06:40 AM _unreal_: and how do I know... ARG.... Ijust got called to go grab my elderly neighbors mail and package
07:26 AM net|: https://i.imgur.com/RspkQ0V.png 3d version of my costco computer desk from 20 years ago probably, might do maslow cnc on it
10:15 AM _unreal_: so I just replaced my 74hc14 chip on my hobbycnc. no joy 4th axis still DOA.
10:15 AM _unreal_: so ether its burnt trace(s) bad solder joint or the inputs on that motor controller chip are burnt out
10:16 AM _unreal_: and I REALLLLLLY DONT WANT TO pull everything out
10:19 AM Tom_L: still snowing
10:22 AM Tom_L: 5" so far
10:43 AM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20201209_212336.jpg
10:43 AM skunkworks: still working so far
10:43 AM Tom_L: the patch worked ehh
10:44 AM skunkworks: so far..
10:44 AM Tom_L: new year came in with a bang. it's been snowing since last year :)
10:45 AM skunkworks: https://studio.youtube.com/video/bYBVQHU36F8/edit
10:45 AM skunkworks: heh
10:45 AM Tom_L: want's a sign in
10:45 AM skunkworks: https://youtu.be/bYBVQHU36F8
10:45 AM skunkworks: coppied the wrong link
10:45 AM Tom_L: yeah
10:45 AM skunkworks: poor thing..
10:47 AM Tom_L: how's the collet holder work?
10:48 AM skunkworks: actually have not tried it yet.. But it is mounted currently
10:48 AM skunkworks: was playing with an hb04 jog pendant. Was going to make one - but remembered I had one..
10:49 AM skunkworks: it is ok.. The poll rate seems to be 100ms - which kinda sucks. But for setting up parts - it should be fine.
10:49 AM Tom_L: is that one usb?
10:49 AM skunkworks: wireless usb
10:49 AM Tom_L: ahh
10:49 AM skunkworks: it is kinda cool - for what it is.
10:50 AM Tom_L: lcvette put a wireless one on his big mill
10:50 AM Tom_L: dunno what kind
10:50 AM skunkworks: If you are joging long distances (high step amount) it kinda worbles..
10:51 AM Tom_L: does it lose steps?
10:51 AM skunkworks: I think if you move the encoder too fast - it doesn't keep up.
10:51 AM skunkworks: if you mean steppers - no
10:52 AM Tom_L: no mpg steps
10:52 AM skunkworks: yes - but only if you move it too fast.
10:52 AM Tom_L: yeah my hardwired one did too until i added that comp to it... foget what it's called now
10:52 AM skunkworks: it certainly doesn't feel as good as a physical encoder hooked through linuxcnc. but it will do
10:53 AM skunkworks: ilowpass?
10:53 AM Tom_L: yeah that's it
10:53 AM Tom_L: so if i'm bringing Z down i gotta be careful not to spin it too fast
10:53 AM skunkworks: yah - you only have access to the counts - and when the counts only come once ever 100ms - you get what you get. You can add a low pass but then it also increases the settling time.
10:54 AM Tom_L: the rest have soft stops
10:54 AM skunkworks: right
10:54 AM skunkworks: make sure your axis jogs are set to velocity true...
10:54 AM skunkworks: also
10:54 AM Tom_L: where do you do that?
10:55 AM skunkworks: axis.x or maybe joint.0 - I don't remember
10:55 AM skunkworks: makes it so - it doesn't try to move for every step you turn it.. just until you stop.
10:56 AM skunkworks: (incase it gets ahead)
10:56 AM Tom_L: looking in the ini docs to find it
10:57 AM skunkworks: joint.N.jog−vel−mode IN BIT
10:57 AM skunkworks: When FALSE (the default), the jogwheel operates in position mode. The joint will move exactly jog−scale units for each count, regardless of how long that might take. When TRUE, the wheel operates in velocity mode - motion stops when the wheel stops, even if that means the commanded motion is not completed.
