Oct 02 2020
01:05 AM Deejay: moin
01:40 AM Loetmichel: *COUGH* *COUGH* *wheeze* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* Coworker brought sweet pastry because its his birthday... $me got a sliver of icing in the windpipe while eating one... 4 coworkers "DIE!" :-)
01:40 AM Loetmichel: mornin btw.
01:41 AM XXCoder: COVIDDDDDDDDDD
01:41 AM XXCoder: talking about that, seems president of usa got it
01:43 AM Loetmichel: if that is so: sounds like poetic justice ;)
01:43 AM XXCoder: lol depends on if simpson prediction at end being true or not
04:53 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:59 AM XXCoder: yo
05:21 AM miss0r2: JT-Cave: Morning
05:21 AM miss0r2: Now I am ready, new endmills in hand, to give this another go.
05:22 AM XXCoder: rock that thing out
05:23 AM JT-Cave: what kind of end mills did you get?
05:24 AM miss0r2: 10mm TIALN coated carbide endmills, 45degree corners & variable helix. They should be ideal for stainless
05:25 AM JT-Cave: yes that sounds like a nice one
05:28 AM miss0r2: Their data recommends 1682rpm at 288mm/min feed
05:28 AM JT-Cave: all I did yesterday was screw up then fix up parts, I hope to have my head screwed on right today
05:29 AM miss0r2: fingers crossed, ay? :)
05:29 AM JT-Cave: how many flutes?
05:31 AM miss0r2: 4
05:55 AM miss0r2: cut time for the pocket and the outside contour 5 minutes total
05:55 AM miss0r2: no missounds.
05:55 AM miss0r2: surface finish somewhat reasonable
05:55 AM * miss0r2 is happy about this
05:55 AM JT-Cave: nice
05:56 AM XXCoder: yeah
06:02 AM miss0r2: Just updated the program to make an additional contour to clean it up. I think this will work fine
06:02 AM miss0r2: and it better... these are ~$150 cutters.
06:08 AM Tom_L: morning
06:15 AM miss0r2: morning
06:19 AM Tom_L: going better today?
06:21 AM miss0r2: yep https://imgur.com/a/xoB59Su
06:23 AM miss0r2: I got some new cutters, with some rather explicit parameters for driving them. So far I've cut out 2 today, and another almost done in the mill now.
06:23 AM miss0r2: still no visible wear on the endmill
06:24 AM Tom_L: what chip load does that figure to be?
06:24 AM Tom_L: i think you were trying to spin em too fast
06:25 AM Tom_L: veriable flute reduce chatter
06:25 AM miss0r2: I was spinning it too fast.
06:25 AM miss0r2: :]
06:26 AM Tom_L: they also burnish weld that way :D
06:26 AM miss0r2: this 10mm endmill with variable helix here says I have to run it at 1645rpm and 288mm/min feed
06:27 AM JT-Cave: miss0r2, looking good
06:27 AM JT-Cave: also if the edge is the slightest bit dull it will work harden the stainless
06:27 AM miss0r2: jt, thanks
06:27 AM miss0r2: indeed
06:28 AM miss0r2: I just finished the first with a finish contour on it. I can't complain about the result
06:28 AM JT-Cave: I have a box marked "not so sharp tools" where I throw all my dull tools
06:28 AM JT-Cave: if I have to do something that will damage a tool I dig in that box lol
06:29 AM miss0r2: I just have a box called carbide scrap
06:29 AM Tom_L: ever have em resharpened?
06:30 AM miss0r2: yeah. once a year I pick out the ones that are not exploded and send them for a regrind
06:30 AM miss0r2: its like 1/5th the price of a new one.
