#linuxcnc Logs

Feb 02 2020

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:57 AM XXCoder: lasssering stuff
02:23 AM Deejay: moin
03:11 AM Tom_L: morning
03:11 AM XXCoder: yo
03:12 AM XXCoder: tom I was testing different materials with laser engraver lol
03:12 AM XXCoder: most was a failure
03:12 AM Tom_L: like what?
03:12 AM XXCoder: HDPE sheet, cardboard, can alum sheet, alum thin block, kitchen surface sample
03:13 AM Tom_L: some too reflective?
03:13 AM XXCoder: yeah alum both of em lol
03:13 AM Tom_L: dust it with powder and try again
03:13 AM XXCoder: if I didnt have goggles I;d see fanastic kight show
03:14 AM XXCoder: (I used gap to look at wall away from laser)
03:16 AM XXCoder: cardboard (not corrgated) workjs fine for engrave, dunno on cut
03:18 AM XXCoder: meh cutting it will form emers, had to stop before it turns into fire
03:18 AM XXCoder: laser isnt powerful enough t do instant vaporization
03:23 AM XXCoder: LOL
03:24 AM XXCoder: ad paper is way too easy to cut. it fell apart on engrave strengthy
03:27 AM XXCoder: man
03:27 AM XXCoder: this letters make me look like im god with cutting paper
03:27 AM XXCoder: so perfect
04:04 AM XXCoder: Tom_L: damn cloth works very well lol
04:05 AM Spatial_Suze: hi all
04:05 AM XXCoder: hey
04:05 AM Spatial_Suze: it's possible to try linux cnc to live usb?
04:07 AM XXCoder: should be
04:07 AM p0g0: USB IO is a bit slow, but otherwise, it should be OK.
04:10 AM Spatial_Suze: ok i try ty.
04:59 AM HexaCube: hey folks
05:01 AM HexaCube: soooo... I'm watching a video about linuxcnc right now, where a guy connected a 'mesa card' via ethernet to a pc running linuxcnc I assume
05:01 AM HexaCube: is there some recommendation on what sorta pc to buy if you don't have anything laying around?
05:01 AM HexaCube: like some small form factor unit that's cheap? :P
05:02 AM XXCoder: rpi4
05:02 AM XXCoder: yep we have it now
05:02 AM XXCoder: now is very quiet, but will get more chatty in hour or 2
05:03 AM HexaCube: huh, the rpi is good enough for that? I see
05:04 AM HexaCube: neat
05:04 AM XXCoder: im not too sure how developed support for it is. think theres a video
05:04 AM XXCoder: but yeah linuxcnc dont need all that much cpu power. just need good RT system
05:05 AM XXCoder: maybe in case of rpi4 you might want fastest sd possible
05:05 AM HexaCube: the video I'm watching is using a Mesa 7176E
05:06 AM HexaCube: and a Mesa 7i85 for glass rods apparently
05:07 AM XXCoder: rpi4 you definitely need MESA type
05:07 AM XXCoder: cant do parallel with no parallel interface pc ;)
05:07 AM XXCoder: use ethernet or usb (ethernet can be realtime)
05:18 AM p0g0: If I wanted to direct a milling path direction, say cutting left to right was more accurate than right to left, for example- what part of the toolchain handles that, the CAD/CAM or is that something for a GCode post-processor, or what ?
05:19 AM HexaCube: I think that's handled by cutter compensation?
05:19 AM HexaCube: G41/G42
05:20 AM p0g0: 'k thx
05:21 AM HexaCube: phew, 7176E costs 220 EUR
05:32 AM p0g0: HexaCube, I am really ignorant about this stuff, but the Syba SD-PEX10005 is listed as a PCIe parallel port ready card, per the web- if you have a PCIe class slot available.
05:59 AM jthornton: Houston we have ignition
05:59 AM XXCoder: launch?