10:57 AM Tom_L: i see min / max velocity...
10:58 AM Tom_L: err max velocity and acceleration
10:59 AM Tom_L: oh, not in the ini but hal
11:00 AM _unreal_: dog doing a cartwheel THATS funny
11:00 AM _unreal_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC_2m2TJUmg
11:01 AM Tom_L: skunkworks, would that be just for the mpg input?
11:02 AM skunkworks: Tom_L: yes
11:02 AM Tom_L: i'm using -scale & -counts but i don't see -vel-mode in my hal
11:03 AM Tom_L: must not be using it
11:03 AM skunkworks: it defaults to false.. so if it isn't there it is in position mode
11:03 AM Tom_L: i would think position would be more accurate?
11:04 AM Tom_L: i may have tried that or something similar early on when i was setting up the pendant
11:05 AM Tom_L: where did you find that?
11:05 AM Tom_L: looking..
11:15 AM Tom_L: found it
12:06 PM _unreal_: figures I have some BRAND NEW ea7-t6cl+12y14b128 head units
12:07 PM _unreal_: I found this https://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Alchemy
12:07 PM _unreal_: this is the main CPU netlogic au1100
12:07 PM _unreal_: one of them is perfect. the other the touch display is shattered :(
12:07 PM _unreal_: both BRAND spanking new. one of my dumpster finds some time back
12:08 PM _unreal_: could make for an amazing CNC interface
12:08 PM _unreal_: they are 100% programmable with the software from "automationdirect"
12:08 PM _unreal_: automationdirect.com
12:09 PM andypugh: It turns out that my bargain FHA harmonic actuator is less of a bargain that I had hoped. The flex-spline is broken….
12:09 PM _unreal_: nothing worse then winning
12:10 PM _unreal_: andypugh, ever seen one of these HEAD units?
12:11 PM _unreal_: https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/retired_products/hmi_(human_machine_interface)/ea7-t6cl
12:12 PM andypugh: I might have seen them used for the fire extinguisher control system in our lab.
12:12 PM andypugh: Rather low reolutin?
12:13 PM _unreal_: 320x240
12:14 PM _unreal_: would be really cool if there was a linux build for it
12:16 PM _unreal_: interesting features as well. mic in, line audio out. usb port, ethernet, plc-gpio header
12:18 PM Loetmichel: MAAN, my uncle just called to whish me and my wife a happy new year... and told a bit about the extended family... my grandma died 1.5 years ago and we haven an ongoing dispute about the inheritance... MAN some people are dense. One uncle in law is greedy enough to only communicate via lawyer with the rest of the family. WHY? I ts not like its big money, just a few 10k eur? Why is someone
12:18 PM Loetmichel: destroying all bridges over such a petty sum?
12:18 PM _unreal_: LOL Loetmichel I got stuck for 2 seconds on the first 6 words. for some reason I read unicycle
12:18 PM _unreal_: I kept re-reading it going WTF?
12:19 PM Loetmichel: hehe
12:19 PM _unreal_: mine
12:34 PM roycroft: times are tough for a lot of folks, loetmichel
12:44 PM Loetmichel: roycroft: that guy isnt in a monetary tight spot (to my knowledge). he's just greedy beyond measure
12:45 PM Loetmichel: also the same tactic already backfired TWICE with some other patches of land that we inherited.
12:46 PM Loetmichel: the buyers said after her tried haggling for way to long "ok then, enough of that. now i pay you 2 eur less per square meter, take it or leave it"
12:46 PM Loetmichel: and the other patch just sold way below what he was expecting because of his haggling, too.
12:49 PM Tom_L: andypugh, what are the chances of ordering that single part?
12:57 PM andypugh: Tom_L: Pretty slim I think, as far as I can tell the actuator components are unique to the actuators.
