#linuxcnc Logs
Sep 12 2020
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:04 AM CaptHindsight: {HD}: which type of laser, what wavelength?
12:16 AM CaptHindsight: {HD}: 1500-2000W for CO2
01:54 AM XXCoder: JT-Shop: you really should be patreon for clickspring and watch Tools, Glorious Tools! #10 series
01:54 AM XXCoder: amazing
02:08 AM {HD}: captHindsight: I was looking at co2... 1500+ is too much.
02:16 AM XXCoder: what would 1500w laser be able to do?
02:16 AM XXCoder: cut inch thick metal?
02:36 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNcapGmzIOg
02:36 AM CaptHindsight: 130W Co2 Laser Machine Cutting Ability for 1.6mm &1.8mm Carbon Steel
02:36 AM CaptHindsight: ugly and slow
02:39 AM XXCoder: unsheilded. very safe
02:39 AM gloops: a lot of investment to be slower than plasma
02:40 AM XXCoder: sharper edges from what I see
02:40 AM CaptHindsight: 150W CO2 2mm SS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUEzUKovbUM
02:43 AM gloops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kN5iqVO67g
02:43 AM gloops: that one is quick
02:43 AM gloops: i cant get those sheets in the van though so didnt bother building one
02:47 AM CaptHindsight: all depends on how fast and how good you want to cut 12-16ga steel
02:53 AM XXCoder: high end
02:54 AM XXCoder: auto loader too
02:56 AM {HD}: my budget was about 5-6k so I don’t think i will get close in that range
04:10 AM gloops: wondering how much soundproofing 12mm drywall + a few inches of rockwool is going to achieve
04:11 AM gloops: intuition tells me - not a lot
04:11 AM XXCoder: offset your beams
04:11 AM XXCoder: so there is no solid crossing all way from one side to other
04:11 AM gloops: too late its done lol
04:11 AM XXCoder: too bad heh
04:11 AM XXCoder: just dont have sex in that room
04:12 AM gloops: ahh there isnt any crossing the full length, i made a box inside the box
04:12 AM XXCoder: record yourself speaking normally, go outside and try listen in
04:12 AM XXCoder: add shouting section too
04:12 AM gloops: there isnt room to have sex in that room lol
04:13 AM gloops: just want to dull some of the higher notes the router makes
04:13 AM XXCoder: not even against wall vertical thing? heh
04:13 AM gloops: not with my back
04:13 AM XXCoder: lol
05:09 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:09 AM XXCoder: JT-Shop: you really should be patreon for clickspring and watch Tools, Glorious Tools! #10 series
05:10 AM XXCoder: it has much to do with lathe, but also toolmaking
05:23 AM JT-Cave: got a link?
05:24 AM XXCoder: sure a second
05:24 AM XXCoder: https://www.patreon.com/clickspring/posts
05:24 AM XXCoder: im at $3 tier
05:25 AM XXCoder: $1 monthly is minium for watching those special videos
05:58 AM Tom_L: morning
05:58 AM XXCoder: yo
05:58 AM JT-Cave: yo
06:02 AM _unreal_: yawn
06:02 AM _unreal_: I am not awake becuase I wqant to be
06:02 AM _unreal_: had to pee so bad
06:10 AM JT-Cave: upgraded the docs and now they are not on the menu :(
06:10 AM XXCoder: :(
06:11 AM Deejay: moin
06:27 AM _unreal_: I'm working on designing more of my daughters main holder mount for her little cnc machine
06:28 AM _unreal_: the more I think about it I think I'm just going to design it FOR the spindle and make it so that the spindle is detachable VIA screws and the other adapters like a PEN/PROBE adapters can just be swopped in again with screws
06:29 AM gloops: hmm, first run of router not cutting, homing spindle on etc, 12mm dry lining DID make some difference
06:29 AM _unreal_: dry lining?
06:29 AM gloops: plasterboard, for soundproofing
06:30 AM _unreal_: hum
06:30 AM _unreal_: I need to sound dampen my machine BUT... its a small machine sitting in my bed room that is already cramped heh.