06:30 AM Tom_L: luckily a grind shop is less than a mile from me
06:31 AM JT-Cave: I got a 1 1/2" end mill sharpened once and only the tip was dull... came back 1.4567 in diameter
06:31 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, just tell em to grind the end
06:31 AM Tom_L: unless the side _is_ dull
06:33 AM miss0r2: jt, yeah usualy I just ask them to resize it to the next 0.5mm step down
06:34 AM JT-Cave: anything over 1/2" is insert for me now
06:34 AM XXCoder: it does get expensive, inserts save pretty lot money if it lasts
06:35 AM Tom_L: and if you're not near a grind shop
06:35 AM miss0r2: I think perhaps I should look into getting a few endmills with inserts. For the roughing
06:36 AM miss0r2: I have a few, but they all end up with a rather big corner radius
06:36 AM JT-Cave: all my small end mills are coated anyway so sharpening them removes that
06:36 AM miss0r2: not always what I want :)
06:36 AM Tom_L: i forget what they're called but my friend was showing me some larger cutters that look like roughing endmills but with a finer 'thread' on the side
06:36 AM miss0r2: my grinding shop recoats them
06:36 AM JT-Cave: nice
06:37 AM Tom_L: 6 lead cutters
06:37 AM XXCoder: shop I worked for usually dont regrind tools
06:38 AM Tom_L: serated endmills
06:38 AM JT-Cave: https://www.maritool.com/Indexable-Tooling-90%C2%B0-Rect.-Insert-Shell-Mill/c50_112/index.html
06:38 AM JT-Cave: https://www.maritool.com/Indexable-Tooling-90%C2%B0-Square-Insert-Shell-Mill/c50_111/index.html
06:38 AM XXCoder: one job is exception, as mirgin is too low, so tools is reground over and over
06:38 AM JT-Cave: I have those
06:38 AM XXCoder: .75 went down to .715 and still reground and used
06:38 AM Tom_L: those are nearly as much as a solid cutter in small sizes
06:40 AM miss0r2: number 4 is now done. The cutter is starting to looks worse for wear...
06:40 AM miss0r2: This will be my economical ruin
06:40 AM Tom_L: serated endmills are like roughing but with a variable radius on the serations
06:41 AM XXCoder: mis, bad job where cost is higher than income?
06:42 AM XXCoder: tom not same as corncob rougher?
06:42 AM Tom_L: no
06:42 AM miss0r2: XXCoder: Yeah. income = 0, cost = high
06:42 AM XXCoder: personal or friend?
06:42 AM Tom_L: fun value?
06:42 AM miss0r2: personal
06:42 AM XXCoder: nice
06:43 AM miss0r2: and assuming I don't have to starve my family and myself to survive, the fun value will be up there ;D
06:43 AM XXCoder: i got no will, i have time but no will to make my cnc router work again and run stuff. oh and still no room
06:44 AM tiwake: cob endmills are amazing
06:44 AM XXCoder: i wish work used that more often lol
06:45 AM tiwake: cheap and they remove material like nothing else will
06:45 AM Tom_L: yeah
06:45 AM XXCoder: far less wear on main tools
06:45 AM XXCoder: which means long runs you dont adjust or swap as often.
06:46 AM XXCoder: adjust or swap = chance to scrap part
06:46 AM Tom_L: not practical for smaller parts
06:46 AM Tom_L: they're usually a larger OD
06:46 AM tiwake: or aluminum
06:53 AM miss0r2: thats the first cutter dead
06:54 AM miss0r2: 46minuts... probably failed around 44minuts of chip time. That is within reason for stainless steel
06:56 AM tiwake: what kind of stainless?
06:57 AM miss0r2: Which realy makes me think I should've had'em laser cut and done nothing about the two pipe bosses on top
06:57 AM XXCoder: yeech stainless lol
06:57 AM miss0r2: regular 316 bar stock
06:57 AM tiwake: yeah.. heh
06:58 AM miss0r2: I think 44minuts is pretty good for tool life in stainless
06:58 AM tiwake: donno about anybody else, but 316 has such a varied machineability difficulty...
07:15 AM JT-Cave: guy sends me an email at 1am asking how to add on a product to his order without more shipping charges... 1/2 hour later he places a second order
07:20 AM XXCoder: ugh
07:31 AM jymmmm: morning
07:34 AM jymmmm: I picked up a nice cherry tree yesterday, it's been graffeted; Bing and Lipins, so no need to polinate to get fruit
07:50 AM miss0r2: JT-Cave: What are you selling, exactly?
07:50 AM miss0r2: jymmmm: Hows the fire doing?
07:53 AM jymmmm: miss0r2: Minor hot spot detected 7 hours ago. So slowly burning out
07:54 AM jymmmm: miss0r2: Evac warning lifted 9/30
07:55 AM miss0r2: nice
07:55 AM miss0r2: glad to hear it
07:55 AM jymmmm: There are still two Evac orders in place, but it's in the major burned area, so probably due to damage, etc
08:03 AM JT-Cave: miss0r2, https://mesaus.com/ http://spyderstore.com/
08:03 AM miss0r2: JT-Cave: I think I already knew that. :)
08:36 AM JT-Cave: but a friend of mine drives a honey wagon and she says you should pump your septic tank once a year
08:40 AM XXCoder: ?