12:58 PM Tom_L: mmm
12:59 PM andypugh: I think that the flex-spline split axially, between some teeth, and that has locked the whole HD solid.
01:01 PM andypugh: They seem to be designed to be assembled, but not dismantled. For example I think that the outer ring gear is a tight press-fit in to a blind hole.
01:09 PM roycroft: i won't claim this as anything good, but perhaps making lemonade out of lemons
01:10 PM roycroft: since i could not have guests over last night for nye, and since i'm not a lush, i had almost a whole bottle of champagne remaining this morning
01:10 PM roycroft: i am enjoying a nice mimosa, a beverage which i've always enjoyed, but never make
01:10 PM roycroft: i can't let that champagne go to waste
01:12 PM roycroft: i also slept in until 7 this morning, and am having brunch today instead of breakfast
02:02 PM gregcnc: andypugh have you taken it apart? it seem most flexspline have a flange that is clamped
02:36 PM andypugh: gregcnc: I don’t fully understand how this one it put together.
02:38 PM Tom_L: conversational paper weight
02:47 PM andypugh: gregcnc: https://photos.app.goo.gl/MbTdhvKwy79373GHA
02:49 PM andypugh: The hex _might_ be holding the flexspline in, or it coule be part of the flexspline. And, it could be threaded, or just a press fit. And if it threaded, who knows which hand?
02:50 PM andypugh: The wave generator looks good, but the internal gear on the outside looks to be a press-fit.
02:50 PM andypugh: Possibly I just need a 20-50 flexspline.
03:51 PM _unreal_: sigh.. I've been pulling shit apart today
03:51 PM _unreal_: old marine hardware that is NFG or WORKING but to old to sell
03:51 PM _unreal_: well
03:52 PM _unreal_: one of the shell's I just gutted is/would be a perfect motor controller shell
03:52 PM _unreal_: its already killing me just looking at it
03:52 PM _unreal_: perfect in every way
03:52 PM _unreal_: few slight mods shell wise but nothing major
03:52 PM _unreal_: OMG....
04:09 PM _unreal_: no one around?
04:29 PM andypugh: Well, some of us are.
04:30 PM andypugh: But was zoning out to YouTube
04:52 PM Tom_L: andypugh, what had you planned for the HD?
04:54 PM andypugh: Not sure now. I was hoping to firstly use it to do some work on Hiperface for the stmbl, and then potentially use it for a 5th (maybe 6th) axis on the mill. But the second half is now looking unlikely. It’s still potetially a very nice through-bore servo.
04:56 PM _unreal_: I'm just enjoying pathetic amounts of alcohal
04:56 PM _unreal_: :(
04:58 PM andypugh: Pathetic as in “really need to learn how to drink _properly_?
05:00 PM XXCoder: happy new year
05:03 PM Tom_L: happy it quit snowing..
05:04 PM unterhaus: I don't think any of the gearboxes I took off my robot will support a through bore
05:05 PM unterhaus: that would be nice though
05:06 PM unterhaus: I had never seen a harmonic drive before that
05:22 PM perry_j1987: hi guys
05:22 PM perry_j1987: whew what a trip
05:22 PM perry_j1987: just got back home finally
05:22 PM perry_j1987: bought a new lathe
05:23 PM XXCoder: nice
05:23 PM XXCoder: first machine in a year eh
05:29 PM _unreal_: andypugh, you could be right
05:29 PM _unreal_: one never knows
05:29 PM _unreal_: here we go
05:29 PM _unreal_: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717411349541683212/794693110902816788/16095399553269115600315689432128.jpg
05:30 PM _unreal_: I took a photo few hours ago
05:30 PM _unreal_: to a new year and endless summer :)
05:30 PM _unreal_: got to love FLORDIA
05:34 PM perry_j1987: heh
05:35 PM perry_j1987: i got the same lathe centroid uses in their acorn cnc videos
05:52 PM perry_j1987: it is time now to choose some servo drivers for it and controller
07:24 PM gregcnc: Perry did you buy it recently? I think i saw one on craiglist up your way?
