#linuxcnc Logs
Apr 30 2020
#linuxcnc Calendar
02:20 AM Loetmichel: hmm, just found a new (to me) feature in MoI3d. If you draw a selection box from left to right it will select anything thats completely inside the box, if you draw it from right to left it will select anything thats touching the box. Is that normal for a 3dcad?
04:55 AM Loetmichel: soo, now i only have to make a big hole in the bottom, a bezel for around the (touch)screen and then assembly. MAN what a pile of work for a simple 10" display... -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17797&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
05:02 AM jthornton: morning
05:04 AM Loetmichel: mornin'
07:00 AM Tom_L: morning
07:43 AM gregcnc: not cnc lathe https://www.instagram.com/p/B_mecJQhb-c/
07:48 AM gregcnc: linuxcnc turning a cam lobe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBXa6RHSPQ
09:25 AM veegee: I don't understand why flat head screws ever became a thing
09:25 AM veegee: why not just add a second slot to make a
09:25 AM veegee: to make a + sign
09:26 AM veegee: Not any more difficult to machine, better than phillips head and prevents the screwdriver from sliding out on a regular flat head screw
09:30 AM jymmmm: veegee: I don't think they had mule powered mills in the 1800's
09:31 AM veegee: Everyone should be given free rotary broaches and torx inserts
09:32 AM veegee: So they can machine all the shitty flat head screws to torx
09:38 AM SpeedEvil: Flathead screws mattered a lot less when power screwdrivers were not a thing.
09:57 AM dirty_d: isn't there a solution to an optimization problem to find what shape drive fits within a given size screw head finding the maximum torque?
09:57 AM dirty_d: maybe that's how they came up with torx
10:18 AM jymmmm: expoy MDF shower, looks like marble https://youtu.be/e9JcwjdBD9U?t=2211
10:41 AM Loetmichel: oh maaan, milling a 180*280mm sized 1,5mm deep pocket into a 4mm sheet alu with a 2mm 2flute takes foreeeever... especially if you only can make 0.15mm DOC :-(
10:41 AM Loetmichel: per pass
12:51 PM Loetmichel: guys (and gals) I have a LinuxCNC PC from a coworker here... lspci says "netmos 9815 multi-io-card" for a parallel port... how do i find the active Io/adress?
12:52 PM Tom_L: does dmesg show stuff like that?
12:53 PM Loetmichel: i have no idea, thats why i ask
12:53 PM Tom_L: it'll be a long list but it might be there
12:54 PM XXCoder: lsmod ¦ grep lp
12:55 PM Tom_L: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/serial-and-parallel-port-with-dmesg-command-455546/
12:55 PM Tom_L: it'll be 378 278 or 3bc probably
12:55 PM Tom_L: 0x378 etc
01:05 PM Loetmichel: Tom_L: doesent help, dont know what to look for
01:06 PM Loetmichel: XXCoder: yes, i find lp0 and lp1... but no adresses
01:06 PM XXCoder: odd
01:07 PM XXCoder: try lsmod ¦ grep lp
01:08 PM XXCoder: or lsmod ¦ grep lp0 and lsmod ¦ grep lp1 for more tight filtering
01:08 PM XXCoder: oops
01:09 PM XXCoder: a second
01:09 PM XXCoder: dmesg ¦ grep lp0 and dmesg ¦ grep lp1
01:18 PM Loetmichel: found it.... on 0xe050 and 0xe030
01:18 PM Loetmichel: but stepconf still dosent want to talk to it
01:19 PM Loetmichel: grmbl
01:19 PM Loetmichel: anyone knows a working card for PCIe?
01:25 PM Tom_L: seems like an odd pp address
01:54 PM jym: Everyne went to the beach last weekend, there are now 552 new cases in that area
01:54 PM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WCH
01:54 PM XXCoder: jym: too soon :9
01:54 PM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: the one on the wiki is $10 and works
01:54 PM XXCoder: :(
01:55 PM jym: XXCoder: I went to walmart last week, I think I was the only one in the store with a mask
01:56 PM andypugh: jym: It’s your constitutional right not to.
01:57 PM CaptHindsight: is it really worth trying to help these people?
01:57 PM CaptHindsight: and does it really help to try?
