#linuxcnc Logs
Aug 18 2020
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:53 AM miss0r: morning
01:07 AM CaptHindsight: miss0r: heat wave yet again this year?
01:07 AM miss0r: yup
01:07 AM miss0r: and how do I choose to celebrate it? The flue
01:07 AM miss0r: flu*
01:08 AM * miss0r has to go for a corona virus test in a few hours, just to make sure
01:08 AM CaptHindsight: oh no!
01:08 AM CaptHindsight: i had it very early on
01:09 AM XXCoder: ow hope youre ojk
01:09 AM XXCoder: CaptHindsight: seems yours was pretty tame?
01:09 AM CaptHindsight: yeah mostly tired and throat tickle, cough for a few weeks
01:10 AM CaptHindsight: slept >12 hours a day
01:10 AM XXCoder: thankfully. small percentage its pretty lot worse than that
01:10 AM CaptHindsight: a friend have a fever at work today, they test when you show up, sent home and for test
01:11 AM CaptHindsight: can't come back until the results are in
01:11 AM miss0r: I am coughing mugus like a mad man and have 38.0c feaver
01:11 AM miss0r: 38.9*
01:11 AM CaptHindsight: saw some friends over the weekend, they had the foot and toe inflammation
01:12 AM CaptHindsight: was like bites from the ankles to toes and swelling
01:12 AM XXCoder: from what?
01:12 AM CaptHindsight: their flu symptoms
01:13 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-toes-frostbite-coronavirus-skin-lesion-discolored-swollen-feet-2020-4
01:13 AM XXCoder: covid does do strange stuff
01:13 AM XXCoder: its not flu or cold like morons say
01:14 AM CaptHindsight: i only know one person that ended up in the ICU but she recovered
01:14 AM miss0r: fingers crossed i'm not with the covid
01:14 AM miss0r: Then I have to home isulate for 14 days
01:15 AM XXCoder: and if it is, hopefully you will have minor one
01:15 AM CaptHindsight: my cough came back today
01:15 AM miss0r: and I just got back from a 3 week vacation.
01:15 AM CaptHindsight: hope it's just fatigue and allergy
01:15 AM CaptHindsight: 1-2 hours sleep last night
01:15 AM miss0r: severity of symptoms apart... I'm a one man operation. I am starting to stretch it here
01:16 AM CaptHindsight: I've been using the supplied air respirator even when around solvents lately just in case
01:16 AM CaptHindsight: don't need to aggravate any possible re-infection
01:17 AM miss0r: back in the beginning of this covis pandemic, a client of mine asked what precations i was taking not to potentiallt spread the virus between all the shops I visit. I told him I stopped french kissing the machinists upon arrival..
01:17 AM XXCoder: capt so far vaccine seem to work really strongly, while infection dont always build a strong immunity
01:18 AM miss0r: He couldn't stop laughing of the mental picture of a 120kgs man with a full beard doing that to the poor machinists. So he said I could come anyway :)
01:18 AM XXCoder: so it seems its better to get vaccinated
01:18 AM CaptHindsight: miss0r: I've been practicing that for a long time :p
01:18 AM CaptHindsight: especially no tongue
01:18 AM miss0r: CaptHindsight: The refraining part or the doing so? :D
01:19 AM CaptHindsight: Please don't kiss the machinist
01:19 AM XXCoder: please do not feed machinists
01:19 AM CaptHindsight: welders are worse
01:20 AM miss0r: I used a danish slang term "snave dem i gulvet" which directly translates to "french them to the ground"
01:20 AM CaptHindsight: I've been watching German TV lately...
01:20 AM miss0r: https://imgur.com/gallery/xhcr9
01:21 AM CaptHindsight: I am shocked at the polite behavior of suspects on their COPS "reality show"
01:21 AM miss0r: hehe
01:21 AM CaptHindsight: aha
01:21 AM miss0r: not all cops are as gung ho as the american counterpart
01:22 AM CaptHindsight: the police are polite even the criminals
01:22 AM CaptHindsight: police yell STOP, and they stop
01:23 AM miss0r: they are people too. even though they have choosen a path that takes them outside of what the soceity they are born into accepts
01:23 AM CaptHindsight: and apparently they can search your home without a warrant
01:23 AM miss0r: huh?