07:24 PM gregcnc: perrry_j1987
07:26 PM perry_j1987: i got it yesterday
07:27 PM perry_j1987: then had wheel bearing unscheduled dissassembly that i had to deal with today lol
07:27 PM gregcnc: doh trailer?
07:27 PM perry_j1987: quite the start for 2021
07:27 PM perry_j1987: nope front driverside of my truck
07:27 PM gregcnc: dang
07:28 PM perry_j1987: risked it and limped it the last half hour of driving to my shop haha banking on good luck
07:28 PM perry_j1987: put new bearing in it and its good to go
07:29 PM perry_j1987: http://support.technocnc.com/pdf/0229_LC_and_Lathe_Board-Callouts-Connectors.pdf so this is in the lathe now stock
07:30 PM perry_j1987: scsi connection to a pci card in the computer (i dont have that card)
07:31 PM perry_j1987: its a toroid power supply, servo drivers and encoders board im wondering if i could interface with this with some BOBs or something
07:35 PM gregcnc: I think you'll end up replacing that board with mesa
07:35 PM perry_j1987: im not opposed to that idea
07:36 PM perry_j1987: whats your reasoning?
07:37 PM gregcnc: do you know what signals this board is looking for, how does it communicate?
07:38 PM perry_j1987: i see your point lol
07:40 PM gregcnc: it essentially does the same job a mesa does
07:40 PM gregcnc: motion control, I/O
07:40 PM perry_j1987: so gut it and the toroid and start from scratch
07:40 PM gregcnc: keep everything but this board
07:41 PM gregcnc: I would guess there are a few of these with retrofits
07:41 PM perry_j1987: only ones i've dug up are converted to acorn
07:41 PM perry_j1987: company said they only made 100 of them and most are still in tech schools as far as they know
07:45 PM gregcnc: i would guess few are still in schools at this point, i've probably seen a dozen listed over the years
07:45 PM perry_j1987: im planning to move the electrical cabinet to the tailstock side
07:46 PM perry_j1987: so i can pass barstock through spindle
07:48 PM gregcnc: start by figuring out what it has for servo and spindle drives. Looks like analog input stuff with encoders so should be easy to reuse
07:49 PM perry_j1987: MCG 2234 - M4130 servos
07:51 PM perry_j1987: https://www.armorcnc.com/replacement-motors?pgid=jzsfwooe-570a9c89-2316-4274-a70f-5afd4aa50ac6
07:51 PM gregcnc: talking to the drives is what you need to figure out, why people gut servo/encoder machiens to put in spetters i have no idea
07:51 PM gregcnc: pfft steppers even
07:52 PM perry_j1987: aye i'd like to stick with servos on this thing
07:52 PM perry_j1987: always had steppers so curious to experience servos heh
07:52 PM gregcnc: there is no needs to change anything except the motion controller
07:53 PM gregcnc: what did armorcnc want for a new control PC?
07:54 PM perry_j1987: no clue
07:55 PM gregcnc: https://www.armorcnc.com/pciupgrade
07:56 PM gregcnc: maybe a problem if you don't have software
07:57 PM perry_j1987: i want to use linuxcnc for sure
07:57 PM gregcnc: your document gives pinouts for the connectors which is great
08:00 PM gregcnc: some manuals for the drives and you're well on your way
08:01 PM gregcnc: If it doesn't have drives, you have some homework
08:02 PM perry_j1987: the drives are on that board
08:02 PM perry_j1987: all in one board
08:03 PM gregcnc: oops
08:03 PM gregcnc: you needs some servo drives
08:05 PM perry_j1987: aye
08:06 PM gregcnc: I have a mill with Gecko 320X on parport https://www.geckodrive.com/g320x-digital-servo-drive.html
08:07 PM gregcnc: I put some cheap AMC drives in the lathe project
08:07 PM perry_j1987: i was reading that those g320x dont work with this style encoders
08:09 PM perry_j1987: guy said they're standard line driver, quadrature output a, b, z. They are 4000 counts per Rev. 5 volts input.