01:58 PM jym: andypugh: This is true. But my question is why is it illegal for me to shoot them?
01:58 PM andypugh: You don’t see many masks in the UK. Official advice only goes as far as keeping 2m separation.
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: 30 million applied for unemployment, wonder what the suicide rate will be in 6 months
01:59 PM andypugh: I own a couple of masks, but I only wear them at work where they were issued to me.
01:59 PM XXCoder: i have few cloth masks for work and stores
01:59 PM jym: andypugh And the "official" advice from the CDC orignally was "DONT WEAR MASK", then they charnge their mind... DO WEAR MASKS. But simply, commmon sense tells you to wear maks and gloves. Fuck what "officials" have to say
01:59 PM XXCoder: best i can, I cant breathe though n95 mask, one was issued to me from work
01:59 PM andypugh: (My employer has cut out the middle-man and bought two mask-making machines.)
02:00 PM jym: andypugh: maks MAKING machines? DO tell
02:00 PM XXCoder: andy dang must be big company to be worth it
02:00 PM andypugh: XXCoder: Yes. Ford.
02:00 PM jym: XXCoder: you might have heard of it
02:00 PM XXCoder: makes sense
02:00 PM jym: andypugh: have you seen the machine?
02:00 PM andypugh: I have seen a photo.
02:00 PM jym: oh
02:00 PM XXCoder: all works to fix and repair daily all fords ;)
02:01 PM andypugh: They look like _really_ big photocopiers.
02:01 PM jym: XXCoder: Blame andypugh, he designs them =)
02:01 PM XXCoder: lol
02:01 PM XXCoder: *workers
02:01 PM jym: andypugh: interesting, I've been looking at making some
02:02 PM sync: jym: common sense tells you not to wear gloves tho
02:02 PM andypugh: I actually think we have a couple in the UK for EU use and probably some in the US too.
02:02 PM jym: sync: why wouldn'y uou want a barrier?
02:02 PM sync: because you already have one there
02:02 PM jym: ?
02:02 PM sync: and you are severely stressing it by wearing gloves
02:03 PM jym: that makes no sense
02:03 PM sync: you have this thing called skin keeping your red liquid in and all the bad stuff out
02:03 PM andypugh: The photo I saw of our pair looked a lot like this: https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/2-inner-fully-automatic-face-disposable-non-woven-surgical-mask-making-machine-18718385048.html
02:03 PM jym: and it's porus and collects things and allows for cross contamination more so
02:04 PM sync: no not really
02:04 PM sync: you are more likely to get an infection if you wear gloves
02:04 PM jym: andypugh: interesting
02:04 PM XXCoder: if they have excess I wonder if they donate or sell em
02:04 PM CaptHindsight: sync: why is that?
02:04 PM XXCoder: at cost or not
02:04 PM sync: as the climate between your skin and the glove encourages bacterial growth and the gloves get permeable over time
02:05 PM andypugh: I am prepared to believe that the half0live of viruses is shorter on skin than on glove.
02:05 PM andypugh: (I am also prepared to believe the converse, too)
02:05 PM XXCoder: me, i just wash hands 20 seconds
02:05 PM sync: if you wash your hands after you went out and apply a skin care product, you are better off than wearing gloves
02:05 PM Loetmichel: soo, re at home. Fyi: It wasnt the LPT card. it works fine with "0" in parport adress... it was a "charge pump" jumper on his chinese breakout board
02:05 PM CaptHindsight: true after a week the gloves tend to be full of perspiration and holes
02:06 PM Loetmichel: CaptHindsight: after a week?
02:06 PM sync: no
02:06 PM CaptHindsight: i change gloves every few hours
02:06 PM Loetmichel: thats how they look after approx 10 minutes
02:06 PM CaptHindsight: they often just slide off from the perspiration
02:06 PM sync: every few hours, you might as well just not wear any glove then
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: yeah, useless
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: all these years
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: well glove makers need money to
02:07 PM andypugh: https://www.just-auto.com/news/ford-to-supply-its-own-face-mask-and-shield-needs_id195232.aspx
02:08 PM XXCoder: i oly wear gloves when im broaching parts. i seem to slightly allegric to broaching oil
02:08 PM andypugh: Copper chain mail gloves would be best. Breathable and antimicrobial/antivirus
02:08 PM * Loetmichel just got a 10 pack of kevlar gloves delivered
02:09 PM Loetmichel: they dont protect from any oils or virii but from sharp metal corners.