08:41 AM jymmmm: But she just wants the money
08:42 AM jymmmm: XXCoder: septic tanks are pumped every 4 to 5 years typically
09:05 AM miss0r2: Getting there: https://imgur.com/a/MgTdM14
09:08 AM jymmmm: miss0r2: only 14,342.5 to go!!!
09:08 AM jymmmm: nice job btw
09:09 AM miss0r2: hehe thanks. Not that many though
09:10 AM miss0r2: 6 blanks left and one in the mill
09:24 AM JT-Cave: typically they are only pumped when you have a problem and your toilet won't flush
09:33 AM Eric__: does Loeffler mean person who uses a spoon in German?
09:34 AM Eric__: I suppose I shouldn't talk, my name means basement in German
09:35 AM sync: yes
09:59 AM miss0r2: Eric__: yeah, don't worrie about it. My name makes alot of english speakers think I am a girl. In the electronics channel it was deduced that it would probably mean miss. zero resistance
10:00 AM Eric__: Never got too much flack fore being named basement, but my initials are EEK, so I heard about that occasionally when I was a kid
10:00 AM roycroft: i'm a native english speaker and i never associated any gender to you based on your nick
10:01 AM roycroft: i have no idea what it means
10:01 AM roycroft: i figured it was something signficant to you, but likely out of my realm of experience
10:01 AM Eric__: I can see how the zero throws some people off
10:04 AM miss0r2: realy long story shortened alot. Back in the computer gaming days, I was usualy called "Garfield". Garfield is a cat. "misser" is the danish equivalent of "kitty" and over time it became miss0r
10:04 AM miss0r2: so.. I guess I am not "that crazy cat person"... haha
11:23 AM JT-Cave: roycroft, what's a decent moisture meter?
11:40 AM roycroft: i like the one i have, jt-cave
11:40 AM roycroft: i forget what it is - hang on a sec
11:42 AM roycroft: https://www.lignomatusa.com/meters/ligno-scanner-sd-dual-depth-moisture-meter/
11:42 AM roycroft: i got the ligno-scanner sd model
11:42 AM roycroft: i like it because it's pinless and it's configurable
11:42 AM roycroft: dual depth
11:43 AM roycroft: it self-calibrates every time it's used
11:43 AM roycroft: i turn it on, look up the density of the wood i'm going to scan, enter that, and i can read moisture at 1/4" and 3/4"
11:45 AM robotustra: roycroft, did you finish your bench?
11:46 AM roycroft: mostly
11:46 AM roycroft: i still have to flatten the bench top better
11:46 AM roycroft: but as i said before, that's a matter of time - i need to let it stabilize
11:46 AM robotustra: so you did start to use it?
11:46 AM roycroft: and i haven't finished the deadman yet, because i haven't decided exactly how i want to finish it
11:46 AM roycroft: yes
11:46 AM roycroft: in fact, i sold my old bench last night :)
11:46 AM roycroft: so now i can walk around in my shop again
11:47 AM robotustra: then congrats
11:47 AM roycroft: thanks!
11:47 AM robotustra: I'm about to make a gear
11:47 AM roycroft: i applied finish to the bench dogs yesterday
11:47 AM roycroft: which, other than the flattening of the top and the deadman, was the only remaining task
11:47 AM roycroft: good luck with that
11:48 AM roycroft: i want to make gears some day
11:48 AM robotustra: too mach preparations, like make bushing for broaching, broach, setup rotary table... etc
12:14 PM JT-Cave: roycroft, thanks
12:14 PM roycroft: no problem
12:14 PM roycroft: some say the pin style ones are more accurate
12:14 PM roycroft: but they leave pin holes in the surface ofthe wood
12:14 PM roycroft: and the one i have seems to be pretty accurate
12:15 PM * JT-Cave heads back out to the machine shop
01:31 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
02:49 PM Loetmichel: re at home
02:49 PM Loetmichel: *haha*, the world is a village. Just went 100km to Heidelberg to meet a swiss Professor that is guest teaching at the HD University... and a preschool friend of mine said i could print said professor some enclosures... Said friend lived for a while in Linz and met him there.
03:27 PM JT-Shop: last parts in the PC oven, fence done, gates not done, hopper not started yet... wait it's Friday screw it all
03:29 PM roycroft: jt-shop: one of the things i really like about my moisture meter is that, although it comes with a value chart for a wide variety of woods, the number you're entering is just the specific gravity of the wood, so if you have a species not on the chart and you know the sg, you can still use it
03:31 PM sliptonic: Hi. Looking for some help getting Huanyang GT VFD to respond on modbus.