06:30 AM gloops: 12mm plasterboard + a few inch of rockwool, all the walls and ceiling
06:30 AM XXCoder: quieter eh
06:30 AM gloops: skimmed the joints to seal it
06:31 AM XXCoder: you can always add egg foam to insides
06:31 AM gloops: so far it seems so XXCoder
06:31 AM gloops: will do a cut in a bit - thats when the real noise starts lol
06:31 AM _unreal_: if you add egg foam. I suggest using a spray tack or a spray foam like fast foam 77 and lay 1.5mill plastic over the foam. to keep the dust from getting into the foam
06:32 AM XXCoder: :)
06:32 AM gloops: well ill see how this goes, might be good enough as is
06:32 AM _unreal_: infact fast foam 77 is IDEAL for lining egg foam sheets on the inside
06:32 AM _unreal_: or out side
06:32 AM gloops: not bothered about totally quiet, just wanted to damp the high notes down a bit
06:32 AM _unreal_: heheheh
06:32 AM XXCoder: you could be able to build surface for router
06:32 AM _unreal_: oh you mean the EEEEEEEEEEEEE
06:33 AM XXCoder: hard surface, layer of sand, then hard surface again
06:33 AM _unreal_: THE HIGH eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
06:33 AM gloops: _unreal_ yeah theyre the notes that carry lol
06:33 AM XXCoder: though its easier and cheaper to buy rubber that doesnt bounce
06:33 AM XXCoder: like puck
06:33 AM XXCoder: (real ones not cheap plastic crap)
06:34 AM gloops: i have got access to some rubber conveyor belt about half inch thick, heavy though
06:34 AM gloops: thought of lining it with that
06:35 AM XXCoder: not bad
06:36 AM _unreal_: free is good but sounds like a lot more work
06:36 AM gloops: yeah, it would be i reckon
06:36 AM _unreal_: are you talking about using that as machine foot dampening
06:36 AM _unreal_: or are you talking about walls
06:36 AM gloops: reading the web advice plasterboard is the common option, cheap and fairly dense, easy to work with
06:37 AM gloops: i was going to line the whole room with rubber belt lol
06:37 AM _unreal_: room?
06:37 AM gloops: a rubber cell, about right for me
06:37 AM _unreal_: good lord
06:37 AM _unreal_: now your talking crazy
06:37 AM _unreal_: lol
06:37 AM XXCoder: i bet egg foam would work better
06:38 AM _unreal_: much
06:38 AM XXCoder: its pretty close to sound canceling foam so it should stop most sounds
06:38 AM gloops: yeah put partition walls around the router, boarded it all
06:38 AM _unreal_: the large thin bed egg coverings are cheap
06:38 AM _unreal_: if your looking to sound dampen the room
06:39 AM gloops: a room within a room
06:39 AM _unreal_: good lord I keep ripping nasty one's
06:39 AM _unreal_: blaaaa
06:41 AM _unreal_: heh I'm still waiting for t4nk_freenode to post a photo of progress
06:42 AM gloops: whats he making?
06:42 AM _unreal_: he got or claims he got a 3d printer
06:42 AM _unreal_: wants a cnc machine hehe WONT buy one wants to build it. buys a 3d printer LOL at least
06:42 AM gloops: think he made a playstation pad work as a jog stick with linuxcnc couple of years ago
06:43 AM _unreal_: last I knew he's making a drill press to use a corded drill?
06:43 AM gloops: if its the same person heh
06:44 AM _unreal_: dont know dont think so
06:44 AM _unreal_: I'm rather sure its not
06:44 AM gloops: cant remember now, he was called tank though
06:46 AM _unreal_: I've got a few project to work on but I'm focusing on my daughters right now.
06:47 AM _unreal_: an other aspect is I want to use a uC or need to rather to control two small 12v lights. they are indicator lights for good to go and stopped
06:47 AM _unreal_: they are 12v.
06:47 AM _unreal_: and the arduino uno is a bit sensitive to any kind of signal on ground.
06:50 AM gloops: hmm, ive never even looked at arduino
06:55 AM _unreal_: really?
06:55 AM _unreal_: I assume you dont do much with micro controllers in general then
07:07 AM gloops: no, only made one cnc machine, somehow got it working with a lot of help heh, had plans to make more but not got round to it
07:59 AM gloops: conclusion - was it worth dry lining the router - yes
07:59 AM gloops: did it stop all the noise - no
08:20 AM * Loetmichel walks in the kitchen, puts a mug under the Saeco machin *button press* *RUUUIIIIIIIII* *clackclack* *clackclack* *miiiieeerrrrk* *prrrrrrr* *prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* *miiiiiiiifubb* ... adding caramel syrup, adding milk... *sip* "aahh, guuuuud!"