02:09 PM Loetmichel: MUCH more useful in a shop ;)
02:09 PM XXCoder: yeah that'd save couple gallons of your blood
02:10 PM Loetmichel: XXCoder: over the years: probably yes;)
02:10 PM XXCoder: :)
02:25 PM Tom_L: andypugh, is there a way to tell if rtai is installed?
02:26 PM andypugh: Have a look for /usr/realtime*
02:26 PM Tom_L: been working on that kernel last few days
02:26 PM Tom_L: having trouble building linuxcnc now as well
02:27 PM andypugh: When configuring the NTULINUX version of RTAI I have to change the install location to /usr/realtime-4.14.174-rtai-amd64
02:28 PM andypugh: And I think that LinuxCNC might require that pattern of name (to match the kernel)
02:28 PM Tom_L: there is no directory as such
02:28 PM Loetmichel: btw: THAT packed up board in the back was the culprit on my coworkers machine: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17397&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
02:28 PM Loetmichel: ... and those steppers are MEAN
02:28 PM Tom_L: so in the menuconfig add -rtai-amd64 as the suffix?
02:28 PM Loetmichel: sound like a jet engine at 6A and 600 rpm ;)
02:29 PM Tom_L: first time i added -rtai and it didn't like that
02:29 PM Tom_L: andypugh, you're using 174? i used 114
02:30 PM andypugh: That reminds me, I had a “first” today. I exploded a stepper by over-speeding it.
02:30 PM Loetmichel: andypugh: rotor rapid disassembly?
02:30 PM Loetmichel: or did a bearing fail?
02:30 PM andypugh: Tom_L: 4.14.174 and 4.19.114 both work equally well (and equally badly)
02:30 PM Tom_L: heh
02:31 PM andypugh: Loetmichel: I think the rotor. It carried on ticking but the shaft didn’t move.
02:31 PM andypugh: I typed in “1000” for rpm, but it was set for RPS and tried to go to 60,000 rpm,
02:32 PM Loetmichel: thats a BIT much for a stepper ;)
02:32 PM andypugh: I have had it to 10,000 rpm
02:32 PM andypugh: It’s a bit smaller than yours
02:33 PM Tom_L: seems a bit high for a stepper
02:33 PM Loetmichel: the benefits of a LPT driven machine... had to set the drivers to 16 microsteps to get to 120mm/sec at all
02:33 PM Loetmichel: with his 10mm per rev ballscrews
02:33 PM Loetmichel: aka: a bit more than 10 revs per second
02:34 PM Loetmichel: its not mine
02:34 PM Loetmichel: coworker is builiding a "CNC router"
02:35 PM andypugh: This is the stepper I am playing with. https://photos.app.goo.gl/kxNjcecFDvpDRU8r5
02:35 PM Loetmichel: but with 80mm square steel tube as a frame , 5 of those steppers and a 3kw aircooled spindle
02:35 PM Loetmichel: how cute!
02:36 PM Loetmichel: andypugh: thats his Controller box (old scratched PC case from the company i work for): http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17547&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
02:36 PM Loetmichel: i think he is doing it right
02:37 PM Loetmichel: did i mention that he welded the frame to have 2000mm by 1500mm by 600mm travel?
02:37 PM andypugh: They are very cheap: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273212998941
02:38 PM andypugh: Like, pennies each.
02:38 PM andypugh: Is the VFD OK mounted in that orientation?
02:39 PM jym: Amazon, instacart, target, fedex, walmart are going on strike monday
02:39 PM Loetmichel: it has forced air cooling. so yes
02:40 PM jym: whole foods too
02:44 PM dirty_d: hmm, this seems to have no effect: setp axis.x.jog-vel-mode true
02:44 PM dirty_d: the axis keeps moving after I stop moving the jog wheel
02:45 PM dirty_d: like if I have a large step size and the max velocity can't keep up with how fast im turning the wheel
02:49 PM pcw_home: "setp axis.x.jog-vel-mode true" will be a no-op until you are homed
02:56 PM dirty_d: ohhhhh
02:57 PM pcw_home: if you also setp joint.x.jog-vel-mode true you are covered in pre-homed and homed cases
02:59 PM dirty_d: so you can only set joint.x.jog-vel-mode and not have to set the axis one?