03:31 PM JT-Shop: cool, I'm reading Christopher Swartz's book on workbenches and now understand why I had problems with southern yellow pine
03:32 PM roycroft: aah
03:32 PM roycroft: and that's a good reason to get he kind of meter i have
03:32 PM roycroft: you can take it with you to the lumber yard and not get in troble for poking holes in the wood
03:33 PM roycroft: southern yellow pine is 51 on the chart for my meter, btw
03:33 PM roycroft: and if i could get it here for a decent price i'd have considered making my bench out of it
03:33 PM roycroft: but ash was actually a lot cheaper than southern yellow pine
03:33 PM XXCoder: whats wrong with yellow pine
03:33 PM roycroft: which is odd, because it's eastern ash we get
03:34 PM roycroft: nothing is wrong with it
03:34 PM roycroft: other than that it's really expensive in my part of the world
03:34 PM roycroft: it's an interesting wood
03:34 PM roycroft: it's fairly dense and hard when it's freshly cut and dried
03:34 PM roycroft: but it gets a *lot* harder as time goes on
03:34 PM roycroft: it's actually an ideal wood for a work bench
03:35 PM roycroft: other than being too expensive here :)
03:35 PM XXCoder: here pine is really cheap. basically trash wood lol
03:35 PM roycroft: the pine we get here is really crappy
03:35 PM roycroft: it's soft and super pitchy
03:35 PM roycroft: pondorosa pine isn't that horrible, but it's still really soft
03:36 PM roycroft: southern yellow pine is more like douglas fir than the pines we commonly find here
03:36 PM XXCoder: cool :)
03:36 PM XXCoder: i do want to make wood cnc shop
03:36 PM roycroft: douglas fir is also a good wood for building work benches
03:37 PM roycroft: southern yellow pine, as i said, has a specific gravity of 0.51
03:37 PM JT-Shop: I have a huge stack of red and white oak boards so a moisture meter has become important
03:37 PM roycroft: sugar pine, the common pine found at the big box stores arond here, has a sg of 0.34
03:38 PM roycroft: douglas fir is 0.46
03:38 PM XXCoder: not sure what pine we have here
03:38 PM roycroft: white ash (what i used) is 0.62
03:38 PM roycroft: you have sugar pine
03:38 PM XXCoder: lol ok
03:38 PM JT-Shop: is the sg meausred when it's dry
03:38 PM roycroft: if you're talking about the stuff you get at home depot that's so soft you can almost dent it with your finger nail
03:38 PM roycroft: 12% moisture
03:39 PM XXCoder: sounds like match yes
03:39 PM roycroft: which is how the meter works
03:39 PM roycroft: if you dial in the sg and it measures higher than that the moisture content is greater than 12%
03:40 PM roycroft: folks compare ash to oak a lot, btw
03:40 PM roycroft: red oak has a sg of 0.60
03:40 PM roycroft: white oak 0.66
03:40 PM roycroft: so it's right in the middle
03:41 PM roycroft: european beech is commonly used for workbenches, because in europe it's cheap and easy to get in long, thick, straight lengths
03:41 PM roycroft: the sg of beech is 0.54, so ash has the edge there
03:41 PM roycroft: hard maple is popular here for benches, but it has a sg of 0.55, so ash still beats that out
03:42 PM roycroft: a woodworking bench is like a metal lathe or a milling machine
03:42 PM roycroft: you want it to be as dense and heavy as is practical to build it
03:43 PM roycroft: wenge would be nice for building a bench, if it were affordable
03:43 PM roycroft: as far as density
03:43 PM roycroft: 0.80
03:43 PM roycroft: the problem is that wenge is very dark
03:43 PM roycroft: and a light colored bench is better because it's easier to see the work
03:44 PM roycroft: i've seen benches made out of solid cherry and walnut, and while they're very pretty to look at, they wouldn't be fun to work on
03:47 PM JT-Shop: it's officially the weekend for me, just hung the last parts up to cool
03:47 PM XXCoder: roy whats wrong with paint top?
03:47 PM XXCoder: so have hard wood and bright surface to look at
03:48 PM JT-Shop: if you use the bench from time to time you have to flatten it with a plane
03:48 PM XXCoder: makes sense
03:49 PM JT-Shop: the wood will continue to move a bit even after your done building it
03:49 PM Deejay: gn8
03:50 PM JT-Shop: night
03:52 PM roycroft: what jt-shop said
03:52 PM XXCoder: yea
03:52 PM roycroft: also, if you paint the top you'll risk getting paint embedded in your work
03:53 PM roycroft: as well, paint will tend to make the top slick
03:53 PM roycroft: i've sanded my bench to P240 and then applied an oil-varnish finish to it
03:53 PM roycroft: but when i finish flattening the top i'll sand it just to P80 before i apply the oil-varnish
03:53 PM roycroft: you want the top to be a little "grabby"
03:54 PM roycroft: or a the very least, not slippery
03:54 PM roycroft: it shouldn't be rough
03:54 PM roycroft: but if you put a flat piece of wood on top of the bench, it should not spin or slide if nudge it lightly
03:56 PM sliptonic: Trying again. Anyone on with modbus experience on a Huanyang GT VFD?