10:31 AM jymmmm: Morning
10:36 AM Tom_L: jymmmm, sky clear enough to tell it is?
10:36 AM jymmmm: XXCoder: Still getting access denied? Here's a filter for ya, 5" thick... https://www.lowes.com/pd/BestAir-MERV-11-Common-25-in-x-20-in-x-5-in-Actual-24-25-in-x-19-75-in-x-4-875-in-Pleated-Air-Filter/50223041
10:37 AM jymmmm: Tom_L: Today, yes. a few days ago, just dark orange and black, was very scary, everyone was on edge, a few evacuated because they lost everything in Campfire 2018.
10:39 AM jymmmm: Tom_L: Still smokey, ash still falling, and colder than it should be
10:40 AM jymmmm: Tom_L: That it turns so cold during a wildfire, feels very apocalyptic
10:41 AM jymmmm: 30 to 40f degree drop
10:58 AM jymmmm: quiet in here this morning
11:31 AM gloops: next weeks project, one of them, make a small vacuum chamber with wood
11:33 AM gloops: tested a fridge compressor - enough suck to de-gas water, need a useable chamber to take about a litre of silicon or resin
11:33 AM gloops: which im assuming degas at the same vacuum
11:36 AM jymmmm: gloops: vacuum hold down table?
11:37 AM gloops: no, just for getting the gas out of silicon to make moulds
11:37 AM jymmmm: gloops: oh ok
11:37 AM gloops: (avoids bubbles when it cures)
11:38 AM jymmmm: Right, make it tall to when it boils over the edges you can catch most of it
11:38 AM gloops: lol, probably a good idea
11:40 AM jymmmm: gloops: how big will it be?
11:41 AM jymmmm: gloops: are you going to use MDF (I would)?
11:42 AM gloops: i want to use the disposable plastic measuring cups they sell for mixing, hold about a pint i think with some room spare at the top, probably be about 10 inch high, ive got a glass door with a rubber seal in a metal frame im going to incorporat
11:43 AM gloops: doing it for nothing - probably end up buying a proper pump and chamber but we have to go through this ritual of penny pinching first i guess
11:43 AM jymmmm: Nothing wrong with that
11:44 AM gloops: test the fridge pump in a jar with water in, it boils the water up anyway, so might work
11:45 AM jymmmm: MAny ppl have repurposed frig compressrs for lots of things, they are good lil pumps
11:45 AM gloops: a bit slow but quiet at least, and doesnt cost anything to play
11:47 AM jymmmm: Yeah, what did you use to connect extra tubing to it? pic??
11:48 AM gloops: just some thick wall rubber tube, fitted the copper pipe i sawed off - not got pics, ill take some when its set up
11:49 AM Tom_L: gloops, upper management keep a thumb on you too :)
11:49 AM gloops: made a hole in a jar lid, forced a rubber bung in from a wine making jar, forced the other end of the tube into the hole in the bung
11:49 AM gloops: yeah ill get it done shes back at work monday Tom_L heh
11:50 AM gloops: (when)
11:50 AM gloops: anyway bbl
01:41 PM _unreal_: There I think I have finished doing my cad drawings for my daughters new adapters for her little cnc machine
01:41 PM _unreal_: the only part I have not built/designed is the @#$#$ pen holder. BUT I had to build in cad the spindle first because I want all the parts to be more or less on center to each other
02:11 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: CaptHindsight The silicone is working so far =) No loose/rattling screws/grill
02:20 PM CaptHindsight: told yuh
02:51 PM Tom_L: quiet day
03:03 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, it was till you interrupted it
03:03 PM _unreal_: ;)
03:10 PM Deejay: gn8
03:10 PM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: you told me to get larger screws, tig weld on presion press fit nuts, and use a granite plate to check flatness, basically $40,000 to fix a fan grill from being noisey
03:10 PM Tom_L: but it would work
03:10 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: lol,, but he's not willing to pick up the $40K bill for over engineering it all
03:12 PM jymmmm: or.... use $0.34 worth of silicone
03:13 PM CaptHindsight: won't work just ask the nay sayers
03:13 PM _unreal_: My daughters cnc macine is really coming along
03:13 PM jymmmm: But if anyone needs some SS sheet, goto the back of any appliance store and you can get it for free, as they have to pay to dispose of old appliances.
