#linuxcnc Logs
Feb 14 2020
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:00 AM i8086 is now known as flyback
12:25 AM _unreal_: ve7it, this is very frustrating I HATE pic and always will
12:26 AM _unreal_: I'm getting endless NO compunicatinos errors with the programmer
12:31 AM _unreal_: the pickit3 software wont even load if the pickit is plugged in
01:02 AM _unreal_: ve7it, failed to program device, address: 0 expected value 40100 recived value: ffffff
01:02 AM _unreal_: no idea what that means
01:04 AM ve7it: how are you programming the chip.... on the board or in a adapter .... seems like its not pwered
01:05 AM _unreal_: I'm getting random errors as far as I can tel
01:05 AM _unreal_: mplabx ipe
01:05 AM _unreal_: is the onlything that seems to be working
01:05 AM _unreal_: ish
01:05 AM _unreal_: pickit3 software wont even load
01:05 AM _unreal_: if the pickit is plugged in
01:07 AM ve7it: did you get any adapter boards with the pickit3?
01:10 AM _unreal_: this seems interesting
01:11 AM _unreal_: youtube.com/watch?v=64wtr6JEOvk
01:11 AM ve7it: if you power up the servo board ( you will need at least an 8V supply on the +25 line ). This will give 5v to the pic, and you pickit3 should plug into the header pins in the middle of the PCB
01:11 AM _unreal_: I think its software issues and M #@$%@#$@# fucking chip has abandoned pickit
01:12 AM _unreal_: I just switched to a powered usb hub and I'm not seeing a "voltage" error any more but getting more errors
01:14 AM ve7it: interesting video... could be the firmware in the pickit3
01:14 AM ve7it: I noticed microchip has a pickit4 now
01:14 AM _unreal_: the "pickit v1 software claims there is a software update for the programmer but wont comunicate with it
01:15 AM _unreal_: mplab x ipe comunicates but if there is a firmware updated I cant find it
01:16 AM _unreal_: I think pickitplus is a total pay for :(
01:17 AM ve7it: yea... I noticed the microchip site has taken down all the support pages for the 2 and 3... the files still exist for the 2... I just updated it this afternoon... but that was for the 2 and under linux
01:18 AM _unreal_: pickit 4 is like $60 +
01:18 AM ve7it: yea.. they put them on for 1/2 price at year end... maybe black friday.. I havent paid much attention
01:19 AM ve7it: are you running windows 10?
01:19 AM _unreal_: yes
01:20 AM _unreal_: I cant get mplab software to run on linux
01:20 AM ve7it: my condolances :}
01:20 AM _unreal_: fedora
01:20 AM ve7it: I was running a very old version mplab 6 I think
01:22 AM ve7it: hmmm
01:27 AM ve7it: hey... got the bed call here... goto run..... https://www.microchip.com/mplab/mplab-xpress interesting... wonder if it can use pickit3?
02:17 AM Loetmichel: t4nk_freenode: i thought you meant the "pneumatic" hammers (copies of the Hilti TE10). The ones that go "klock Klock" instead of "SCREEEEEEEE" like the cheap combi drill/hammer drill things. my bad.
02:18 AM Loetmichel: ahh, finally got the third Ender3 3d-printer installed. now the coworker just has to assemble the fourth. getting pretty serious production capacity here ;) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17684&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
03:06 AM Deejay: moin
04:16 AM Loetmichel: OH MAN! steel splinter in a finger of the right hand this time. *cutting/pulling it out* How do i manage to do that all the time?
05:14 AM p0g0_: Loetmichel, I have seen chain mail gloves used by oyster shuckers (folks who cut open oysters for a living)- you may want to get a pair.
05:36 AM Loetmichel: p0g0_: that wouldnt help, cause i wouldnt wear them all the time
06:12 AM jthornton: morning
06:14 AM XXCoder: hey
07:41 AM gregcnc: -20°C
07:41 AM Javabean: yeah, weather is kinda cool
07:42 AM Javabean: https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/f3nugt/how_cold_is_it_in_saudi_arabia_this_cold/
08:00 AM Loetmichel: maaan, i hate win10. Extremeburner AVR isnt running any longer because "missing'libusb0.dll'"... cant they do ONE thing right? (any solutions? already tried Zadig, doesent help)
09:55 AM unterhaus: huh
10:02 AM unterhaus: hexchat logs me in here automatically unless it doesn't. Seems to be inexplicable
10:27 AM ziper: unterhaus, maybe your services aren't identifying you fast enough sometimes
12:00 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:43 PM veegee: Hey guys, what's the best way to mount a brake rotor to a 6" rotary table?
01:43 PM veegee: what's the simplest way, that is
01:44 PM veegee: I don't have a lathe yet to make a custom mount or adapter, so I need to figure out a way to mount it.