01:23 AM miss0r: Not in Denmark
01:23 AM miss0r: Unless you tell them that they can
01:23 AM CaptHindsight: knock knock, who is there?, Polizie ok come in I'll make coffee
01:24 AM miss0r: sure
01:24 AM CaptHindsight: seems that way but maybe if they just ask you say OK
01:24 AM miss0r: But I am fairly sure they'd need a search warrent to force them self inside
01:24 AM CaptHindsight: and people seem to there
01:24 AM CaptHindsight: have to ask Loetmichel
01:24 AM CaptHindsight: it's just so civil
01:25 AM miss0r: my brother in law started at the police academy a few months ago (after 10 years of miletary service)
01:25 AM miss0r: and I wrote them saying: Our future family gatherings will be a little odd from now on, seeing as you will have to sit outside my property and wait in your car, as I won't be able to let you in without a cort order.. but you understand that :D
01:26 AM CaptHindsight: same for the reality hospital show
01:26 AM CaptHindsight: heh
01:27 AM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: Q: IF I take a converter, bump up the fets and caps, would it work?
01:27 AM jymmmm: and heatsinks
01:28 AM CaptHindsight: see you , need sleep, jymmmm wwaaaaat?
01:28 AM miss0r: in theory yes. but theres one downfall of that idea
01:28 AM CaptHindsight: mostly just the heatsinks
01:28 AM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: I need a 60A converter, can't find it, so take an existing one and beef it up
01:28 AM jymmmm: miss0r: which is?
01:28 AM miss0r: Most "modern" inverters have a buildin power limiter, to protect it.
01:29 AM CaptHindsight: sure but my brain isborken right now
01:29 AM miss0r: you'd need to circumvent that as well
01:29 AM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: g;night
01:29 AM miss0r: g'nite
01:29 AM CaptHindsight: hasta banana
01:30 AM jymmmm: miss0r: Hmmm, well, I guess I'll just have to search around for hackable ones
01:30 AM miss0r: indeed. what is the application?
01:31 AM jymmmm: charger
01:31 AM miss0r: for what?
01:31 AM jymmmm: batteries
01:31 AM CaptHindsight: Dier Straben Cops, it's on RTL II right now
01:32 AM CaptHindsight: did you stab this person in the face?... yah, OK to the station
01:32 AM CaptHindsight: ok
01:32 AM miss0r: jymmmm: Its just when you say inverter, I automatically assume DC to AC
01:33 AM jymmmm: converter, you are reading it wrong =)
01:33 AM miss0r: meh :D
01:33 AM jymmmm: lol, it happens
01:33 AM miss0r: in that case I would just scratch build one
01:33 AM miss0r: using a sizeable transformer
01:34 AM jymmmm: with CC/CV/CUTOFF ?
01:34 AM jymmmm: oh no, gotta be switching
01:34 AM miss0r: theres alot of arduino projects for controlling that
01:35 AM miss0r: I have to run. I have to go get covid tested now. See you later
01:36 AM jymmmm: Eh, there are a lot of chips that o that too
01:36 AM CaptHindsight: good luck
03:31 AM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
04:01 AM Loetmichel: *phew* just knocked down a few overseas "euro pallet" boxes made of 16mm plywood... good thing i bought that 1kg hammer. wouldnt have been fun with the usual 300gr ones here ;)
05:05 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:55 AM Tom_L: morning
05:56 AM XXCoder: heys
06:15 AM XXCoder: https://youtu.be/6kgw6j9n_2o
06:15 AM XXCoder: interesting!
06:15 AM XXCoder: hair cutting steel
06:23 AM XXCoder: JT-Cave: finally found cheap stirling engines https://www.stirlingkit.com/collections/all-products
06:23 AM XXCoder: always wanted one
06:27 AM JT-Cave: I like the 16 cylinder
06:36 AM Deejay: hi
06:36 AM XXCoder: jt yeah
06:37 AM XXCoder: https://youtu.be/szIRyFukt4M?t=1942 interesting. it uses usual tools to drill and bore a slot, then it uses tool to basucally make square hole by moving in and out and not spinning tool
06:37 AM XXCoder: needs very strong machine I guess
06:40 AM JT-Cave: using it like a shaper would
06:40 AM XXCoder: thank you couldmt recall the word heh
06:40 AM XXCoder: pretty cool
06:43 AM XXCoder: most machines at my last work couldnt do shaping I guess, older machines
06:43 AM XXCoder: but few canm
06:46 AM XXCoder: i suspect it needs pretty specific usercase
06:47 AM XXCoder: smaller holes could just use broach
07:48 AM Centreline: Hi all, where can I get source/read up about making bitfiles for a 5i25? I have xilinx ise installed and checked out hostmot firmware repo, but comparing it to this page http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles it doesnt have the xise files mentioned.