03:13 PM CaptHindsight: silicone is responsible for fake breasts, abortions and waterproofing
03:15 PM jymmmm: abortions?
03:16 PM CaptHindsight: what i hear
03:17 PM jymmmm: no clue
03:18 PM CaptHindsight: some kind of plot by the libs to undermine
03:19 PM CaptHindsight: jymmmm: I now state facts along with conspiracy theories to save time
03:20 PM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: ah ok, So if you can't dazzle them with brillance, you'll just baffle them with bullshit instead?
03:20 PM CaptHindsight: all things to everyone
03:21 PM * jymmmm put on his waders and grabs the backhoe, cause it's starting to get awful deep in here.
03:22 PM CaptHindsight: i always liked the word baffle, almost sounds like a food or snack item
03:22 PM CaptHindsight: filled full of odd shaped and flavored snacks
03:23 PM CaptHindsight: wut is it, dunno
03:23 PM jymmmm: lol
03:25 PM _unreal_: wow I just fucked with my own head bad
03:25 PM _unreal_: i'm putting together JST connectors 1x4's
03:25 PM _unreal_: and some how I grabbed a 4 and a 5
03:25 PM _unreal_: the pinout is grd, sig, grd, sig, grd, sig, grd
03:25 PM _unreal_: I kept icomming up with an extra and going wohh wohhh wohh wohh wohhh wtf
03:26 PM _unreal_: four grounds four signals
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04:34 PM JT-Cave is now known as jthornton
04:45 PM XXCoder: jymmmm: way to go
04:47 PM JT-Shop: yea my parts are done machining
04:47 PM Tom_L: for the spoke machine?
04:53 PM JT-Shop: yea, making a custom turnbuckle like thing to attach the hopper frame to the machine
04:54 PM andypugh: Today, a spanner of unusual design: https://photos.app.goo.gl/e7t3B8Jg24EDbH297 (ERX collet, two different sizes on different sides of the spanner)
04:55 PM CaptHindsight: good idea
04:56 PM XXCoder: JT-Shop: yellow skies here
04:56 PM XXCoder: quality of air went way down
04:56 PM Tom_L: andypugh, why so many spanners lately?
04:56 PM JT-Shop: darn
04:56 PM Tom_L: mini ones yesterday...
04:56 PM JT-Shop: andypugh, looks nice
04:56 PM XXCoder: 175 yeah was 151
04:57 PM XXCoder: good thing i made air filter box yeserday!
04:57 PM CaptHindsight: we have near perfect air here, all this rain has flushed it all out
04:57 PM andypugh: Tom_L: I don’t know, it is complete coincidence.
04:57 PM XXCoder: send some over please lol
05:01 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.airnow.gov/?city=Marengo&state=IL&country=USA
05:01 PM XXCoder: my sis is at 327
05:02 PM XXCoder: that site says tacoma is at 196
05:02 PM CaptHindsight: ~20 now
05:04 PM skunkworks: andypugh: is that on thingaverse? ;)
05:05 PM andypugh: It easily could be.
05:05 PM skunkworks: we just bored a 4 inch hole though 14 inches of concrete..
05:05 PM andypugh: But it’s only useful if you have ERX15 and ERX20 collet chucks.
05:05 PM Tom_L: fun
05:06 PM Tom_L: skunkworks, http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/patio/patio5.jpg
05:06 PM Tom_L: and down another 2.5'
05:07 PM skunkworks: we went deeper... ;)
05:07 PM skunkworks: how big around?
05:07 PM Tom_L: 12" iirc
05:07 PM skunkworks: core drills are nice.
05:07 PM skunkworks: the 4 inch one - you can feel it moving forward
05:07 PM Tom_L: neighbor works for a construction co
05:07 PM Tom_L: he just borrowed it
05:08 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/patio/patio21.jpg
05:08 PM skunkworks: neat!