06:00 AM jthornton: heat
06:00 AM XXCoder: HexaCube has mesa questions
06:00 AM jthornton: forgot I had the 300 gallon tank on line not the 500 gallon tank
06:00 AM XXCoder: doh so ran out eh
06:00 AM jthornton: yea, always in the middle of the night
06:01 AM jthornton: I replaced the fill valve on the 500 gallon tank after running it empty last winter
06:01 AM jthornton: you wake up and think wtf why is it cold in here
06:01 AM XXCoder: 99% chance its at night. its a fact
06:04 AM XXCoder: anyway i played with laser engraver a lot today
06:04 AM XXCoder: engraved my tape measure thing, bunch of materials
06:04 AM XXCoder: realized I have trash shorts (i forgot to throw it away but destrpued)
06:04 AM jthornton: getting to know it better?
06:05 AM XXCoder: i tried bunch of cloth cutting. interesting/
06:05 AM XXCoder: yeah
06:05 AM XXCoder: man even weak at 2w it just rips though paper
06:06 AM XXCoder: funny how its far more "productive" than 3d printer ever was
06:06 AM XXCoder: and cnc router even less
06:08 AM XXCoder: i saw video of some moron engraving his arm
06:08 AM XXCoder: really dumb
06:08 AM jthornton: dumb as tatoos
06:08 AM XXCoder: its as perment as tattoo and much higher chance of f-up
06:08 AM XXCoder: tattoos ois fine to me, but its hard to have real reasons to
06:09 AM XXCoder: tribal ones is just dumb
06:09 AM XXCoder: my bro, sis and mom has tattoos. im only one that dont
06:09 AM jthornton: I like the tatoo Radar got at Rosies Bar if you watch MASH
06:09 AM XXCoder: nah im not old enough
06:09 AM jthornton: I watch reruns
06:09 AM XXCoder: saw reruns but i was very young then, changed channels lol
06:11 AM jthornton: anyway the CO made him show his tatoo and it was a teddy bear, when questioned he admitted it was only drawn on with ink and he could wash it off then Hawkeye said oh it is permanent lol
06:11 AM XXCoder: lol doh
06:11 AM XXCoder: my step dad had phone number on shoulder. said it was worth it, was date #
06:12 AM XXCoder: it must have been great to have it more than 40 years later
06:13 AM jthornton: I still remember the phone number from when I was a kid living on Camphor street in Metairie La
06:13 AM XXCoder: i cant remember 99% of my childhood
06:13 AM p0g0: Can't you use a low wattage laser to bleach out tatoos? There's some tech for that.
06:14 AM XXCoder: theres ones tuned to certain colors now yeah
06:14 AM XXCoder: shatters specific pigiments
06:14 AM p0g0: skin grafts...
06:14 AM XXCoder: keep in mind that removal cost 10 times putting in
06:14 AM XXCoder: or more
06:14 AM p0g0: yeah, tunable lasers.
06:14 AM p0g0: SILEX...
07:04 AM Tom_L: morning... again
07:05 AM XXCoder: good morning2x
07:27 AM jdh: wow, never heard anyone else mention silex
07:29 AM XXCoder: google fail
07:29 AM XXCoder: few stuff have silex name
07:29 AM jdh: silex laer
07:29 AM jdh: laser
07:30 AM jdh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_isotopes_by_laser_excitation
07:31 AM XXCoder: security classication section is interesting
08:09 AM jthornton: every time my windblows 7 locks up it locks my open spreadsheets and it has become impossible to unlock the files
08:09 AM jthornton: there is no lockfile that I can see either
08:14 AM jthornton: must be the nas doing that as I can now open them up
08:44 AM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
09:04 AM jymmmm: jthornton Seems kinda weird that your NAS would lock it, as many people could be accessing the same file.
09:14 AM phipli: jymmmm, but most files can't handle being edited by multiple people
09:15 AM phipli: if the NAS thought it was still open, sure it would let you read it, but shouldn't let it be opened by a "second" person
09:15 AM phipli: guessing though
09:15 AM phipli: Also, I want one of these.