03:03 PM dirty_d: Oh actually I guess that's not what I want
03:04 PM dirty_d: I figured it would stop on a multiple of the step size even in velocity mode
03:11 PM dirty_d: i want to show the position that the machine will end up at when it reaches where I jogged it to, i should use axis.x.teleop-pos-cmd right?
03:20 PM pcw_home: that's beyond my pay grade...
03:28 PM dirty_d: seems to work
03:51 PM dirty_d: nope that's not it, that's in the machine coordinate system
03:53 PM Tom_L: andypugh, did you have alot of dependency issues building linuxcnc on that rtai?
03:53 PM Tom_L: err buster
03:53 PM andypugh: Not _issues_ as such
03:55 PM Tom_L: tcl mismatch 8.6 vs tsl ant tk
03:55 PM Tom_L: tcl mismatch 8.6 vs tcl ant tk
03:57 PM andypugh: cd linuxcnc-dev
03:57 PM andypugh: ./debian/configure -r
03:58 PM andypugh: dpkg-checkbuilddeps
03:58 PM andypugh: (Or have you already done that?)
03:58 PM Tom_L: no not yet
03:58 PM Tom_L: i did ./autogen.sh and ./config --disable-gtk
03:59 PM Tom_L: been adding libs as needed
03:59 PM andypugh: That works too
03:59 PM Tom_L: main dev dir or src?
03:59 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure what lib that one needs though
03:59 PM andypugh: the one under debian
04:00 PM Tom_L: i don't see a debian subdir
04:01 PM Tom_L: i'm installing this from the /home/user//master/src directory
04:06 PM Deejay: gn8
04:28 PM andypugh: it’s in the same dir as scripts=, tests etc
05:02 PM unterhaus_: Tom_L did you get a kernel built?
05:25 PM veegee: I have a problem, my Lincoln Viking auto darking likes to turn off when TIG welding
05:25 PM veegee: especially when the cup starts to obstruct part of the arc
05:25 PM veegee: I have the sensitivity set to max, but looks like it's not sensitive enough
05:26 PM veegee: It works with a pyrex cup but I can't use that all the time
05:26 PM veegee: Is this normal, or is it defective?
05:26 PM veegee: My cheapo $100 auto darkening helmet has a sensitivity range that triggers when looking at a desk lamp so that's great. This thing doesn't seem to be sensitive enough
05:28 PM veegee: And yes I made sure the front is clean and all that
06:02 PM _unreal_: ve7it, I got my POS box going to rebuild it when I get a chance/time etc... got my holes done. going to start loading parts into it and I'm going to make sure its modular so I can strip all the @#$@#$#@ parts out and put them in the new box when I build it
06:25 PM dirty_d: Sweeeeet, I made my own userspace hal component for my vistacnc p2-s
06:25 PM dirty_d: https://photos.app.goo.gl/n1hgmRnZVXkLGSht7
06:25 PM dirty_d: I only have jogging and zeroing working so far
06:26 PM dirty_d: but you can zero with an offset that you choose with the dial, can't do that with the component they provide
06:27 PM dirty_d: this is quite the learning experience
06:35 PM Tom_L: unterhaus_, i did
06:35 PM Tom_L: still working on a linuxcnc build
06:36 PM Tom_L: _unreal_, never did see your box
07:34 PM CaptHindsight: dirty_d: is this the MPG that had lots of discussion on the mail list?
07:35 PM gregcnc: capt you ready for another month of this?
07:35 PM CaptHindsight: heh, I just log out :)
07:35 PM gregcnc: out of IL?
07:36 PM JavaBean: logging out of RL is rather painful
07:36 PM unterhaus_: Tom_L any secrets to the kernel build?
07:37 PM dirty_d: CaptHindsight, I'm not sure, have a link?
