Jun 29 2020
01:52 AM XXCoder: JT-Cave: man work tomorrow is going to suck heh
01:57 AM Deejay: moin
02:53 AM Loetmichel: *hehe* china just delivered. now i have 20 TMC2208 silent stepper driver and 20 high torque nema 17 steppers... let the robot/3d-printer building commence! ;) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17874&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
02:56 AM veek: Loetmichel, aliexpress?
02:57 AM Loetmichel: jey
02:57 AM Loetmichel: jes
02:57 AM Loetmichel: grrr
02:57 AM Loetmichel: yes
02:59 AM sensille: Loetmichel: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3327968
02:59 AM sensille: i want to build that one
03:01 AM XXCoder: niiice
03:01 AM XXCoder: i want to try, but i have no usercase dor it
03:01 AM sensille: you don't need one
03:01 AM Loetmichel: sensille: i am designing my own. i DO get some ideas from the WE-R2.4 though
03:01 AM Loetmichel: especially how he mounts the drives
03:02 AM XXCoder: loet whats your usercase for it
03:02 AM sensille: don't forget to publish it when it's done :)
03:02 AM Loetmichel: i will probably use a wolfrom gearset though, not his version pf planetary gears
03:02 AM XXCoder: wow that guy has MANY designs
03:03 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: because i can... and i want to learn how to program one.
03:03 AM XXCoder: nice
03:07 AM sensille: that's enough of a use case
03:08 AM XXCoder: if I was still selling lego I'd have a user case
03:08 AM XXCoder: lego sorter
03:16 AM Loetmichel: sensille: thats how far i am now: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17859&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
03:43 AM veek: where can i get gusseted big 10x14" "Mylar" bags
03:43 AM veek: i want to heat seal and store nuts/bolts and misc crap for many years (10+) so low WVTR
03:44 AM veek: Amazon has "Mylar" https://www.amazon.com/7-5-Mil-Mylar-Bags-Pouches/dp/B07CV542DX?th=1 but not gusseted Strobel has a nice selection but no spec https://stroebel.de/de/beutel-aus-aluminiumverbundfolie.html
03:45 AM veek: how do you guys store your knick knacks..
05:28 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:28 AM XXCoder: yo
05:31 AM veek: do you guys have any pics of your tool room, machine shop..
05:46 AM JT-Cave: https://gnipsel.com/shop/machine-shop.xhtml
05:46 AM XXCoder: its been that long?
05:47 AM XXCoder: i remember you talking about slab but i joined in 2013 I thought, not 2010
05:47 AM JT-Cave: seems so
05:47 AM JT-Cave: maybe the slab for the big shop
05:48 AM XXCoder: that was old shop? so maybe your larger one was being made in 2013?
05:49 AM veek: heh cool!
05:49 AM JT-Cave: 8/5/2016 the slab for the big shop was poured
05:50 AM XXCoder: ya timing is right
05:51 AM XXCoder: you had issues with so heavy rain then too lol
05:51 AM JT-Cave: started clearing the land in January
05:53 AM XXCoder: well hows shop been during those 4 years
05:55 AM JT-Cave: took a little over a year to finish the shop from cutting the first tree down, I still need to run permanent electric to it
05:56 AM XXCoder: extension cord?
05:57 AM JT-Cave: no, I have the conduit ran as far as an opening in the machine shop and I'm tied into a 50 outlet for now
05:58 AM XXCoder: 50a eh
05:58 AM XXCoder: i guess direct hookup would mean you have more power to use
06:00 AM JT-Cave: yea, I have the panel mounted on the house to connect up and have reconfigured that so I can isolate the mains when running on a generator
06:00 AM XXCoder: cool :) have to be off a bit be back in a bit
06:01 AM JT-Cave: me too time to clean chicken poop
06:16 AM Tom_L: morning
06:24 AM XXCoder: back
06:24 AM XXCoder: hey
07:14 AM pink_vampire: hi
07:14 AM XXCoder: yo
07:14 AM JT-Cave: yo
07:15 AM XXCoder: lo
07:16 AM SpeedEvil: oo
07:17 AM pink_vampire: https://youtu.be/0U8lCgh7pl4
07:18 AM XXCoder: pink check this out https://youtu.be/q8RWx49L_Jg
07:18 AM veegee: Best way to square warped lumber ?