09:15 AM phipli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yImi4iSPweU
09:17 AM jymmmm: phipli I suppose it also depends on the NAS FW, and well as any M$ flock BS of accessing a remote file too
09:18 AM phipli: I wish there were more formats that live updated as multiple people worked on them
09:18 AM phipli: would be good for work
09:18 AM phipli: "you work on the intro and I'll work on the conclusions, meet you in the middle"
09:33 AM Javabean: i wonder if nextcloud hub's implimentation allows for something like that
10:01 AM phipli: my nextcloud is running on ARM
10:02 AM phipli: I couldn't get the document editing features working
10:02 AM phipli: otherwise it is really nice - I have it running on a small SBC, with my main NAS mapped to a folder on it
10:03 AM phipli: and my phone syncs all new photos and my contacts to it every night
10:04 AM phipli: Javabean, I forget which processor variant it is, but it runs on one of these : https://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_455822_1.jpg
10:04 AM phipli: about 2"x2"x1.5"
10:05 AM Javabean: an orangePi?
11:28 AM jthornton: phipli, yea it was an excel spreadsheet
11:34 AM jthornton: anyone know if there is a place to report the email scam can I send you a check and arrange for a shipper to pick the item up
11:39 AM jthornton: https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx well the FBI of course
12:34 PM elmo40: what will they even do about it...
12:37 PM Tom_L: add it to their case load
01:04 PM unterhaus: they do occasionally shut scammers down
01:05 PM cgi: anyone using fusion 360 here? How do I draw a circular shell in it?
01:06 PM unterhaus: I thought fusion allowed you to do a rotation. Been a while though
01:07 PM unterhaus: it was incredibly slow on my computer, relies heavily on the gpu
01:15 PM cgi: unterhaus, what do you use?
01:16 PM unterhaus: I have been using solidworks, runs a lot faster
01:16 PM unterhaus: I want to get back to fusion, but I would have to get a new graphics card
01:17 PM unterhaus: solidworks uses cpu, fusion uses gpu.
02:06 PM _unreal_: got some really good progress done on the CNC
02:07 PM _unreal_: finally have the X rail mounts mounted and aligned
02:08 PM Tom_L: cutting parts yet?
02:08 PM _unreal_: after a late lunch going to go to the hardware store and get a bunch of screws
02:08 PM _unreal_: hardly
02:08 PM _unreal_: Z isnt even started
02:08 PM Tom_L: it's good progress when you reach that point
02:08 PM _unreal_: and the motor controller is still missing parts
02:08 PM Tom_L: we're gonna call this cnc the missing part cnc
02:08 PM _unreal_: ebay messaging has been down for 4 days now
02:09 PM _unreal_: and I'm still waiting on parts the guy SAID he's going to send
02:09 PM Tom_L: that's like " check's in the mail "
02:10 PM Tom_L: don't expect any parts from china any time soon
02:10 PM Tom_L: and if you do, i'd disinfect them
02:11 PM _unreal_: sweet my order just got shipped https://www.ebay.com/itm/152879389862
02:11 PM unterhaus: most viruses only live for 30 minutes outside of a body
02:11 PM _unreal_: idler WITH teeth
02:11 PM _unreal_: unterhaus, random
02:11 PM Tom_L: so another 6 weeks
02:11 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, ya :/
02:12 PM Tom_L: sometimes i pay just a little more to have it shipped from a US shipper that has already imported them
02:12 PM unterhaus: I generally wouldn't lick any parts I got, no matter what the source
02:12 PM _unreal_: I have these stupid little 45's supports for the X rail mounts I was going to cut off the excess. but it just dawned on me I can mount my estop switches on them
02:12 PM _unreal_: That way I have a switch on each side of the gantry
02:13 PM Tom_L: unterhaus, i've had some come in with some unusual odors
02:13 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, only source I've found that has the xl idlers
02:13 PM _unreal_: toothed xl idlers
02:15 PM unterhaus: dang, need 3mm bolts
02:15 PM unterhaus: this project has been hell on taps
02:16 PM unterhaus: I think I just broke the 4th tap, on one part
02:17 PM Tom_L: you must be going about it wrong
02:18 PM Tom_L: are you using a tap guide?
02:18 PM jymmmm: Are you using a jackhammer?
02:19 PM Tom_L: not currently
02:19 PM unterhaus: I used the jackhammer to remove the remainder of the taps. This stainless is really sticky, so any mistake and broken tap
02:21 PM unterhaus: I don't do very much tapping. What kind of tap guide do you suggest?