07:38 PM CaptHindsight: dirty_d: on the ML somewhere :)
07:51 PM Tom_L: unterhaus_, i'm waiting to see how the linuxcnc build goes before i say
07:53 PM Tom_L: unterhaus_, ^^ andypugh> When configuring the NTULINUX version of RTAI I have to change the install location to /usr/realtime-4.14.174-rtai-amd64
07:53 PM Tom_L: i haven't reached an end result yet
07:56 PM _unreal_: tom?? I posted the images
07:56 PM _unreal_: unreal_> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oFKu3KSng5dfsDN-0PDKjvcjW53DhB_q https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oDvm36DGsqb6uO2yvpbiH9L4cP1IavoB https://drive.google.com/open?id=1o8IHcEOIxtDsvRoC6JXarxc0tJ8AEW4Q https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oBumREroOJCuSqaEKQf4ArOw_VKBpKLB https://drive.google.com/open?id=1o97VIJZmuPgp7cbOxaL17NrMCUi2x_9w
07:56 PM _unreal_: <_unreal_> Tom_L,
07:56 PM Tom_L: i was afk i guess i missed em
07:56 PM _unreal_: fugly
07:57 PM _unreal_: I'm going to rebuild the box when I have the cash/time
07:57 PM _unreal_: well I have the cash
07:57 PM _unreal_: just hit $4k in the stock market :)
07:57 PM _unreal_: Now I'm starting to have big plays
07:57 PM Tom_L: so the box isn't that big
07:57 PM _unreal_: no
07:57 PM Tom_L: i bet you could find a rittal that size for a decent price
07:58 PM _unreal_: when I get the motor controllers all mounted and the motion controller and small PSU and other parts
07:58 PM _unreal_: it will fill the box easy
07:58 PM _unreal_: rittal
07:58 PM _unreal_: ?
07:58 PM _unreal_: is it metal?
07:58 PM _unreal_: has to be metal
07:58 PM Tom_L: they're industrial enclosures
08:02 PM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rittal-CP-6530-Enclosure-6530-200-6530200/192965568223?hash=item2ceda4e6df:g:6DkAAOSw-fldFXWx
08:02 PM Tom_L: _unreal_, there's a small one
08:03 PM _unreal_: $666665 ouch
08:03 PM _unreal_: $65 ouch
08:03 PM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RITTAL-P-AE1380-CABINET-380X380X210MM/262113125530?epid=1918321929&hash=item3d0728e49a:g:SAIAAOSwtZJZALcc
08:03 PM Tom_L: that's the size i got
08:03 PM _unreal_: I got my SHIT metal for $20 from lows
08:03 PM Tom_L: are you happy with it?
08:03 PM _unreal_: then my welder friend fucked it up
08:04 PM Tom_L: for a few bux more you could be alot happier
08:04 PM _unreal_: a box like that is far too big
08:04 PM Tom_L: not really
08:04 PM Tom_L: once you get things in it
08:04 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Control2.jpg
08:05 PM Tom_L: looks crappy but works great
08:05 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Control1.jpg
08:05 PM _unreal_: looking at the mesa card ya that box is WAY bigger then mine as well
08:05 PM Tom_L: stepper drives on the door
08:06 PM _unreal_: dude I made $225 to day in the stockmarket during break :) at work
08:06 PM Tom_L: you can well afford a rittal then :)
08:06 PM _unreal_: no I cant I need to re-envest
08:06 PM _unreal_: I willlll be a millionar in two years
08:06 PM _unreal_: I will
08:07 PM Tom_L: mkay
08:07 PM _unreal_: I'm up to $4k in a month
08:07 PM _unreal_: starting with $100
08:07 PM _unreal_: I missed a bunch of stock optoins could be upto $75k now :(
08:08 PM CaptHindsight: i turned $50k in stock into $100 cold hard cash
08:08 PM net|: im so rich they wont give me any money other than allowance
08:08 PM net|: like 1600 a month
08:09 PM net|: and i have to smoke more than normal for some reason
08:09 PM _unreal_: ya I just need a few more good trades or get ONE damn good momentum stock and I'll be up $5-15k in a heart beat
08:11 PM net|: i used to play exchanges against eachother
08:12 PM net|: easy money
08:13 PM net|: some do it with currency exchange
08:13 PM net|: us dollar and cad dollar for example back and forth
08:14 PM net|: i liked doing it with dogecoins and bitcoins because its faster and more volatile
08:15 PM net|: somehow you know its not really money though because the government cannot give you anything it does not take from the people first
08:15 PM CaptHindsight: i used to do that with 5's and 10's
08:15 PM net|: the way they make money in the movies is to get federally insured money
08:15 PM net|: thats who does not have debt anyway
08:18 PM net|: not sure if all banks have that though
08:28 PM net|: im surprised i've never seen anyone use H2S acidgas in the movies
08:29 PM net|: might be too explosive
08:30 PM net|: easy to get though
08:37 PM _unreal_: net any suggestions on what crypto to invest into before the halving?
