#linuxcnc Logs
Feb 18 2020
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:05 AM hellosquireel: https://www.phidgets.com/productfiles/3317/3317_1/Documentation/3317_1_Mechanical.pdf
12:10 AM hellosquireel: I'm wondering how you would go about calculating to get the ~1 micron/step
12:10 AM hellosquireel: Based on those specs
12:23 AM CaptHindsight: hellosquireel: 5mm per rev screw, then 1:18 gear reduction, 5 /18 = 0.2777 mm per motor rev
12:23 AM CaptHindsight: 0.2777777mm / 200 steps per rev = 0.001388mm
12:23 AM CaptHindsight: so no microstepping
12:24 AM CaptHindsight: but your planetary gearbox will likely have a few deg of backlash
12:27 AM CaptHindsight: hellosquireel: you likely flipped the gear ratios around
12:28 AM CaptHindsight: 1 on the left and 18 on the right , 1:18 for that calculator
12:28 AM hellosquireel: So, I was wrong about the Gear Ratio
12:28 AM hellosquireel: It actually says 5.18:1
12:29 AM CaptHindsight: ok then with 1:5.18 you'll get 200 steps per mm with no microstepping
12:30 AM hellosquireel: which is 0.00483 mm
12:30 AM hellosquireel: So, is that then the distance traveled in 1 rev?
12:31 AM hellosquireel: or is it 0.97 mm/ rev
12:32 AM hellosquireel: Ohhhh it'd be 0.00483 mm/step
12:33 AM CaptHindsight: your numbers are slightly off
12:34 AM hellosquireel: What would it be/how do I calculate it
12:35 AM CaptHindsight: close enough
12:37 AM CaptHindsight: 5mm / 200 = 0.025 / 5.18 = 0.4826
12:39 AM CaptHindsight: sorry tired, 0.004826 mm
12:41 AM hellosquireel: All good
12:42 AM hellosquireel: So, that's 4 microns there
12:42 AM hellosquireel: To get it to 1 micron/step I would change the lead screw to something more precise
12:44 AM CaptHindsight: or 4 microsteps per full step
12:44 AM CaptHindsight: 1/4th
12:45 AM CaptHindsight: or by 8 steps for 1/8th of the 0.004826 mm
12:45 AM hellosquireel: 4 microsteps per step
12:45 AM hellosquireel: So, to get 1 micron/step
12:46 AM CaptHindsight: plus 2-3 deg of backlash at the motor, so when you reverse directions you'll be off by a few microsteps
12:47 AM CaptHindsight: likely 5-10um
12:49 AM hellosquireel: So, I think I'm going to tell the client that getting the steps down to 1 micron per step isn't realistic
12:49 AM CaptHindsight: move x to -1mm and then a move to +1 will be 5-10 microns short of that
12:49 AM CaptHindsight: if you use closed loop you can be there theoretically
12:50 AM hellosquireel: Closed loop only really works with a servo motor though
12:50 AM CaptHindsight: closed loop stepper
12:51 AM CaptHindsight: but now you'll need 0.5um scales
12:51 AM hellosquireel: This is so complicated lol
12:51 AM hellosquireel: We also have an encoder
12:52 AM CaptHindsight: http://www.dropros.com/DRO_PROS_Digital_Readout_Scale.htm
12:53 AM CaptHindsight: 1um scales ^^
12:53 AM hellosquireel: That's quite the scale
12:54 AM CaptHindsight: http://moticont.com/OEM-001U-01.htm
12:55 AM hellosquireel: I really appreciate your knowledge
12:55 AM hellosquireel: Have yourself a great night!
02:44 AM pink_vampire: Sorry kvirc got crazy abit
02:44 AM XXCoder: heh
02:45 AM XXCoder: hows things
02:45 AM pink_vampire: I"m trying to build 3d pen
02:45 AM pink_vampire: I got the stepper to work, and also pid for the hotend
02:46 AM XXCoder: i bet you can use one of those micro displays
02:46 AM pink_vampire: now I need to fin a way to make a potentiometer based trigger
02:46 AM pink_vampire: you mean the oled?
02:46 AM pink_vampire: yeah, that will be cool
02:47 AM XXCoder: yeah tiny one
02:47 AM pink_vampire: "You have been kicked from #arduino by ardubot"
02:47 AM XXCoder: something like https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32672327708.html
02:48 AM pink_vampire: "You are banned from this channel"
02:48 AM XXCoder: odd
02:49 AM XXCoder: thats quite fast kick
02:50 AM pink_vampire: I think it because the auto login open several windows in short time.