08:00 AM Centreline: ah actually following the git repo instructions and ignoring the wiki page has started a compile off
09:55 AM Rab is now known as help
09:55 AM help is now known as Rab
09:55 AM Rab: Oops, no help parameter for that script I guess.
10:41 AM ziper: why are cnc cutters such good friends?
10:42 AM ziper: they always follow the g-code
10:45 AM skunkworks: knock knock
10:46 AM ziper: who's there
10:52 AM CaptHindsight: what is the minimum amount of time to wait after asking a question and leaving the channel?
10:53 AM skunkworks: oops
10:53 AM skunkworks: sorry
10:53 AM skunkworks: little old lady
10:56 AM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: 2.7564 seconds
11:03 AM JT-Cave: a New York second
11:04 AM skunkworks: little old lady who?
11:04 AM skunkworks: I didn't know you could yodel...
11:07 AM CaptHindsight: top shelf dad jokes
11:14 AM roycroft: capthindsight: 42
11:14 AM jymmmm: Hmmmm, fire season is upon us, 356 acres to the south, 145 acres to the east
11:14 AM roycroft: we have a huge fire up by the columbia river gorge
11:15 AM roycroft: and a record hurricane season
11:15 AM CaptHindsight: high only 75F and low humidity here today, one of the rare nice days
11:15 AM roycroft: so our president is stealing all the fema money to fund his illegal executive order to extend unemployment that no states want
11:16 AM roycroft: enjoy the burning
11:16 AM roycroft: because the feds won't help
11:16 AM CaptHindsight: jeneus
11:17 AM roycroft: i guess it doesn't matter for you anyway, because he withheld money for relief of the camp fire because california did not vote for him
11:17 AM roycroft: so it's no different than tht
11:18 AM CaptHindsight: good time to take notes on winning at any cost
11:18 AM CaptHindsight: in case you want to write a howto or make informational place mats
11:18 AM roycroft: and for those here who dislike "liberal" talk
11:18 AM roycroft: this has nothing to do with politics, liberal, conservative, or otherwise
11:18 AM roycroft: the whole point is that it's not about politics, but it's been made political by one person
11:19 AM roycroft: and i'll shut up about that now
11:20 AM CaptHindsight: it's part of the training to only accept news, discussion, thoughts, ideas etc from approved sources
11:20 AM roycroft: i'm hoping to actually start fitting pieces of my workbench together in a couple days
11:20 AM CaptHindsight: like a cult
11:21 AM CaptHindsight: ^^ how manipulation works, not about politics, but may be used for that as well
11:25 AM * JT-Shop hopes to get this panel done today
11:25 AM roycroft: it's a real problem with the internet in general, and social media in particular, capthindsight
11:26 AM roycroft: folks don't engage with their neighbors any more
11:26 AM roycroft: they go online and find like-minded people, and decide that their way of thinking is the only acceptable one
11:26 AM roycroft: which leads to the intense tribalism we're seeing now
11:27 AM roycroft: it's degenerated to the point that people aren't even looking for others who agree with them any more
11:27 AM roycroft: they are just looking for people who share a common enemy
11:27 AM CaptHindsight: it works, so it is used that way
11:28 AM roycroft: and as a result, we're not "for" anything any more
11:28 AM roycroft: we're just against the other side
11:28 AM roycroft: and our current president is not the cause of this at all
11:28 AM roycroft: he's the result of it
11:29 AM * roycroft is giving the appearance of getting political now, which he's really not, but decides to tone it down again
11:30 AM CaptHindsight: cult training gets its members to attack any info from outside the cult, or ignore it
11:31 AM CaptHindsight: you're not being political, just making observations
11:31 AM roycroft: well i dare to question the integrity and motives of dear leader
11:31 AM roycroft: some see that as political :)
11:32 AM Centurion-Dan2 is now known as Centurion_Dan
11:32 AM roycroft: anyway
11:32 AM roycroft: i hope this is not a conversation that we need to keep having going forward, but i'm not holding my breath waiting for things to improve
11:32 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/may/27/cults-definition-religion
11:32 AM CaptHindsight: check the list
11:32 AM roycroft: i've said this before
11:33 AM roycroft: while i'm not a big fan of religion, i'm also not against religion
11:33 AM roycroft: and i believe that the decline of religion in this country is in part what has made politics so tribal
