#linuxcnc Logs

Nov 21 2020

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:43 AM Deejay: moin
03:08 AM rtce9a85: hi
03:09 AM rtce9a85: im having problem with my par port on pc, theres no divice listed
03:09 AM XXCoder: linux?
03:11 AM XXCoder: anyway do a lspci -v in shell and see what it says for parallel ports and numbers
03:24 AM rtce9a85: XXCoder: yes im using linux cnc
03:25 AM XXCoder: yeah i assumed so but once a while mach 3 user comes in here and asks :)
03:25 AM rtce9a85: lol
03:25 AM rtce9a85: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32518666501.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dWkk2We
03:25 AM rtce9a85: that my card
03:26 AM XXCoder: ya did you try lspci -v?
03:26 AM XXCoder: it would spam quite a lot but should include parallel port info as well as port numbers
03:27 AM XXCoder: also, if motherboard has inbuilt, you might have to disable it so card works
03:47 AM unreal is now known as Guest98118
04:01 AM Tom_L: morning
04:02 AM XXCoder: lo
04:45 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:46 AM XXCoder: yo
06:13 AM JT-Cave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ta4fSpC8Y
06:13 AM JT-Cave: gotta make one of those tools
07:22 AM JT-Cave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSkcFFvvMNI
07:59 AM skunkworks: ronnie sullivan is plsying ali carter in the snooker semifinals... should be fun :)
07:59 AM skunkworks: ronnie sullivan is plsying ali carter in the snooker semifinals... should be fun :)
07:59 AM skunkworks: oops
08:22 AM jymmmm: morning
08:30 AM jymmmm: XXCoder: Yep, easily tips side to side
10:38 AM Tom_L: hey Mr jymmmm
10:39 AM Tom_L: wire up yer batteries yet?
10:40 AM jymmmm: Tom_L: Eh sorta.... I was getting ready to top-balance the cells, then my power module blew, so waiting for the replacment to arrive before I can do anything else
10:45 AM Tom_L: what made it blue?
10:57 AM pcw_home: The sky is blue, the winds blue too
10:59 AM CaptHindsight: French translator on the developers ml "I'm wishing yall a very nice we"
11:18 AM jymmmm: Tom_L: It was rated in "china amps", not real amps.
11:20 AM jymmmm: Tom_L: BUT... I just remembered that I have some high current diodes (I'll have to check exactly what they are), but 5v -0.7-0.7= 3.60v and I need 3.65V so might be "good enough" for now at least.
11:21 AM jymmmm: 5.05V - 1.4 = 3.65v woohoo
11:26 AM Tom_L: diodes or bridge?
11:26 AM Tom_L: i got some 25? A bridges
11:43 AM jymmmm: Tom_L: These are 40A diodes I think, maybe 20A. Thogh I think I might have a 400A bridge around here too
12:16 PM Tom_L: 47F and rain
01:07 PM JT-Shop: what a PIA having to use G33.1 for a part with a bunch of holes...
01:09 PM miss0r2: Are any of you guys familiar with ruby? (The programming language)
01:09 PM * miss0r2 is about to throw himself infront of a train
01:10 PM JT-Shop: only ruby I know has 4 legs and drags her stomach on the carpet
01:10 PM miss0r2: yeah... that sounds kinda what this script here is doing. only it should be making backups
01:19 PM miss0r2: what is this character called '
01:21 PM rs[m]: single quote
01:21 PM rs[m]: or just quote
01:21 PM miss0r2: Thanks
01:21 PM miss0r2: I thought this was the only character called quote "
01:22 PM miss0r2: but it is all good knowing what it is called in Danish, when I want some google advide on stuff... :|
01:22 PM rs[m]: you could also call it apostroph
01:22 PM miss0r2: That seems to work better for my google search, thanks again ;)
01:22 PM rs[m]: or tick
01:23 PM miss0r2: ī` <- those are forward and backward tick if I'm not mistaken
01:24 PM miss0r2: I AM A GENIOUS!..
01:25 PM miss0r2: well hardly :) I just spend the last three hours learning ruby so I could finaly troubleshoote this nice little script I found for KVM backup'ing
01:25 PM miss0r2: now it works
01:27 PM miss0r2: sadly it is not a 'pro' bug fix.
01:28 PM miss0r2: for some reason or another a readline command ends up containing something it is not supposed to, and the parser gets confused.
