#linuxcnc Logs

Mar 24 2020

12:13 AM Wolf__: 0.o
12:20 AM Wolf__: my business partner found a tru-cut plasma table for a good price, I’m not impressed with it
12:21 AM Wolf__: well, the machine is ok, the control software. not so much
12:29 AM Wolf__: THC/torch reference has been glitching out time to time, sometimes the machine dro will say its zeroed to the workpeice but on cycle start will think its at -60”,-30” which causes the machine to take off and crash if you dont catch it…
12:32 AM Wolf__: And one thing that really made me go WTF was that the manual from Tru-Cut states not to use soft limits or machine cords ever…
04:08 AM XXCoder: hey pink_vampire
04:13 AM pink_vampire: hi XXCoder
04:14 AM XXCoder: whats up
04:14 AM pink_vampire: not much
04:14 AM XXCoder: work is very slow :(
04:14 AM pink_vampire: everything is slow now
04:15 AM XXCoder: company will not close even if wa state goes into lockdown
04:15 AM XXCoder: essental work
04:15 AM XXCoder: but we have very serious underflow of jobs due to 737 max failure and boeing closedown for 2 weeks
04:16 AM pink_vampire: WOW
04:28 AM Deejay: moin
04:32 AM pink_vampire: hi Deejay
04:34 AM p0g0: XXCoder, Boeing, per todays papers, also cut P8 & the air tanker lines. As a guess, compounding their own flaws, it will be a while. Toyota, here, has kicked the can down the road a couple of times, i wouldn't try to guess when that production line will restart.
04:35 AM XXCoder: p0 yeah 70% of company business is boeing
04:35 AM XXCoder: 40% 737 max
04:36 AM p0g0: monocultures vs diversity...
04:37 AM XXCoder: yeah company have been working on diversity
04:37 AM XXCoder: have done pretty well
04:37 AM Loetmichel: hmpf. The "fun" you can have wit post processors... $me is just trying to get CURA to support those magenta ringed corners better... any ideas? -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17760&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
04:44 AM rmu|w: Loetmichel: make 2 parts, glue them together
04:46 AM Loetmichel: rmu|w: not an option, must look impeccable, its a visible part.
04:46 AM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17690&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
04:46 AM Loetmichel: those black corners to hide the miter cuts in the alu
04:56 AM Tom_L: morning
04:57 AM pink_vampire: hi Tom_L
05:46 AM jthornton: morning
05:56 AM XXCoder: hey
05:56 AM XXCoder: cell im running is running out of jobs :(
05:56 AM XXCoder: only 3 jobs left and thats it. normally we always have months lineup and we already finished
06:08 AM * Loetmichel is just facing off his vacuum table. with a 35mm diameter wood router slot tool in the spindle. QUITE scary at 24krpm :-)
06:08 AM XXCoder: fun
06:51 AM SpeedEvil: :) :(
07:24 AM net|: https://i.imgur.com/CxUPAKC.jpg
07:31 AM net|: couple paste togethers i found searching web.
07:54 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: imagie THAT but with a mill bit twice the diameter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEQZ_TY5q8o
07:55 AM Loetmichel: ... and pertinax instead of MDF :)
08:23 AM jymmmm: one sq mile is 640 acres, interesting
09:39 AM skunkworks: it is 80 acres X 80 acres
09:39 AM skunkworks: maybe
09:39 AM skunkworks: that can't be right
09:45 AM gregcnc: the 40 acreplots typically seen in rural areas are 1/4 mile x 1/4mile
10:02 AM unterhaus: I was probably in close proximity to someone with covid19 on the 7th
10:03 AM unterhaus: I guess that wasn't just a cold I had last week :)
10:23 AM p0g0: an acre is 204' on a side, 43560 sq feet, 640 acres to a square mile.
10:49 AM SpeedEvil: Just remember an acre as 0.404586 hectares. Easy.
11:20 AM rmu|w: Loetmichel: as long as you stay below the speed of sound...