07:18 AM veegee: Like a 10 ft 2x4 or 4x4
07:18 AM XXCoder: he makes lot of fun videos, though this video its by other people most cases
07:18 AM XXCoder: umm whats that thingy called, planar? no that is for wider sides though you use that as second stage
07:18 AM veegee: jointer
07:19 AM veegee: but ideally a big CNC router is the best way
07:19 AM veegee: I'm trying to think of a way short of that
07:19 AM veegee: need to have a long straight edge reference and some way to slide a circular saw or along a table saw
07:20 AM XXCoder: joiner narrow side first, then the wide one. push flattened wide side against wall as you joint other narrow side
07:20 AM snakedGT is now known as snaked
07:20 AM XXCoder: you then use planar to finish other wide side
07:20 AM veegee: ok so I guess just buy a used jointer?
07:21 AM veegee: Damn, all these dust collectors come with shitty single phase motors
07:21 AM XXCoder: depends on your maintance skills. blade may need replacing and its tricky from what I see
07:21 AM JT-Cave: I use my jointer to get two flat edges 90° to each other
07:21 AM XXCoder: mke your own
07:21 AM veegee: Yeah that was the plan, but it's more expensive to buy the impeller and motor separately
07:21 AM JT-Cave: then you can use the planer to flatten the 3 wide side
07:21 AM XXCoder: 3?
07:22 AM veegee: I'm just emailing the suppliers to see if they can swap the motor to a 3 phase so I can put a VFD on it
07:22 AM XXCoder: hold on a second
07:22 AM veegee: yeah sorry I'm talking about 2 different topics at the same time
07:22 AM veegee: I had ADD
07:23 AM veegee: have*
07:23 AM veegee: didn't take my adderall yet
07:23 AM veegee: I save it for a bit later in the day because it helps me deal with stupid people
07:23 AM XXCoder: https://woodgears.ca/dust_collector/box.html
07:23 AM veegee: Yeah I saw that
07:24 AM veegee: But it's hard to properly balance and make your own impeller.
07:24 AM XXCoder: i cant find one thats larger uses big bags but made also
07:24 AM veegee: I know he did it, but there's no way I'd make it out of wood
07:24 AM XXCoder: well cyoline one would be workable in wood. he did that too
07:25 AM veegee: you need both the impeller and the cyclone for the best performance
07:25 AM veegee: or your filter will get clogged fast
07:25 AM XXCoder: https://woodgears.ca/dust_collector/cyclone.html
07:25 AM veegee: This is what I want to buy: https://www.busybeetools.com/products/dust-collector-3hp-w-canisters-csa-cx402.html
07:25 AM veegee: I just want them to sell it to me without the shitty single phase motor
07:25 AM veegee: And I'll modify it by putting a cyclone separator on it
07:26 AM veegee: I wish it came with at least a 5 HP motor and bigger impeller
07:26 AM veegee: They have cyclone models too, but twice the cost for no reason: https://www.busybeetools.com/products/3hp-cyclone-dust-collector-csa.html
07:26 AM XXCoder: going to bed good luck :)
07:26 AM XXCoder: wish me luck, hoping dizzy goes down
07:27 AM veegee: XXCoder where do you live
07:27 AM veegee: it's 8 am here in Toronto
07:27 AM veegee: and who is dizzy?