11:33 AM roycroft: people are replacing their god cult with a political cult
11:34 AM CaptHindsight: similar but not used for religion
11:34 AM CaptHindsight: evil genius
11:40 AM CaptHindsight: went to a local brewery with outdoor seating over the weekend
11:40 AM CaptHindsight: they had a flanders red that was amazing in a pint glass size for $9
11:41 AM CaptHindsight: think they are running out of aging space
11:41 AM roycroft: that's a pretty big glass for a flanders red
11:41 AM CaptHindsight: yeah, why i was happy
11:41 AM roycroft: they usualy are served in 250ml gasses
11:41 AM roycroft: glasses
11:42 AM CaptHindsight: http://scorchedearthbrewing.com/tap-room the brewer is like a sour idiot savant
11:43 AM roycroft: that's near where my cousins live, or lived
11:43 AM roycroft: i haven't been in touch with them for decades
11:43 AM roycroft: but they live(d) in crystal lake
11:43 AM CaptHindsight: way out this way
11:44 AM CaptHindsight: civilizations still stops at around barrington
11:44 AM roycroft: if i'm honest, i barely remember that part of the world
11:45 AM CaptHindsight: still no expressway, but more houses
11:46 AM CaptHindsight: lots of facebrick in front, and army barrack appearance from the side and rear
11:46 AM CaptHindsight: cheap construction but looks upscale
11:47 AM CaptHindsight: and strip malls everywhere
11:50 AM roycroft: actually, my cousins live(d) in lake in the hills, not crystal lake
11:50 AM roycroft: all i remember is it was a tiny town in the middle of nowhere
11:51 AM CaptHindsight: no gap between them now
11:51 AM CaptHindsight: just cross the street to get to and from
11:52 AM roycroft: crystal lake and algonquin were the towns they had to go to to do shopping and stuff
11:52 AM roycroft: lake in the hills was all residential then
11:52 AM andypugh: Interesting that the web site assumes that you need to be 21 to drink beer. In the same way as the US assumes that you have to be 18 to have sex. (This has become very obvious in the furore about Prince Andrew allegedly sleeping with a 17 year old. That’s creepy but legal in the UK.)
11:53 AM roycroft: those legal disclaimers are odd
11:53 AM CaptHindsight: andypugh: i see the same on EU liquor sites
11:53 AM roycroft: i've never understood why they're put up
11:53 AM roycroft: the are utterly meaningless
11:53 AM roycroft: inaccurate in some jurisdictions, as you point out
11:53 AM CaptHindsight: but maybe "Are you old enough to drink legally in your country" vs just 21+
11:53 AM roycroft: and if i'm 12, nothing will stop me from clicking "enter"
11:54 AM roycroft: and no harm will come to me if i do
11:54 AM roycroft: it's not like when i click "enter" a bottle of beer will magically appear before me
11:54 AM andypugh: CaptHindsight: Examples? I just looked at Virgin Wines and Black Sheep Brewery and there was no entrance filter.
11:54 AM CaptHindsight: does for me :)
11:55 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.ardbeg.com/en-int
11:56 AM CaptHindsight: speaking of Ardbeg, i still haven't tried the new 5 year
11:57 AM andypugh: I can’t be bothered, but it would be interesting to see if the Ardbeg site has a database of legal whisky drinking age in each country.
11:57 AM andypugh: Some places have different limits for beer, wine and spirits.
11:57 AM CaptHindsight: we are still pretty puritanical here
11:58 AM CaptHindsight: laws framed around superstitions and invisible angry sky man
11:59 AM andypugh: OK, I just told Ardbeg that I was 20 and in the US and it wouldn’t let me in, then I claimed to be born in 1999 and it let me in. Dedspite the fact that I think you can be born in 1999 and not 21 yet?
11:59 AM CaptHindsight: i see nothing
12:00 PM CaptHindsight: don't make me an accomplice :)
12:01 PM CaptHindsight: most bars here will have some clearly visible sign that states that you must be born before this date in "1999"
12:02 PM CaptHindsight: some bars leave the same sign up for a few years
12:03 PM CaptHindsight: and the police do use 20 year olds to go in a try to order drinks
12:06 PM CaptHindsight: at least in Chicago, now that that shooting problem has been solved :p
12:13 PM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: have to ask, is Dier Straben Cops for real? The criminals are so polite
12:59 PM rmu: CaptHindsight: Die Straßencops
01:02 PM CaptHindsight: rmu: yeah
01:02 PM CaptHindsight: are german criminals always so polite?