03:56 PM sliptonic: Have configured VFD per the wiki page. Trying to load component via halrun I get this error read_modbus_register: error reading freq-fb (register 0x3000): Connection timed out
04:05 PM roycroft: jeeze
04:05 PM roycroft: three white house press corps members and a white house press room staffer have tested positive
04:05 PM roycroft: one of the reporters was on air force one last weekend, when hope hicks was on it not wearing a mask
04:06 PM andypugh: JT-Shop: I think I have the ISO worked out. But it’s only been 30 minutes so far.
04:06 PM roycroft: the entire west wing could be infected
04:07 PM sliptonic: Hi andypugh Did you write the HY_GT_VFD component?
04:09 PM centreline: evening all
04:09 PM sliptonic: The man page for the HY_GT_VFD component says some VFDs must be physically modified but doesn't say what symptoms they exhibited.
04:10 PM Tom_L: iirc there are more than one vfd component. you might look at the others too
04:11 PM sliptonic: More than one component that work with the GT?
04:11 PM Tom_L: i've not used modbus so i'm not sure but i've seen several there
04:13 PM Tom_L: that one probably is your best bet though
04:13 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/man/man1/hy_vfd.1.html
04:13 PM JT-Shop: andypugh, great
04:13 PM Tom_L: iso for which?
04:14 PM JT-Shop: 2.8 I assume
04:14 PM JT-Shop: pc
04:14 PM Tom_L: was there a problem?
04:14 PM JT-Shop: screen blanking
04:14 PM Tom_L: saw something about screen blanking
04:15 PM JT-Shop: most modern desktops and OS assume your on a battery powered device cruising spacebook or bitter
04:28 PM _unreal_: This is going to be fun :S have to get Main mount plate setup and zero'ed so i can let my CNC pilot the mounting holes for the major Z bracket mount
04:42 PM centreline: Tonight I got my spindle dir pin wired to switch relays on a opto isolated relay board for dir changes and I start it up, and now the spindle changes dir, yay
04:42 PM centreline: less yay, in reverse its really really slow, I obviously have screwed my config up somewhere too
04:42 PM centreline: this is 7i76->0-10v vfd
04:43 PM Tom_L: running pid on the spindle?
04:43 PM centreline: this is where my confusion starts... I have no spindle encoder etc just open loop control
04:44 PM Tom_L: mmm
04:44 PM centreline: but I used pncconf to set it up (probably wrong) and there are mentions of pid values etc in there, when I just want to go 0-10v min to max speed and change dir with dir pin
04:45 PM Tom_L: well with no encoder or some feedback pid won't do you any good
04:46 PM centreline: I searched for a hal file with open loop spindle on a 7i76 but cant seem to find anything
04:46 PM centreline: I ordered a encoder, but I have to take the head off the machine to make up some mounts, and er... its a large exercise because of how close it is to the celing
04:47 PM centreline: so for now, I just want basic open loop
04:47 PM Tom_L: move the celine?
04:47 PM Tom_L: we did on one cnc we had
04:47 PM centreline: its cast concrete, with a car parked upstairs...
04:48 PM * Tom_L has never seen a car climb stairs
04:48 PM centreline: actually I lifted it up on some bucket forks but...
04:48 PM centreline: its just tucked away until the car workshop is ready, its a old 50's ford hotrod
04:49 PM Tom_L: cool
04:49 PM centreline: the point is, there is a lot of weight up there... so clearance holes are a no go...
04:50 PM centreline: when the car workshop has a floor in it, there is a cincinnati sabre 750 in there too, so lack of encoder on the bridgeport interact wont be a problem then anyway :/
04:51 PM centreline: Im at that point where I must be running out of corners to box myself into Im sure... :(
04:58 PM roycroft: the president is being taken to walter reed hospital
05:10 PM JavaBean: centreline, never underestimate the number of corners "the whole general mishmash" will create for you to box yourself into.