03:47 AM Deejay: moin
03:48 AM XXCoder: pink_vampire: bet its short term ban
03:48 AM XXCoder: try rejoin
03:48 AM pink_vampire: they got me in again!
03:49 AM XXCoder: nice
03:49 AM pink_vampire: I sent PM to one of the ops
03:49 AM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/KzXhiAM.png
03:49 AM pink_vampire: this is what I'm working on
03:51 AM pink_vampire: other then the on/of trigger in this drill, it is the best thing ever because it is charge via usb
03:52 AM XXCoder: interesting
03:55 AM pink_vampire: do you know what is the name for the drill button?
03:55 AM XXCoder: nope unfortunately
03:56 AM XXCoder: maybe its based on coil resistance rangfe
03:56 AM XXCoder: not sure its exact name but basic concept
05:04 AM Tom_L: morning
05:08 AM jthornton: morning
05:08 AM XXCoder: morning
05:55 AM Loetmichel: gnihi... just ordered tungsten carbide bits for 396 eur at sorotec.de... that gets expensive fast for a few dozen mill bits. Boss will be "amused" (not) ':)
05:55 AM XXCoder: for extra fun look for cobolt ones
05:56 AM XXCoder: its rarely needed but its extremely strong
05:56 AM Loetmichel: you mean HSS-CO?
05:56 AM Loetmichel: those are a LOT cheaper than Tungsten carbide bits
05:56 AM XXCoder: hmm maybe? all I know is cobolt part lol
07:06 AM Loetmichel: *grmbl* WHY is it that i have to get ALL the thumbdrives out of my pocket when i want a specific one? its ALWAYS the last one to get out. (transfering data to the CNC Router) :-(
07:07 AM Tom_L: the real question is why you still using tennis shoe network
07:11 AM Loetmichel: Tom_L: because the linuxCNC install is out of repositorys and i dont have Samba installed in time
07:40 AM fogl81: Hello everybod. I am reading the /hal/components source and noticed that some components have the hal_export_function for every instance/number of the component (for example siggen.c), but some components have only one hal_export_function for all the instances (for example encoder.c). Is there a reason for this?
07:51 AM jymmmm: good morning
09:46 AM selroc: hello
10:57 AM skunkworks: Bushman: yes - I installed the linuxcnc livecd on this laptop.. :)
10:57 AM skunkworks: oops
12:25 PM veegee: In the context of portable generators, I'm guessing start/stop cycles are the hardest on the engine in terms of wear
12:25 PM veegee: I want to make my generator more efficient since it's idling 50% of the time
12:26 PM veegee: Keeping the cylinder head warm with a temperature controlled mechanism when the engine is off should eliminate that wear right?
12:26 PM veegee: I know not worth the effort, but more just a project for fun
12:27 PM veegee: I could wrap the cylinder head fins with some copper pipe and convert it to liquid cooling and use that to hold the cylinder at a specific temperature
12:42 PM Rab: veegee, I believe a primary wear factor is oil distribution. Oil drains from the engine in the off state, and increases viscosity as it cools. You could experiment with an electric oil pump to build up oil pressure before turning over the engine, and with multiweight oils.
12:42 PM veegee: ah yeah good point, this isn't pressure lubricated
12:43 PM veegee: I also have an old snowblower engine in good shape that I don't use anymore
12:44 PM Rab: You mentioned a 50% duty cycle...is that in terms of seconds, minutes, or hours?
12:49 PM Rab: I don't know anything about your generator, but some inverter generators like the famous Honda EU2000i have an "eco-throttle" mode which adjusts engine speed to match current draw. Maybe that type of control would give a bigger efficiency gain plus emissions and wear performance vs outright turning the engine off.
01:11 PM veegee: In terms of 15 - 30 minute periods where it's not needed
01:12 PM veegee: Also just realized - industrial electric motor powered air compressors have a "continuous run" option where it holds the intake valve open to keep the pump running. I can't think of any reason you'd want to do that
01:12 PM veegee: Is that just to keep the pump lubricated?
01:12 PM veegee: For gasoline engine powered compressors, it makes sense, but for electric motor compressors, why not just stop the motor when the set pressure is reached?