11:42 AM jymmmm: FYI... If you need to help pick up someone after a fall, you can use a sheet under their butt as a lift swing
11:47 AM jymmmm: unterhaus: zinc and https://www.amazon.com/BulkSupplements-Quercetin-Dihydrate-Powder-Grams/dp/B00GW1TVTM
11:47 AM jymmmm: unterhaus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7F1cnWup9M
11:47 AM Loetmichel: rmu|w: sound isnt the problem here... not trusting the ER11 collet to hold that hunk of metal in at 24krpm is the problem :-)
11:48 AM jymmmm: Loetmichel: secure at 48K rpm though
11:48 AM Loetmichel: Jymmm: you think so? :-)
11:52 AM jymmmm: Loetmichel: I stopped thinking long ago
12:03 PM Loetmichel: would you feel confident having this but in 36mm diameter running in a spindle with ER11? -> https://www.sautershop.com/grooving-cutter-z2-m3015-70-8-ti-m3015-70-8
12:04 PM Loetmichel: thats quite a hunk of metal
12:05 PM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17709&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 <- lower picture in the mill bit stand., the orange hunk
12:20 PM Rab: Loetmichel, it depends on how you're holding an 8mm shank in ER11.
12:28 PM Loetmichel: with an oversized er11 collet
12:46 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
12:53 PM Loetmichel: Rab: you can buy ER11 collets with 8mm, although thats not within spec
12:57 PM CaptHindsight: from a sales brochure https://imagebin.ca/v/5Gfg9nbI5sMC which mill is more rigid?
12:58 PM Loetmichel: problem is that the 800W watercooled spindles only have a (8mm hollow) 14mm shaft... thats NOT much if you develop a unbalance on that router bit and full speed
01:01 PM Rab: CaptHindsight, what is your agenda with this question
01:02 PM CaptHindsight: jymmmm: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/man-dies-after-ingesting-chloroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166
01:03 PM CaptHindsight: Rab: getting to their agenda
01:03 PM gregcnc: i wsa trying to figure out what the dosage is in meds
01:04 PM roycroft: that guy died from eating fish tank cleaner that contained chloroquine
01:04 PM roycroft: not a prescription drug
01:04 PM roycroft: and the dosage of chloroquine to treat covid-19 is 0.000000000mg
01:05 PM CaptHindsight: so don't drink a bottle of bleach?
01:05 PM roycroft: do not even do the bleach pod challenge
01:05 PM cradek: that poor woman
01:06 PM roycroft: and for that matter, i would recommend against doing the "lick a toilet for coronoavirus" challengs
01:06 PM Rab: CaptHindsight, if their labeling is to be believed, I infer at least 8 axes plus ATC on the mill at left...looks awesome, furiously adding to cart.
01:06 PM roycroft: it's really sad that i would have to say that
01:06 PM SpeedEvil: The trial that lead to this found it inhibited replication of the virus, but more people taking it died than in the control arm
01:06 PM roycroft: but it needs to be said
01:06 PM roycroft: the "trial" was a single, isolated study of 20 people
01:07 PM roycroft: and yes, even that provided no useful anecodotal information
01:07 PM gregcnc: they are trialing in NY now
01:07 PM roycroft: but it was enough for the faux news folks to jump all over it
01:08 PM roycroft: and that meant, of course, that president fuckhead who knows more about medicine ("i have a knack for it") than the entire collective global medical community, now recommends it so that people can get back to work
01:09 PM roycroft: that couple who ate fish tank cleaner did it because the president told them to
01:09 PM roycroft: he should be charged with murder for that
01:09 PM gregcnc: wow
01:10 PM CaptHindsight: note to self: dosage matters
01:10 PM roycroft: note to all: credentials matter
01:11 PM roycroft: failing at business is not a valid credential to practise medicine
01:11 PM roycroft: being a successful carnival barker is not a valid credential to practise medicine
01:12 PM CaptHindsight: carnival barkers are not dogs
01:14 PM roycroft: i'd take the medical advise of a dog before i'd take it from our president
01:14 PM gregcnc: i guess there are better thigns to do today
01:15 PM roycroft: dogs are loyal to their owners and want them to be healthy and well
01:15 PM CaptHindsight: warm weather on the way here!