01:29 PM miss0r2: I just used a string modifyer to remove the same nonsense that always ended up at the end of the string. If I had been pro I would've figured out how it got there in the first place.
01:52 PM jymmmm: miss0r2 I'm speculating here, but in php at least, maybe ruby and other languages too, a single quote (') is usually NOT interpreted, meaning that any $variable within single quotes is literal text 'Any $variable in single quotes are not processed' , where as "Hello $first-name" is "Hello Bob"
02:01 PM unterhaus: I found a part that I think it so my lathe if it's what I think it is, I have no idea how my lathe is currently working
02:01 PM unterhaus: there was some hackery involved with the previous owner, but at least I got a box with parts
02:04 PM unterhaus: anyone have a light on their lathe carriage? There is a block mounted on my carriage that isn't in the manual
02:07 PM JT-Shop: I have a light on mine... I got it at IKEA
02:14 PM rs[m]: those ikea LED lights with the flexible neck are not available any more i think
02:14 PM unterhaus: looking at the parts manual always fills me with dread
02:14 PM miss0r2: jymmmm: Yeah, something like that. I made it work atleast. But it is not clean nor is it beautiful
02:15 PM jymmmm: miss0r2: doens't have to be =)
02:15 PM miss0r2: jymmmm: It just pains me not to be able to understand what is a miss
02:15 PM unterhaus: I have a really nice light I got from a friend. He likes to throw things away
02:15 PM miss0r2: jymmmm: Line 98 was the culprit https://github.com/eslam-gomaa/virt-backup/blob/master/functions.rb
02:16 PM miss0r2: well.. it was the line I made changes to, to get a proper result anyway :D
02:16 PM miss0r2: it is parsing this line: "<source file='/var/lib/libvirt/images/win2k19.qcow2'/>" without the ""
02:17 PM jymmmm: miss0r I believe that is removing whitespace from the path
02:17 PM miss0r2: and it output "'/var/lib/libvirt/images/win2k19.qcow2 index'=1" without the ""
02:17 PM miss0r2: which made me mentally unstable :)
02:18 PM jymmmm: cause it says "strip"
02:18 PM miss0r2: I have not been able to figure out what strip does
02:18 PM jymmmm: and grep
02:19 PM jymmmm: miss0r2 https://apidock.com/ruby/String/strip
02:20 PM jymmmm: Returns a copy of str with leading and trailing whitespace removed.
02:20 PM miss0r2: the way I see it File.readlines(xml.path).grep(/source file=/)collect is it searches the file for a line called /source file=/ and graps the whole line and stores it in the string. then the disk.strip.gsub shaves it down to what is usable
02:20 PM miss0r2: indeed
02:21 PM miss0r2: the issue I realy had was that I was unable to figure out why this programline was somehow able to grap index=1 from another line in the xml file. I see no reason it should do that
02:21 PM miss0r2: (from what little I understand from the code anyway)
02:21 PM JT-Shop: miss0r2, what in the wide wide world of sports are you doing?
02:21 PM jymmmm: JT He's doing ruby (language)
02:21 PM miss0r2: jymmmm: Hardly :D
02:22 PM miss0r2: JT-Shop: I've written a script that utilizes another script that was broken
02:22 PM JT-Shop: yea I know that but why ruby?
02:22 PM rs[m]: ikea jansjö
02:22 PM miss0r2: "the other script" was ruby - not my choice
02:22 PM miss0r2: I have little to no idea about ruby
02:23 PM miss0r2: Unless something is vastly complicated, I just use bash scripts
02:23 PM miss0r2: jymmmm: DO you have any suggestions as to why it would include index=1 in the script?
02:25 PM unterhaus: ruby was extremely popular for what seemed like a very short period of time
02:26 PM jymmmm: miss0r2: I see a grep in there too, so not sure what it's doing, but what you could do is echo out the value and halt the program at that point to see what's going on
02:26 PM miss0r2: I did that, which is why I know that that program line is containing index=1 at the end.
02:26 PM miss0r2: I just did a STDERR.puts $string
02:27 PM tubes4branes: hi
02:37 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, what you got against G33.1?
02:41 PM JT-Shop: OneCNC don't know how to generate it
02:42 PM JT-Shop: so I have to use G84 then cut and paste a zillion times lol
02:42 PM JT-Shop: I have no idea why we don't have G84???
02:43 PM Tom_L: what is it?
02:43 PM Tom_L: i got my cam to output G33.1
02:44 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, you grab that file?