05:11 PM JavaBean: i mean, shoot. just look at CaptHindsight for a hint to that delima
05:12 PM CaptHindsight: just got back from Minneapolis
05:12 PM CaptHindsight: interesting to see actual neighborhoods where the protest are, same for Kenosha, Wi
05:13 PM CaptHindsight: and the actual damage vs what the news spins it into
05:14 PM CaptHindsight: the Matsuura sprung a leak just before I left, come back to a gallon of hydraulic fluid on the floor
05:15 PM CaptHindsight: something leaked in the tool changer, the fluid travelled up a flex conduit and into the control cabinet
05:15 PM CaptHindsight: on the opposite side of the machine
05:16 PM CaptHindsight: what a mess
05:16 PM JavaBean: now that is tenacity
05:17 PM JavaBean: in hindsite, the good capt is recomending draining all the machines before leaving work for the day.... gotcha, thanks for the advice
05:19 PM centreline: Yay, net spindle-vel-cmd-rpm-abs => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout , now have working output both senses
05:20 PM roycroft: and he's on his way right now
05:20 PM roycroft: chopper up
05:21 PM centreline: lots of choppers up isnt it?
05:21 PM roycroft: only one matters
05:21 PM centreline: I remember they fly multiple so nobody knows which is the one
05:22 PM roycroft: we won't have another woodrow wilson situation here
05:22 PM roycroft: even as secretive as this white house is, that kind of thing is no longer possible
05:23 PM roycroft: we'll know if pence assumes the role of president
05:24 PM centreline: I had to look that up, I live I france but know about the helicopters because they flew in when we were in DC sightseeing
05:24 PM roycroft: they do the same with air force one
05:25 PM roycroft: and actually, there is a whole fleet of them
05:25 PM roycroft: not only the one on which the president is flying and the "dummy" that flys along with it
05:25 PM centreline: I worked somewhere that grounded airforce one for 40+ minutes once and caused a international incident
05:25 PM CaptHindsight: I'm surprised that he cooperates with that. I'd figure he'd be up there waving to get attention.
05:25 PM roycroft: but because of the logistics of his travels, there has to be another pair of them at the next stop
05:25 PM centreline: a router config went bad on the network that did atc...
05:26 PM roycroft: they have to secure the airport, fuel, even the food and restrooms ahead of time
05:26 PM roycroft: and that takes a bunch of time
05:26 PM roycroft: and there are also military cargo jets as part of the fleet
05:27 PM roycroft: that haul his motorcades around the world
05:27 PM roycroft: again, more than one, because of the logistics
05:27 PM roycroft: to quote our former vice president, moving the president around is "a big fucking deal"
05:31 PM CaptHindsight: I wonder what the "experimental" treatment is?
05:31 PM centreline: I cant find a link on it on the internet, but it was a long time ago anyway
05:32 PM roycroft: i'm really worried
05:32 PM CaptHindsight: “polyclonol antibodies,”
05:32 PM roycroft: i think it's pretty well-known here that i don't like the guy at all, nor his policies
05:32 PM roycroft: but i don't want him to die
05:32 PM roycroft: i don't want any president to die while in office
05:32 PM roycroft: i hope whatever they try works
05:33 PM roycroft: i really really do
05:33 PM CaptHindsight: why I could never be a doc
05:33 PM XXCoder: capt probably UV in mouth and backend like he said while ago
05:33 PM centreline: If Boris Johnson is anything to go by, his popularity will go up massively if he's hospitalised, but not my dog, not my fight
05:33 PM roycroft: and the way this disease goes, he could be dead by tomorrow
05:33 PM XXCoder: covid dont kill in day
05:33 PM roycroft: he is on his way to walter reed right now
05:33 PM roycroft: no "if"
05:34 PM XXCoder: it'd be far less dangerous diease if it was
05:34 PM roycroft: and johnson's personal favorables went up five points after his hospitalization
05:34 PM roycroft: not nothing
05:34 PM roycroft: but not "massively"
05:34 PM roycroft: and those were not job performance favorables
05:34 PM CaptHindsight: hard to believe any of the news stories at first
05:34 PM roycroft: just personal favorables
05:34 PM centreline: it was like a bellcurve around the date
05:35 PM CaptHindsight: what is real vs spin
05:35 PM centreline: Im not even convinced Johnson had it personally.
05:35 PM roycroft: what is real is that there's a chopper in the air right now and the president is in the chopper
05:35 PM roycroft: and he's going to walter reed
05:35 PM roycroft: johnson had it
05:35 PM CaptHindsight: and has taken famotidine (an antacid), melatonin, zinc, vitamin D and aspirin.