01:15 PM gregcnc: yes I'm ready, probably take the family out out one of the parks
01:16 PM methods_: i think he should continue to give medical advice to his cult members
01:16 PM roycroft: that would be a class c misdemeanor in oregon at the moment, gregcnc
01:16 PM methods_: maybe they'll all eat some fish tank cleaner
01:16 PM roycroft: methods_: i don't want anyone to die
01:16 PM gregcnc: stlll legal in IL
01:16 PM roycroft: not even the base
01:17 PM methods_: but it's what they want
01:17 PM methods_: you gotta give the people what they want
01:17 PM roycroft: even if they want to die
01:17 PM methods_: the customer is always right
01:17 PM roycroft: that's not true at all
01:17 PM methods_: probably not
01:17 PM roycroft: the customer should, whenever possible, be made to feel that the customer is right
01:17 PM methods_: sounded good though
01:17 PM roycroft: but the customer is often wrong
01:19 PM methods_: as someone who has had the corona virus and taken chloroquine several times in the past i have to tell you i'd much rather have the corona virus
01:19 PM methods_: chloroquine is miserable shit
01:19 PM methods_: i'm talkin about the actual medicine not the fish tank cleaner
01:20 PM CaptHindsight: was wondering
01:20 PM methods_: yeah i'm not a trump voter i took the medicine stuff for malaria
01:20 PM methods_: not the fish tank cleaner
01:20 PM CaptHindsight: did it help?
01:20 PM methods_: i don't know i didn't get malaria
01:20 PM methods_: so i guess?
01:21 PM methods_: i didn't take it for corona virus
01:21 PM methods_: i was sick for a couple hours on saturday and weirdly another couple hours on sunday
01:21 PM methods_: very strange disease
01:21 PM CaptHindsight: just pushed through it?
01:21 PM methods_: saturday was just fever, muscle aches and headache
01:22 PM methods_: sunday was the cough for like 4 hours
01:22 PM methods_: and then gone like i never had anytyhing
01:22 PM methods_: very very strange disease
01:22 PM CaptHindsight: have had similar symptoms over the past month myself
01:22 PM methods_: i honestly don't think i've ever had anything quite like it
01:23 PM gregcnc: it's appearently a very common med for prevention of malaria when you travel
01:23 PM methods_: yeah that's what i've taken it for
01:23 PM methods_: and mefliquine i think
01:23 PM methods_: or something like that
01:24 PM CaptHindsight: what were your side effects?
01:24 PM methods_: but definitely chloroquine 2x
01:24 PM gregcnc: people take it for years
01:24 PM methods_: side effects from cholorqu9ine?
01:24 PM CaptHindsight: yes
01:24 PM methods_: headache, photophobia
01:24 PM methods_: just feel like shit
01:24 PM methods_: and DO NOT drink milk
01:24 PM methods_: unless you want to make interesting art
01:25 PM methods_: projectile art lol
01:25 PM gregcnc: i read a covid19 account that said somethign about itchy burning painful eyes. I had somethign like that recently
01:25 PM methods_: oh yeah my eyes were very weird i forgot about that
01:25 PM methods_: i had super blurry vision
01:26 PM Rab: methods_, any effect on your sense of smell?
01:26 PM methods_: the wife had it asymptomatic i think
01:26 PM CaptHindsight: I have had all the symptoms of Covid-19 and many other diseases
01:26 PM methods_: yeah my wife was smelling crazy smells
01:26 PM skunkworks: wow - wd40 does work ok for removing silly putty from fabric
01:26 PM methods_: i didn't have any smell symptoms but for about 30 min my face went completely numb
01:26 PM methods_: one side of it
01:26 PM gregcnc: my kids were boht sick. daughter longer than usual, but she tested for flu
01:27 PM methods_: like getting a shot at the dentist numb
01:27 PM methods_: very weird
01:27 PM methods_: that scared me a little bit
01:27 PM gregcnc: wow
01:27 PM methods_: and the next day i had bad chest pain with the cough
01:27 PM CaptHindsight: methods_: do you know which test they used for you?
01:27 PM methods_: i thought i was having a heart attack
01:27 PM methods_: they woulndn't give me a test
01:27 PM methods_: i had a viral respiratory illness
01:28 PM methods_: definitely not corona virus
01:28 PM methods_: definitely just a viral respiratory illness
01:28 PM methods_: no need to test
01:30 PM methods_: i was speechless but expected nothing less
01:31 PM methods_: don't want those corona virus confirmations getting too high
01:32 PM CaptHindsight: how Russia is handling it as well, can't have positives if you don't test
01:32 PM methods_: yup
01:32 PM methods_: just lots of pneumonia deaths
01:33 PM CaptHindsight: one of the reasons my dad left Russia in the 40's
01:34 PM CaptHindsight: it's funny how many people don't see the same things going on around them while living in it
01:35 PM methods_: well the silly part is that if they did more testing it would drive down the mortality rate
01:35 PM CaptHindsight: same in China, they believe the narrative vs their own eyes and ears
01:36 PM methods_: but nope they're not going to test and inflate the shit out of the mortality rate
01:36 PM CaptHindsight: the workers are expendable
01:36 PM methods_: sure but i don't think it's a whole lot more deadly than the normal flu
01:36 PM methods_: if they were testing you'd see that
01:37 PM methods_: but since there not the only people getting tested are the ones dying or the worst cases that are hospitalized
01:37 PM methods_: s/there/they're
01:37 PM CaptHindsight: how are you feeling today?