08:12 PM gregcnc: the spec sheet seems to show differential output, but I guess you might check what's actually connected
08:13 PM gregcnc: US Digital encoders aren't very expensive
08:15 PM perry_j1987: thats the one driver that i've seen pop up in forums with others trying to convert these things and they said the encoders wont work with them
08:16 PM _unreal_: think it would help me any if I open the STL file instead of the DXF file
08:34 PM Tom_L: if you like looking at triangles
08:37 PM _unreal_: heh I need the 3d
08:37 PM _unreal_: just finished merging all the @!#$@#$ triangles
08:37 PM _unreal_: now I have my finished surface back again
08:37 PM _unreal_: trying to make a working tool path
08:37 PM _unreal_: fusion refuses to make a working tool path with it on its side its @#$@#$ wierd
08:38 PM _unreal_: I just tried doing the same tool path with the part roted 90 degrees UP and now the same tool is letting me make a proper tool path.
08:38 PM _unreal_: PISSING ME OFF
08:38 PM Tom_L: trick: take the dxf into solidworks and give it a tiny bit of Z and you'll have a 3d model
08:39 PM Tom_L: or your other favorite cad
08:39 PM Tom_L: i hate looking at stl files
08:43 PM _unreal_: fusion I can convert to a brab easy
08:43 PM _unreal_: convert mesh to brab
08:44 PM perry_j1987: sometimes its easier to recad than deal with converted stl to solid
08:47 PM _unreal_: god its just mind blowing
08:47 PM _unreal_: exact same settings EVERYTHING is the same.
08:47 PM _unreal_: but I get a totally different tool path
08:48 PM _unreal_: if I rotate the part
08:48 PM _unreal_: like WILD different tool path
08:49 PM _unreal_: I just dont understand. its nice to have many underlaying features. BUT fusion is not capable of some of the most basic simple CAM features that most off the shelf and FREE cam softwares can do EASY
08:49 PM _unreal_: its mind blowing
08:54 PM _unreal_: well I guess I have a working tool path but @!#%!@#%$ me. now I have to re-jig everything. what a pain in the ass
09:15 PM perry_j1987: hmm maybe i'll just throw one of my BoBs and couple nema23s at this thing to get it moving for tests
09:17 PM _unreal_: ?
09:17 PM _unreal_: what cha moving?
09:19 PM perry_j1987: a new 9x20 lathe i just picked up
09:19 PM perry_j1987: its already cnc with servos/ballscrews etc
09:20 PM perry_j1987: http://support.technocnc.com/pdf/0229_LC_and_Lathe_Board-Callouts-Connectors.pdf
09:24 PM _unreal_: so whers my christmas giftr?
09:26 PM _unreal_: I'm guessing thats an old control board
09:26 PM _unreal_: is it still working? or are you changing the control board up?
09:28 PM _unreal_: ?
09:30 PM perry_j1987: ya i gotta change it
10:07 PM perry_j1987: any mesa experts on?
10:14 PM unterhaus: expert about what?
10:17 PM unterhaus: best to ask the question you want and then Tom_L will answer
10:21 PM perry_j1987: lol
10:22 PM perry_j1987: looking at options for this conversion
10:22 PM unterhaus: you don't have drives yet?