01:22 PM unterhaus_: I know someone that heats his factory with the air compressors. Air bearing manufacturer, so there is a lot of air flowing
01:28 PM t4nk_freenode: JesseG, you mentioned something about a small drill which the chuck can't grip... would it be bad form to put some tape on it until it does grip?
01:55 PM unterhaus_: anyone do any data acquisition with linux?
02:04 PM Rab: veegee, dunno...maybe certain compressor applications require continuous flow.
03:03 PM Tom_L: veegee, pretty sure screw compressors are that way
03:05 PM veegee: Tom_L piston air compressors have an option to run in continuous mode where the compressor never stops running
03:06 PM veegee: it just holds the intake valve open when the max pressure is reached
03:06 PM veegee: You can either operate it in that mode, or the normal way which is to just shut off when max pressure is reached
03:06 PM Tom_L: right, i've seen those too
03:07 PM unterhaus_: I have angered the plumbing gods
03:07 PM veegee: I just don't know why that continuous run option is there. What benefit is it supposed to have? If you have a 50% duty cycle, is stopping the compressor beneficial in any way? Running it with low load with the intake valve open is a waste of energy, still creates wear on the components, etc. So what's the benefit?
03:07 PM veegee: Sure you get instant response instead of having to wait a second for the motor to spin up, but is that really an issue?
03:07 PM unterhaus_: they sell you a new compressor sooner
03:08 PM Tom_L: doesn't have the start up load for one
03:08 PM XXCoder: no sudden rumbling, just constant noise I guess
03:08 PM Tom_L: the aplications that would use that are more than likely industrial
03:09 PM XXCoder: i kinda wonder how industual ones get rid of water
03:10 PM Tom_L: https://us.fscurtis.com/pros-and-cons-of-individual-compressor-controls/?locale=en_us
03:11 PM Tom_L: XXCoder, the maintenance department
03:13 PM Deejay: gn8
03:13 PM Tom_L: buy buy
03:14 PM XXCoder: apparently theres tiny facemill
03:14 PM XXCoder: can be used on er16 but are around 2 inches wide
03:14 PM Tom_L: my sherline one is ~1"
03:15 PM XXCoder: not bad
03:16 PM XXCoder: my machine isnt tuned so i bet it would make misalign lines
03:22 PM JesseG: t4nk_freenode, It may not be bad form but it doesn't work well :P But no, the amount of surface area on a tiny drill bit shank is so small that tape adhesive acts much more like a slime. And chances are the little bit won't be very straight or centered either. I mean in a pinch you do what you gotta... but that's why I want a better way :P
03:31 PM t4nk_freenode: perhaps you could stuff some small nails down the chuck together with the bit ;)
03:33 PM p0g0_: veegee, fwiw, old school buses I have seen used a continuous duty air compressor for the brakes.
03:35 PM p0g0_: and re: the "keeping the head warm to 'eliminate' wear"... uh, no. PV=nRT to start with- the compressor by definition decreases V, hence raising T (you cannot manage a continuous temperature in the head, it is enjoying a dynamic relation with pressure).
03:35 PM p0g0_: And wear in a piston compressor is not so different than an enegine- rings, bearings, etc all wear.
03:38 PM the_wildgoose: Hi, newbie here, struggling to get off ground zero... Got a new 6i25 that I'm running through pncconf, however, when I get to testing the axis motors, I don't see any output on the parallel pins? (using a meter) How to debug further? Is there some way to see if the 6i25 is being properly assimilated and doing stuff? (Additional info, loaded
03:38 PM the_wildgoose: firmware 5abobx2, fiddling with pins 2/3 for now)
03:40 PM the_wildgoose: Perhaps there is a utility to poke pins, read input levels?
03:53 PM unterhaus_: are you trying to read empty pins?
05:13 PM Bushman: ave
05:23 PM Bushman: regarding the image-to-gcode filter, i still haven't figured out what is the problem with the file that makes the output look like noise
05:34 PM Bushman: i have a suspition what might be the issue. it's probably color mode of the PNG.
05:35 PM Bushman: converted to grayscale and re-generating now, hope that was it!
05:41 PM Bushman: nope, that's not it.
05:42 PM Bushman: i'm starting to lose hope.
05:42 PM Bushman: i have two files, one works, one doesn't.