05:35 PM roycroft: and he almost died
05:35 PM roycroft: i'm pretty good at detecting spin
05:36 PM centreline: even that could be spin
05:36 PM roycroft: i can weed through the bullshit
05:36 PM centreline: they sacked a nurse for saying it wasnt severe even if it was covid
05:36 PM XXCoder: i did wonder if all day wait for results was actually spin doctors working on it, but trump bypassed it by twitter
05:36 PM roycroft: it wasn't an all day wait
05:37 PM CaptHindsight: sacked a nurse, heh got to watch what version of English is use here
05:37 PM roycroft: it was actually only a few hours since the announcement that he got tested and his tweet that he tested positive
05:37 PM roycroft: faster than i thought
05:37 PM XXCoder: long enough since test is 15 min
05:37 PM roycroft: when i heard yesterday that he had been tested i figured we'd find out this morning
05:37 PM roycroft: not last night
05:37 PM XXCoder: maybe its just few hours of figjting trump "fake news" before he admits it
05:38 PM CaptHindsight: maybe they are using a witch or a wizard to detect positivity?
05:38 PM _unreal_: making end limit hard stops for my Z
05:38 PM CaptHindsight: Borat II is coming out soon
05:38 PM _unreal_: 11mm thick aluminum
05:38 PM XXCoder: capt considering he had basically witch doctor yeah a possibility lol
05:38 PM XXCoder: demon sperm lol
05:38 PM _unreal_: borat was SUCH a shit movie
05:38 PM XXCoder: anyone you know pregrant by ghost?
05:38 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvPTCvUnNQA
05:38 PM _unreal_: borat and blare witch
05:39 PM roycroft: my doctor advised me, at the beginning of the pandemic, to continue taking my daily multivitamin, and to take extra vitamin c and d, and a zinc supplement
05:39 PM XXCoder: damn looked fun video but first second of handcam killed me
05:39 PM roycroft: which i've been doing ever since
05:39 PM roycroft: not massive amounts of any of that
05:39 PM centreline: its d3 that does the stuff isnt it?
05:40 PM roycroft: d3 is the most effective of the d complex at doing the antibody stuff
05:40 PM centreline: I take D3 because I'm immuno compromised
05:40 PM roycroft: i also take low dose aspirin daily
05:40 PM roycroft: which she recommended as well
05:40 PM CaptHindsight: XXCoder: Ghost Baby
05:40 PM roycroft: my "meds" only cost me a few dollars/month
05:40 PM XXCoder: lol
05:40 PM centreline: but yesterday I signed up as a vaccine trial candidate
05:41 PM roycroft: so i don't mind, even if they don't have that great an affect
05:41 PM roycroft: but there's plenty of evidence that they do help
05:41 PM centreline: they want people as messed up as me apparently...
05:41 PM roycroft: real evidence, not internet evidence
05:41 PM roycroft: and in the amounts i'm taking there is zero downside
05:41 PM roycroft: the vitamin c, for example
05:41 PM XXCoder: sigh so tired of dizzyness
05:41 PM roycroft: it's impossible to od on it
05:42 PM roycroft: or build up toxic levels
05:42 PM roycroft: it's water soluble
05:42 PM roycroft: if you ingest more than you can use it just goes away in your pee
05:42 PM centreline: you can get mega doses from the doctor here as ampules you snap and drink
05:43 PM centreline: they do a vitamin level test and write a prescription and the chemist hands it you to get you back in balance
05:44 PM centreline: for me its free because I have a ALD (affliction long duree (/duration))
05:44 PM _unreal_: its still not safe or good to over do it on vitamin C
05:44 PM _unreal_: NEVER over dose on fat suable vitamins
05:45 PM centreline: yeah I only take the RDA of d3 as a supplement
05:45 PM XXCoder: most times if your body is not lacking anything theres no reason to get any supplement
05:46 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, MOST people are lacking
05:46 PM _unreal_: if you live a normal ehhh american diet YOUR lacking
05:48 PM centreline: it depends on where you are also, if you spend enough time outside or all indoors etc
05:48 PM centreline: after a while i cant adjust my spindle in reverse, and see this Emit interp-run
05:48 PM centreline: Something went wrong, we have an unknown spindle widget
05:48 PM centreline: on the shell, then the vfd stops and wont start...
05:49 PM centreline: that pasted badly, sorry
05:50 PM _unreal_: very confusing yes
05:50 PM _unreal_: lol
05:52 PM centreline: yeah its when I go to move the speed slider about, gmoccapy issue probably
05:52 PM _unreal_: wish I had two flute up cut bits 1/9th
05:53 PM _unreal_: only got straight and single flute
05:53 PM _unreal_: osigh
05:55 PM * JavaBean grumples
06:01 PM _unreal_: ?