10:22 PM perry_j1987: https://www.cnczone.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=299470&d=1448923108
10:23 PM perry_j1987: it is a 9x20 techno isel lathe
10:23 PM perry_j1987: all set with servos i just need new way to control them
10:23 PM unterhaus: so dc servos
10:23 PM perry_j1987: aye
10:24 PM perry_j1987: http://www.techno-isel.com/Education1/Ed_MetalLathe.htm
10:24 PM perry_j1987: http://support.technocnc.com/pdf/0229_LC_and_Lathe_Board-Callouts-Connectors.pdf
10:24 PM perry_j1987: this is the board that is in there now some all in one board
10:25 PM unterhaus: the only solution I know off the top of my head is 7i93/7i48, $200 total
10:25 PM unterhaus: assuming you get analog servo drives like an amc
10:25 PM Tom_L: what type of pc interface do you want to use?
10:26 PM Tom_L: or rpi4
10:26 PM perry_j1987: im up for anything
10:26 PM Tom_L: talk to JT-Cave or pcw when they get up
10:27 PM Tom_L: pcw hasn't been here as much lately
10:27 PM unterhaus: I think you have to figure out what drives you are going to get
10:27 PM unterhaus: or if you will replace the motors too
10:28 PM unterhaus: there are still AMC drives that will work with brushed motors
10:28 PM unterhaus: haven't checked ebay to see what they cost though
10:32 PM perry_j1987: what type
10:32 PM unterhaus: perry_j1987 does the lathe work now?
10:32 PM perry_j1987: it doesnt have the original computer/software/pci card to test with
10:32 PM unterhaus: I note they don't say anything about JP2
10:33 PM unterhaus: does it have the control board?
10:33 PM perry_j1987: there's some pci card that this board connected to originally
10:33 PM perry_j1987: i dont have it
10:34 PM _unreal_: perry_j1987, what do you need to do with a mesa?
10:34 PM perry_j1987: im looking for paths forward to getting this new to me lathe working
10:35 PM unterhaus: I almost thought the control board was not smart but there is a clock oscillator on it
10:35 PM _unreal_: what kind of motors are on the machine right now/
10:35 PM _unreal_: ?
10:35 PM unterhaus: he already posted all that, stay in the game
10:35 PM _unreal_: I.. sir have been indisposed ;)
10:36 PM perry_j1987: _unreal_ its the same lathe in the centroid acorn vids
10:36 PM perry_j1987: they swapped for clearpath servos on theirs
10:37 PM _unreal_: ok so DC brushed servo motors
10:37 PM _unreal_: you have a few options...
10:37 PM _unreal_: A
10:38 PM _unreal_: you likely need a new servo driver for the motors IF your going to keep the current one's
10:38 PM _unreal_: personally if they are in good condition. it may be cheaper to keep the current motors and just address the driver
10:38 PM perry_j1987: the encoders i dug up 4000 counts per Rev. 5 volts input
10:38 PM _unreal_: so standard quadrature encoder
10:39 PM _unreal_: thats more resolution then most stepper motors.
10:40 PM _unreal_: have you looked at the BOB drives I believe they are called? andypugh's design I believe?
10:40 PM perry_j1987: havnt heard of it
10:40 PM _unreal_: is $ an issue? if not just buy some gecko servo driers
10:41 PM perry_j1987: someone doing this conversion said the g320x wouldnt work with these encoders
10:41 PM _unreal_: You could build ve7it's drivers
10:41 PM _unreal_: https://pic-microcontroller.com/dspic-servo-project-using-pic30f4012-microcontroller/
10:42 PM _unreal_: perry_j1987, those are standards quadrature encoders on thos motors
10:42 PM _unreal_: who ever told you that is full of shit
10:42 PM _unreal_: https://www.geckodrive.com/support/g320x-rev-10.html
10:46 PM _unreal_: I dont know what exact motors you have, I've yet to find an exact manual for your servos. but the average specs I see is 50 oz/in 2amp 60v rating
10:47 PM _unreal_: ?
10:47 PM _unreal_: ya I would suggest just getting the geckos
10:48 PM perry_j1987: gecko vs leadshine?
10:48 PM perry_j1987: i seen this name dropped Leadshine DCS810
10:50 PM _unreal_: motor controller is a motor controller, I dont have any of those.