01:37 PM methods_: i'm fine
01:37 PM methods_: like nothing ever happened
01:37 PM methods_: i ran 4 miles this morning
01:38 PM methods_: i picked up the pace a few times to see if i had any issues but only when i was really pushin it i could feel it a bit in the chest still
01:38 PM methods_: i was only running 9 min/mile pace so i wasn't really running fast or anything
01:40 PM gregcnc: people were paying crazy money for chloroquine phosphate on ebay
01:40 PM CaptHindsight: a friends sister ended up in the ICU a few weeks back before the news of cases here started
01:41 PM gregcnc: all listings even completed pulled
01:41 PM skunkworks: I have had the 'flu' twice in the last few months. Still coughing up crud.
01:41 PM CaptHindsight: unknown viral pneumonia
01:42 PM roycroft: people are looking for miracle cures
01:42 PM gregcnc: LD50 is high though
01:42 PM roycroft: something that is 100% effective and totally painless
01:42 PM CaptHindsight: eat well , exercise, get plenty of rest is one
01:42 PM roycroft: and they're unwilling to accept that no such cure exists
01:43 PM roycroft: i agree 100% that maintaining a healthy lifestyle is great at preventing the disease, and at mitigating the effects should one contract it anyway
01:43 PM gregcnc: for me staying hydrated with nausea is hard
01:43 PM methods_: i didn't get any nausea with this
01:44 PM CaptHindsight: stay off facebook and avoid kardashisans for mental health
01:44 PM gregcnc: and for last few years if i get sick, headache and nausea is about all i get
01:44 PM methods_: definitely fatigue and headaches
01:44 PM roycroft: i already do that, capthindsight :)
01:45 PM roycroft: although i did read about some taylor swift/kardashian feud today, and found it mildly entertaining
01:45 PM CaptHindsight: haven't gotten to the pop news section yet
01:46 PM Rab: Our stay-at-home order goes in tonight, but outdoor (solo) exercise is specifically exempted. Good thing too, perfect spring weather.
01:47 PM CaptHindsight: Rab: same here, I notice the police patrolling the parks since the playgrounds are closed
01:47 PM gregcnc: really? wife asked me if they would be
01:47 PM CaptHindsight: park are open, just not the playgrounds
01:48 PM Rab: Same here, until the parks and trails become packed with people I guess.
01:48 PM CaptHindsight: outdoor basketball courts and tennis are open
01:48 PM gregcnc: right, I mean the cops checking the playgrounds
01:48 PM gregcnc: basketball with 6 ft rule?
01:48 PM CaptHindsight: yeah, i walk everyday and it is where i always seem then parked
01:49 PM methods_: heheh only allowed to play horse
01:49 PM CaptHindsight: have only seen solo or half court hoop shooters
01:49 PM CaptHindsight: lots of kids on the bike paths
01:49 PM CaptHindsight: and they are staying a few feet apart
01:51 PM CaptHindsight: people around here are walking way off to the side when you pass
01:56 PM roycroft: that's permitted here - solitary outdoor exercise
01:57 PM roycroft: but our parks are all closed
01:57 PM roycroft: the bike paths are still open
01:58 PM pcw_mesa: The somewhat scary thing is that with the current # of deaths (which take ~3 weeks post infection). it means that when reported US cases were ~100 we likely had 10000 or more
01:58 PM roycroft: our deaths, if we continue to try to contain and isolate, will be in the tens to hundreds of thousands
01:59 PM roycroft: if we all go back to normal life on easter as president fuckhead wants, it will likely be in the millions
01:59 PM pcw_mesa: help the economy, kill the seniors!