02:44 PM JT-Shop: OneCNC will output G33.1 but you have to do it for each hole and can't use a group
02:45 PM Tom_L: mmm
02:45 PM JT-Shop: yes, thanks gotta put a power supply in my server and install it there
02:45 PM Tom_L: i _could_ spit you out a grid pattern of G33.1....
02:46 PM Tom_L: or maybe it's not a grid..
02:48 PM Tom_L: i don't know that i've heard of onecnc
02:50 PM Tom_L: looks decent.. what about cost?
02:51 PM JT-Shop: it was not too bad a little clunky to use but for the most part works
02:51 PM Tom_L: which one did you get?
02:51 PM Tom_L: 3d?
02:51 PM Tom_L: 2.5
02:52 PM Tom_L: looks like it's got 5-6 levels
02:52 PM JT-Shop: xr4 mill 3d professional
02:52 PM JT-Shop: I only got it because you can import a SW file
02:53 PM Tom_L: i think it would be fun to get into 5 axis but i'm not about to plop down that cash
02:53 PM Tom_L: nice
02:55 PM Tom_L: is the 4th axis rotary or indexer?
02:56 PM Tom_L: err maybe that module is separate
02:57 PM JT-Shop: I don't have a 4th axis
02:58 PM Tom_L: i thought about putting a stepper on my rotary head but my software wouldn't support it anyway
02:58 PM Tom_L: at best it would be an indexer
02:59 PM Tom_L: did you have any trouble setting up a cam for it?
02:59 PM JT-Shop: I have a rotary but never did finish the conversion from manual
02:59 PM Tom_L: yeah for what i do around here i can hand crank it
02:59 PM JT-Shop: not too bad I have an emc post and a discovery post
03:00 PM Tom_L: do they let you build your own and save them?
03:02 PM JT-Shop: yea
03:03 PM JT-Shop: I just took a fanuc and modified it for emc
03:03 PM Tom_L: yeah i forget which one i started with
03:03 PM Tom_L: one we had already
03:05 PM Tom_L: it didn't support rigid tapping?
03:07 PM JT-Shop: it?
03:07 PM Tom_L: onecnc
03:07 PM Tom_L: post
03:08 PM JT-Shop: yes it does but G84 is the standard for rigid tapping not G33.1
03:08 PM Tom_L: yeah i may have changed mine from that for the lcnc post
03:08 PM JT-Shop: and that's how I cobbled together the g code using G84 then insterting G33.1 a zillion times lol
03:09 PM JT-Shop: changed from G33.1?
03:09 PM Tom_L: you should be able to fix it
03:09 PM Tom_L: changed _to_ G33.1
03:09 PM JT-Shop: I need to revisit my golang dxf2gcode
03:09 PM Tom_L: in my post
03:10 PM Tom_L: the pitch is set in the tool description
03:10 PM JT-Shop: I can get g33.1 out of onecnc but I have to do each hole
03:10 PM Tom_L: then you just treat it like a drill
03:10 PM Tom_L: huh
03:10 PM JT-Shop: I'm not following you
03:10 PM Tom_L: me either i guess
03:11 PM Tom_L: in my tool tap description i can enter the pitch more than one way but the easiest it the tpi
03:12 PM Tom_L: then when i use it in the cad, i just treat it like a drill for location and depth
03:21 PM * JT-Shop just noticed that powermatic is having a 10% off sale starting monday... wonder if I screwed up ordering the drum sander yesterday toolnut price went up yesterday $300
03:22 PM JT-Shop: so I wonder if the rest will raise the price?
03:22 PM Tom_L: when you tap, do you go all the way on one pass or go part way then full?
03:22 PM Tom_L: to clear the chips
03:22 PM JT-Shop: all the way in one pass
03:23 PM Tom_L: do you use spiral flute taps?
03:23 PM JT-Shop: if it's a blind hole I use spiral flute, a through hole a spiral point tap
03:23 PM JT-Shop: blind holes if the thread needs to be full depth I might finish by hand
03:23 PM Tom_L: yeah
03:23 PM JT-Shop: I really need to thread mill something!!!
03:24 PM Tom_L: i've got plug and bottoming taps
03:24 PM Tom_L: yes you do!!!
03:24 PM Tom_L: i did that last brass thing just to see if i could do an odd thread
03:24 PM JT-Shop: I have thread milling conversational on the BP now
03:25 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Brass_cup/Brass_Cups5.jpg
03:25 PM JT-Shop: nice, what is it for?