05:42 PM XXCoder: i wonder if its reading metadata
05:42 PM Bushman: and i have no idea what's the difference between them
05:43 PM Bushman: i've literally copy/pasted my image into the other file while opened in gimp
05:43 PM Bushman: AND IT WORKS!
05:43 PM Bushman: gaaah!
05:43 PM Bushman: why!?
05:43 PM XXCoder: try open orginial then strip all metadata out of it
05:44 PM Bushman: hmm...
05:44 PM XXCoder: if it works then you found a bug
05:44 PM Bushman: how do i do that in gimp?
05:44 PM XXCoder: dont save over orginial!
05:44 PM XXCoder: you'll need it for report
05:44 PM XXCoder: dunno?
05:47 PM jthornton: almost got the intake manifold off of Rusty
06:00 PM p0g0_: jthornton, intakes are usually not so bad... how are the exhaust manifold bolts?
06:01 PM jthornton: no clue they don't need to come off... wood rats ate the knock sensors wiring harness
06:02 PM p0g0_: gee, I have had possums, squirrels, mice and snakes, but never rats....the possum was a bit epic, got nailed by the fan belt and royally pissed off, I had to gas it with ether to doozy it up to the point I could get it out from under the hood.
06:03 PM XXCoder: wood rats
06:06 PM perry_j1987: hmm feel like its time to touchup the lathe threading tool
06:07 PM perry_j1987: what are you guys up too
06:07 PM jthornton: a collage guy from Illinois who was studying wood rats told me they don't come this far north... I told him to bring his traps
06:07 PM jthornton: working on chicken automation atm
06:08 PM XXCoder: just dont automate chicken automation making ;)
06:08 PM XXCoder: that way lays madness
06:08 PM Bushman: found the bug
06:08 PM XXCoder: yeah? what was it
06:10 PM XXCoder: was it metadata?
06:12 PM Bushman: http://i.imgur.com/xrttRsk.png
06:12 PM Bushman: the only thing i've changed was change canvas size by 1 pixel on one of the axes
06:12 PM XXCoder: interesting. make bug report and upload orginal image
06:12 PM Bushman: apparently it only works with perfect squares
06:13 PM Bushman: that's why my outputs looked like noise
06:14 PM Bushman: before i'll make a bug report i'll investigate a litle bit more
06:15 PM XXCoder: thats great idea
06:15 PM Bushman: i still didn't get the result i need, namely V bit with flat 3mm tip
06:15 PM XXCoder: better the report, better fixes
06:15 PM XXCoder: yeah macro assumes pointy or certain types none of cutoff v'
06:16 PM Bushman: XXCoder: just so you know, i'm doing all of this in the version from github, the built-in version is way more outdated apparently
06:16 PM Bushman: https://github.com/robomechs/image-to-gcode
06:18 PM Bushman: if it'll work, maybe someone will reconsider including the one from github in the LCNC build, cause it clearly has more options and possibly more features
06:18 PM XXCoder: maybe
06:18 PM Bushman: the manual talks about two diameters and two angles...
06:18 PM XXCoder: dev for lcnc isnt moving much lately so dunno
06:18 PM XXCoder: we need more dev leaders
06:19 PM Bushman: that kind of throws me off track, as i don't quite understand the functionality of the second angle
06:19 PM Bushman: the manual is very sparsely writen
06:21 PM XXCoder: yeah thats why document guys is seperate from fdeveloper heh
06:21 PM perry_j1987: ok handgrinding lathe threading tools. metric gets 60degree right?
06:21 PM jthornton: yea\
06:22 PM perry_j1987: and then you put a slight radius on the nose?
06:22 PM perry_j1987: or square
06:22 PM jthornton: depends on the pitch
06:22 PM perry_j1987: .7
06:22 PM jthornton: yea radius
06:22 PM jthornton: no machinist handbook?