05:08 PM Tom_L: I beam in the middle
05:09 PM Tom_L: not in place there
05:13 PM centreline: Hi all, I wonder if anyone can answer some quick dumb questions around a mesa combo. I have a 5i25 connected to a 7i76, I have the 5v jumpers set to supply 5v from the 5i25 to the 7i96 and same jumper settings on 7i96. Field power on 7i76 is connected to a 24vdc supply. Both 5v and field power leds are lit. Ive used mesaflash to put 5i25_7i96x2.bit on the 5i25. Now the questions, which physical port should I be using to
05:13 PM centreline: link up the 5i25 to the single 7i96?
05:14 PM Tom_L: the first one
05:15 PM JT-Shop: I assume you mean 7i76 everytime you say 7i96?
05:15 PM centreline: yeah sorry typo
05:15 PM CaptHindsight: centreline: you mean which header on the 5i25?
05:15 PM centreline: which is the first port though? the internal idc header, or the D connector on the rear of the card?
05:16 PM JT-Shop: understand
05:16 PM centreline: I read the manual and it says p2 is the idc connected header, so I went with that.
05:16 PM Tom_L: more than likely it is labelled on the board
05:16 PM centreline: I'm querying this because I cant see a pin change state when I wired it up after running through it in pncconf...
05:17 PM XXCoder: steel 8ball https://youtu.be/KKiHgBhW8UQ
05:17 PM JT-Shop: it should work with either connecter if you flashed it with 5i25_7i76x2.bit but normally you use the DB25 connector
05:17 PM CaptHindsight: centreline: you need to configure a HAL file as well
05:17 PM centreline: doesnt pncconf do that?
05:17 PM CaptHindsight: tie signals to physical pins on the headers
05:18 PM CaptHindsight: it can do some of it
05:18 PM centreline: so theres no way to look in hal meter to see the pin direct at tb6 position 5 for example without it being linked up to a signal?
05:20 PM CaptHindsight: I'm on my way out, post your hal file in it's current state
05:20 PM centreline: I need to go back outside the shop and connect from there on my laptop before asking more questions I think...
05:20 PM CaptHindsight: to pastebin
05:20 PM CaptHindsight: yes you need to link signals to pins
05:21 PM centreline: let me go out now and look if its obvious now you say that
05:21 PM CaptHindsight: we don't know how you got your HAL file to the state that is in but he wizzes here should be able to help with this
05:21 PM CaptHindsight: he/the
05:22 PM XXCoder: wow 8 part is complex heh (that video)
05:23 PM XXCoder: wow weird sphere milling setup
05:24 PM XXCoder: cant argue with result however, look good
05:26 PM CaptHindsight: XXCoder: have a link?
05:26 PM CaptHindsight: the 8ball ^^
05:26 PM XXCoder: i linked to it already
05:26 PM Tom_L: above
05:29 PM CaptHindsight: kinds cheated there when he filed off the stub
05:29 PM CaptHindsight: i wonder how round it is
05:31 PM Centreline: pastebin of my current .hal file https://pastebin.com/FwvsghJj
05:32 PM Centreline: I have field power wired to a switch that goes off to tb6 pins 4 5 and 6 to test, I thought I could just see it on hal meter by watching the hme pins
05:33 PM Centreline: ie by watching directly hm2_5i25.0.gpio.004.in using hal meter
05:38 PM XXCoder: capt other than that spot pretty damn round
05:43 PM Centreline: mesaflash --readhmid output https://pastebin.com/DuAU8fjh
05:43 PM jthornton: hm2_5i25.0.gpio.004.in is not even in your hal file
05:44 PM jthornton: readhmid looks normal to me
05:44 PM jthornton: Centreline, what GUI are you using?
05:45 PM Centreline: so it needs to be in the halfile before it shows in hal meter?
05:45 PM jthornton: no it should show up in halshow if it's defined
05:45 PM Centreline: this is just axis for now, I'm migrating a double parport machine
05:45 PM jthornton: and the watch window will show the state of the pin
05:46 PM jthornton: axis is good and solid to get started with
05:46 PM Centreline: so I can select the pin hm2_5i25.0.gpio.004.in using hal meter, but nothing changes state when the button is pressed
05:47 PM Centreline: is that because its not yet defined in hal?
05:47 PM jthornton: I always use Show Hal Configuration in Axis
05:47 PM jthornton: no
05:47 PM Tom_L: .004 is assigned to the direction pin of chan2
05:47 PM Tom_L: it's not gpio
05:48 PM jthornton: yea don't look at the gpio
05:48 PM jthornton: I missed that
05:49 PM jthornton: let me go look at the correct pin name on my plasma
05:49 PM Centreline: so without the pin added to the hal config, there's no way to see the state of that pin direct?