08:38 PM net|: https://github.com/tecan/EcoCoin/tree/master/qtCoin its a coin i just started
08:38 PM _unreal_: hum
08:38 PM net|: if i can get 2k dollars i can freelance the rest
08:39 PM net|: otherwise i'll be plucking away at something thats needed for 2 or 3 more years
08:39 PM net|: could make a nice vote system too
08:39 PM net|: if you check the info file it details more
08:45 PM _unreal_: think white lithium grease would be ok as a heat sink compound?
08:46 PM Tom_L: not the best
08:46 PM Tom_L: that silver stuff is probably the best then the white
08:47 PM Tom_L: if the grease gets warm won't it melt and run out?
08:51 PM net|: https://i.imgur.com/pjYySOi.jpg << i started a casino a while ago that might be looking for investors too could make some VLT games easily
08:52 PM net|: http://www.netpipe.ca/games/lunaengine/Luna.html emscripten version i compiled at christmas
08:55 PM net|: what everyone needs though are indoor driving ranges and airsoft full auto guns and paper targets
08:58 PM net|: https://netpipe.ca/?page_id=1313 i have these too
09:00 PM net|: my latest achievement though was Ultimate Airships (hotair quadcopters)
09:01 PM net|: done properly one could probably live in the sky
09:01 PM net|: city in the sky that runs on hotair
09:07 PM dirty_d: anyone know if there is a hal pin exposing what the current coordinate system is?
09:09 PM dirty_d: doesn't look like it, I guess I can use G68
09:45 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20200430_214406.jpg
09:46 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20200430_214323.jpg
09:46 PM Eric__: I hate how amazon mixes together items, they just asked me to answer a question about an item I never bought
09:47 PM Eric__: skunkworks, that's pretty awesome, how's the fit?
09:48 PM skunkworks: Eric__: it is sloppy.. a good .005"
09:48 PM skunkworks: but it is sloppy all the way through..
09:48 PM skunkworks: :)
09:48 PM skunkworks: consistant slop
09:49 PM skunkworks: first attempt - I need to cut a smaller hex hole so my stock won't have rounded edges..
09:51 PM skunkworks: (it is pretty amazing they fit together that well - imho)
09:52 PM Tom_L: now look what sam's up to...
09:53 PM skunkworks: well - I had to see if it would fit together.. i wasn't sure it would.. ;)
09:53 PM Tom_L: you should patent it. it's a new torx drive
09:53 PM skunkworks: peter said I could make fancy security drives...
09:53 PM skunkworks: ;)
09:54 PM skunkworks: It looks like I could make them very close in tolerence and they would go together..
09:56 PM Tom_L: one day i'll get this damn kernel to build right
09:56 PM skunkworks: Tom_L: it is a pain - thanks for testing..
09:57 PM Tom_L: i got it installed but linuxcnc complains
09:57 PM Tom_L: it needs to be in a certain place for that rtai aparently
09:58 PM Tom_L: started a clean slate a bit ago
09:59 PM dirty_d: is there something new with this kernel vs the prebuilt ones?
09:59 PM Tom_L: it's rtai for buster
09:59 PM Tom_L: andy's tried it i think
10:00 PM Tom_L: but you have to build linuxcnc for it also i believe
10:01 PM dirty_d: you could just use one of the older rtai kernels though right?
10:01 PM Tom_L: no
10:01 PM Tom_L: not that i know of
10:01 PM Tom_L: you can use wheezy rtai but it's outdated
10:02 PM Tom_L: i'm using it on my mill
10:02 PM dirty_d: you can't use the wheezy kernel with buster?
10:02 PM Tom_L: no
10:04 PM dirty_d: because of ABi changes or something?