03:25 PM Tom_L: i used a canned pocket cycle on that and not that happy with the floor
03:25 PM Tom_L: just for fun
03:25 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Brass_cup/Brass_Cups8.jpg
03:31 PM Tom_L: i had a few of those brass blanks laying around
03:36 PM Tom_L: you do have to watch the shoulder on those thread mills if you're going very deep
03:36 PM Tom_L: especially the smaller ones
03:36 PM unterhaus: anyone have a small metal cutting bandsaw they recommend?
03:36 PM roycroft: how small?
03:37 PM JT-Shop: I really like my Wilton #7015
03:38 PM JT-Shop: I've had it for about 10 years or so
03:39 PM Tom_L: andy has a small one he mounted to his tool post on on the lathe for large partoff :)
03:39 PM roycroft: if you want one that's really small, the milwaukee port-a-band is great
03:39 PM roycroft: the battery one is more powerful than the corded one, though
03:40 PM roycroft: if you get the "fuel" (brushless) version
03:40 PM roycroft: and it's easy to make a vise-mounting bracket for it
03:40 PM roycroft: if you want something a bit bigger, then any of the common 4x6 saws is fine
03:40 PM roycroft: the cheaper ones you'll need to spend a few hours cleaning up/refining
03:41 PM roycroft: but they're all about the same
03:41 PM JT-Shop: I have the dewalt portable 20v works good
03:41 PM roycroft: i personally think a 7x12 is the ideal size for a small shop
03:41 PM JT-Shop: what makes a difference is how may other tools you have that share the same battery
03:41 PM Tom_L: why do they say 'fuel'?
03:41 PM roycroft: i don't know
03:41 PM roycroft: but fuel = brushless
03:41 PM roycroft: well
03:41 PM roycroft: fuel designates brushless
03:42 PM JT-Shop: I have 7x12 that I converted to a vertical because it sucked as a normal saw
03:42 PM roycroft: and there really is a huge difference between the brushless and conventional ones
03:42 PM roycroft: besides the average $100 cost difference
03:42 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/7x12-bandsaw/
03:43 PM roycroft: nice
03:43 PM roycroft: now all you need is a bigger table for the thign
03:44 PM roycroft: i made a table that's about 15" square for when i use my 7x12 in vertical mode
03:44 PM JT-Shop: I have a bigger table now
03:45 PM Tom_L: what's the blade width on most of those little ones?
03:47 PM JT-Shop: 3/4
03:53 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/7x12-bandsaw/7%20x%2012%20Bandsaw%2008.jpg
04:03 PM unterhaus: I was thinking about a portable. I would be hard pressed to find a place for a horizontal, even the small ones
04:05 PM Tom_L: same here
04:06 PM unterhaus: I didn't know dewalt made a portable. Changing battery brands is really expensive
04:10 PM unterhaus: unfortunately, that's one tool where the brushless version is a lot more than the brushed
04:11 PM Tom_L: i prefer non battery anyway for my purposes
04:13 PM unterhaus: the brushless is 5" vs. 2.5" for the non-brushless
04:14 PM unterhaus: I saw a deal at home depot yesterday on the cordless router with a drill and battery for the same price as the router usually sells for
04:14 PM unterhaus: sold out now though
04:19 PM unterhaus_: you can get a corded power supply for dewalt from 3rd party
04:21 PM Tom_L: what's battery life up to nowdays?
04:21 PM Tom_L: it'd be ok if i were a contractor using it every day
04:22 PM Tom_L: unterhaus_, 5" on the neck?
04:23 PM unterhaus_: 5" width, I think
04:23 PM unterhaus_: not sure about depth
04:24 PM unterhaus_: 2.5" might be a bit restrictive
04:25 PM unterhaus_: battery life is pretty good. I have a circular saw that runs for quite a while on a 5ah
04:25 PM unterhaus_: I was always worried about that with nimh
04:26 PM unterhaus_: with my drills, I just use them and don't bother charging them right away, no point
04:44 PM JT-Shop: unterhaus_, depth of what?
04:44 PM unterhaus_: depth of cut
04:45 PM unterhaus_: I could look it up again
04:46 PM unterhaus_: they have a tiny one, 1 1/2"
04:46 PM unterhaus_: sorry, 1 3/4
04:47 PM unterhaus_: big one cuts 5 in. x 4-3/4 in.