05:49 PM Centreline: ok thanks
05:50 PM Centreline: by pin I mean the actual electrical connection on that terminal, not a hal pin, probably a terrible way to describe it
05:51 PM pcw_home: hm2_5i25.0.gpio.004.in is not a useful hal pin for a 7I76/7I77
05:51 PM Centreline: ok, I was assuming it mapped to the gpio pins, wrongly
05:52 PM pcw_home: on a 7i76 its going to be something like hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.inputxxxx
05:54 PM Centreline: I have no hm2_5i25.0.7i76 entries at all, I must have messed up in pncconf
05:55 PM jthornton: https://dpaste.com/EUA4G9FKR
05:55 PM jthornton: 7i76 I/O pins
05:55 PM jthornton: maybe your field power is not wired correctly
05:59 PM Centreline: thanks for that, I used this as a basic wiring guide http://www.cnctablebuild.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/20130910-140314.jpg
05:59 PM Centreline: the field power led is lit also and I'm measuring 24v on the wire into the switch that I have connected the port, but I'm not loading the 7i76 itself somehow in the config
06:01 PM jthornton: https://gnipsel.com/files/mesa/mesa-test.zip
06:01 PM jthornton: that should be a minimal mesa config
06:01 PM pcw_home: Does "halcmd show pin" show the 7I76 pins?
06:02 PM pcw_home: if not you, some possibilities are 1. wrong firmware on 5I25
06:02 PM pcw_home: 2. no 5V on 7I76
06:02 PM pcw_home: 3. sserial disabled in hal file
06:02 PM jthornton: you can do that?
06:03 PM pcw_home: yes sserial_port_0=XXXX
06:04 PM jthornton: ah the first X instead of a 0
06:04 PM Centreline: the 5v led is lit on the 7i76 and its powered from the 5i25, wrong firmware is a possible as I was using two china bobs and own bitfile until I got frustrated with them but I reflashed with 5i25_7i76x2
06:05 PM jthornton: pcw_home, his hal file https://pastebin.com/FwvsghJj
06:05 PM pcw_home: since it sounds like you can launch LinuxCNC, do the pins show up with halcmd?
06:07 PM Centreline: To be 100% sure mesaflash here https://pastebin.com/0Q5nUrds
06:07 PM Centreline: no there is no 7i76 pins in hal at all
06:07 PM Centreline: Im loading 7i76x2 firmware, but I only have a single 7i76 connected to be clear also
06:08 PM pcw_home: did you power cycle or use the reload command after flashing the 5I25?
06:08 PM Centreline: Ive tried both
06:08 PM Centreline: Im on the machine now but I can reboot if its needed
06:08 PM pcw_home: so halcmd show pin doesn't show any 7I76 pins?
06:09 PM pcw_home: (note that reboot will _not_ reload firmware, only power cycle or reload command)
06:09 PM Centreline: no, the 7i76 is connected on the idc cable header port also
06:09 PM pcw_home: OK that will not work
06:10 PM Centreline: Ive turned it off cold several times in the process for cold boot but I'll repeat if its the likely culprit
06:10 PM jthornton: first one has to be on the DB25 connector?
06:10 PM pcw_home: unless you use a "R" firmware that swaps the connectors
06:10 PM Centreline: it does?
06:10 PM Centreline: I can move it easy if so, that could be the mistake
06:11 PM pcw_home: note: Never swap cables with power on
06:11 PM Centreline: Ill connect on my laptop to irc so I can cut power to move the plug
06:11 PM Centreline: brb
06:12 PM jthornton: I wondered what the 5i25_7i76x2r.bit was for... now I know
06:13 PM jthornton: pcw_home, are you guys affected by the fires any?
06:21 PM pcw_home: Just by smoke
06:21 PM pcw_home: Wednesday at 9 AM it looked like midnight (a weird orange midnight)
06:22 PM Centreline: ok, thats done after setting the 5v jumper for the d connector port too and now linuxcnc wont start so some things have changed
06:33 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: 2011... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH5APw_SLUU
06:42 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: 2400 CFM DIY filter... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fixd7LqnWow
06:48 PM Centreline: ok I have 5i25.0.7i96 pins in hal and I can see my switch changing state on hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.input-04 now. Thanks!