01:03 PM CaptHindsight: someone had a woman tied up in the truck of a car and her captor was nice
01:04 PM roycroft: all germans are always polite
01:04 PM roycroft: except when they are not
01:06 PM CaptHindsight: like Canadians
01:07 PM CaptHindsight: I am genuinely surprised when uhmericans are polite to me
01:07 PM CaptHindsight: they don't seem to teach manners this far out of the city
01:08 PM FinboySlick: My few experiences in the US as a Canadian were great, to be honest.
01:08 PM FinboySlick: I guess you're good hosts if mean to each-other.
01:13 PM rmu: CaptHindsight: i assume tv series like that are fake
01:14 PM rmu: but what do i know, i didn't have a proper tv in 20 years
01:15 PM CaptHindsight: i watch streams from all over the world
01:16 PM rmu: CaptHindsight: watch something like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI2lRmMeWxI
01:19 PM CaptHindsight: morning shows are interesting since they are all similar but different
01:20 PM CaptHindsight: and target the "average person"
01:42 PM miss0r: CaptHindsight: Test result: Negative.
01:42 PM miss0r: so, just a good'ol flu
01:43 PM CaptHindsight: yeay! not the flu but the flu
01:44 PM miss0r: indeed
01:45 PM miss0r: Although I must admit. Having your throat swapped is some of the most uncomfortable I have ever had done to me in ways of medical examination
01:45 PM CaptHindsight: but you're supposed to get this in the winter, not August
01:45 PM miss0r: indeed
01:46 PM CaptHindsight: my gag reflex is strong
01:46 PM miss0r: so it would seem it is with me. Strong enough that the nurse doing the swapping jerked back her head at the sounds I made :D
01:46 PM miss0r: I think she knew if she did not get it done right fast in a hurry it would result in a spash attack
01:47 PM miss0r: splash*
01:47 PM CaptHindsight: tests here take >10 days for results :)
01:48 PM miss0r: The test was submitted at 9:57 and was avaliable for reading at 12:51 (acording to the website interface where I read the result)
01:48 PM CaptHindsight: one site claims 2-5 days now
01:49 PM miss0r: But I was expedited fast, because the nurse on the phone thought I sounded hoarse.. heh
01:49 PM miss0r: usualy the answer is 12-24hours under way
01:50 PM miss0r: That is still pretty slow - your test times
01:50 PM CaptHindsight: if you can get one
01:50 PM miss0r: I mean.. If you have to quarantine yourself, fine. but you might not have to, and that is a long wait not knowing if the quarantine you have put yourself in waiting is needed or not
01:51 PM miss0r: You can't just get one?
01:51 PM CaptHindsight: heh, i tried to make an appointment and the website timed out
01:51 PM miss0r: hehe
01:51 PM CaptHindsight: Why don't I qualify for testing?
01:51 PM CaptHindsight: Because of limited supplies and in accordance with CDC guidelines, testing is limited to certain patients.
01:51 PM miss0r: My wife had a look at our website for signing up for a test earlier today. She sat in que as number 1000something to just access the site
01:52 PM CaptHindsight: I don't drive. Can I walk in?
01:52 PM CaptHindsight: No. For the safety of patients and providers, we are currently limiting testing to drive-up patients only.
01:52 PM CaptHindsight: so be sick and have a car
01:52 PM miss0r: indeed
01:52 PM miss0r: 'round here the government has planned that everyone should be tested before the end of the year
01:53 PM miss0r: to see if they've had it at some point
01:53 PM miss0r: but we are only 6mio people, so its a bit easier to overcome than what you guys are facing
01:53 PM CaptHindsight: PCR antibody tests can be done at home, but most aren't smart enough to be able to run it
01:55 PM CaptHindsight: it would have to be as simple as a pregnancy test and they would still mess them up
01:55 PM miss0r: lol
01:55 PM miss0r: "Thats not a positive line! Thats a pubic hair on 'yer test!!"
01:57 PM miss0r: By the way: I finished the interior panels: https://imgur.com/a/JXxOpCK
01:57 PM CaptHindsight: it's mostly move a tube from hot to cold bath every few minutes
01:58 PM miss0r: I'm sure I could mess that up as well :)
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: aluminum sheet for the interior walls?