03:08 PM CaptHindsight: veegee: you'll have to post pics and some dimensions to get any meaningful help
03:08 PM gregcnc: buy a new rotor for 30$?
03:09 PM CaptHindsight: maybe he wants to drill some holes in it?
03:11 PM CaptHindsight: for venting
03:46 PM JT-Shop: hot glue
03:49 PM skunkworks: double sided tape
03:55 PM * JT-Shop has been on vine patrol doing seek and destroy all day...
03:58 PM p0g0_: JT-Shop, wisteria?
04:05 PM JT-Shop: I mostly have 3 types, the ones that attach to the side of the tree and one I call monkey grape, no clue what it really is
04:08 PM JT-Shop: not wisteria for sure
04:08 PM p0g0_: Sounds like Wisteria and Poison Ivy & "wild grape"
04:08 PM p0g0_: oh
04:08 PM p0g0_: good
04:08 PM p0g0_: that stuff is a real pain
04:09 PM p0g0_: Virgina Creeper is the other climber here.
04:11 PM JT-Shop: one is wild grape for sure, just looked at some photos
04:21 PM XXCoder: Javabean: lol funny video
04:32 PM Deejay: gn8
04:45 PM jthornton: so I emailed toolnut to inquire about my Woodpecker, they said the factory said back order till April :(
04:45 PM XXCoder: :(
04:46 PM jthornton: so I said do they have a different one he said yes then he said my original one ships Monday
04:46 PM jthornton: seems some cornfusion at the woodpecker factory...
04:47 PM XXCoder: lol
04:47 PM jthornton: my deck planter cold frame experiment seems to be working well
04:55 PM jthornton: https://gnipsel.com/images/garden/deck-planters/
04:56 PM XXCoder: ohhh thats nice
04:57 PM jthornton: yea it was 30°F in there this morning at sunrise and 13°F outside, got up to 85°F in there today
04:58 PM XXCoder: no glass, just plastic sheet?
04:59 PM XXCoder: whats you plan to grow in it?
04:59 PM jthornton: yea 8 mill plastic as a test, when I get the Woodpecker I'll make a rail and stile window for it
05:00 PM jthornton: might start some tomatoes in there dunno yet
05:10 PM andypugh: Cannabis: More profit
05:10 PM andypugh: What is the “Woodpecker”?
05:10 PM jthornton: it's actually legal in Missouri if you have a permit
05:10 PM XXCoder: umm
05:11 PM XXCoder: ;)
05:11 PM jthornton: https://www.woodpeck.com/routing/router-tables/woodpeckers-premium-router-package-prp-4.html
05:11 PM jthornton: it's a router table
05:11 PM andypugh: I was in Colorado last year. A car dealer had given up its car park to a weed supermarket.
05:12 PM XXCoder: so its like routing table
05:12 PM jthornton: it ain't that easy here lol
05:12 PM andypugh: But, given how often I smell it round here, it might as well be legal.
05:12 PM XXCoder: i see a rail set in table interesting
05:12 PM jthornton: the neat thing is how you raise an lower the router and how it does fine adjustments
05:13 PM XXCoder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5730/comments dang that looks cool! but too big for my machine lol
05:14 PM andypugh: My dad has a plastic benchtop router table. It’s actually amazingly good. 2kw motor and 1/2” collet. We have failed to kill it despite mainly working with very big lumps of oak.
05:15 PM jthornton: yea 1/2" collets and 2+ hp is nice
05:15 PM jthornton: XXCoder, make a mini one
05:15 PM andypugh: Only problem it has is that the area round the collet nut fills with sawdust. When you hear the speed drop it’s time to pause and start digging.
05:15 PM XXCoder: jt but it wont fit regular light heh
05:15 PM XXCoder: it wont scale due to thickness requirements too
05:16 PM jthornton: use a night light
05:20 PM XXCoder: LOL https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:799 cool
05:23 PM andypugh: I like that
05:25 PM XXCoder: lol https://youtu.be/1sBeiYIkn4k
05:26 PM |hartesau| is now known as hartesau
05:27 PM unterhaus: I have sometimes wanted a router table or a shaper. figure I would probably feed my hand into the blade at somepoint
05:27 PM unterhaus: I know someone that fed his hand into a shaper and then later into a tablesaw
05:28 PM unterhaus: I suggested he take up knitting for a hobby
05:28 PM SpeedEvil: If you're that incapable, you can work round it.
05:28 PM SpeedEvil: Sled, and appropriate guards.
05:28 PM SpeedEvil: Never go near the blade.
05:28 PM unterhaus: a lot of good applications of a router table can be somewhat dangerous
05:28 PM SpeedEvil: True.