06:51 PM pcw_home: You can use the header but this is easiest with the "R" firmware that swaps connectors
06:52 PM Centreline: I dont have a preference because I had a d terminator on the idc anyway, I'd just made the assumption that because it was denoted connecter 2 and the d shell was connector 3, it would be the primary
06:53 PM Centreline: but assumptions, they make a ass of u :D plus I had no idea what the pins should be until you people cleared that up :)
06:55 PM Centreline: well they made a ass of me rather, but I was quoting the original saying
06:56 PM Centreline: but tl,dr; is its working and I can bash the original parport hal files about now I know pin names and have a working config to reference, thanks!
07:02 PM Centreline: its 1am I think its safer if I dont work on this more tonight and I dont have my psu out here for laptop, so I best go sleep, sorry to cut and run as soon as you helped me out , but thanks again, Ive been stuck on that for hours.
07:08 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: I'm wanting to make an water based air filter, instead of using mechanical filters.
07:11 PM Tom_L: oil bath air cleaners were common at one point in time
07:12 PM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/VTG-VW-BUG-AIR-CLEANER-oil-bath-air-filter/133092957781?hash=item1efcf55e55:g:SakAAOSwPYJdDwSV
07:13 PM Tom_L: also, water filtration canister vacuum cleaner
07:14 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: the onlt thing is that I'd be using a cheap fan, not anything with some suckage to it
07:16 PM jymmmm: Hmmm... Did an oil change on the generator using Full synthetic adding 20 ounces.. ran for 28.4 hours, just drained it and it used up 4 ounces of oil.
07:17 PM Tom_L: what did it have prior?
07:18 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: I was kinda thinking using a 5gal bucket something like a bong
07:18 PM Tom_L: yeah, possibly some mesh in it to help
07:18 PM jymmmm: I used dino before switching to full syn. 5W-30 in both cases, I just never measured the consumptuon before
07:21 PM jymmmm:
07:29 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: I was almost thinking of placing a sponge on the bottom of the bucket, but then it might fill up with gunk/mold/alge
07:30 PM Tom_L: crappy air filter might be better
07:31 PM Tom_L: like the woven mesh stuff
07:32 PM jymmmm: It was an alternative to a mech filter, just empty the water and your done
07:32 PM Tom_L: k
07:33 PM jymmmm: they had these water based air filters at the banks in 2018, but I didn't get a close look at them nor get the name of them. they were portable, quiet, and did a nice job.
07:38 PM JavaBean: jymmmm: are you sure that they weren't "swampcoolers"/"evaporative coolers"?? the portable ones on low can do something similar
07:39 PM jymmmm: JavaBean: they weren't, This was during wildfires and lots of ash/smoke in the air then too.
07:39 PM JavaBean: hmmm
07:40 PM jymmmm: no velocity to them either
07:40 PM jymmmm: but as soon as you walked into the bank, it was much easier to breath
07:41 PM jymmmm: and a few banks had them in their lobbies
07:43 PM Tom_L: dyson air purifier?
07:52 PM XXCoder: jymmmm: possible
07:52 PM XXCoder: would you use something to filter water then reuse water?
07:53 PM JavaBean: meh, i need to hurry up and build "mine"... end up with lots of "bad" air in here
07:53 PM XXCoder: also, there IS solution for gunk and such. look into water fountain chemicals to stop algae since it constantly has water
08:00 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: replace the water
08:00 PM jymmmm: DIY dust collector, looks pretty good too... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WnitgYFnE0
08:03 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: kinda, but more DIY
08:11 PM roycroft: i spent some time today scouting out materials to upgrade my dust collection system
08:11 PM roycroft: i had to wait for some glue to dry, so i killed time doing that
08:11 PM roycroft: sadly, i can't find what i need locally
08:11 PM roycroft: and while i can find the parts online fairly inexpensively, shipping is obscene on them
08:12 PM roycroft: so i'm not sure what i'm going to do
08:15 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: Tom_L MAybe... https://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-portable-ventilator-97762.html
08:20 PM XXCoder: interesting.