01:59 PM miss0r: yeah
01:59 PM miss0r: (trying to stay as close to the original design as possible)
01:59 PM miss0r: obviously the original did not have a kitchen or anything of the like, but still :)
02:00 PM CaptHindsight: if aluminum sheet was available pre anodized with graphics/images would you use it? wood grain, stone, a sunset, flowers etc? Like metal wall paper
02:01 PM miss0r: If I could get them pre anodized in RAL6014, I would've used that :)
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: or a composite with honeycomb in between two sheets
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.prismaticpowders.com/shop/powder-coating-colors/RAL-6014/ral-6014
02:01 PM miss0r: the problem with the honeycomb, as I see it. Is that it dents too easily
02:02 PM CaptHindsight: depends on the thickness of the sheets and the type of honeycomb materials
02:02 PM CaptHindsight: what thickness are your panels?
02:02 PM miss0r: Indeed. I've used 1.5mm sheet
02:03 PM CaptHindsight: ah
02:03 PM miss0r: simply because 1mm dents too easy as well
02:03 PM CaptHindsight: decent thickness for aluminum
02:03 PM miss0r: indeed
02:03 PM miss0r: anything less than that, and you will dent it just by hitting it with your elbow.
02:05 PM CaptHindsight: what alloy? 3xxx?
02:05 PM CaptHindsight: is Alcoa big there?
02:06 PM miss0r: I don't know, actualy. What ever goes for regular "construction" aluminium around here.
02:06 PM miss0r: Alcoa doesn't ring a bell.
02:06 PM miss0r: I just phoned up my steel supplier and asked them to send me 10 sheets of 1.5mm alu.
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: i forget which country you are in
02:08 PM miss0r: Denmark
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: i flip you and fragalot
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: I'll remeber now
02:08 PM miss0r: Fragalot is in the bog often mentioned by the name of Belgium
02:08 PM miss0r: :D
02:08 PM miss0r: not as fun throwing slur at belgium when he is not in here
02:09 PM CaptHindsight: yeah
02:09 PM CaptHindsight: he always corrects me when i get it wrong :)
02:10 PM * miss0r is currently designing a resopal sigh for the land rover
02:10 PM CaptHindsight: miss0r: are you allowed to travel across borders?
02:10 PM miss0r: yeah
02:10 PM miss0r: they've opened up alot of that. Not sure to what degree yet, though
02:10 PM CaptHindsight: i saw the france/UK closing
02:11 PM miss0r: If I had work buisness outside of Denmark I would be allowed to travel
02:11 PM miss0r: A friend of mine is "stationed" in the UK building a powerplant
02:11 PM miss0r: he was home visiting a month ago
02:12 PM miss0r: I must say that the current situation has brought me more enjoyment on behalf of others than I would've though possible
02:13 PM miss0r: We visited a camping site, where it is also possible to rent cabins on the area, while most drag their RV into the lots
02:13 PM miss0r: In the hut they had placed a poster with 5 of the most regular seen bugs in the danish nature, stating that they are not dangerous and quite common.
02:14 PM CaptHindsight: I haven't been to Denmark since 1979, we drove up to Hirtshals from Germany, zig zagged around
02:14 PM miss0r: They had to do this because of people NEVER staying inside the country for vacation was suddenly forced to do so, and the administrators was sick of being called out all around the clock to remove spiders ect :D
02:14 PM miss0r: decent drive
02:15 PM miss0r: well, not by american standards... hehe
02:16 PM miss0r: wha... gloops is here? I haven't seen him utter a word for... well for a realy long time
02:17 PM CaptHindsight: OK so swab test for Covid19 is down to one day here
02:17 PM miss0r: *IF* you can get a test performed
02:18 PM CaptHindsight: be sent from work with fever qualified
02:21 PM CaptHindsight: have a bit more sanding to do on 2 doors and rear plastic bumper
02:21 PM CaptHindsight: 12 coat paint job with urethanes
02:22 PM CaptHindsight: then assemble and color coats and clears over all
02:22 PM miss0r: sounds like some work ahead of you still
02:22 PM miss0r: :)
02:23 PM CaptHindsight: fenders, and front bumper are new so very little sanding
02:23 PM CaptHindsight: much depends on the first high build primer coat and first sanding
02:24 PM miss0r: The paintjob is going to look realy good I would think
02:24 PM miss0r: Painting has always been my downfall
02:24 PM miss0r: I hate it
02:24 PM CaptHindsight: epoxy primer, urethane primer, color base, clear with particles
02:25 PM CaptHindsight: it's more sanding and prep than painting
02:25 PM miss0r: On a good day I use a spraycan primer before applying coloured topcoat from another paintcan
02:25 PM CaptHindsight: they should call it a sanding job vs paint job
02:26 PM CaptHindsight: one application for the 5-axis airbrush is for custom work on cars, but automated
02:26 PM CaptHindsight: solid colors are easy to automate
02:27 PM miss0r: That is waaaay above my paygrade
02:27 PM miss0r: ;)
02:27 PM miss0r: I just use solid colours. And not even nicely at that
02:28 PM CaptHindsight: it takes some practice
02:28 PM miss0r: Which is a good reason for me to purchase old military vehicles.. It makes it look authentic
02:28 PM skunkworks: JT-Shop2: what drone were you flying around your shop fpv?