02:22 PM Tom_L: i made some from scrap. just drill a hole the right size in a piece of stock
02:24 PM Loetmichel: *COUGH* *SPIT* MAAAAN was that fileserver here at home dusty in its corner behind the door in the workshop... but i can report: its up and running again. Strange: the power button can still shut it off, but no longer on. For that you have to short ATX_green to ground for a couple seconds. I wonder what died on THAT mainboard... but anyways, mounted a couple wires and an external button to
02:24 PM Loetmichel: the green and black so i can restart it should we have another power outage and all is well ;)
02:25 PM Tom_L: unterhaus, if you look close you can see some round stock on a tap there: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/X_Axis_endplate.jpg
02:25 PM Tom_L: just hold it flat on the workpiece as you tap
02:26 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/X_Axis_tapped.jpg
02:27 PM unterhaus: that would have saved the last one. Workpiece moved unexpectedly
02:28 PM Tom_L: that and some "tap honey" will help
02:28 PM unterhaus: I probably should just get a tap stand
02:28 PM Tom_L: i use what i got handy
02:35 PM Jymmm: What happens when a mosfet controlled motor gets mechanically jammed?
02:44 PM rmu: Jymmm: that depends ;)
02:46 PM Jymmm: rmu: Could it burn out the mosfet?
02:47 PM unterhaus: if there is no current control, yes
02:47 PM Javabean: i would think it would fry the "traces" first
02:47 PM unterhaus: I used to lock a motor intentionally to try to demagnatize the rotor, no problem with the mosfets
02:47 PM Jymmm: ok
02:48 PM unterhaus: sorry, that was igbts, although I'm not sure it matters much anymore
02:48 PM rmu: Jymmm: yes it could
02:49 PM Jymmm: k
02:49 PM rmu: Jymmm: it really depends on the controller and the setup
02:49 PM Jymmm: drone
02:49 PM rmu: a proper control with proper setup will just signal overload
02:49 PM rmu: and shut down
02:49 PM Jymmm: where one motor gets jammed
02:49 PM Jymmm: ah
02:52 PM cgi: what is a good pattern to use for a perforated cylinder i want to 3d print ?
02:58 PM Tom_L: Jymmm, the overcurrent protection kicks in?
02:59 PM Jymmm: This drone I got two of motor dont spin anymore. I swapped the motors and they spin, so it's not the motors them selves.
02:59 PM Tom_L: and why you stickin your finger in the blade in the first place?
02:59 PM Tom_L: swap out the mosfets?
02:59 PM Tom_L: any got a hole blown in the side?
03:00 PM Tom_L: that would be a good indicator
03:00 PM Jymmm: no
03:00 PM Tom_L: are they soldered in?
03:00 PM mauz555: hello I'd like to manufacture a small aluminium enclosure with CNC what an easy way to start ?
03:01 PM Tom_L: buy some aluminum?
03:01 PM Tom_L: model it up in your favorite cad cam program
03:02 PM mauz555: Tom_L: I know where to find the right aluminium alloy
03:02 PM Jymmm: IDK if I can fix it, but I want to reorder another drone, just want to make sure it's not going to happen again
03:02 PM mauz555: Tom_L: for the model I use Fusion360
03:02 PM Tom_L: 6061? 7075?
03:03 PM mauz555: Tom_L: my question was more about the machining part
03:03 PM Tom_L: depends on the part
03:03 PM mauz555: Tom_L : 7075
03:03 PM Tom_L: rough it out with as big a cutter as you can and finish it with the largest cutter that will fit the smallest radius
03:04 PM mauz555: basically I want that result: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_54o58JMN4
03:04 PM mauz555: but dont want to pay that much
03:04 PM _unreal_: unterhaus, if your breaking taps. your doing one of two most likely both things wrong
03:05 PM _unreal_: wrong root size, and to much force
03:05 PM _unreal_: unterhaus, you CAN NOT making taping faster
03:06 PM _unreal_: different metals have different rates of change they will except. and forcing it to do what you want will ALWAYS fail. its just like a cnc machine FEEDS and SPEEDS. you have to follow the charts.