07:32 AM unterhaus: that busy bee cyclone looks a lot like the laguna, which isn't that great. wonder if you can get something like the grizzly cyclone
07:33 AM unterhaus: I just modified my oneida cyclone, it works a lot better now. I have one more mod to make that I hadn't previously thought about doing
07:34 AM unterhaus: I checked the bucket under the filter yesterday, no dust made it past the cyclone
07:37 AM JT-Cave: what did you do to the oneida?
08:48 AM veegee: unterhaus yeah I'm going to get the oneida cycle and attach it to the busy bee non cyclone unit
09:11 AM gregcnc: I'm curious too. which Oneida do you have?
09:31 AM Centurion-Dan2 is now known as Centurion_Dan
09:46 AM * veek sighs
10:00 AM kwork_ is now known as kwork
10:58 AM methods_: https://www.oshwa.org/a-resolution-to-redefine-spi-signal-names
11:24 AM JT-Cave: unterhaus, what did you modify on the oneida?
11:24 AM unterhaus: I had the old style with the internal filter
11:25 AM unterhaus: put an external filter on it and tightened up the clearance to the fan, which was stupidly large, like 2"
11:25 AM unterhaus: I just noticed the air going into the bin is spinning really fast, so I might try to trip it up a little
11:26 AM JT-Cave: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JP315K
11:26 AM unterhaus: and I want to add a neutral vane
11:26 AM JT-Cave: I have that one on a fiber drum
11:27 AM unterhaus: this is what mine looks like now, sorta https://www.finewoodworking.com/2005/10/25/cyclone-collector-review
11:28 AM unterhaus: someone sold me all of his woodworking tools, so it was cheap
11:29 AM JT-Cave: mine has an external vacuum built from an old surface grinder vacuum
11:30 AM JT-Cave: I put a potential relay in to kick it on when the tablesaw is running
11:30 AM unterhaus: what I found from previous experiements was that just about any cyclone works pretty well.
11:31 AM unterhaus: but also running the suction side through a garbage can was pretty good. Maybe not for fine dust
11:31 AM JT-Cave: I have and exhaust filter bag to catch the dust
11:31 AM unterhaus: I didn't even have a baffle in the garbage can
11:31 AM JT-Cave: but there is always dust that doesn't make it into any collection system
11:39 AM veek: trade war
11:39 AM veek: ugh - sorry = typo
01:52 PM veegee: Anyone want to take a shot at machining this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2107879482/flipo-fliptm-pocket-sized-kinetic-skill-toy
01:56 PM SpeedEvil: i bet it would work moderately well out of 3d printed plastic
01:58 PM SpeedEvil: That seems like an excellent 'apprentice project' to do with a file.
01:59 PM SpeedEvil: File, radius gage, bit of flat stock cut on a bandsaw.
02:00 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: MAKE IT SO #1
02:36 PM perry_j1987: crazy storm
02:37 PM perry_j1987: veegee thats basically a metal kururin
02:37 PM perry_j1987: old japanese tumbling toy
02:37 PM perry_j1987: turned on a lathe
02:47 PM * JT-Shop lost interest in 3 seconds
02:48 PM gregcnc: wow serious money
02:49 PM perry_j1987: had wheel cylinder spring a leak in truck today
02:50 PM perry_j1987: ok grab vice grips out of the tool box throw those on there and head over to autoparts store heh
02:50 PM perry_j1987: guy kept trying to sell me a non metric brake line lol
02:50 PM perry_j1987: didnt understand it was metric and i kept telling him its metric so finally just went behind the counter myself and grabbed the right one haha
03:04 PM jymmmm: perry_j1987: you drove the truck with vice grips on a brake line?
03:04 PM jymmmm: ...in a storm?
03:25 PM Tom_L: veegee, is that gonna be then next damn 'spinner' gaget?
03:53 PM Tom_L: maybe i should do a kickstarter for this: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Cube/Cube1.jpg
03:58 PM JT-Shop: you would have to have a cute video showing how much fun it is lol
03:59 PM serp: maybe not even that fancy.. just a cube of aluminum
04:00 PM JT-Shop: nothing more fun than hauling a heavy bucket of rock up a hill and your sweaty leg touches an insulator for the fence...