10:51 PM _unreal_: being a brushed servo your biggest issue is ensuring you have a controller that can do auto PID tuning
10:51 PM _unreal_: that will save you a lot of brain pain
10:51 PM perry_j1987: what are examples of those
10:51 PM _unreal_: ?
10:51 PM _unreal_: just have to look for auto tuning servo
10:53 PM _unreal_: ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k3cR2d8dsM
10:53 PM _unreal_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k3cR2d8dsM
10:59 PM _unreal_: perry_j1987, ?
10:59 PM perry_j1987: watching it
10:59 PM _unreal_: I my self built ve7it 's drivers. I have yet to use them. but I will get back to them sooner or later
11:01 PM perry_j1987: any reason you built em
11:05 PM _unreal_: a fuck ton cheaper
11:05 PM _unreal_: lack of money
11:05 PM _unreal_: this has been a VERY bad $ year for me and it had nothing to do with the fake pandemic
11:06 PM _unreal_: family, coworkers, and xwife fucked me out of about 18k in total this year
11:06 PM _unreal_: mind blowing
11:06 PM _unreal_: I LITTERALY just $$ recovered two weeks ago $ wise
11:07 PM _unreal_: I mist sooo many stock plays and other things its just sickening
11:08 PM perry_j1987: sounds like a fun year
11:08 PM perry_j1987: i started of 2021 with an outer wheel bearing that decided an unscheduled disassembly this morning
11:09 PM _unreal_: heh
11:09 PM _unreal_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Komcmg7bpak
11:09 PM _unreal_: I gave ve7it 3 of those BLDC motors and that driver in his video
11:13 PM _unreal_: perry_j1987, http://ve7it.cowlug.org/dspic-servo.html
11:13 PM _unreal_: that is his servo
11:13 PM perry_j1987: site down
11:13 PM _unreal_: ya I was just noticing that
11:13 PM _unreal_: https://web.archive.org/web/20180828044847/http://ve7it.cowlug.org/dspic-servo.html
11:14 PM _unreal_: going to have to ask him WTF
11:16 PM _unreal_: the - dspic-servo-2bd.ngc dspic-servo-2bot.ngc those files on his site are NC gcode files to mill and drill the PCB's
11:16 PM _unreal_: all you have to do is solder the parts
11:16 PM _unreal_: but I'd talk to him about if that driver is in the range that your motors operate at
11:17 PM _unreal_: ve7it, your website is down???
11:24 PM perry_j1987: maybe i'll just throw my nema 23s on here to get it moving
11:26 PM perry_j1987: i need to crash
11:26 PM perry_j1987: ill be back around tomorrow
11:26 PM perry_j1987: g'night
11:28 PM _unreal_: get it going sure, but you'll want the servos
11:28 PM _unreal_: smoother
11:36 PM ve7it: _unreal_, my web site is down :{ the place I was hosting it is out of business... need to find a new host
11:41 PM XXCoder: ve7it: no warning?
11:44 PM _unreal_: I'm waiting to see you do something with those BLDC's I sent ya :)
11:44 PM ve7it: not really... we were getting internet from the local community center and the city decided they were canceling the lease.... so the management bailed. There is a day care center moving in in a couple of months... not sure if they will be so accomodating
11:44 PM _unreal_: there are a number of free web hosting places
11:45 PM _unreal_: hell even google has a web hosting
11:45 PM XXCoder: hmm ok
11:46 PM ve7it: yah... I havent looked around... my isp used to offer hosting and when they killed it, I self hosted on the community center with several other services
11:47 PM ve7it: If I upgrade my home network package, I could probably host it here.... but currently I have very low network speeds
11:49 PM _unreal_: ve7it, https://sites.google.com/new
11:49 PM _unreal_: I could be wrong but I dont think your site gets hammered :)
11:53 PM ve7it: no.. its mostly for my reference
11:53 PM ve7it: did you get you laser burner yet?