03:07 PM Tom_L: mauz555, just buy one. by the time you get tooling, programming, spend your time developing and testing the tool path you could buy one
03:08 PM Tom_L: by the time you do all that, they'll have a new model out anyway
03:09 PM mauz555: Tom_L: how much ? $1k ? $10k? $100k?
03:09 PM Tom_L: you tell me. it's your project
03:12 PM Tom_L: gawd it's nice out today...
03:12 PM Tom_L: sunny and 73°F
03:29 PM Jymmm: 43F
03:39 PM JT-Shop: AC came on a bit ago, inside the house was 70
03:39 PM Tom_L: i think it's 75 in here, haven't turned the ac on yet
03:39 PM JT-Shop: snow on wed lol
03:39 PM Tom_L: no doubt
03:39 PM JT-Shop: mines automagic
03:40 PM JT-Shop: I just upped the temp so it went off
03:40 PM Tom_L: i had one of those but it died and i just grabbed one off the shelf to get it goin again
03:40 PM * JT-Shop goes back to putting painting stuff away
03:40 PM JT-Shop: I hear that, I had a crappy one and finally found a good one
03:41 PM Tom_L: some times of year the heat would come on in the night/early morning and AC in the afternoon which seems silly to me
03:42 PM JT-Shop: I have them set far enough apart that seldom happens now
03:48 PM JT-Shop: oh I found the alligator clip for my Fluke in the pile of boxes to be sorted/burned
03:56 PM Deejay: gn8
04:01 PM JT-Shop: I'd like to claim it was clever sleuthing on my part but I was moving the boxes so the wife could paint something and hang it on the PC rack
04:02 PM Tom_L: heh
04:18 PM elmo40: hi. when a gcode has 3 decimal points but the machine can only physically handle 2 (stepper motor with 16teeth has a rez of 0.01mm) won't it 'try' to get to that value? one time go next step and another time go previous step kind of thing?
04:19 PM elmo40: is there a way to edit previous gcode to round to 0.01? i've been trying to do this with Perl and Py but i get hung up on the X and Y being attached to the position. It simply skips over it since it is not a number.
04:24 PM Tom_L: some gcode editors can truncate it
04:25 PM gregcnc: are you having problems running such code?
04:35 PM elmo40: i feel as if these 'in between' values are making the steppers react different at each Z level.
04:36 PM elmo40: when doing a profile cut it seems like one level will cut, the next seems 'a step' away, and the next cuts full flute.
04:36 PM elmo40: difficult to explain. but i am certain this is the issue.
04:37 PM Tom_L: sure it's not tool flex?
04:37 PM elmo40: since the stepper can not get there, it will either do a step past or a step before and doesn't seem like it is always doing a step past for the same value.
04:38 PM elmo40: either way, is there a script or something to round the x/y values?
04:38 PM elmo40: i find many methods for data rounding but they are only with numbers. not alphanumeric
04:39 PM elmo40: maybe i can add a space after the X and Y and it will do it that way.
04:39 PM elmo40: i tried one method and it just placed the numbers by themselves in a file...
04:41 PM Tom_L: https://askubuntu.com/questions/601149/is-there-a-command-to-round-decimal-numbers-in-txt-files
04:46 PM XXCoder: awk is nice tool
04:47 PM Tom_L: worth a try
04:47 PM rmu: elmo40: +-0.01mm should not make much of a difference
04:48 PM XXCoder: I used my metric mic to check that yeah barely visible at all
04:49 PM rmu: not really visible, and a typical stepper machine isn't rigid or accurate enough to even think about 1/100mm
04:49 PM XXCoder: depends on your tols as always
04:55 PM rmu: elmo40: your problem has probably a different cause
04:55 PM gregcnc: elmo40 full steps?
04:57 PM gregcnc: have you measured this with an indicator?