04:01 PM Tom_L: there are other tests to see if it's live ya know..
04:03 PM methods_: i wonder if the world is ready for pet rocks again
04:03 PM methods_: https://www.amazon.com/Pet-Rock-Authentic-Approved-Original/dp/B07KN9FK4B
04:03 PM methods_: i guess so
04:03 PM methods_: authentic pet rock too
04:04 PM XXCoder: wow nice :P
04:05 PM methods_: only $20
04:05 PM methods_: total bargain
04:06 PM Tom_L: how about a polished turd?
04:06 PM methods_: i have one of those too
04:06 PM methods_: got it in alaska
04:06 PM methods_: https://www.etsy.com/listing/24083118/real-moose-poop-9-doo-doo-nugget?
04:08 PM Tom_L: did the moose get his cut?
04:12 PM JT-Shop: it was not a test it was shockingly real
04:21 PM Deejay: gn8
04:22 PM Tom_L: l8r
04:26 PM methods_: Tom_L: i don't know i wasn't involved in the original transaction
06:40 PM Centurion-Dan2 is now known as Centurion_Dan
06:49 PM MarkusBec_ is now known as MarkusBec
07:19 PM flyback: methods_,
07:20 PM flyback: do you enjoy the decending of the moose every year
07:20 PM flyback: at thanksgiving, haloween and sometimes xmas?
07:20 PM flyback: nm
07:20 PM flyback: guess it would only be thanksgiving
07:20 PM flyback: duah
07:20 PM flyback: to steal pumpkins off people's lawns
07:21 PM flyback: im mixing u p the zoo feeding and halloween in alaska
07:21 PM flyback: they feeel zoo animals with leftover pumpkins also
07:21 PM flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVx3BliKWu0 <-- BMCC
07:25 PM Centurion-Dan2 is now known as Centurion_Dan
08:17 PM Rab: That's kind of a neat thing to show up in this town: https://austin.craigslist.org/tls/d/austin-atlas-mf-horizontal-milling/7148207914.html
08:18 PM Rab: Looks very compact.
08:44 PM Tom_L: veegee, http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/flippy_flip.jpg
09:18 PM jymmmm: Rab: looks to be in good condition for what it is
09:20 PM Rab: jymmmm, yeah, I wonder what other machinery they have rolling around on their wooden living room floor.
09:41 PM jymmmm: Rab: You could ask, YOu would be surprised at what people will say when you ask "Do you have anything else you might be interested in selling" that they never considered before
09:42 PM jymmmm: Rab: His opening ad "IF you clicked on it you know what it is", can't be any more open about stuff than that =)
09:45 PM renesis: weird looking belt is weird
09:46 PM Tom_L: i forget what they're called but they're common
09:48 PM Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com/Jason-Industrial-LINK-5-Accu-Link-Belting/dp/B00A9ZNE7C/ref=pd_lpo_328_t_0/136-1528053-9803057?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00A9ZNE7C&pd_rd_r=68e2c1b5-0bea-411b-bbb9-0bd6027c8a81&pd_rd_w=r3QUk&pd_rd_wg=rlNKE&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=H4YVW5M6BG1ARFNF0WXH&psc=1&refRID=H4YVW5M6BG1ARFNF0WXH
09:48 PM renesis: looks pretty easy to swap out?
09:48 PM Tom_L: adjustable
09:49 PM renesis: that too
10:04 PM Rab: Harbor Fright sells that belt, surprisingly the name-brand stuff at the name-brand price. I have it on my drill press.
10:07 PM Rab: Well, a little cheaper. https://www.harborfreight.com/vibration-free-link-belt-43771.html
10:07 PM Rab: I feel like it's actually noisier than the stock v-belt, though.
10:45 PM renesis: looks flappy
11:00 PM jymmmm: flippy floppy flappy