02:28 PM CaptHindsight: my sons I paint with spray cans better than stuff he sees at car shows
02:28 PM CaptHindsight: my son says
02:29 PM miss0r: send'em over to get the interior painted then
02:29 PM miss0r: I will feed'em while they are here
02:29 PM miss0r: ;D
02:29 PM CaptHindsight: can sprayed flat colors? :)
02:29 PM miss0r: hehe
02:30 PM CaptHindsight: we built models as kids so we learned how to spray
02:32 PM snakedGT is now known as snaked
02:32 PM miss0r: Indeed. I've sprayed some nice stuff as well. I just don't enjoy it. Also, I am adapt at making "runners" :D
02:35 PM miss0r: I'll call it a night. See you around
02:48 PM skunkworks: it is surprisingly easy to get a good finish with spray paint. Light coats..
02:53 PM CaptHindsight: too light and you get orange peel
02:53 PM CaptHindsight: too heavy and it runs
02:53 PM CaptHindsight: just stay in between
02:54 PM CaptHindsight: it self levels with wet on wet passes
03:01 PM CaptHindsight: let it flash after each coat so you don't trap solvent
03:02 PM roycroft: it's surprisingly easy to get good results with spray paint, and surprisingly easy to get horrible results as well
03:02 PM skunkworks: heh
03:04 PM roycroft: so i have my first mortise competely cut and ready to go
03:04 PM roycroft: all the rest are drilled out, but i still have to do final machining on them
03:18 PM veegee: WTF I ordered a cartridge of grease from amazon and received a clearly half used tube with the metal seal broken and taped up LOL
03:19 PM veegee: Well much less than half used, but no harm in taking more out of it before I send it back for a replacement
03:19 PM Tom_L: the delivery driver had a squeaky wheel
03:19 PM Tom_L: sure thing. use what you need and pass it on...
03:20 PM veegee: And I guess there's no way to prevent oil separating from the grease and dripping out of the grease gun right?
03:21 PM veegee: Do all greases separate from their oil like that?
03:31 PM Deejay: gn8
03:39 PM unterhaus: I'm going to have to clean up my office if I'm going to wfh
03:39 PM unterhaus: bummer
03:44 PM roycroft: working from home has been nice
03:44 PM roycroft: i've been doing it part time for almost 20 years, and full time since march
03:46 PM roycroft: the reason i was able to get that mortise cut a while ago was because i work from home now
03:46 PM roycroft: at lunch time i just walked out into the shop and spent an hour working on the bench project
03:47 PM roycroft: i've been doing that ever since i started that project, and that gets me an extra 5 hours/week to work on it
03:54 PM unterhaus: had a meeting about a consulting job the other day, I did like it better than going in somewhere to have a meeting
03:54 PM unterhaus: need to get a webcam though
03:59 PM unterhaus: looks bad for universities https://www.chronicle.com/article/live-coronavirus-updates-heres-the-latest
04:04 PM Tom_L: adblocker won't let me see that
04:12 PM MrHindsight: unterhaus: yes, tried opening schools for a few weeks and now closing them due to outbreaks
04:13 PM MrHindsight: Tom_L: if you get passed the blocker issues it asks you to sign up :)
04:14 PM MrHindsight is now known as CaptHindsight
04:15 PM CaptHindsight: 1st day back at school, communicative disease prevention 101
04:15 PM CaptHindsight: same for days 2-5
04:15 PM CaptHindsight: then maybe other classes
04:31 PM Tom_L: meh, no thanks
04:35 PM unterhaus: I have no problems, don't think I ever signed up. But the chronicle of higher ed is pretty useful to anyone that works at a university
04:36 PM unterhaus: notre dame just went online for 2 weeks, whatever good that will do them. The students will still be in the dorms drinking out of each other's beer glass
04:36 PM Tom_L: as long as they stay there i'm ok with it
04:37 PM unterhaus: that's the thing, they are going home to kill their parents.