04:48 PM unterhaus_: other one is 2.5" round
04:49 PM JT-Shop: dewalt?
04:49 PM unterhaus_: yeah
04:49 PM JT-Shop: sec
04:50 PM unterhaus_: corded one is 5" square
04:51 PM Tom_L: dewalt?
04:52 PM Tom_L: i kinkda like milwaukee tools
04:52 PM JT-Shop: mine is 2 1/2" wide and if your more than about 1" from the edge 2 3/8" depth
04:52 PM unterhaus_: if I got a corded one I probably would get milwaukee
04:52 PM * JT-Shop goes to put the chickens to bed
04:53 PM JT-Shop: yea corded your not concerned about battery systems
04:53 PM unterhaus_: it's worth it to to get cordless, but not twice as much, I don't think
04:57 PM unterhaus_: milwaukee only charges an extra $30 for cordless brushless
04:57 PM unterhaus_: maybe I'll have to keep looking at dewalt
05:03 PM unterhaus_: for the same price as the dewalt router I can get the milwaukee with 2 batteries and a charger
05:09 PM unterhaus_: okay, bought that, now I can buy milwaukee cordless
05:18 PM * JT-Cave has a Pine Siskin that is not afraid of me at all
05:18 PM JT-Cave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSkcFFvvMNI
05:20 PM JT-Cave: I'm so close the phone camera has trouble staying in focus
05:22 PM Tom_L: saw that earlier
05:23 PM Tom_L: maybe he figures he could take ya if he had to :)
05:24 PM JT-Cave: he is fearless for sure
05:25 PM JT-Cave: I sat on the deck the other day about a foot away and he just went about his business of getting some chow from the cracks in the deck
05:27 PM JT-Cave: making shrimp etouffée tonight
05:32 PM enleth: Tom_L: FWIW, Essential Craftsman started using a cordless Skilsaw recently, fully expecting to be disappointed, and it turned out that it's perfectly good for full time professional framing
05:34 PM enleth: Tom_L: the corded one stays near the ground, the cordless he takes up the ladders and onto the roof, so obviously it's not being used for doing all the bulk cutting on the sawhorses
05:34 PM enleth: but that makes perfect sense
05:34 PM unterhaus_: I just found my lost mesa boards
05:35 PM unterhaus_: they were headed downstairs but got stuck in a pile of junk in the dining room
05:35 PM Tom_L: no way to treat a mesa board...
05:41 PM veegee: I just discovered industrial pallet racking (received it for free)
05:41 PM veegee: Also how cheap it is
05:41 PM veegee: Best thing ever
05:41 PM veegee: I know, I'm such a noob
05:42 PM veegee: I was given the Redirack type. Hopefully it's common compared to the other types
05:45 PM enleth: veegee: one of the best non-standard uses is to put a unit against the back wall in your garage so that the hood of the car fits under the lowest shelf - you get all the storage space back
05:46 PM veegee: This is for my industrial unit
05:46 PM veegee: The lowest horizontal beam is higher than 2m off the ground
05:46 PM veegee: So my work tables, lathe, etc. all easily fit underneath
05:47 PM veegee: going to set up a few more and make the lowest horizontal beam such that the forklift can be parked underneath
05:47 PM enleth: yep, that works too, we're doing that at the Warsaw Hackerspace
05:49 PM enleth: although you're "not supposed" to be doing this - safety standards prohibit workspaces underneath pallet racks and the vendor we talked refused to process the order when we said what it's for, they didn't want to assume responsibility
05:50 PM enleth: we had to buy from a distributor, who didn't give a crap
05:50 PM enleth: *talked to
05:51 PM enleth: veegee: we're using a hand-operated pallet lift, the thing is something of a bastard child of a forklift and pallet jack
05:52 PM enleth: cheap, relatively easy to stow away when not in use
05:52 PM veegee: straddle stacker?
05:52 PM veegee: pallet stacker?
05:53 PM enleth: right, "stacker" is the correct word - we have a regular one, not straddle, so the front supports are directly under the forks
05:53 PM enleth: takes up less space
05:54 PM veegee: https://www.mrdockplate.ca/product-category/pallet-jacks-lifts/hydraulic-stacker/
05:54 PM enleth: it's rarely used so having to pump it up by hand is not a huge deal, but you can get units with air or electric pumping assist
05:54 PM veegee: so the one on the far right?