06:05 PM _unreal_: first end stop almost done
06:05 PM _unreal_: one more to mill and I can install them
06:05 PM _unreal_: next on the list is piloting the holes for the major mount plate
06:19 PM _unreal_: I would not have to stop after every pass and clean when cutting aluminum I would think as much
06:19 PM _unreal_: AS MUCH...
06:21 PM _unreal_: its amazing how the FAN on the PSU for my brushless spindle almost never kicks on during run
06:21 PM _unreal_: and its only rated for 50 watts over what the spindle is rated for
06:45 PM robotustra: _unreal_, still building mini machine?
06:59 PM _unreal_: the mini one has some areas to complete but its working
07:00 PM _unreal_: I'm working on building more parts for the big one I've been building
07:00 PM _unreal_: the one for my daughter is in WORKING condition
07:00 PM Tom_L: still waiting on parts
07:02 PM _unreal_: her's just needs me to finish a few more parts for the finishing touches
07:02 PM _unreal_: but other then that she can at LEAST draw with it now
07:03 PM Tom_L: tie the controls to an etch-o-sketch
07:04 PM Tom_L: reminds me of the bridgeport duplicator my friend had
07:04 PM robotustra: started to cut gear
07:04 PM robotustra: continue tomorrow
07:04 PM robotustra: so far so good
07:05 PM Tom_L: http://www.lislesurplus.com/B/Bridgeport-true-trace-360-3D-auto-duplicator-mill/picture-1.jpg
07:07 PM robotustra: was ist das?
07:07 PM Tom_L: a duplicator
07:07 PM Tom_L: hydraulic
07:07 PM Tom_L: bridgeport true trace
07:08 PM robotustra: duplicate any thing?
07:08 PM Tom_L: you move the stylus with your hand and it follows along
07:08 PM Tom_L: you need a steady hand
07:08 PM robotustra: ah, ok.
07:09 PM robotustra: is it yours?
07:09 PM Tom_L: no, my friend had one at one time
07:09 PM robotustra: nice
07:09 PM Tom_L: one of his first machines
07:10 PM Tom_L: mostly made die plates with it
07:28 PM _unreal_: freaking hell what a nightmare
07:28 PM _unreal_: I dont know why but the software that my home cnc uses planetcnc crashes easy IF I ROTATE the work peace
07:29 PM _unreal_: I have one peace left and the damn thing keeps crashing on me
07:29 PM _unreal_: got it now
07:29 PM _unreal_: I think
10:00 PM t4nk_freenode: keep the piece, br0
10:02 PM t4nk_freenode: keep the peas alive!
10:20 PM _unreal_: hard stops have been installed in the Z on the big cnc I"m building
10:21 PM _unreal_: milling was harder then I had planned
10:21 PM _unreal_: first one milled fine second one the damn thing kept crashing software wise
10:21 PM Tom_L: why?
10:22 PM Tom_L: does it buffer from the pc?
10:22 PM Tom_L: you're running grbl right?
10:36 PM _unreal_: my daughters machine is a grbl setup
10:36 PM _unreal_: simple uno with motor hat
10:37 PM _unreal_: my home machine has a planetcnc controller
10:37 PM _unreal_: I CAN NOT complain. but most of my issues are from my own ignorance. when I plugged +24v to ground
10:37 PM _unreal_: SCREWED up the controller some how...
10:37 PM _unreal_: works but its @#$@#$ up
10:38 PM _unreal_: the new machine is the ve7it controller that I have not gotten working yet. have not been dealing with as well. $$ and other issues currently
10:40 PM _unreal_: My daughter is hat her mothers for once. and I got my daughters machine working. NOT done but working...
10:40 PM _unreal_: so while I have some free time I'm going to go nuts trying to get my BIG MACHINE closer to completion
10:40 PM _unreal_: would be really nice if I could get the controllers working
10:40 PM _unreal_: I just dont know what the issue is
10:41 PM _unreal_: if its encoder signal
10:41 PM _unreal_: wiring noise other issues
10:41 PM _unreal_: likely wiring nose for sure
10:41 PM _unreal_: as I recall according to ve7it if its wired right it should just try to hold the motor
10:42 PM _unreal_: by default
10:44 PM _unreal_: I am regretting one decision on my daughters machine. I chose to use metal nuts for the drive nuts on the threads I should have gone HDPE