08:20 PM XXCoder: with really powerful filter setup it would sure clean house air very fast lol
08:42 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: Yeah, i think that fan would be strong enough to use water instead of a mech filter
08:42 PM XXCoder: yeah that;d be likely
08:42 PM XXCoder: i had big power vacuum that was pretty strong
08:43 PM XXCoder: that thing probably can draw air though foot of water
08:43 PM jymmmm: I have a dust collector, it ha a lot of velocity, but I think would need more volume
08:44 PM XXCoder: you probably want to add a dial to control power lol so water is "boiling" rather than being suck though fan
08:45 PM jymmmm: Yeah, I just haven't figured out the "seperation" aspects yet
08:46 PM XXCoder: you probably want a mesh to ensure water stays together
08:46 PM XXCoder: also to break up air bubbles to clean air inside it
08:46 PM jymmmm: It's just gotta be like a bong, but 6 to 8" version
08:47 PM Tom_L: so a party bong
08:47 PM XXCoder: lol
08:47 PM jymmmm: 32gal plastic trash can and a 5gal bucket
08:48 PM XXCoder: you want another bucket thats inch smaller in diameter to that bin
08:49 PM XXCoder: you want ait intake to be forced into small space then turn around, go though mesh in water then out
08:49 PM jymmmm: Maybe use a few 4" pvc pipes
08:49 PM XXCoder: you probably want sloping cover to deflect water drops back down to water
08:50 PM jymmmm: cut holes in the trash can, use the 4" pipes for air intake angled down and into the water, then place a 20" round fan on top of the trashcan
08:50 PM XXCoder: let me draw
08:50 PM jymmmm: So actually, maybe tom is right, a party bong with 8 pipes for intake
08:51 PM jymmmm: 6" of water on the bottom of the trach can
08:54 PM jymmmm: Hey, here we go... https://www.homedepot.com/p/FLEX-Drain-Pro-4-in-x-10-ft-HDPE-Solid-Drain-Pipe-HP410S/308642420
08:56 PM XXCoder: https://i.imgur.com/FfnBOG6.png
08:57 PM XXCoder: thats essentally how big power works
08:57 PM XXCoder: water is actually 2 inch or so and bigger bin diameter but thats roughly how it works anyway
09:02 PM jymmmm: oil remover using shop vac... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk46vCOGTFI
09:02 PM XXCoder: jy was my duagram clear enough? lol
09:03 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: I believe so, thank you
09:03 PM XXCoder: no problem.
09:03 PM jymmmm: what is "big power" ?
09:03 PM XXCoder: note big power is actually bit more complex with another set of flanges to keep water retained but eh
09:03 PM XXCoder: oh stiupid expensive water vacuum
09:03 PM XXCoder: i bought one to rise my credit rating, worked.
09:03 PM jymmmm: ah
09:06 PM XXCoder: oil change thing interesting
09:07 PM XXCoder: inner bin also has legs so it dont just hit bottom heh
09:07 PM XXCoder: forgot to say that
09:07 PM jymmmm: ah
09:23 PM * JavaBean starts trying to howl his laughter as he realizes that someone else from his area is in chat
10:00 PM _unreal_: so got a bunch of parts of my daughters machine working. and got it up into location on her desk.
10:00 PM _unreal_: been giving it run time tests burn in tests
10:00 PM _unreal_: I have ONE @#$#@$@ HUM from the x axis that I cant for the life of me figure out what is causing it
10:00 PM _unreal_: other then that its all mostly up and working
10:01 PM _unreal_: tomorrow Im going to start to mill out the final parts to make her pen holder
10:01 PM _unreal_: I designed a combo pen holder/spindle holder. and maybe future laser holder
10:01 PM _unreal_: her machine has about a 6"x6" work area
10:06 PM _unreal_: the main thing for now is I'm also building a pen holder. I have a few micro liner recirculating rails. MICRO ones. and I'm going to use one of them. Its way longer then I need but I'm going to use it as the holder for the pen. I am also going to set it up so that she could use a PEN or use a special rod. as a touch prob.
10:06 PM _unreal_: that will be interesting using the prob.
10:07 PM _unreal_: going to put a limit switch and a spring. so that IF she is using the pen it will keep constant pressure using a pen. if she is using the touch prob. it will have the ablity to touch test.
10:07 PM _unreal_: should be interesting
10:28 PM JavaBean: hah, _unreal_... be careful, she might start having that device accept the EULA's and TOS's and what not... might have issues doing captcha's on its own tho