06:22 PM perry_j1987: how does that factor in when you touch off the tool then
06:23 PM jthornton: it's just geometry
06:24 PM perry_j1987: i mean if you take the point off and then touch off on that it'd be going deeper than it thinks it is
06:24 PM jthornton: yep
06:24 PM jthornton: but you don't want a dead sharp root as it creates a stress point
06:25 PM Bushman: the need for a square image kinda throws wrenches into my workflow, as i need a rectangle for input :(
06:25 PM XXCoder: with toolchanger systems you simply measure first then grind it off
06:25 PM Bushman: otherwise i'll be milling into my vice
06:25 PM XXCoder: but with machines that dont, dunno
06:25 PM XXCoder: i got idea
06:25 PM XXCoder: you measure tool itself alone
06:25 PM perry_j1987: hmm i do have the tool in a quickchange tool post
06:26 PM XXCoder: record it, grind tip off, then measure it
06:26 PM XXCoder: you now have offset
06:26 PM XXCoder: touch it off, then add that difference to tool length
06:26 PM Bushman: yea, you need to know your tip radius
06:28 PM Bushman: you can do as XXCoder says or you can just cut the thread several times untill you hit the sweet spot, then calculate how deep you were suppose to be when that should happen :P
06:31 PM jthornton: or as a machinist might do and use thread wires to measure the thread
06:39 PM perry_j1987: lets see what happens on this run
06:39 PM perry_j1987: i've made these parts in the past but its been months heh
06:39 PM perry_j1987: so its like new now
06:46 PM _unreal_: how do..
08:07 PM _unreal_: I'm having my ass a martini
08:08 PM CaptHindsight: Bushman: what has to be perfect squares? XY of image has to be equal or?
08:08 PM _unreal_: :p and I did a lousy job mixing
08:08 PM CaptHindsight: you'll care less after the first
08:08 PM CaptHindsight: and even less after the 2nd
08:09 PM _unreal_: true
08:09 PM _unreal_: I'm remaking one of the BEARING retainers I milled last night
08:10 PM _unreal_: its off by a freaking mm or two
08:10 PM _unreal_: in the bearing offset depth :/
08:10 PM _unreal_: amazingly I measured wrong
08:11 PM _unreal_: figueres, I cant run my vac, its full
08:11 PM _unreal_: ARG...
08:14 PM _unreal_: so before showering tonight I got my X axis lead screw work done, I ran the die down the ends to make threads for end retainer nuts. I got my drive nut/block tapped and bolted together
08:14 PM _unreal_: along with a few other processes compleeted
08:18 PM _unreal_: ?
08:19 PM Bushman: CaptHindsight: yea, the X/Y pixelcount needs to be exactly equal
08:19 PM Bushman: http://i.imgur.com/xrttRsk.png
08:19 PM _unreal_: good lord I really did put to much Lillet Blanc in this martini
08:19 PM Bushman: CaptHindsight: this was the effect with only one pixel off
08:19 PM Bushman: on unrelated note: changing tool diameter changes origin.
08:20 PM Bushman: fuck.
08:20 PM _unreal_: Bushman, What amI looking at?
08:20 PM Bushman: how am i suppose to align those two g-codes now?
08:21 PM Bushman: _unreal_: it's yoda, but wonky due to a bug
08:21 PM _unreal_: Bushman, all of that SHOULD be done in your CASM
08:21 PM _unreal_: CAM
08:21 PM _unreal_: before milling
08:21 PM _unreal_: thats YODA...? some bug...
08:21 PM Bushman: _unreal_: ehh, my CAM is image-to-gcode filter
08:22 PM _unreal_: looks like its wrapped
08:22 PM _unreal_: AHHHHHH.... ok now it makes a little more sense
08:22 PM Bushman: yea, it's slanted cause the code assumes 1 to 1 x/y aspect ratio
08:22 PM _unreal_: ya you have an additive count offset
08:22 PM _unreal_: LOL
08:22 PM _unreal_: stbu
08:35 PM CaptHindsight: moire pattern
08:35 PM CaptHindsight: it's a feature :)
08:42 PM Jymmm: ha
09:00 PM _unreal_: CaptHindsight, your a fucking fortune teller
09:00 PM _unreal_: :0
09:00 PM _unreal_: :)>><<>?
09:01 PM XXCoder: he owns a fucking fortune teller?
09:02 PM Javabean: that would be awesome, she would know when i am coming
09:06 PM _unreal_: I see this now
09:06 PM _unreal_: she? and thats a good thing?
09:07 PM XXCoder: Javabean: https://i.imgur.com/FjTjbRv.jpg
09:07 PM Javabean: i hope so, unreal... she could have some food ready for me!
09:10 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, lol
09:10 PM _unreal_: lol
09:11 PM _unreal_: right now I'm cooking plantains, in chilly sauce, with hanburg with cilantro and hamburg
09:11 PM _unreal_: hamburg not hanburg
09:12 PM _unreal_: ya and that was a dirty deed
09:12 PM _unreal_: ? wtf
09:12 PM _unreal_: dirty_d, you could not have picked a more perfect time to enter the room
09:12 PM _unreal_: wow
09:12 PM dirty_d: whoa
09:12 PM dirty_d: thats weird
09:13 PM Javabean: dirty deed??? was it done dirt cheap?