04:58 PM JT-Shop: Python could filter the g Code file when you load it
04:59 PM gregcnc: in general machine controls have no issue with extra digits
05:00 PM gregcnc: you can use a formula to calculate a value with many decimals and it will go where it needs ot
05:03 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:24 PM pink_vampire: hi
05:24 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: hi
05:24 PM XXCoder: hey
05:24 PM dirty_d: I have a stepper driver alarm signal connected to this gpio. Did I do this wrong? Nothing happens when the alarm signal is activated `net axis.0.amp-fault-in <= hm2_7i96.0.gpio.000.in_not`
05:25 PM pink_vampire: I working on something that your laser machine can become very handy to make the job much faster
05:25 PM dirty_d: there's definitely an underscore in in_not, not sure why it didnt show up there
05:25 PM dirty_d: or there^...
05:26 PM XXCoder: yeah? whats it?
05:26 PM pink_vampire: did you try to cut felt or fabric with it?
05:26 PM XXCoder: yeserday I tested a lot of materials it can do some stuff but not a whole lot. 2w isnt a lot
05:26 PM XXCoder: farbic yeah my old shorts
05:27 PM Tom_L: time to upgrade it to 50W :)
05:27 PM XXCoder: made my name secncil and face lol
05:27 PM pink_vampire: how is the cut?
05:27 PM XXCoder: tom nah no room lol its why i got this machine, its tiny
05:27 PM XXCoder: its pretty clean, expecially if you run cut few times more than needed
05:27 PM Tom_L: nema17 steppers?
05:27 PM XXCoder: then you gonna seal edges somehow
05:27 PM XXCoder: or it will fall aprt and tear easily
05:28 PM XXCoder: tom yep
05:28 PM Tom_L: cool
05:28 PM XXCoder: its small enough that I can use 1.5 ft wide slab of wood as surface for it
05:29 PM XXCoder: it have marks all over it lol
05:33 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/ZJtYRCC.jpg
05:33 PM pink_vampire: this is what I'm working on
05:33 PM XXCoder: looks like felt
05:34 PM XXCoder: havent tried cutting felt by laser, but im betting just need higher speed like 1000 mm/mm with few passes
05:34 PM XXCoder: or maybe 500 mm/m
05:35 PM pink_vampire: now I want a laser cutter
05:35 PM pink_vampire: do you think I can put a laser diode on my printer?
05:43 PM dirty_d: I'm getting an error "Pin axis.0.amp-fault-in does not exist"
05:57 PM pink_vampire: the only reason I don't have those 2W+ laser diodes is related to safety
05:58 PM pink_vampire: how safe it is?
05:58 PM XXCoder: yeah not very safe heh
05:59 PM XXCoder: either have enclosure or have a room that dont have windows, or covered windows
05:59 PM XXCoder: should have a way to vent air out also
06:01 PM pink_vampire: so your house is smelling like burned stuff?
06:01 PM XXCoder: i cant smell heh
06:01 PM XXCoder: so maybe? dunno
06:01 PM pink_vampire: LOL
06:02 PM pink_vampire: I'm very sensitive
06:03 PM XXCoder: vents and hepa filters then :)
06:07 PM pink_vampire: I need to find better way
06:07 PM XXCoder: well i got a idea dunoo if its workable
06:07 PM XXCoder: build a stamper
06:08 PM XXCoder: use cnc to make holder then use steel sheets or something that produde maybe 2 mm or so out of milled holder
06:08 PM XXCoder: push it to cut pattern out of cloth sheet
06:47 PM elmo40: rmu, that isn't the point (not much of a difference). It still causes wrong tool path. think about lasers. it can instill odd jitters.
07:35 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: I'm already half way into the sewing
07:37 PM Jymmm: Hey pinky!!! ltns
07:38 PM pink_vampire: yeah..
07:40 PM net|: anyone know how to get tinycorelinux working in 8086tiny emulator ?
07:41 PM net|: i have it working in irrlicht now
07:41 PM net|: https://github.com/tecan/IrrlichtDemos/tree/master/Apps/irr8086tiny
07:43 PM net|: oops wrong channel
07:43 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/C18vwsp.png
07:44 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder Jymmm ^
07:46 PM SpeedEvil is now known as Guest21098
08:02 PM Jymmm: pink_vampire: face mask?
08:02 PM Jymmm: eye mask?