02:00 PM roycroft: i am not willing to die for the dow
02:00 PM roycroft: i am over 60, and at high risk, so i'm taking that pretty personally
02:01 PM roycroft: i had pneumonia a few years ago and suffered some permanent lung scarring from it
02:01 PM roycroft: that puts me in the extremely high risk category
02:02 PM pcw_mesa: not good I'm 68 but in decent overall health
02:02 PM roycroft: your age alone puts you at high risk
02:02 PM roycroft: but being otherwise healthy is good
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: are people supposed to alternate between day and night pajamas or just change every 2-3 days?
02:08 PM gregcnc: depends if you leave the house
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: not so sure :)
02:08 PM gregcnc: and if you have any toilet paper left
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: did you see the TP calculator?
02:09 PM CaptHindsight: https://howmuchtoiletpaper.com/
02:09 PM CaptHindsight: people have years worth
02:09 PM MovT: hi @ll
02:10 PM gregcnc: supposedly those people just put a teaspoon the cp powder in water and downed it
02:10 PM MovT: hop all are well in these days
02:10 PM CaptHindsight: MovT: hello
02:18 PM MovT: i am fighting with the opengl preview on LCNC 2.8 to change the ruler digits och disable them complete. i searched viea google and the forums but nothing found. anybody here have a hint?
02:19 PM MovT: och=or
02:19 PM cradek: did you try all the options on the View menu?
02:21 PM MovT: cradek, yes. i use QtPyVCP and the Probe_Basic there are no options and no menu
02:21 PM Tom_L: did you ask over there?
02:21 PM Tom_L: in #hazzy
02:22 PM MovT: Tom_L, is that a channel for QTPyVCP?
02:22 PM Tom_L: yes
02:23 PM Tom_L: and probe basic
02:23 PM cradek: oh sorry, I assumed you were talking about AXIS, I don't know otherwise
02:23 PM Tom_L: me too at first
02:24 PM MovT: sorry for the misunderstanding. i joined #hazzy and ask there again. thanks Tom_L and cradek
02:39 PM MovT: silence in #hazzy :|
02:40 PM MovT: maybe all are out for shopping :/
02:41 PM Tom_L: hazzy or turboboss should answer when they are there
02:41 PM Tom_L: timezones
02:41 PM CaptHindsight: TurBoss has been awol in Spain
02:41 PM Tom_L: then there is that
02:42 PM MovT: yea same timezone like mine. gmt+1
02:42 PM MovT: i am in germany
02:42 PM MovT: i am not in a hurry
02:43 PM Tom_L: just leave the log on and check in later
02:43 PM MovT: i try to dig in the code... guess there is all the stuff around the opengl viewer
02:43 PM MovT: yes i will do.
02:45 PM Tom_L: if you use riot and matrix you don't even have to be on for it to capture for you
02:47 PM Tom_L: https://about.riot.im/downloads
02:47 PM Tom_L: most of them use it over there
02:55 PM MovT: thnx but the pc for linuxcnc is always on and i use it for most things i do :) its an industrial pc by HISTTON. i love it. builtin RS485 and 6 com ports wifiy and gbit copper 8 usb ports 2.0 + 3.0... more you cant expect
03:58 PM MovT: re
03:58 PM MovT: hehe time for riot :]
03:59 PM XXCoder: riot for what
03:59 PM XXCoder: also, sigh. https://imgur.com/a/xKyFLbX
04:00 PM CaptHindsight: sounds reasonable
04:00 PM XXCoder: isnt that opposite of social distancing? heh
04:01 PM CaptHindsight: body condoms
04:04 PM XXCoder: gimp suit? :P
04:08 PM gregcnc: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/see-what-life-during-a-pandemic-looks-like-for-people-across-the-us-2020-03-24
04:13 PM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HCN530
04:13 PM perry_j1987: hows it going guys
04:15 PM rmu|w: female virologist that was interviewed by public austrian radio said "I would not go to whorehouse at the moment, not even with a face mask"
04:20 PM gregcnc: perry_j1987 i guess the trip to the whorehouse is cancelled
04:20 PM perry_j1987: lol
04:20 PM perry_j1987: crazy stuff going on out there
04:40 PM Deejay: gn8
07:35 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, typical politician
08:12 PM flyback: bmcc
10:33 PM _unreal_: quiet
10:55 PM Tom_L: shhh, we're all under quarantine
10:56 PM rue_mohr: ARE WE BEING QUIET NOW?
11:28 PM * _unreal_ is not :p