04:37 PM Tom_L: higher education... pffft
04:38 PM roycroft: the more we hurry up in an attempt to restore some semblence of normalcy the longer it will be before we can return to some semblence of normalcy
04:39 PM Tom_L: who decides that time frame?
04:40 PM unterhaus: you can't have students at university with the current level of community spread
04:41 PM unterhaus: The bad part is that by next week, State College will have twice the population it had a week ago
04:41 PM unterhaus: and the new population is a batch of irresponsible buffoons.
04:42 PM unterhaus: at least the students don't like the closest grocery store
06:15 PM roycroft: tom_l: the virus itself and medical science decide it
07:08 PM veegee: roycroft, turns out that double density teflon tape makes a big difference for sealing NPT threads for compressed air. The double density tape also resists tearing much better, so it's better than doubling the number of wraps of the single density white tape
07:08 PM veegee: Would the red triple density tape be even better or worse?
07:48 PM CaptHindsight: whatever works
07:48 PM CaptHindsight: you are allowed to fund me in an effort to devise a theory..
07:49 PM CaptHindsight: followed by some other science methodicals :)
07:51 PM CaptHindsight: isolation to save from virus death vs hardship from economic isolation
07:51 PM CaptHindsight: who decides?
07:52 PM CaptHindsight: non political theory: capitalism requires economic activity and for the lower classes this means physical contact
07:53 PM CaptHindsight: virus mortality rates are directly effected by physical contact
07:55 PM CaptHindsight: "We the People of the United States"...."ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"
07:57 PM CaptHindsight: how to balance domestic tranquility and general welfare among those that don't care about about themselves or others dying from a pandemic vs ..
07:57 PM CaptHindsight: those that wish to avoid dying
07:57 PM CaptHindsight: from the pandemic
07:58 PM CaptHindsight: hardship by some vs death to some
07:59 PM CaptHindsight: US constitution does not require that a capitalistic system be in place
08:01 PM CaptHindsight: ensure domestic Tranquility, promote the general Welfare vs and secure the Blessings of Liberty
08:03 PM CaptHindsight: where am i wrong?
08:19 PM roycroft: for starters, you are using your brain and not your gut to sort things out
08:20 PM roycroft: i'm trying to figure out where i went wrong
08:20 PM roycroft: i just had two mortises intersect that were not supposed to intersect
08:20 PM roycroft: it's very fixable
08:20 PM CaptHindsight: my apologies
08:20 PM roycroft: and invisibly so
08:20 PM roycroft: but my cad drawings are correct
08:21 PM roycroft: they match the part
08:21 PM roycroft: and the cad drawings show that the mortises do not intersect
08:21 PM CaptHindsight: remove the politics and things become far more clear
08:21 PM roycroft: i'll go measure things for the 87th or so time again after dinner or tomorrow
08:22 PM roycroft: well as i've been saying, politics is the new religion in this country
08:22 PM roycroft: so removing politics is not happening
08:22 PM roycroft: which is why i'm so jaded finally, at my ripe old age
08:25 PM CaptHindsight: found some 4 yo super duper yeast in my fridge
08:25 PM CaptHindsight: it's going absolutely bonkers in some sugar water
08:26 PM CaptHindsight: with fortifier and added some mineral water to keep the metal ions up
08:31 PM CaptHindsight: roycroft: I'm usually wrong and CAD is more often correct
08:31 PM CaptHindsight: that is just my experience
08:31 PM CaptHindsight: measure twice cut twice
08:40 PM roycroft: yes
08:41 PM roycroft: and like i said, i measured 86 times or so already
08:42 PM roycroft: but also like i said, the fix is easy
08:42 PM roycroft: it was time to walk away for a while though
09:11 PM Lee_ is now known as Lee-
09:19 PM roycroft: the zoom delayed applause stuff at the convention has to go
09:19 PM roycroft: it's absolutely horrible
09:22 PM XXCoder: huh
09:23 PM CaptHindsight: yeah
09:23 PM CaptHindsight: "Awkward"
09:23 PM Connor: ??
09:23 PM XXCoder: ah latacy
09:25 PM CaptHindsight: coming to BVS this fall! Awkward Zoom reactions!
09:25 PM XXCoder: you guys remember funny videos tv show?
09:25 PM XXCoder: new one, but with zoom stuff
09:26 PM CaptHindsight: stupid human tricks