05:36 PM andypugh: XXCoder: That laser bandsaw isn’t perfect, but it’s a good proof of concept.
05:36 PM andypugh: It needs a foot control for the beam, I think.
05:37 PM SpeedEvil: I have pondered an e-brake for saw/router/... if it sees hands in the danger zone
05:37 PM SpeedEvil: possibly retroreflective gloves.
05:39 PM jthornton: my SawStop will stop the blade in a tooth or two if I touch it
05:39 PM SpeedEvil: Yeah.
05:39 PM jthornton: saved my tape measure once...
05:39 PM SpeedEvil: I mean somewhat less $ per actuation.
05:40 PM jthornton: the cartridge is not bad, the expensive part depends on what blade you have in the saw
05:42 PM andypugh: I guess the economics depends on the rate of false triggers
05:43 PM andypugh: I reckon $5000 per shot would be acceptable if it actually saved a finger _every_ time.
05:43 PM jthornton: I've not heard of a false trigger, but cutting wet wood you must turn that off
05:43 PM jthornton: my buddy has tested it twice with his fingers...
05:43 PM andypugh: Maybe more. I am not sure what I would sell a finger for.
05:43 PM jthornton: just a nick each time
05:44 PM andypugh: I gess that’s the question to ask anyone that complains about the cartridge cost. “So, how much will you sell me one of your fingers for”
05:45 PM jthornton: yea, I've been cut with a table saw and it's not fun at all
05:45 PM jthornton: lucky the blade was not sticking out enough to remove anything
05:46 PM andypugh: But conversely I have never even got close to cutting myself with a table saw. Though my dad once managed to plane the heel of his hand on the jointer.
05:47 PM jthornton: I was cutting some sheets of 1/8" thick ply and it went under the fence and pulled my hand across the blade in less than a heartbeat
05:47 PM SpeedEvil: For the price of the sawstop, I could pretty much DIY a full sliding table with enough clamps and powered in/outfeed.
05:48 PM SpeedEvil: Damn near anyway. Space requirements would be more
05:48 PM andypugh: And flexibility less.
05:48 PM andypugh: A lot of table saw work involves stopping at a pencil mark.
05:49 PM SpeedEvil: perhaps, yes.
06:05 PM unterhaus: fingers might be cheaper in the UK, but in the U.S. losing a finger is pretty expensive
06:06 PM unterhaus: I imagine the bills for that would pay for a sawstop cabinet saw a couple of times over
06:06 PM unterhaus: so far, I haven't tried that logic on my wife, she probably would tell me to stop woodworking
06:07 PM andypugh: Well, we can get then sewed back on for free, but that doesn’t always work.
06:08 PM unterhaus: the guy I know that had that done says he wouldn't do it again
06:08 PM unterhaus: mostly cosmetic
06:08 PM andypugh: I hope to never do it at all.
06:09 PM unterhaus: agreed
06:09 PM jthornton: same here
06:10 PM jthornton: I didn't buy the SawStop for that feature, but rather for all the ways you could adjust the saw to be perfectly aligned
06:11 PM unterhaus: we had a sawstop contractor saw at work, I think it was just as nice as my PM66 cabinet saw
06:11 PM unterhaus: I have heard the cabinet saws are really nice
06:12 PM jthornton: yea, I really like it
06:13 PM jthornton: I built this cross cut sled and use it more than anything else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbG-n--LFgQ
06:14 PM unterhaus: I have an incra miter express. Too lazy to build
06:15 PM jthornton: that looks nice
06:16 PM andypugh: jthornton: Got bored of that video “Here is a very compicated way to avoid dividing a gap by two”
06:19 PM jthornton: lol
06:27 PM * jthornton is still struggling with how to play music to the chickens with python or pyqt...
06:27 PM andypugh: You need a bluetooth speaker clock radio multimeter.
06:27 PM andypugh: (as linked a couple of days ago)
06:29 PM jthornton: I have USB speakers for the Rpi3
06:31 PM jthornton: I tried using subprocess but it locks up the coop controls
06:32 PM andypugh: That’s “ccop” as in chicken house, not a contraction of “cooperation”?
06:33 PM andypugh: (I have thought for a long time that LinuxCNC is the only place where you might not be able to tell what sort of router someone has problems with)
06:33 PM jthornton: yea it's spelled coop here for a chicken house
06:33 PM andypugh: Here too, by competent typists
06:33 PM jthornton: lol
06:33 PM andypugh: “I have a problem with the router on my router”
07:06 PM andypugh_ is now known as andypugh
07:30 PM XXCoder: doh missed conrvo
07:30 PM XXCoder: was out talking with bro heh
07:30 PM XXCoder: jthornton: https://youtu.be/t3jrrcqkR1g pretty cool. its laser cu
09:24 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L