09:13 PM _unreal_: LOL
09:14 PM dirty_d: you're god damn right it was
09:18 PM _unreal_: ! just grabbed my martini, cant belive I came all the way back into the room and forget it in the kitchen
09:18 PM _unreal_: ARG.
09:18 PM dirty_d: https://i.imgur.com/3XVb225.jpg
09:19 PM dirty_d: martini, fancy night
09:19 PM XXCoder: box style nice
09:19 PM XXCoder: very strong for wood
09:20 PM Tom_L: damn, that's some serious wood....
09:20 PM XXCoder: is there "boxes" inside also?
09:20 PM dirty_d: such wood
09:20 PM _unreal_: dirty_d, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kViyHDq6daYxik7cf587PP_aZ50MCRVm
09:21 PM dirty_d: yea the table has stuff interlocked going both ways, the X column is hollow
09:21 PM XXCoder: nice
09:21 PM XXCoder: direct image https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4ODohL2RLiKizV8Ti6NtGjVpToaDS9U8egYzt84wvRQAiZAfbQ2jIpJ5ZuFiapV9KVdErJsRselOYuKh9GKD=w1920-h919
09:21 PM _unreal_: I would suggest at least one inner support in the middle of x
09:21 PM dirty_d: I think I'm definitely going to need another screw on the other side of the Y axis
09:22 PM Javabean: neet pic, unreal... but why the ladder for a cnc?
09:22 PM _unreal_: ladder?
09:23 PM _unreal_: oh in the pic, LOL you got a better place to store a 16' A frame ladder
09:23 PM _unreal_: the ceiling is 22'
09:24 PM _unreal_: sorry 21
09:24 PM Javabean: meh, too tall to bother setting up a swing
09:24 PM XXCoder: it looks like near kitchen or something
09:24 PM XXCoder: is it very large house?
09:24 PM _unreal_: very
09:24 PM _unreal_: single floor
09:24 PM XXCoder: fancy. my home is quite small. no shop :(
09:24 PM _unreal_: it was the "SHOW MODEL" in the HOA that I live in
09:25 PM * Javabean shudders.... HOA
09:25 PM _unreal_: built 40 years ago
09:25 PM * _unreal_ shudders HOA
09:25 PM XXCoder: A is authorian
09:25 PM _unreal_: A is fame
09:25 PM _unreal_: frame
09:26 PM Javabean: so, how many cnc's high will that room be?
09:29 PM Javabean: only issue i see is power... structure ought to alow you to have 4 high
09:41 PM perry_j1987: hmm so the major diameter of the threads is good
09:42 PM perry_j1987: i dont have a way to measure the root of the threads
09:43 PM perry_j1987: just grabbed m4 screw
09:43 PM perry_j1987: ya its not cutting deep enough
09:44 PM Javabean: the thread pitch and angle of threads IS right though, right?
09:45 PM perry_j1987: ya
09:45 PM perry_j1987: my tool doesnt match what fusion360 thinks it is apparently
09:47 PM Javabean: lovely, did it wear down a bit?? or were the dimensions entered wrong?
09:49 PM perry_j1987: all i got is a piece of hss that i believe i put a 55-60 degree point on
09:52 PM Javabean: ouch, here's to hoping you can figure out where the durp is
09:55 PM perry_j1987: aye i just want to make these parts and go to sleep lol
09:56 PM Javabean: ah, thats what happened... you were looking forward to finishing, you mustn't do that
09:59 PM perry_j1987: lol
09:59 PM perry_j1987: may be a coffee and up all night kind of night
10:00 PM Javabean: sleep is very important for you health, don't do that too often
10:14 PM fjungclaus1 is now known as fjungclaus
11:06 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.atomiccompiler.com/WebApplication1/Blog.jsp
11:06 PM CaptHindsight: 5 axis g code
11:13 PM _unreal_: dirty_d, I would strongly suggest epoxy coating the WOOD on that built
11:13 PM _unreal_: build
11:14 PM _unreal_: dirty_d, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1feJUHQfwfrGRO7LnBXBGSu6aNICulUX2
11:46 PM selroc: good morning guys