05:54 PM veegee: Yeah I hate manual pumping, which is partially why I now have 4 forklifts lol
05:54 PM enleth: yep, it's almost exactly identical to the one on the right
05:55 PM veegee: a used reach forklift can be had for $2000
05:55 PM veegee: https://coronadoequipmentsales.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CES-21096-Raymond-EASI-DR25TT-Deep-Reach-Forklift-Main.jpg
05:56 PM veegee: If I find one for $1,000 or less, I'm buying it
05:56 PM enleth: if you have space for it, sure, we didn't
05:58 PM enleth: we're *really* cramped here, and also had to make sure the stacker fits into the cargo lift which is exactly 2m high right to the milimeter
06:02 PM rtce9a85: hi, im using linuxcnc debian wheezy, when i try to do update its give me error saying it has expire, how can i fix this?
06:02 PM Tom_L: wheezy is EOL
06:03 PM JT-Cave: prob have to figure out where the repos are
06:03 PM Tom_L: why do you need to update it?
06:03 PM Tom_L: i haven't updated mine in quite some time
06:03 PM rtce9a85: ok
06:03 PM JT-Cave: I still have a few machines with ubuntu 10.04 lol
06:04 PM rtce9a85: im just asking, thought be good to update
06:04 PM Tom_L: naw, if it's working don't break it
06:05 PM rtce9a85: ok
06:05 PM JT-Cave: https://serverfault.com/questions/960970/wheezy-updates-on-archive-debian-org-returns-404-not-found
06:07 PM Tom_itx: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/496542/debian-wheezy-update-repository/496554
06:07 PM Tom_itx: https://linuxconfig.org/debian-apt-get-wheezy-sources-list
06:07 PM Tom_L: maybe one of those will point you if you still want
06:08 PM Tom_L: the first one is quite old
06:10 PM JT-Cave: looks like a bit of rain then the temps drop
06:10 PM Tom_L: rain here
06:10 PM Tom_L: and getting cooler
06:10 PM rtce9a85: whats best irc client to use on debian wheezey ?
06:11 PM JT-Cave: I broke down and started a fire in the big shop this evening
06:11 PM JT-Cave: hexchat
06:11 PM Tom_L: i use hexchat
06:12 PM rtce9a85: can you install hexchat on the repo ?
06:12 PM Tom_L: you can install hexchat on anything
06:12 PM rtce9a85: i cannot seem to find it ?
06:12 PM Tom_L: from it's site get a deb maybe
06:12 PM Tom_L: you install it locally
06:13 PM rtce9a85: ok ill try install it
06:13 PM rtce9a85: thanks
06:14 PM Tom_L: i think newer ones have it in the repo
06:15 PM JT-Cave: sudo apt install hexchat
06:19 PM Tom_L: finally found a green wheel for my grinder
06:19 PM Tom_L: most i found were too big for a bench grinder
07:23 PM veegee: Tom_L that's why I only buy 3 phase grinders (government auctions, etc.)
07:23 PM veegee: A VFD makes anything possible
07:31 PM XXCoder: really? can it take one billionaire?
07:31 PM XXCoder: *make
08:08 PM veegee: Ugh I made the mistake of trying to drill a hole into tool steel using a cobalt tipped drill bit
08:09 PM Tom_L: who won?
08:09 PM veegee: I should only keep tungsten carbide bits near the mill
08:09 PM veegee: the material being drilled into
08:09 PM veegee: it's just a cheap metal file
08:09 PM veegee: yet it's harder than the dewalt cobalt tipped drill bit
08:10 PM Tom_L: why you drillin holes in a file?
08:10 PM veegee: Using it for its metal. I needed a small square of hard steel
08:10 PM Tom_L: that could be considered tool abuse!
08:11 PM Tom_L: i'm curious what the white grind wheels are for
08:11 PM Tom_L: pure white
08:11 PM Tom_L: i've never had reason to use one
08:13 PM XXCoder: JT-Cave: you got pretty close to bird
08:13 PM Tom_L: mmm, less heat while grinding
08:18 PM XXCoder: sudo make me a sandwinch
08:18 PM Tom_L: root password?
08:19 PM XXCoder: password1
08:25 PM jesseg: roycroft, in other words, if the heads are too big, the antennas get screwed?
08:50 PM XXCoder: outside context that just sounds strange lol
10:18 PM unterhaus_: trying to talk myself into putting the encoder on the chuck side of the carriage
10:19 PM unterhaus_: cleaner install, still have cross slide stop adjustment