08:02 PM pink_vampire: no, and no
08:02 PM pink_vampire: ball
08:04 PM Jymmm: oh ok, like a baseball
08:05 PM pink_vampire: mini version
08:05 PM gregcnc: elmo40 it's not a control issue
08:12 PM veegee: I'm sad because my iPad pro gets little use and the pencil battery has to sit at 100% all the time :(
08:13 PM veegee: not sure how to discharge it partially and make it turn off so it doesn't deplete so I can store it in my battery storage fridge
08:13 PM gregcnc: get some kids, they;ll drain it real quick
08:13 PM veegee: Whoah I just only recently got a girlfriend and she started talking about "kids" and it freaked me out
08:13 PM veegee: ain't nobody got time for that
08:13 PM gregcnc: solution is only a few years away
08:14 PM veegee: Damn. I haven't felt fear in a really long time. I feel it again now
08:15 PM Tom_L: veegee, yeah it takes up about 18 yrs of your life
08:15 PM veegee: I'm not even 30 yet. Life /just/ started
08:16 PM veegee: all the previous years were just waiting for my bones to grow and learning to walk without falling over
08:16 PM gregcnc: people have kids at 18?
08:16 PM ziper: yes
08:16 PM veegee: That's very depressing
08:17 PM veegee: I still feel like I don't know anything. How can you be a dad at 18? You're still practically a baby
08:17 PM Tom_L: or younger if they're stupid
08:17 PM gregcnc: people don't experience real life anymore. and there is more to learn
08:18 PM ziper: life is shit anyway
08:18 PM Tom_L: it's what you make it
08:19 PM veegee: Ok turning this conversation around. I think I found a possible use for this ipad pro other than being a display for my mavic pro
08:19 PM veegee: I'll mount it on my mill and use it as a DRO
08:20 PM veegee: way better viewing angles and display than the shitty heidenhain thing it came with
08:20 PM veegee: just need to make a bluetooth I/O interface to connect to the scales
08:47 PM veegee: Yes! Fusion 360 is on ipad! Definitely found a new use for this thing beside my mill
09:26 PM Jymmm: lol
09:36 PM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
09:39 PM veegee: The manual for my bridgeport clone mill says "avoid lifting via the eye bolt" and to instead lift using a sling around the ram
09:39 PM XXCoder: pink_vampire: nice
09:40 PM XXCoder: making lots of or just a few?
09:40 PM veegee: What's wrong with lifting using the eye bolt? Are they worried that the bolt will strip the threads and slip out?
09:41 PM XXCoder: pink_vampire: can also use same thing to make scent balls
09:46 PM _unreal_: well that was a hell of a game
09:55 PM _unreal_: ve7it, how goes it
09:56 PM XXCoder: yeah kc, 50 years dang
09:56 PM XXCoder: if I had time machine I'd bet heavily on kc lol
09:56 PM XXCoder: honestly theres better ways
10:04 PM ziper: whats the point of having it then
10:05 PM XXCoder: theres so many ways to discreetly get money
10:05 PM XXCoder: super rare item sold only for a week and everyone hated it, and now wortj millions
10:05 PM XXCoder: for example
10:14 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: maybe to add some fire to them..
10:14 PM XXCoder: fire?
10:14 PM XXCoder: you mean add stuff that would release some scent if you throw em in fire?
10:19 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4cJUn9b6Zg
10:19 PM _unreal_: arg... this is going to drive me nutty. I'm trying to find XL not gt2 but https://www.robotdigg.com/product/1586/2GT-pulley-two-pulleys-in-one THAT kind of pulley
10:20 PM XXCoder: interesting
10:20 PM Tom_L: stack 2 of them on a shaft
10:20 PM _unreal_: also trying to find THAT in indeler style
10:21 PM _unreal_: I cant seem to find the damn things so I dont know what they are called
10:22 PM Tom_L: https://www.sdp-si.com/products/Timing-Belt-Pulleys/XL/index.php
10:23 PM Tom_L: no dual pulleys but maybe something you can stack
10:24 PM Tom_L: GT has a round tooth iirc XL is flatter
10:30 PM Rab: Some pitches perform better than others in terms of vibration and backlash. I believe GT3 is significantly better than XL, which is quite ancient...don't know about GT2.
10:31 PM Tom_L: i think (not positive) that GT2 & GT3 share similar geometry in that the groves are round